Gaping hole on touchless - Moto X Q&A

Does anyone know if someone is working on Motorola's giant mistake of not allowing touchless voice control to work completely if you have a screen lock?
They are encouraging users to be stupid and keep their phones without a screen lock. This should be up to the user to determine what can and can't be done with their voice.
Can you use any sort of voice unlock with the voice control?
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km8j said:
Does anyone know if someone is working on Motorola's giant mistake of not allowing touchless voice control to work completely if you have a screen lock?
They are encouraging users to be stupid and keep their phones without a screen lock. This should be up to the user to determine what can and can't be done with their voice.
Can you use any sort of voice unlock with the voice control?
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The fix that they have come up with is the moto skip :S
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Skip requires hands.....

km8j said:
Skip requires hands.....
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what about those little skip dots that come with the skip thing? i don't really understand them but i think those are supposed to do something. You're supposed to leave them in areas you commonly are, like car, and desk, bedside table sort of thing.
tried to post a link, but i'm too new. Google "intomobile hello skip moto x"
You can still make calls by voice, even without the dots, it's a setting in the controls. the setting is "make touchless calls without lock" or something like that. it's in the "help" section on motorola site. I think they took down access but should be back up any day now.

try this out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/homemade-moto-skip-buying-official-skip-t2602173
km8j said:
Does anyone know if someone is working on Motorola's giant mistake of not allowing touchless voice control to work completely if you have a screen lock?
They are encouraging users to be stupid and keep their phones without a screen lock. This should be up to the user to determine what can and can't be done with their voice.
Can you use any sort of voice unlock with the voice control?
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km8j said:
Does anyone know if someone is working on Motorola's giant mistake of not allowing touchless voice control to work completely if you have a screen lock?
They are encouraging users to be stupid and keep their phones without a screen lock. This should be up to the user to determine what can and can't be done with their voice.
Can you use any sort of voice unlock with the voice control?
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They actually allow you to say your PIN to unlock your phone.

I think the op ASSumed it didn't work with a pin

I don't think you had that option originally, and if you look at the date of the OP, you'd see it was almost a year ago.

Restola said:
I think the op ASSumed it didn't work with a pin
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linuxgator said:
I don't think you had that option originally, and if you look at the date of the OP, you'd see it was almost a year ago.
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Correct. Wasn't option originally

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2 Nexus 4 Issues That Need to Be Addressed

