Nexus 5 - Whos going to "upgrade" - Nexus 5 General

Just wondering who here who has the Nexus 4 is planning to get the impending Nexus 5 when it comes out in a 'few' weeks?
NB lets just all assume that its based on the LG G2 with 4G LTE, Snapdragon 800, 2 GB RAM, 5.2 inch display etc etc and the N4 will get 4.4 on release.

I will most likely. The only thing I really hate (amongst other things) on my nexus 4 and nexus 7 is that the aspect ratio is no longer 16:9 like it was with the galaxy nexus. It really kills the video viewing experience.
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I will upgrade wen it launches
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Almost all Nexus addicts!

I'm all ready to put my order in before it goes outta stock on Google Play
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I'm on the fence. Just jumped on the Nexus bandwagon a week ago just using the N4 as a stop gap until I got the phone I wanted (I have issues) even if it would be a month. But my eyes have been opened to the fact that my life is improved by a smartphone and drastically improved by a very good one.
So I'm in love with my Nexus 4 and we're planning on having a summer wedding.
But seriously, I think I'll be upgrading when the price drops in time for the next Nexus, but just not so I can be on the bleeding edge.

My Nexus 4 is already fast, has great battery life, LTE, takes decent pics, etc etc. Unless they add some really useful feature like expandable storage/removable battery or something along those lines (and I doubt they will add those) I won't be upgrading for at least a little while. Time will tell.
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It's my plan...but I'm waiting for more compelling info/specs...the N4 is damn nice, so I'd need a few extra reasons to blow the wad.

I want to see the specs of the N5 because I bought my N4 4 months ago, but depending on my finances *crosses fingers for the sheriff it job*, than I will definitely upgrade and give my n4 to my daughter. I have the old N7 *2012* and love it as well as I love my n4.. I voted for keeping my n4 but I don't know just yet..
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Why not? If I sell my N4 and the next Nexus 4/5 is going to debut around the same price as its predecessor, it'd only be around an extra $100 or so.

Cannot wait for the Nexus 5!! Will definitely be upgrading

I'm going to upgrade. Main reason is because I like to keep up with the PA devs and from what I hear they're all moving on and will be maintaining one singular device .

I think I'll keep the N4 for awhile. I got both the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus right away, so now I'm going to stick with the Nexus 4. Maybe I'll think about getting it if they release it in white at a later date.
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Would keep it, n4 would be getting 4.4, and I just use n4 to flash the latest as it is my flashing device. I use HTC one for taking pictures, listening to songs, watching videis etc. Love them both, keep switching them bi weekly.
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I'm planning to. I love my N4 but I'm really underwhelmed with the camera. I also would like legitimate LTE without the fuss of mods.
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Definitely looking to get either the nexus 5 or the note 3. Not quite sure which one right now but the nexus price tag will probably sway me.

nyyankees1237 said:
My Nexus 4 is already fast, has great battery life, LTE, takes decent pics, etc etc. Unless they add some really useful feature like expandable storage/removable battery or something along those lines (and I doubt they will add those) I won't be upgrading for at least a little while. Time will tell.
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What's the secret in getting a clean/crisp picture indoor? Haven't gotten one yet. Only decent picture I've gotten so far were outdoors when the sun is beaming.
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We still don't have any pricing/specs confirmation to be able to answer OP's question.
If it's going to have a 500/600$ price tag, a lot of those who "plan to buy it" will stick to their n4.
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Yep first day it is on sale I am buying one!

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What's the secret in getting a clean/crisp picture indoor? Haven't gotten one yet. Only decent picture I've gotten so far were outdoors when the sun is beaming.
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I've taken literally hundreds of photos with my N4. I've tried a few camera apps from the Play Store, the CM10.1-10.2 cameras, as well as Focal. I honestly don't believe you can get decent picture indoors without HDR, adequate lighting, and an incredibly steady hand.
I was recently visiting my sister who has a S4 and we were both taking pictures of my niece. Same room, same lighting and her photos were coming out exponentially better than mine. If the Nexus 5 has a camera on par with the S4/One/iPhone 5 I'll be happy. If it can challenge the 5S, even better (but I doubt it).

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[DISCUSSION] How long do you intend to use N4?

