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i just picked up a palm pre the 1st day it came out.witch was the 6th of this month. this is only my opinion oky guys.
Cons :
- no 3rd party apps (yet)
- the alarm sucks but i can say its a lot better then stock alarm for ppc
- the keypad is not as good looking and feeling as the htc ppc(6800-pro)
- no micro sd slot
- cant record videos only takes PIC
- no onscreen keyboard
-- no reset button.(so if you freeze the phone you have to take off the cover and the battery to reset it.)
-- cant do one hand slide to get the keyboard out and need to also touch the screen and help it move up to get the keyboard out.
-- battery life sucks with brightness all the way up and lots of usage it last me 1 to 2 hours only.
-- you cant save a file from the net.(i made a ring tone online and send it to my phone it it wont d.l. the ringtone)
-- you can make ring tones on line but only transfer it from your comp to the phone
-- only 3 slides to hold your apps and other icons.( it just get longer down the more you add )
-- copy and past is harder to do. to many steps
-- typing is a bit hard bc its not to conformable to hold and type.
-- takes a long time to charge to full if empty about 1 hour and 30 mins
-- cant change txt tone or any thing ( only ring tones and to contact ring tones )
-- carrying case that come with the PHONE sucks.and if you buy one it will run you around 30 to 60 bucks. but i use my HTC 6900 case for it fit perfect.
-- the phone get hot when charging or using the phone
-- no led lights (can be good or bad if u like the led lights to show if bt is on and the flash like on some htc phone)
-- -- for more info on the phone go to you tube and type in palm pre.( there is LOTS of video of the phone and comparing )
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Pros :
- faster then ppc(htc 6800-pro-6900)
- i can have like 5 to 8 program running and wont be as lagy as the ppc(u can have up to like 3 programs running on some ppc and it be super lagy and have to close it out)to make it run faster
- i like the look of it better look more high tech
- the graphic is great.bright colors and the image seem to look like if u was looking at it on a lap top or desk top
- 8 gb of rom (7GB user available)
- Headphone jack is the 3.5mm size
- love the Touchstone Charging Dock(wireless charger for your phone)
-- you can reset the phone (not freeze) by going to the home screen and go to the palm icon and reset your phone from there(they give you 3 options to choose hard reset, semi hard reset, and reset.)
-- camera works great a lot better then ppc 6800 - pro must of the ppc phone.
-- google maps and sprint nav works and looks a lot better then htc and other ppc phones
-- you can save up to lots of book marks on your phone right now i have 18 book mark with pictures to show what they are.(internet)
-- speaker and call volume is super loud
-- blue tooth connects fast and well. quality is oky bc i have a cheap one only for 20 bucks but i can say it connects and detect it fast.
-- the touchstone wireless charger is amazing no more plugging up the phone unless you are connecting it to your desktop or laptop.
-- it have a auto sensor (kind of like the G Sensor for htc pro) where if you are on the phone it auto turn off the screen and when u move it away from your ear it comes back on and when u put it back it turns off its amazing.
-- they added some cool apps
HTML:
http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/pre-mobile-applications.html
-- emailing is THE BEST for this PHONE. nothing out there can win when it comes to emailing (yahoo works best) bc you cant get it the instant the sender send it. the others like gmail or hotmail you can set up time for it to check.
-- there is a switch for the phone to put the phone on vibrate or turn the phone off.(on tope of the phone)
-- for more info on the phone go to you tube and type in palm pre.( there is LOTS of video of the phone and comparing )
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that is it guys i think that that is enough info n must of the stuff that we need to know about the phone. pm me if you guys want more info on have question .
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Thanks!
Can you post some pics or videos?
Cheers,
Yeah, I played around with it and liked it for a couple reasons and didn't for a couple as well.
The keyboard is not as good as the Pro. And the 8GB makes no sense to me. Every phone should have a Micro SD slot!
I did really like the web browsing. Similar to the iPhone in the sense that it works like going to a real web page and you can easily make it bigger with the 2 finger trick like the iPhone. I will wait and see what others say for a few months before deciding. My Pro lags a bit too much and causes a problem with my yahoo email. Plus it's very bulky unlike the Pre which is very slim and nice.
I'd certainly be willing to give Palm Pre a try later, when there're enough applications, when there is a GSM version (rather than CDMA) available. I hope the second generation has bigger screen and storage. Also hope they release a version without keyboard 'cos I do'nt like physical keyboard (too slow and too limiting and forcing you to only use it in portrait mode. I want the ability to use lots of versions and different layout depending on needs, such as for foreign language input/handwriting) I think it gives iPhone a good run for it's money from the look of it. So, will be keeping an eye on this baby. Like your comment on the speed depsite multitasking so many applications. Great feedback.