After using the Nexus 4 for 24 hours, I have found I have two gripes with this phone. The first is there is no audible alert if you receive a text message while on a call. In other words, if someone sends you a text message while you are on a call, you will not be made aware of it until you turn on the screen and look at it. The other gripe I have is the call waiting beep is almost completely inaudible, and the second beep sometimes doesn't even occur. In other words, if you are on a phone call, and a second call comes in, you most likely will not know about it and thus will not be know to answer the call. Today I have missed several phone calls because I was on the phone and a call waiting beep could not be heard. As an experiment, I got on a call and then called my phone from a third phone just to hear the volume of the call waiting beep...it is so low it may as well not be there. To make matters worse, after the first beep, the second beep takes so long to occur, your voicemail may likely pick it up either right before or right after the second beep occurs.
Software, not nexus 4 issue. I'm sure there's an app or will be implemented into ROM to solve your problem.
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lnfound said:
Software, not nexus 4 issue. I'm sure there's an app or will be implemented into ROM to solve your problem.
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The software comes stock on the Nexus 4 thus it is a Nexus 4 issue. Not being alerted to a second call isn't something that can be easily excused with, "there's an app or will be implemented into a ROM". A person shouldn't need to install apps or hack their phone just so they can know when a second call is coming in...after all it's a smartPHONE..
Sms issue can be solved with a 3rd party Sms app the call beep not so big of an issue to me so that's all I can say.
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What's a phone call?
Hey I'd love to agree with you but I just need clarification on one thing. What is this phone call you speak of?
Nocturnal86 said:
Sms issue can be solved with a 3rd party Sms app the call beep not so big of an issue to me so that's all I can say.
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Maybe not being alerted of calls isn't a big deal to you, but there are some of us that get important calls throughout the day, and not being alerted to them is not acceptable. Call me old-fashioned but I expect a phone to actually be able to handle phone duties, and alerting me to a second call is one of those duties. That's a pretty basic expectation, and a glaring flaw that needs to be corrected.
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What's a phone call?
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Forever alone
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Clearly you like the phone so how is complaining here gonna help, I wonder. I'm assuming there are no options available in call settings or sound that can remedy this issue. If not you have to get a third-party option whether you like it or not
I'm guessing you've set the phone to vibrate for incoming messages?
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Shouldn't it be the same pretty much like the gnex 4.2 update? Why wouldn't those things work?? What happened from the recent release to now?
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asasione said:
Clearly you like the phone so how is complaining here gonna help, I wonder. I'm assuming there are no options available in call settings or sound that can remedy this issue. If not you have to get a third-party option whether you like it or not
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It's clear I like the phone? I haven't stated how I feel about the phone besides the two issues I have with it. Also, for your information, complaining is how issues get resolved because it brings it more attention. Some of us aren't content with resting on our laurels and accepting the subpar. Furthermore, 3rd party software should not be required just to get simple basic functionality. Instead of excusing shortcomings, you should be demanding a complete device. Also, to be clear, I want to like the phone and want to see it succeed. I have a vested interest in it (which I won't get into publicly), so it actually benefits me for it to be a good phone and do well. That said, if it's falling short somewhere then it needs to be corrected and not just covered up.
kurigowa said:
I'm guessing you've set the phone to vibrate for incoming messages?
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It's set to have both an audible alert and vibrate on incoming messages. The problem is, during a phone call, neither of these things happens. There literally is no alert during a phone call other than the icon on the screen. In other words, if you don't happen to be looking at your screen, you will never know you have a text message if you are on a phone call.
At least u got the phone
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Have you looked through phone app - menu - settings?
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Wow. First world problems.
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mysterioustko said:
It's clear I like the phone? I haven't stated how I feel about the phone besides the two issues I have with it. Also, for your information, complaining is how issues get resolved because it brings it more attention. Some of us aren't content with resting on our laurels and accepting the subpar. Furthermore, 3rd party software should not be required just to get simple basic functionality. Instead of excusing shortcomings, you should be demanding a complete device. Also, to be clear, I want to like the phone and want to see it succeed. I have a vested interest in it (which I won't get into publicly), so it actually benefits me for it to be a good phone and do well. That said, if it's falling short somewhere then it needs to be corrected and not just covered up.
It's set to have both an audible alert and vibrate on incoming messages. The problem is, during a phone call, neither of these things happens. There literally is no alert during a phone call other than the icon on the screen. In other words, if you don't happen to be looking at your screen, you will never know you have a text message if you are on a phone call.
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If getting the issue fixed is why you whine, whine on the Google forums. I am sure every single other xda members here won't boycott Google tomorrow because of this post
lnfound said:
Have you looked through phone app - menu - settings?
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Yep, but it matter not. In the end, the result is the same. It appears to be a glaring oversight (the call waiting beep).
Uhm, I can has phone?
I'm sure if this is a common problem on devices, Google will probably update it and fix the problem. You can always contact Google and let them know as well.
mysterioustko said:
It's clear I like the phone? I haven't stated how I feel about the phone besides the two issues I have with it. Also, for your information, complaining is how issues get resolved because it brings it more attention. Some of us aren't content with resting on our laurels and accepting the subpar. Furthermore, 3rd party software should not be required just to get simple basic functionality. Instead of excusing shortcomings, you should be demanding a complete device. Also, to be clear, I want to like the phone and want to see it succeed. I have a vested interest in it (which I won't get into publicly), so it actually benefits me for it to be a good phone and do well. That said, if it's falling short somewhere then it needs to be corrected and not just covered up.
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It's still new. There will always be early issues. Perfection will come later
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mrhaddan said:
Uhm, I can has phone?
I'm sure if this is a common problem on devices, Google will probably update it and fix the problem. You can always contact Google and let them know as well.
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First of all, it's not a Nexus 4 issue, it's a 4.2 issue.
Second of all, I doubt Google would remove a feature they have had since...idk 2.2(the first version of Android I had). Try a restore, or mess with the settings...or maybe you're holding it wrong.