I used to pay $60 to Sprint and now pay $30 for Tmo prepaid plan. So I'm saving $30 a month, which got me thinking I can now afford a new Nexus phone ($300) every year.
Curious to hear what other N4 owners think about the life expectancy of their N4s. Do you buy every new Nexus phones?
I will use it until it dies or I manage to break it. Not interested in LTE as I am more than satisfied with hspa+ speeds for my needs and I will be transitioning to t-mobile's 30 dollar plan in a couple of months when my AT&T contract ends.
As long as Google will support it. The reason why I got my nexus phone is because of the android update and community support. The price is just a bonus
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Probably until some time in the first or second quarter of 2014, since the Nexus 4 will have long term support as far as I can see. Just hoping we won't see a launch like the N4 with the next Nexus phone.
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Probably until some time in the first or second quarter of 2014, since the Nexus 4 will have long term support as far as I can see. Just hoping we won't see a launch like the N4 with the next Nexus phone.
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Same here, if I don't break it earlier it will be 2014.
Till September 2013 at the minimum for me. Then I'll see what the state of the market is and how the new Google X phone is. Hopefully be able to keep it longer :good:
Until I'm tired of flashing roms on it. Which means it peaked out for me and its time for the next NexusX.
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After that I'll give it to one of my kids
Hopefully till 2015-2016. I've used the G1 in conjunction with other phones since 2009, so I feel I could use this thing for many years.
Until Sammy releases s4 lol
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Probably until the next Nexus comes out for me.
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Until I buy my iPhone back from my mom
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As long as Google will support it. The reason why I got my nexus phone is because of the android update and community support. The price is just a bonus
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This.
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This.
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Same. Most apps don't even utilize dual core, let alone 4 cores. Upgrading wouldn't improve real world usage...
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Would never buy a new phone just for the sake of having the latest thing.
I won't get a new phone til this one breaks.
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I would like to think that I'll use this phone for years to come, bit I'll probably buy the new nexus and sell this to recoup some of the cost.
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I will definitely keep the phone until it breaks just like how I'm gonna keep my galaxy nexus until it breaks. I will just let others borrow it or give it to my little brother so that they can enjoy pure Android. I will definitely buy the next nexus at launch though because I'm sure the next one will be even better!
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how do i intend to use my N4?
i would say till the next N5 and keylimepie is released probably after this years google i/o. maybe the next nexus will be googles own monster out of the motorola stables.
I'll get my next phone in 2 years when my contract runs out. November 2014 to be exact.
There is no need for a new phone every few months.
Jelly Bean barely pushes two cores so there's no reason to upgrade. I don't know it you guys have noticed yet but Google's is still not as optimized as Apple's. The hardware-to-software performance optimizations just aren't here yet.
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Help me decide my next Android purchase