Think you meant 8gb of ROM
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Think you meant 8gb of ROM
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yes thank you ...... !!!!!
eaglesteve said:
I'd certainly be willing to give Palm Pre a try later, when there're enough applications, when there is a GSM version (rather than CDMA) available. I hope the second generation has bigger screen and storage. Also hope they release a version without keyboard 'cos I do'nt like physical keyboard (too slow and too limiting and forcing you to only use it in portrait mode. I want the ability to use lots of versions and different layout depending on needs, such as for foreign language input/handwriting) I think it gives iPhone a good run for it's money from the look of it. So, will be keeping an eye on this baby. Like your comment on the speed depsite multitasking so many applications. Great feedback.
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thank you im trying to tell you guys on how i see it.coming from a HTC lover.
but i can say that i do like the pre also. and i think i will keep the pre untill HTC come up with a GREATER PHONE with multitasking.
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Yeah, I played around with it and liked it for a couple reasons and didn't for a couple as well.
The keyboard is not as good as the Pro. And the 8GB makes no sense to me. Every phone should have a Micro SD slot!
I did really like the web browsing. Similar to the iPhone in the sense that it works like going to a real web page and you can easily make it bigger with the 2 finger trick like the iPhone. I will wait and see what others say for a few months before deciding. My Pro lags a bit too much and causes a problem with my yahoo email. Plus it's very bulky unlike the Pre which is very slim and nice.
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yes the pre should have came with a micro sd slot.that is one of the biggest mistake that they did. and with yahoo email you will LOVE IT bc i have 4 yahoo email account one for personal use other for registering and so on so on.
and when i get a new email it SHOW up on my phone the instent i receive it from the sender its GREAT for emailing GREAT...
To reset the phone without removing the back and the battery do the following.
Hold down the power button and toggle the ringer switch 4 times.
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To reset the phone without removing the back and the battery do the following.
Hold down the power button and toggle the ringer switch 4 times.
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i try it but it didnt work just say turn off / airplane mode ??
Good feedback.
I just bought one on Friday.
The battery thing is a major problem IMO, I charged it all night untill noon the next day, by six the phone was almost dead, BOGUS. Palm is supposed to have a replacement battery coming out very soon. Gonna argue I want one for free.
LET ME PUT MY OWN TEXT TONES!!!
DEFINITELY need an on-screen keyboard.
IMO the speaker could be twice as loud.
Yeah the stinkin thing gets HOT.
Buy the wireless charging doc, using the plug is a PITA.
Web pages load nice and smooth for me, better than the Iphone IMO. The Iphone was always freezing up on me, even with general apps. The Pre is nice and light, although I'm coming from a brick they call an HTC Tilt so anything would probably be lighter. Very bright, clear screen, this I like. I don't need an SD slot, why would I ever fill up 7 gigs on a phone?
Overall I'm content so far.
BEST PART so far, I got drunk the night I bought it and was callin it the Palm Tree.
i like how the pre looks but i love WM
Video of Pre
A video here of how its working on GSM in Vietnam!
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...ht-playing-with-gsm-sim-in-vietnam/#continued
I've got a Sony Smartwatch (the original) and am thinking about replacing with a Gear. I have 2 reasons; My Sony watch died a week ago, and the Gear is a new toy
Questions that I would like answered about the Gear that I do (or used to do, anyway) with the Sony starting with the things I *need* it to do:
1) Battery Life. I'm used to charging it every night, so as long as I can go 1 solid day, I'm good. However, Sony has this ridiculous proprietary cable, and I don't remember seeing in video what the Gear uses...?
2) Vibration. I haven't seen it in video, but heard it mentioned a bit. Basically the MAIN thing I need the watch to do is vibrate when I get a call/sms/email. Ideally, this could do different vibrations (1 vibration for mail, 3 for sms, continuous for phone calls). I'm in noisy areas constantly and I don't want to miss calls.
3) Speaker. Does it make noise when you get a sms/call/emal & can this be turned *off* ? I don't really need an audio alert on my watch.
4) Summary of messages. I've seen mixed results by reading reviews. I'd like to see all of the SMS, and the sender/first line or so from email. (without needing to go to the phone)
5) Caller ID. For phone calls, with the option to pick up the phone, and possibly activate the speaker phone on the phone.
6) Tell the time. (I know it can, but through I'd throw it on my need to do list)
Just Gravy Stuff for me, anything below would be nice but isn't needed to make me 100% happy:
7) SMS. Can you send back a pre-programmed quick response (preferably a choice from like 5 or so)?
8) The answer or call from the watch. How is the quality in a non-noisy environment? What happens if you are paired up to your car and watch - which one wins the fight, the car's built in bluetooth or the watch?
9) S-umm-Search (forgetting what it's called. S-Voice?). I have visions of giving a command through the watch and pulling out the phone from my pocket. By the time the phone is out, I'd like to see results.
10) Camera. Anyone know a place with bunches of sample pix? I'm not aiming for high quality, more a novelty then anything.
11) Apps. I presume trying to use Twitter or Evernote or anything is going to be mostly useless. It would be nice eventually, but nothing I can see where I wouldn't just use the phone. I've seen video of other watching uses things like Fleksy and umm.. cute, but not realistic.