[Q] Does slide to unlock work ?

With screen lock disabled (no password/pin/pattern/face), I find that slide to unlock does not work. What I mean is that a simple touch (anywhere), unlocks the device.
Is this normal behaviour ?
Thats is wierd, you should still need to slide somewhere ... can u post a quick video ?
You sure you're not sliding somewhere? You don't have to slide from the lock, you can pull up from the middle left of the screen or wherever you please..
This does sound odd if you're just tapping . Like the v-b-n said, is there a chance you can post a video?
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I'll take a video with my old phone in a few mins. Need to charge it.
Is there any specific parts of my phone you want to see or just the unlock bit ?
efox29 said:
I'll take a video with my old phone in a few mins. Need to charge it.
Is there any specific parts of my phone you want to see or just the unlock bit ?
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I can't seem to find any option that disables slide to unlock, so at this point, no.. Just go ahead and demonstrate the touch to unlock if it unlocks, i dont know what to tell you to be honest :s looks like a defect
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It's uploading now.
I'm pretty sure I noticed this before on stock, I am running a custom kernel and ROM. ARHD 7.3 and faux123 kernel. I don't necessarily want to revert back just to confirm it.
http://youtu.be/4jB4-i4NBAU
Sorry for the random blur. Autofocus lol
I believe it has something to do with some assistive stuff. Saw an earlier thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264360
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That's what it was. I had Tasker and Pebble enabled in the accessibility section. Disabling those, gave me proper slide to unlock. But that's dumb, because now Tasker and Pebble won't work properly (especially Pebble).
but that did solve it.
Thanks samflorin!
efox29 said:
That's what it was. I had Tasker and Pebble enabled in the accessibility section. Disabling those, gave me proper slide to unlock. But that's dumb, because now Tasker and Pebble won't work properly (especially Pebble).
but that did solve it.
Thanks samflorin!
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Glad you got it all working!
I was thinking if accessibility options but taking a look at mine, I couldn't find anything that would interfere or cause similar problems.
What exactly are you using Tasker for? I have Tasker enabled, but the Tasker JB option is disabled. Tasker is working properly in my case
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WolfDale7 said:
Glad you got it all working!
I was thinking if accessibility options but taking a look at mine, I couldn't find anything that would interfere or cause similar problems.
What exactly are you using Tasker for? I have Tasker enabled, but the Tasker JB option is disabled. Tasker is working properly in my case
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I believe Tasker needs accessiblity for access app information like K9 mail. I can probably live without that, but Pebble notifications, that's hard to ignore because the watch itself is useless without it.
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I believe Tasker needs accessiblity for access app information like K9 mail. I can probably live without that, but Pebble notifications, that's hard to ignore because the watch itself is useless without it.
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Quite interesting... Odd to see Pebble breaking it..
I'd rather live with tap to unlock than without Pebble.
Maybe try widgetlocker or try go locker with some kind of sense theme.
No need for root. Won't be as seamless, might take up more battery, but you get proper functionality
A little off topic, what do you think of Pebble?
Personally, I think the functionality on paper is pretty good, but i dont see myself wearing it because of the looks (i like more circular, military style, all black, discrete stealth watches)..
And then just wait for HTC or Pebble dw
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efox29 said:
That's what it was. I had Tasker and Pebble enabled in the accessibility section. Disabling those, gave me proper slide to unlock. But that's dumb, because now Tasker and Pebble won't work properly (especially Pebble).
but that did solve it.
Thanks samflorin!
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Hello,
Someone mentioned this as being a bug. Hopefully it will be fixed in a future firmware upgrade.
Enjoy your device
WolfDale7 said:
Quite interesting... Odd to see Pebble breaking it..
I'd rather live with tap to unlock than without Pebble.
Maybe try widgetlocker or try go locker with some kind of sense theme.
No need for root. Won't be as seamless, might take up more battery, but you get proper functionality
A little off topic, what do you think of Pebble?
Personally, I think the functionality on paper is pretty good, but i dont see myself wearing it because of the looks (i like more circular, military style, all black, discrete stealth watches)..
And then just wait for HTC or Pebble dw
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The watch is good. It's my third smart watch. I have a MetaWatch digital and Analog as well. For a more elegant look, I prefer the Metawatch analog, but for a day to day @ work and stuff, the pebble is great. I hardly use my Metawatch digital. The pebble feels very...plastic. Not very good build quality if im being honest, but Metawatch...amazing build quality. Feels proper.
I found a work around for it. It requires root access, Tasker and Secure Settings.
What I did was create a Context that is activated when the display is on and then using Secure Settings, disable all Accessibility for all events. As an exit task, I re-enable all my accessibility apps.
Now when i turn on my display, I actually have to slide to unlock.