Hi guys. I have a Nexus S and I already posted this in the NS and N4 forums.
Now... I've been wanting a Nexus 7 ever since it was announced, but only now that I can afford one.
But now I see I've got a chance to buy a 16gb Nexus 4.
I was planning on continuing to use my Nexus S as it totally rocks running CM10.1 and using the Nexus 7 for browsing the web around the house and playing games.
If I would buy the Nexus 4 I would obviously not afford the Nexus 7 for a while. But the Nexus 4 is such a sexy piece of hardware and it has a much better camera than the Nexus S and I've got a baby on the way and I would love to be able to take good pictures and HD videos of my little ones.
Help me decide!
Nexus 7 + Nexus S
Or
Nexus 4 only
I´ll tell you one thing that might sway your opinion a bit...
I am in Iceland... A 16gb Nexus 4 is 99.900 ISK = 775 USD. A 32gb Nexus 7 is 59.900 ISK = 465 USD.
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Well, speaking as a newer parent (22 month old daughter) in the long run you'll value your pictures far more than whatever hardware you get today. So if the phone will be your primary camera, get one with a good camera...and fast. My Evo 3D was so slow from button press to photo actually taken, I kept missing great shots...but I digress.
Those prices really suck though...makes me think there could be money being a technology mule. LOL
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Nexus 7 + Nexus S.
Then wait for the next nexus phone or the 'rumoured' X-Phone by Motorola.
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Nexus 4. Quality pictures of your baby will be more valuable. Later on you can get the new nexus 7 inch device.
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Sounds like a tough pickle...if it wasn't for the pictures I would say go nexus s and nexus 7 that is about to be my combo when my nexus 7 comes in. I went with that option simply because I was tired of waiting to get a nexus 4 that and I am temporarily computerless.
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Well if you get them shipped from america and paid american prices you could get both for the price you are paying for the N4.
There are companies you can use to buy them and ship them to you.
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I recommend you the 7 & nS combo.
The 7 is a dream.
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I would say you should get the Nexus 7 and keep the Nexus S. That is what I did, and I love it.
I would take the Nexus 7 cause i don't care about camera and the nexus s can do almost all things the nexus 4 can.It's just slower.
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I'm actually swaying toward the NS+N7 combo.
I'm seeing a lot of threads about issues with the N4. I'm not the type who has to have the newest gadgets so I think I might just wait until most of the issues with it have been resolved and then it might have reduced in price a bit here in Iceland.
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I have both the Nexus 7 and Nexus 4.
You should definitely get the n4. Why downgrade to a 2 year phone? I bought the n7 first then a month later i got the n4. It's been great so far. My only wish is that my n4 would be more battery efficient like my n7. I love my n7 because of the size, gaming performance is amazing, and did i mention battery life is superb?
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I have both the Nexus 7 and Nexus 4.
You should definitely get the n4. Why downgrade to a 2 year phone? I bought the n7 first then a month later i got the n4. It's been great so far. My only wish is that my n4 would be more battery efficient like my n7. I love my n7 because of the size, gaming performance is amazing, and did i mention battery life is superb?
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He already has the Nexus S. I think he should import for sure though... But good luck finding a Nexus 4 right now.
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He already has the Nexus S. I think he should import for sure though... But good luck finding a Nexus 4 right now.
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Yea the nexus 4 has been out of stock for a while now.
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My Nexus S can do pretty much anything the Nexus 4 can... Although a lot slower I am rooted, running CM10.1
I think a Nexus 7 will quench my thirst for a quicker device which can browse the web and play games around the house.
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My Nexus S can do pretty much anything the Nexus 4 can... Although a lot slower I am rooted, running CM10.1
I think a Nexus 7 will quench my thirst for a quicker device which can browse the web and play games around the house.
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I have lived the nexus 7 since launch. if you need a phone as your main camera thenget a Samsung. I bought a nexus 4 sixteengig. sold out right away and bought notetwo. battery life wasn't that Good andno ability to swap batteries. the 3100 mah battery on this bad boy means you will never . miss a photo or video opportunity due to dead battery. internal plus a 64gig external means recording lots of hd video. I would hit eBay.
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I was also considering a new phone, but got the 7 instead, and I'm so glad I did. Love it. Quite happy still using my galaxy s(1) for a while longer. The nexus 7 is something different than just another phone, when you already got a phone that you're still happy with.
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So the general consensus is "screw the kid and your memories, get a tablet instead?" Nice... :what:
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Get the N7. The Nexus 4 to me, just isn't worth it. Too many things led me to not buying one, and I instead stuck with my Gnex. 90% of users don't even use that Snapdragon CPU. The camera isn't that great. Front and back both glass which is a big no no for me.
Trust me, the N7 is well worth it.
It seems to me that with that difference in price, you could buy the N7 and then get a decent little point and shoot (or maybe even a super zoom) camera. Keep your S for a while and save, then buy the N4 if it's still what you want.
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So the general consensus is "screw the kid and your memories, get a tablet instead?" Nice... :what:
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Hah! I've been using the Nexus S as my main camera for over a year now and I've been fine with it. Not great photos, but I can live with it.
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Did you sell your Nexus 4? Are you going to?