12) The watch face: I've seen some video of the built in choices, but can you make your own or it that an api/developer thing. F'instance, if I want to make a Mickey Mouse watch can I do it?
Thanks for any help - looks like I've got a few days to make a decision!
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I've got a Sony Smartwatch (the original) and am thinking about replacing with a Gear. I have 2 reasons; My Sony watch died a week ago, and the Gear is a new toy
Questions that I would like answered about the Gear that I do (or used to do, anyway) with the Sony starting with the things I *need* it to do:
- Battery Life. I'm used to charging it every night, so as long as I can go 1 solid day, I'm good. However, Sony has this ridiculous proprietary cable, and I don't remember seeing in video what the Gear uses...?
- Vibration. I haven't seen it in video, but heard it mentioned a bit. Basically the MAIN thing I need the watch to do is vibrate when I get a call/sms/email. Ideally, this could do different vibrations (1 vibration for mail, 3 for sms, continuous for phone calls). I'm in noisy areas constantly and I don't want to miss calls.
- Speaker. Does it make noise when you get a sms/call/emal & can this be turned *off* ? I don't really need an audio alert on my watch.
- Summary of messages. I've seen mixed results by reading reviews. I'd like to see all of the SMS, and the sender/first line or so from email. (without needing to go to the phone)
- Caller ID. For phone calls, with the option to pick up the phone, and possibly activate the speaker phone on the phone.
- Tell the time. (I know it can, but through I'd throw it on my need to do list)
Just Gravy Stuff for me, anything below would be nice but isn't needed to make me 100% happy:
- SMS. Can you send back a pre-programmed quick response (preferably a choice from like 5 or so)?
- The answer or call from the watch. How is the quality in a non-noisy environment? What happens if you are paired up to your car and watch - which one wins the fight, the car's built in bluetooth or the watch?
- S-umm-Search (forgetting what it's called. S-Voice?). I have visions of giving a command through the watch and pulling out the phone from my pocket. By the time the phone is out, I'd like to see results.
- Camera. Anyone know a place with bunches of sample pix? I'm not aiming for high quality, more a novelty then anything.
- Apps. I presume trying to use Twitter or Evernote or anything is going to be mostly useless. It would be nice eventually, but nothing I can see where I wouldn't just use the phone. I've seen video of other watching uses things like Fleksy and umm.. cute, but not realistic.
- The watch face: I've seen some video of the built in choices, but can you make your own or it that an api/developer thing. F'instance, if I want to make a Mickey Mouse watch can I do it?
Thanks for any help - looks like I've got a few days to make a decision!
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You do realise that the Gear will, at present, only function with the Galaxy Note 3 don't you?
The new Sony Mk 11 (oddly named the 2 but it is in fact sony's third watch?) Will work with most Android devices. The Gear will not.
Ryland Johnson said:
You do realise that the Gear will, at present, only function with the Galaxy Note 3 don't you?
The new Sony Mk 11 (oddly named the 2 but it is in fact sony's third watch?) Will work with most Android devices. The Gear will not.
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I'm planning on getting the note 3 on Friday, but thanks for checking.
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I'm planning on getting the note 3 on Friday, but thanks for checking.
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Okay. can you edit your post and number each question so I can reply to each question please. Trying to reply would takes ages using any other manner. Thanks.
Lovin my Galaxy Gear
I had the S4 Active but still went ahead and bought the Galaxy Gear. I think its just fantastic. Yes, it didn't work with my Active, so i went and bought the Note 3 the next day. Once i got it started up and paired and played around with it for a day, i realized why the previous versions of androids (4.2) didn't work with it. The Gear, via bluetooth, is deeply integrated into the Note 3 OS. In Samsung Apps, it has its own collection and quite a good list of apps to start with (including evernote).
I'm gonna try and answer you queries but in random order, hope thats ok.
The phone vibrates while you receive notifications, be it calls or other alerts.
Once pairing is complete with the Note 3, you can use it just by itself.
The Gear is synced with your phone, so calls logs, contacts, everything shows on the screen.
It has caller id and the mic n speaker work perfectly.
You can change the face of the clock by selecting from the preinstalled options or download more from samsung apps for Gear.
Once you answer a call, you have the option to transfer it back to the phone or to a paired bluetooth headset.
Gear has a dialer when you swipe from the bottom upwards.
Camera does a decent job but i'm sure an software upgrade can make it better.
The Gear's software upgrade can be done via the Gear Manager app in the Note 3.
Battery has lasted almost the whole day for me, in spite of making calls, using the camera and fiddling with it all the time.
It can get a bit buggy at times while using third party apps but the default apps have given no trouble.
Hope this helps, if you need specific answers, do let me know.
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Okay. can you edit your post and number each question so I can reply to each question please. Trying to reply would takes ages using any other manner. Thanks.
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Easy enough - done.