For those of you who say the 800 won't be much better...

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidNewsGoogleAndroidForums/~3/hFB1pGyte7c/
See if the link works guys. Apparently the 800 will have native support for the Always Listening feature. There will be no escaping it.
However, I'm sure not all OEMs will end up implementing that feature. What do you think?
Ah, I really want that feature. One of the things I miss from my 4s was going directly to siri from the screen off.
Not a huge deal breaker though.
neswii said:
Ah, I really want that feature. One of the things I miss from my 4s was going directly to siri from the screen off.
Not a huge deal breaker though.
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There is something about your phone always listening that may make some people hesitant.
neswii said:
Ah, I really want that feature. One of the things I miss from my 4s was going directly to siri from the screen off.
Not a huge deal breaker though.
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I don't think the 4s had always listening. I'm pretty sure u have to activate Siri
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luigi311 said:
I don't think the 4s had always listening. I'm pretty sure u have to activate Siri
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Right. It wasn't (isn't) touch less. You could, however, access Siri directly from the lock screen.
numus said:
There is something about your phone always listening that may make some people hesitant.
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Unless you really have a lot to hide, you shouldn't be too scared of this, so long as you don't frequently yell your social security number and your credit card pin.
1 word for all of you paranoid folk: custom kernels.
CNexus said:
1 word for all of you paranoid folk: custom kernels.
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That's 2.
sauprankul said:
That's 2.
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I meant to write phrase you troll
Lol I am not even close to a conspiracy theorist... I just think this would be worse than pocket dialing ... Your microphone can be turned on on any phone st any time unless you pull the battery ... That is known fact
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numus said:
Lol I am not even close to a conspiracy theorist... I just think this would be worse than pocket dialing ... Your microphone can be turned on on any phone st any time unless you pull the battery ... That is known fact
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What does that even mean? lol
You specifically have to say "OK Google now" to turn on active listening.
When do you say anything even close? "Hello mooing cow!"
sauprankul said:
What does that even mean? lol
You specifically have to say "OK Google now" to turn on active listening.
When do you say anything even close? "Hello mooing cow!"
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They said the same thing about the kinect...Mine still sometimes hears things that I guess sound close to XBOX PAUSE.
sauprankul said:
What does that even mean? lol
You specifically have to say "OK Google now" to turn on active listening.
When do you say anything even close? "Hello mooing cow!"
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am i wrong or doesn't your phone have to be listening in order for it to hear "ok google now"
turtleman2008 said:
am i wrong or doesn't your phone have to be listening in order for it to hear "ok google now"
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By active listening I mean actually awakening the phone and deciphering your speech into text and acting upon it.
*..kernel..* *..kernel..* *..kernel..*
Is it just me, or is there a lingering echo in here..?
sauprankul said:
Right. It wasn't (isn't) touch less. You could, however, access Siri directly from the lock screen.
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The same is true of Google Now, though (at least if you're not using a secure lockscreen). The interesting bit for me was really the voice interaction.
CNexus said:
*..kernel..* *..kernel..* *..kernel..*
Is it just me, or is there a lingering echo in here..?
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LA LA LA LA LA I DON'T HEAR YOU
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I was just curious. Who said the Snapdragon 800 would not be much better than the 600?
raptoro07 said:
I was just curious. Who said the Snapdragon 800 would not be much better than the 600?
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People who said only hardcore gamers would see any real world difference.
This is not just a numerical increase. It's a whole new ability that can apply to all types of users - except paranoid ones.
sauprankul said:
What does that even mean? lol
You specifically have to say "OK Google now" to turn on active listening.
When do you say anything even close? "Hello mooing cow!"
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Basically....
If your afraid that the government or whoever will use this to listen to you, this new feature doesn't change anything. Right now (on any phone), they would just as easily be able to flip on the mic and listen. It's just an extra line of code or any extra command.
Steps to listen to convo for Moto X (or phones w/ similar features)
1) install malware or use unknown backdoor
2) listen
Steps to listen to convo for other phone
1) install malware or use unknown backdoor
2) turn mic on
3) listen