Sold it/Traded it and happy
Sold it/Traded it and regret it
Going to sell it
Going to keep it
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4. Going to keep it for a year.
The price is pretty good so I could afford to upgrade yearly and it would still be the same price as other devices...only thing that kills is the ****en wait! And order process!
It's definitely a keeper for now!
4.
Probably.
Within the first day or so I seriously considered selling and buying a second hand GS3 but I've fallen in love with this phone! Love it. If i keep it for more than a month or two that'll be a good innings
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4. Love it.
6.
Bought it, love it.. waiting for the wireless charging dock
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4. Phone does everything I want it to do and it does it fast. No major complaints so far. Jeff.
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5.
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4, I love the phone and I sold my Note II for it. I'll probably keep it for the year unless the S4 or HTC M7 really catches my eye.
As soon as I get my Experia Z, I will keep it for what it was bought to be, a development phone I can play with.
4. Think I'll keep this thing till there are actual octacores otherwise there aren't any reasons to upgrade. So 3-4 years I'll keep it.
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I still go back and forth between my Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus 4. I use the Galaxy Nexus when I'm snowboarding and for bar nights when I know things might get a little weird.
While I do still love the Galaxy Nexus, every time I pop the SIM card back into the Nexus 4 and turn it on I am instantly reminded of how much more solid the build quality and performance are on the Nexus 4. It really is an extremely noticeable difference.
For that reason I'll definitely be holding onto this phone for at least a year. At which point I'll probably get whatever the next Nexus is and use the Nexus 4 as the backup phone.
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4. Think I'll keep this thing till there are actual octacores otherwise there aren't any reasons to upgrade. So 3-4 years I'll keep it.
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The s4 that comes out in april will be octacore
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4. Really like it
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The s4 that comes out in april will be octacore
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he said "actual octacore" as in 8 cores fire all at once. Samsung's new chip is 8 cores but it operates as a quad core. Only 4 cores are ever used at any point in time.
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he said "actual octacore" as in 8 cores fire all at once. Samsung's new chip is 8 cores but it operates as a quad core. Only 4 cores are ever used at any point in time.
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If thats true thanks then didnt know it.
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Will keep unless the m7 is packing real heat. Or just wait for the Motorola X from Google
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The phone is perfect. I'm keeping it and I'm madly in love. My girlfriend is jealous.
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Had 8 sold 6 for 550 and above kept 2 for me and my gf there is no other phone for me since I moved to T-Mobile. If its not stock android I don't touch it. Mercury slim case and all my fears if it breaking are gone. Screen protection on both sides.
Still miss amoled
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Waiting for the 32GB model; if not the price isn't going to go up anyway.

Are you still planning to get your nexus 4?!And what you like the most?

Hey so I am getting the nexus 4 next week.....so I wanted to know if the nexus 4 is still hot stuff!so how many of you are actually planning to but it now period?and what attracts you toward the n4?
My likes:nexus device direct updates,android 4.2,glass back,processor,ram,screen and onscreen nav bar
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The latest nexus is always a good choice because you get support from Google for a good while and they're easy to resell.
I've had mine for a few months now and when you compare the cost to hardware/software combo of the N4 to any other phone, the N4 wins hands down.
Sure if your budget was unlimited I'd probably go INA different direction (HTC One).
The good thing about the Nexus line is that they hold their value. If you chose to buy a used one now, you can probably sell it when the N5 comes out and not take a significant lose.
My only gripe with the N4 is the camera. My wife's S3 takes better pictures, otherwise its an awesome phone. What device will you be coming from?
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I go through Android phones like you wouldn't believe, I've had over 10 in the past 3 years. The Nexus 4 is the best I've ever used and the phone I've stuck with longest. I got one at release and sold it a couple of months ago to try an Xperia Z, sold the XZ after a few weeks and went back to the N4, it's that good.
Ive also had way to many Android handset's over the past 2 years, and even an Iphone 5.
I also had an N4 on release day too and sold that for the iphone.
Sold the iphone to go back to the Nexus 4.:good:
Its by far the best and purest Android phone I have ever used.
I love it so much, I now have a Nexus S as my work phone and a Nexus 10 tablet.
chill................
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I've had mine for a few months now and when you compare the cost to hardware/software combo of the N4 to any other phone, the N4 wins hands down.
Sure if your budget was unlimited I'd probably go INA different direction (HTC One).
The good thing about the Nexus line is that they hold their value. If you chose to buy a used one now, you can probably sell it when the N5 comes out and not take a significant lose.
My only gripe with the N4 is the camera. My wife's S3 takes better pictures, otherwise its an awesome phone. What device will you be coming from?
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I too wud have opted for HTC one if my budget was infinite.....I have a desire c and s2 and a nexus 7
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I go through Android phones like you wouldn't believe, I've had over 10 in the past 3 years. The Nexus 4 is the best I've ever used and the phone I've stuck with longest. I got one at release and sold it a couple of months ago to try an Xperia Z, sold the XZ after a few weeks and went back to the N4, it's that good.
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Everybody here sold a n4 once and got another one again it seems lol....just waiting for the next week yum.....
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Everybody here sold a n4 once and got another one again it seems lol....just waiting for the next week yum.....
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You'll never regret it... :good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F3KDN32JMU
ordered mine too just waiting for monday
Yup just received my white nexus 4 yesterday. :thumbup:
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Love my Nexus but I will be getting the Moto X mainly because of LTE. I will keep my N4 as my secondary device because it is still a pretty awesome stock device that will keep getting updated.
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Yup just received my white nexus 4 yesterday. :thumbup:
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I smell limited edition! :sniff: :sniff:
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Love my Nexus but I will be getting the Moto X mainly because of LTE. I will keep my N4 as my secondary device because it is still a pretty awesome stock device that will keep getting updated.
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But specs r not that good
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I smell limited edition! :sniff: :sniff:
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I bought it on Monday and then the next day it was sold out lol pretty awesome
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Is it the updated version with knubs and slightly diff. Camera lens?
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If my budget was higher I would have gone with the HTC one
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The One is a very nice device and has a great dev community, but the camera sucks on non-Sense roms. That alone would put me off.
İ have been using nexus 4 for 2 months. It is the best Android experience i have ever seen...
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Have had my nexus 4 since March. Definitely never going to go back to HTC and their complete lack of support
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But specs r not that good
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LTE, better camera, better screen, and better battery life than the Nexus 4. How are the specs not that good? It appears to be perfect for me. I don't need top of the line specs.