@clickqass - thanks for the reply. Sounds like you're enjoying it!
polstein said:
I've got a Sony Smartwatch (the original) and am thinking about replacing with a Gear. I have 2 reasons; My Sony watch died a week ago, and the Gear is a new toy
Questions that I would like answered about the Gear that I do (or used to do, anyway) with the Sony starting with the things I *need* it to do:
1) Battery Life. I'm used to charging it every night, so as long as I can go 1 solid day, I'm good. However, Sony has this ridiculous proprietary cable, and I don't remember seeing in video what the Gear uses...?
2) Vibration. I haven't seen it in video, but heard it mentioned a bit. Basically the MAIN thing I need the watch to do is vibrate when I get a call/sms/email. Ideally, this could do different vibrations (1 vibration for mail, 3 for sms, continuous for phone calls). I'm in noisy areas constantly and I don't want to miss calls.
3) Speaker. Does it make noise when you get a sms/call/emal & can this be turned *off* ? I don't really need an audio alert on my watch.
4) Summary of messages. I've seen mixed results by reading reviews. I'd like to see all of the SMS, and the sender/first line or so from email. (without needing to go to the phone)
5) Caller ID. For phone calls, with the option to pick up the phone, and possibly activate the speaker phone on the phone.
6) Tell the time. (I know it can, but through I'd throw it on my need to do list)
Just Gravy Stuff for me, anything below would be nice but isn't needed to make me 100% happy:
7) SMS. Can you send back a pre-programmed quick response (preferably a choice from like 5 or so)?
8) The answer or call from the watch. How is the quality in a non-noisy environment? What happens if you are paired up to your car and watch - which one wins the fight, the car's built in bluetooth or the watch?
9) S-umm-Search (forgetting what it's called. S-Voice?). I have visions of giving a command through the watch and pulling out the phone from my pocket. By the time the phone is out, I'd like to see results.
10) Camera. Anyone know a place with bunches of sample pix? I'm not aiming for high quality, more a novelty then anything.
11) Apps. I presume trying to use Twitter or Evernote or anything is going to be mostly useless. It would be nice eventually, but nothing I can see where I wouldn't just use the phone. I've seen video of other watching uses things like Fleksy and umm.. cute, but not realistic.
12) The watch face: I've seen some video of the built in choices, but can you make your own or it that an api/developer thing. F'instance, if I want to make a Mickey Mouse watch can I do it?
Thanks for any help - looks like I've got a few days to make a decision!
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1) The gear uses a cradle to charge the phone, the cable is NOT connected to the watch, the watch sit into or snaps into a complete surround type cradle then the charging cable fits into the cradle. If you leave home for a few days one would need to carry this cradle of one could not recharge the watch. I doubt the Mk2 will be like this, its rather odd.
The battery life is so objective. It will depend on usage. I am getting three clear days so far but have only had the gear since Friday 27th. I would imagine, I don't know, but It is possible for a heavy user to get through the battery in 24 hours. So many factors come into play, the brightness settings to name only one.
2) The gear vibrates and can be calibrated.
3) Turned OFF obviously nothing works. On standby the quality of the speaker is less harsh than the Note 3, it is also plenty loud enough.
4) So far this works for me. I do not know if the SMS would be truncated at some point though due to size?
5) Don't really understand the question. Caller ID does show on the watch.
.......Hang on I have just realised something, rather than me boring you with amateur answers you could go to the Samsung sight and down load the manual as I have done:laugh: I should have made that number one :good:
Just tried to upload it for you but it exceeds the forum limits. Sorry. Go to Samsung and download the manual, all is explained there.
Regards.
Ryland Johnson said:
1) The gear uses a cradle to charge the phone, the cable is NOT connected to the watch, the watch sit into or snaps into a complete surround type cradle then the charging cable fits into the cradle. If you leave home for a few days one would need to carry this cradle of one could not recharge the watch. I doubt the Mk2 will be like this, its rather odd.
The battery life is so objective. It will depend on usage. I am getting three clear days so far but have only had the gear since Friday 27th. I would imagine, I don't know, but It is possible for a heavy user to get through the battery in 24 hours. So many factors come into play, the brightness settings to name only one.
2) The gear vibrates and can be calibrated.
3) Turned OFF obviously nothing works. On standby the quality of the speaker is less harsh than the Note 3, it is also plenty loud enough.
4) So far this works for me. I do not know if the SMS would be truncated at some point though due to size?
5) Don't really understand the question. Caller ID does show on the watch.
.......Hang on I have just realised something, rather than me boring you with amateur answers you could go to the Samsung sight and down load the manual as I have done:laugh: I should have made that number one :good:
Just tried to upload it for you but it exceeds the forum limits. Sorry. Go to Samsung and download the manual, all is explained there.
Regards.
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Overall how would you rate the GG? Do you feel its actually useful or more of a toy?
2 questions as I ponder purchase.
1. What is the range before the watch and phone lose connectivity? I hear it's only 5 feet.
2. When you received an MMS or Picture mail does it appear on the watch screen?
Or do I have to open the phone to view the pic.