[Q] Ringtone

I'm trying to set ring tone for a caller I don't want to hear from to silent. The caller is one of those sales calls. where is says set ringtone for this contact and I tick silent. When I leave contacts and come back it now says default. How can I set it to silent or how else to block that caller?
Leo
What ROM?
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Mr Number will block it and you can choose whether it answers and hangs up or sends it to vm.
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What ROM?
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I don't know what that means
joarce said:
Mr Number will block it and you can choose whether it answers and hangs up or sends it to vm.
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If that is the only way to block a caller,OK but I am kinda uneasy putting app on my phone just like I am uneasy about downloading software on my computer. If you like and it hasn't hurt your phone that sounds good, However can't understand why I can't silence ringtone for a specific caller #.
Just download Mr number and block the number from calling.
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Silent Ringtone?
ldj1002 said:
If that is the only way to block a caller,OK but I am kinda uneasy putting app on my phone just like I am uneasy about downloading software on my computer. If you like and it hasn't hurt your phone that sounds good, However can't understand why I can't silence ringtone for a specific caller #.
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I've never tried it but I imagine that if you used the voice recorder on your phone in a silent area and ran it for a couple of seconds that you could set that as the ringtone for that number. It's worth trying if you don't want to download something.
ldj1002 said:
I don't know what that means
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...you don't know what that means? W.T.F.? :head slams against table: ok, you know there's this video over in one of the noob threads here in the AHD section of xda. That video applies to you. What android version are you on?
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ldj1002 said:
If that is the only way to block a caller,OK but I am kinda uneasy putting app on my phone just like I am uneasy about downloading software on my computer. If you like and it hasn't hurt your phone that sounds good, However can't understand why I can't silence ringtone for a specific caller #.
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You do know you can call your provider and have numbers blocked right? And you're on an android development site full of roms, themes, apps, etc., and you're afraid to install an app that will hang up on an unwanted caller? Idk if you should be on this site. If installing an app is that much of an issue, they make non smartphones.
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You do know you can call your provider and have numbers blocked right? And you're on an android development site full of roms, themes, apps, etc., and you're afraid to install an app that will hang up on an unwanted caller? Idk if you should be on this site. If installing an app is that much of an issue, they make non smartphones.
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Yes, I know they make non smartphones. I just got this phone, my 1st smartphone, primarily for the camera. It has way better camera than any non smartphone I could find. My non smartphone was smart enough to block a unwanted caller. I sure thought that surely this smartphone would have been smart enough to do what my non smartphone could do.
ldj1002 said:
Yes, I know they make non smartphones. I just got this phone, my 1st smartphone, primarily for the camera. It has way better camera than any non smartphone I could find. My non smartphone was smart enough to block a unwanted caller. I sure thought that surely this smartphone would have been smart enough to do what my non smartphone could do.
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And it can. All you have to do is download an app. In fact you might even be able to do it without. If you add the contact there might be a blacklist option.
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Jesus what's with internet Nazis nowadays.
Did you try going to the dialer app, settings, blacklist?
Right there under call settings.
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deeje00 said:
Right there under call settings.
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Mine isn't like yours
Some ROMs have this option on security option at settings
ldj1002 said:
If that is the only way to block a caller,OK but I am kinda uneasy putting app on my phone just like I am uneasy about downloading software on my computer. If you like and it hasn't hurt your phone that sounds good, However can't understand why I can't silence ringtone for a specific caller #.
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An Android phone is not like a computer the apps are kept secure and away from the important system files as long as the phone is not rooted (rooted is like having admin rights in windows but with android you have to jump through hoops to activate the rights). If a app is doing something that you do not like just uninstall it and it will be like it was never there and it will have no ability to be able to destroy anything on a "stock" phone. Feel free to download and install whatever you want from the play store it will not cause damage that will cannot be easily reversed.
frog1982 said:
An Android phone is not like a computer the apps are kept secure and away from the important system files as long as the phone is not rooted (rooted is like having admin rights in windows but with android you have to jump through hoops to activate the rights). If a app is doing something that you do not like just uninstall it and it will be like it was never there and it will have no ability to be able to destroy anything on a "stock" phone. Feel free to download and install whatever you want from the play store it will not cause damage that will cannot be easily reversed.
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Thank you very much.
I installed an app and I don't understand the white list. I put some numbers to block in the black list and a if ONLY those numbers are blocked, why is there a white list. If I don't put any numbers in the white list, what happens?
Leo