Anyone thinking about switching to the Nexus 5?

I was offered a trade for a 32gb Nexus 5 for my Note 3. I was wondering if anyone is also considering this. I am stuck between the two. The only thing thats keeping me from doing the trade is that the battery is awful on the Nexus 5. Just wanted some opinions on this. Thanks
Nope. U getting some extra cash (I mean 399 vs 650) cause straight trade doesn't make sense, might as well sell the note and buy a new nexus
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Yea..uh..Nexus 5 is a cheaper phone. No way
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Definitely not worth the trade... If you wanted to you can just buy one used in a month for probably less than 300 and have both phones
agree with everyone here. just read all the reviews on both everywhere if you're still unsure. note 3 is still the best phone on the market. i was in your shoes too deliberating between the two and picked the note 3; very glad i did.
I'm sold on the Nexus 5 after I persuaded my coworker to get one, but I wouldn't even consider trading my note 3 for it.
The truth is I'm having some awful luck with my note. I'm on my 2cd device and I can't seem to stay connected to a wifi network. Plus the home button on both went from perfectly pushable to a sunk in button I have to mash with my fingernail. Sammy definitely didn't hit a home run as far as build quality imho.
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I bought one to try and I love google phones but I'm way to happy with my note 3 it sold same day it got here
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The Nexus 5 looks like a fine phone for the price. But my Note 3 has worked flawlessly, and I'm happy to pay more for the bigger, higher-res phone.
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I'm sold on the Nexus 5 after I persuaded my coworker to get one, but I wouldn't even consider trading my note 3 for it.
The truth is I'm having some awful luck with my note. I'm on my 2cd device and I can't seem to stay connected to a wifi network. Plus the home button on both went from perfectly pushable to a sunk in button I have to mash with my fingernail. Sammy definitely didn't hit a home run as far as build quality imho.
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Almost everyone is having that wifi problem.
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Ditto, major wifi issues here and I'm also on my second device
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That's weird, I've had zero wifi issues. I'm using the 5ghz channel of my buffalo ac router. I also tested the 2.4ghz and no issues.
This thread is all kinds of wrong. First the Note 3 is worth a considerable amount more than a Nexus 5. Second, this phone beats it in some important categories including screen, battery life and features.
And last but not least, stock Android blows. Especially the latest version with those big and ugly icons. Stock Android is super boring to me and too light on features.
Just my opinion but don't do it.
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Even with the bloat I think the Note 3 is far superior to any of Nexus devices. I even think the S4 is as well.
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Battery life on the Nexus 5 compared to the Note 3, is night and day. The N5 can't even last a day, not even close.
And I still love the deep Plasma blacks, and vibrant colors of AMOLED screens, I've seen the N5 in store, and it looks washed out in comparison.
Plus more RAM on the Note 3.
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Making a phone with that small of a battery is like putting a 3 gallon gas tank on a car...almost not usable. 3,500-4,000 mah should be the standard on phones these days. You would be very disappointed with the trade.
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Erica Griffin from YouTube did a mini review of the Nexus 5 and she was only about 3:30 uptime, 2:20 screen time and she was at 26% battery. It's a joke and even she was saying the same pretty much.
If you are a moderate to heavy user in any way, why would you even consider the Nexus 5?
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I just returned my nexus 5 today. It's hard to use anything with a non amoled screen after you have used a phone with an amoled screen.
The nexus 5 camera was also horrible.
Sad part is, I bought the nexus 5 and gave my wife my note 3 and now she won't give it back, so it's back to the sgs4 for me
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I'm sorry everyone but this thread has run its course. This discussion should never have been in Q&A and should have been in this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46091359
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