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Overall how would you rate the GG? Do you feel its actually useful or more of a toy?
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Good question. I need more time with it to make a more knowledgeable assessment. I will keep you posted. So far I would say 50-50. I don't think it indispensable. Give me a week. BTW, the software has just been updated. Seems Samsung are on their toes?
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xManMythLegend said:
2 questions as I ponder purchase.
1. What is the range before the watch and phone lose connectivity? I hear it's only 5 feet.
2. When you received an MMS or Picture mail does it appear on the watch screen?
Or do I have to open the phone to view the pic.
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More like 10m. Who told you 5'?
Cant yet answer your second question.
How is the viewing in day light? Saw a video which showed horrible viewing in direct light but wanted to get a user's opinion. Any trouble seeing it outside?
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Good question. I need more time with it to make a more knowledgeable assessment. I will keep you posted. So far I would say 50-50. I don't think it indispensable. Give me a week. BTW, the software has just been updated. Seems Samsung are on their toes?
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More like 10m. Who told you 5'?
Cant yet answer your second question.
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An early preview said the phone locks itself automatically when the Gear is out of range and they said it's approximately 5 feet. Noone else has mentioned it.
Since we are forum best friends I will send you an MMS for testing.
Thoughts on it, display in sunlight, battery life, handling of notifications, look/feel of it on your wrist..... basically anything to do with the watch!
i like it. granted that its a new class of its own, i still get confused especially when i get multiple notifications on an app (ie hangouts). its confusing where the group text starts or if im still being shown a private text..
the screen is kinda hard to read in direct sunlight but tilting it a bit or using a different watch face helps.
i like the feel of it.. i preferred this over the g watch coz of the added feature and the look.
I really like it; however, screen is difficult to see in sunlight at times; screen is also a smudge magnet which adds to difficulties in seeing the display outdoors.
Love it - compared to the sony smartwatch and the Galaxy Gear it really has great improvements. Only Day 2, but my initial thoughts:
Pros
- Look/feel - it is little large (I don't have big wrists) but still stylish.
- Screen: awesome that the clock is always on, this was my biggest gripe about the Gear
- Usefulness: I've spent time training Google Now, and that's really paid off. Notifications mean i take my phone out of my pocket a lot less, and Google Now surfaces reminders and other useful info pretty well (although you don't have a lot of control over the order of notifications etc). The fact that it syncs dismissed notifications on the phone immediately is, in a word, awesome
- Apps: early days yet on this, but most big apps I'm sure will integrate so you can do the key features easily
- Voice recognition works great so far
Cons
- No speaker means if you want to do stuff without looking at the screen with your voice, it's harder. But seems like something I can live with
- Charging dongle is kinda annoying to fit on, and have to remember to travel with
- Starting an app (say Fit) takes a few too many swipes (if you're in a place where you don't want to be speaking to your wrist...)
A lot of the other potential "cons" like not many watch face designs, no feature to locate your phone (I know there's an app for this though) I reckon will play out over time and Google can fix pretty quickly...
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, no feature to locate your phone (I know there's an app for this though) I reckon will play out over time and Google can fix pretty quickly...
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Take a look at this one for that: Wear Aware
i'm pleasantly surprised with how much i'm enjoying it.
my first full day with it will be tomorrow so i haven't taken it outside in the sunlight much yet, but checking email, counting steps, reading and replying to texts (i use evolve and it works great) is great and much more reliable and smoother than it was on my OG gear, and it's proving to be far more useful than my pebble.
the strap is actually quite comfortable and i'm glad i didn't buy a new strap before getting the watch.
the charging cradle, if you put it on tab side first it snaps in much easier. it's annoying but i haven't found it to be the spawn of lucifer as some people were screaming about it. treat it like part of a $200 gadget and it will be fine. mash it on like the hulk and it's going to break, it is plastic tabs after all.
i used it for about 7 hours today and it's now around 65% remaining. moderate use, but i def was clicking and swiping for no reason since it's new as well. i am pretty sure i'll have to charge it every night, but i don't sleep with a watch on and i charge my phone every night too, so i don't see it as being a big issue. my pebble lasted longer, but it would often die since i didn't have a set pattern on when to charge and would head out and a few hours later realize i had 20% left.
so in short, i'm happy, yes there are growing pains but those are the early adopter blues.
So far very please for what it can do. Regarding bot visible in sunlight, tell me what phone is visible in sunlight. None of them are great, only the kinfpdle due to the ink screen it has. I can wait till indoors or in shade. 9 more days testing and then deciding to keep or not. Off charging cradle at 6:30am today and as of this post still has 34% left. About the same as my previous Gear watch.
Ian B
The number of apps pouring in each day are a great sign for the platform as a whole. The Tizen gears were nothing like this.
Quick reply.... I like it. Had Nero, no comparison.