LG Please know we hate this. Let us turn this annoying feature off

This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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painedglass said:
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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TWRP now too.. ROMS will be flowing soon.
Meh, I left the steaming pile of hardware failures that is a Nexus 6 for the G4. Volume rockers stopped working on the first one, new phone had screen issues, ya, the N6 isn't the greatest phone ever.
lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Angry much?
painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Because clicking a check box to unlock the bootloader is so hard. Root takes time on all modern devices.
Hahaha... Now root being available, I've installed debloated ROM and 3000mah battery serves me really well. Not to mention boost in speed as well. On stock ROM, I was missing my nexus 5 so much.
I hope you stuck around for a little longer. Feels like beasty phone just got injected with the steroid.
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Agreed....I was fed up with this phone.....root came and glory glory amen it's a better phone. Even with just a simple debloated ROM....can't wait till they really tweak the stock ROM like crazy. I probably won't go aosp....because of the camera app...whole reason I bought the phone...it deletes the side car RAW file in the default gallery aosp can't do that...neither can manual camera app or Fv5
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The thermal throttling and stuff needs some crazy tweaking...and a better kernel...my apps have to re draw too much...memory leak somewhere
Kingaries79 said:
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
ExTREmE99 said:
this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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I checked and I still get the dialog box, make sure the option is checked in the call settings. I'm not sure what you mean about the notification bar, but I can drag down and click on the call, which brings me back to the call.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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Thanks for this
Seems like a really silly reason to get rid of an otherwise awesome phone...
What's funny is that the current root methods as dangerous as they are. Are no more dangerous then when I had my Evo4g, and that team didn't have something like "OEM Unlock" to make it easier. No risk, no reward.
Not to mention that you can drag that icon anywhere on the screen so i dont see how it can be so intrucive during other app usage. Also why dont you just talk on the phone, your on a call, pay attention and stop playing with other apps, real easy
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Apex said:
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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your point is?
Would you be so kind as to elaborate on
XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts
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