I've had a few issues and design factors that I'd like changed:
Hate the alarm mute icon. I would love to figure out a way to hide that on the clock face. Would make the watch look more watchie if you will.
Also would like to only wake the watch from the button vice touchscreen, or atleast an option to set that insettings.
Does anyone else find themselves open palming your watch to put it in hybernate?
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Does anyone else find themselves open palming your watch to put it in hybernate?
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I pressed it against my forehead earlier because I was in bed and my other arm wasn't free.
SkuzFoz said:
I pressed it against my forehead earlier because I was in bed and my other arm wasn't free.
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This really made me LOL
I'll be the lone wolf in the wilderness by bucking the trend and saying that I'm very disappointed with my Gear Live. I'm a gadget lover and really wanted to love this device. But I was far more enthusiastic about this thing before I actually received it. Once I had one, I quickly grew disappointed with it.
Out of the box, pairing with my Nexus 5 took multiple attempts. Once I finally did get it paired, only the stock apps would work. Any apps that I downloaded from the Play store would run on my phone but the watch interface would never show up (no matter how many times I tried to force the apps to sync via the Android Wear app or rebooted the watch).
Factory resetting the watch and starting again cleared up that problem but I still found the functionality of the watch to be quirky at best. Add to that the fact that the screen is virtually impossible to read outdoors, the lack of support for continuous heart rate monitoring, and the sudden dramatic drop in my Nexus 5's battery life (which cleared up after I uninstalled the Android Wear app).
Bottom line for me is that this isn't ready to replace my old fashioned watch. So until I read about some new killer Wear app that I can't live without, the Gear Live had gone back into its box to be stored away. I'm hoping that the software will mature quickly to a point where I can give it another try.
Does gear live suport sleep monitoring? Can it automatically figure out that user is cycling?
How good is the fitness tracking on it?
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I don't know how much longer I can put up with Samsung. I've been with them since the note 1 and it's so bad now. Everything from poor software to faulty hardware. GPS seems like its never worked correctly, no matter what they do. Updates cripple their phones. Their camera has certainly gone backwards in quality since the note 4 camera. The phone is lagging and slow always. Even in safe mode. The battery life is 3 hours at best, which is unacceptable. They force updates now, like Microsoft. They bundle things that you can't remove like facebook and instagram, but make you separately download their media players? That's backwards. The reception is horrible compared to other phones. Wi-Fi drops all the time, even next to my router. It has to warn me every single time I plug in headphones that it could damage my hearing. It has to notify me every single time I open the camera that location is either on or off. Charging is slow. Games shudder and lag no matter what I do. I can remove huge, useless apps like facebook. I can't root because of the locked bootloaders. I can't ever quickly see my new facebook messages because it has to now group multiple notifications and there is no way to turn off the "open chat heads" nonsense. The only thing mine doesn't do is over heat it seems like. That green battery ic9on update with the ultimate new UI completely compromised my Note. T-Mobile won't take it back without paying $50 either.
Samsung seems to have turned their backs on what their actual fans want in favor of being an iClone. Why does every single app and menu have a search bar now? Annoying. The drop down menu and notifications have severely dropped in quality since ICS. Does anyone else feel this way at all? It took me a long time to swallow my pride and get the note 2 way back when. Now I regret that I did. I can't find a way around these issues and no one will help.
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I've always found myself explaining to people about how great the Pebble 2 is which many people never really knew about because it's not one of the more expensive and prestigious brands like an Apple Watch. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Tech Junkie and can afford whatever watch I want, but I'm also not one looking to pay a higher price just to wear something to impress people - I want good functionality, practicality and value. Nothing could match my Pebble 2. When I told people I only need to charge it once every 5-7 days, they are flabbergasted. Heart Rate Monitor? Check. HUGE selection of custom 3rd party apps. Check. Design your own custom watch face with dynamic stats (like temp, phone signal strength, etc.)? Check. Waterproof to the point you can swim with it on? Check.
All that, under $150? Check.
Now, my eyes have grown old and I can barely read the text messages that come through as it is a pretty small face. I don't NEED color - I prefer long battery life. So what's out there (I'm an Android Phone User) that people would say is the closest replacement that has a bigger screen? Maybe I just keep wearing my Pebble and wear trifocals all the time - no thanks.
My MUST haves are:
- Long battery life (no more than 2 charges per week are necessary)
- Waterproof (can swim in it)
- Heart Rate Monitor
- Large screen, but I'm not an NFL player so not too gigantic
Nice to haves but not MUSTS:
- SOME degree of customization (some 3rd party apps, custom watch screen design, etc.)
- Built in GPS (I really don't need this - I'm not a runner and my phone is always with me, so would rather avoid paying extra for it, but if I have to have it to get other stuff I must have then so be it.)
All I really need the watch to do is: tell me the date and time, show my text messages and notifications (with setting to increase default text size), track my fitness activities, and don't bug me about charging it every 1-2 days.
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Amazfit bip, Stratos, pace
All Amazfit (bip Stratos....) have almost 0 connected feature, just basic notification a Weather wich works only sometime and nothing else. 0 connected app, so not really smartwatch, maybe just a poor tracker
dersie said:
All Amazfit (bip Stratos....) have almost 0 connected feature, just basic notification a Weather wich works only sometime and nothing else. 0 connected app, so not really smartwatch, maybe just a poor tracker
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Can you give some examples of "connected features" you think that most users would find extremely useful in their daily lives? I've found with many devices, a lot of bells and whistles are just that, bells and whistles to brag about having and when you look at your actual use of the device, you find you really don't use those features.
For example, on my Pebble 2, I can reply to text messages both using canned text responses or voice transcription by talking into the watch. I've had the watch for like 3 years and I've used the text reply maybe two or three times and the voice transcription once. When I used it, I thought, "that was sort of cool." But then why didn't I ever use it again? Because it wasn't THAT useful considering 99% of the time I have my phone sitting next to me or in my pants or jacket pocket and talking to my watch I look like a complete DORK. I can just easily type the reply on my phone. The notification is what's important as sometimes I'm in another room, or have it in my jacket in a place I can't hear the notification or feel the vibration.
So I'm still quite interested in what "connected features" a Bip doesn't come with that are so useful?
In my pebble I add item to my shopping list every day with WunderVoice, I read my List on my pebble with WunderPebble : shopping, to do,........, I read my Google Task, I look every time at the moon location, I take quick note and view also memo quickly, I look at my next event calendar, I mark read my mail notification, I can select snooze 5,10, 30min or dismiss my event calendar, I use multiple timers for 25min, 30min, 35min, 40min to look at my grilled meat, I look my phone battery, I can set my phone to vibe or mute with my pebble , I start some task with tasker, I use multi counter to count different things.....
All this can be done with few click in 10s, in this time I have not the time to put my phone out my pocket
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In my pebble I add item to my shopping list every day with WunderVoice, I read my List on my pebble with WunderPebble : shopping, to do,........, I read my Google Task, I look every time at the moon location, I take quick note and view also memo quickly, I look at my next event calendar, I mark read my mail notification, I can select snooze 5,10, 30min or dismiss my event calendar, I use multiple timers for 25min, 30min, 35min, 40min to look at my grilled meat, I look my phone battery, I can set my phone to vibe or mute with my pebble , I start some task with tasker, I use multi counter to count different things.....
All this can be done with few click in 10s, in this time I have not the time to put my phone out my pocket
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With most all of that, shopping list, tasks, moon location, notes - can you explain what *specific benefits* there are to using your watch instead of your phone to input information (via keyboard or voice) and to read lists of information (considering the phone has a much bigger screen)? Why is using the watch so much better to do those things?
Easier and quicker
dersie said:
All Amazfit (bip Stratos....) have almost 0 connected feature, just basic notification a Weather wich works only sometime and nothing else. 0 connected app, so not really smartwatch, maybe just a poor tracker
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Was not the main scope of the op
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Easier and quicker
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Man, you must be beside yourself trying to figure out what to do with all that spare time the watch creates being so much quicker?
I just switched back from an Amazfit Pace to my Pebble 2 SE. Notifications just don't work reliably on the Amazfit, and all the fitness stuff is too much for me. I just want a geeky watch with working notifications. That's a Pebble 2 SE
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I just switched back from an Amazfit Pace to my Pebble 2 SE. Notifications just don't work reliably on the Amazfit, and all the fitness stuff is too much for me. I just want a geeky watch with working notifications. That's a Pebble 2 SE
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I've also returned my pace due to bad battery life and notification reliability. I'm using a BIP and the notifications are there in real time(using gadgetbridge like before with PTS) and it gives me a minimum of 4 WEEKS of battery life :highfive:
No single freeze or glitch since months, absolutely reliable for that price! Custom watchfaces easily made.
My 2nd Pebble 2 HR just died & I've been shopping to replace it, but havent found anything that does everything I need it to, or that my Pebble used to. I had upgraded to Rebble prior to their deaths, paid for voice and weather since Rebble was up. I had found some good sites to investigate: Smartwatch Series website lets you look at detailed valuations of specs and comparisons of many smartwatches.
Battery is one of my biggest anxieties, but glowing screens or timeouts also was a concern. I tried the Samsung Gear Sport, then the Samsung Galaxy Active 2, and although they had many great features and 2+ days of use between charges (Active 2 only) with comparable use-time to my pebble, the screen glowed if on all the time, and when I went swimming, the screen face would change unless I locked it before entering the water.
I settled with a compromise... I was able to get a new PowerWatch 2 Luxe edition (usually $699) for $400. Still, way to expensive, but, I get messages (no reply), health basics, always on LCD screen (no glow) with back-lit ability, Heat Rate and GPS, and NO CHARGING NEEDED. EVER. Solar and thermoelectric engine (backup wireless charging dock included just in case) keep it charged always. I can't do voice, can't customize my watch face, can't load apps (stopwatch and timer are there), and no weather.
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My 2nd Pebble 2 HR just died & I've been shopping to replace it, but havent found anything that does everything I need it to, or that my Pebble used to. I had upgraded to Rebble prior to their deaths, paid for voice and weather since Rebble was up. I had found some good sites to investigate: Smartwatch Series website lets you look at detailed valuations of specs and comparisons of many smartwatches.
Battery is one of my biggest anxieties, but glowing screens or timeouts also was a concern. I tried the Samsung Gear Sport, then the Samsung Galaxy Active 2, and although they had many great features and 2+ days of use between charges (Active 2 only) with comparable use-time to my pebble, the screen glowed if on all the time, and when I went swimming, the screen face would change unless I locked it before entering the water.
I settled with a compromise... I was able to get a new PowerWatch 2 Luxe edition (usually $699) for $400. Still, way to expensive, but, I get messages (no reply), health basics, always on LCD screen (no glow) with back-lit ability, Heat Rate and GPS, and NO CHARGING NEEDED. EVER. Solar and thermoelectric engine (backup wireless charging dock included just in case) keep it charged always. I can't do voice, can't customize my watch face, can't load apps (stopwatch and timer are there), and no weather.
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Interesting charging design maybe something for the future watches and prices will drop hopefully...
Why not just buy a brand new Pebble 2 on Ebay for low $100 range? You could by two of them, one for future, and save money while we all wait for someone to actually design a good watch for a good price, like the Pebble 2. The only thing lacking on the Pebble 2 is that it's not designer/fancy looking. Otherwise it is still by far the best bang for the buck - battery lasting nearly a week! Lots of apps and customizations. Puts these higher priced watches to shame in the flexibility of the functionality and battery life. But it's no status symbol that people want for their watch, unless you consider being an intelligent buyer a status symbol. LOL.
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Why not just buy a brand new Pebble 2 on Ebay for low $100 range? You could by two of them, one for future, and save money while we all wait for someone to actually design a good watch for a good price, like the Pebble 2. The only thing lacking on the Pebble 2 is that it's not designer/fancy looking. Otherwise it is still by far the best bang for the buck - battery lasting nearly a week! Lots of apps and customizations. Puts these higher priced watches to shame in the flexibility of the functionality and battery life. But it's no status symbol that people want for their watch, unless you consider being an intelligent buyer a status symbol. LOL.
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The problem when buying those pebbles: the battery is several years old and might not have a good capacity.
Actually I'm testing a Honor Magic Watch 2 and it's very good, actually one week usage with GPS and lots of calls and down to 49%:good:
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The problem when buying those pebbles: the battery is several years old and might not have a good capacity.
Actually I'm testing a Honor Magic Watch 2 and it's very good, actually one week usage with GPS and lots of calls and down to 49%:good:
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I read a review and it sounds promising if you can live without the ability to download apps.
My main question would be, on my Pebble, I can get notifications from all the apps on my phone and select which ones I want to get and which ones I don't want to get, so I'm not just limited to SMS and Email notifications. Can this watch do that, so for instance if the Amazon app displays a notification about a shipment on my phone, will it show on the watch?
Also wondering if a firmware upate fixed this...
"Talking of notifications, we found these to be a little buggy. Most of the time phone notifications came through to the device without issue, but now and then they didn’t come through until some time after they should have, and we also found some notifications came through to the watch multiple times, though we never worked out why."
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I read a review and it sounds promising if you can live without the ability to download apps.
My main question would be, on my Pebble, I can get notifications from all the apps on my phone and select which ones I want to get and which ones I don't want to get, so I'm not just limited to SMS and Email notifications. Can this watch do that, so for instance if the Amazon app displays a notification about a shipment on my phone, will it show on the watch?
Also wondering if a firmware upate fixed this...
"Talking of notifications, we found these to be a little buggy. Most of the time phone notifications came through to the device without issue, but now and then they didn’t come through until some time after they should have, and we also found some notifications came through to the watch multiple times, though we never worked out why."
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Everything is working so far. Your quote to my post for example, was notified by fair mail which I selected and shown then on the watch, see pics As long as a notification pop-up is shown on the status bar it will work, but one app did not work it's delta.chat. Don't know why, still investigating. Maybe a app or health issue
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Everything is working so far. Your quote to my post for example, was notified by fair mail which I selected and shown then on the watch, see pics As long as a notification pop-up is shown on the status bar it will work, but one app did not work it's delta.chat. Don't know why, still investigating. Maybe a app or health issue
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I'm guessing you can't prevent notifications from certain apps on only the watch?
Did you consider the Amazfit GTS? They seem similar but the Amazfit I think is considerably cheaper.
jazee said:
I'm guessing you can't prevent notifications from certain apps on only the watch?
Did you consider the Amazfit GTS? They seem similar but the Amazfit I think is considerably cheaper.
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You can select the notification what you want to be shown on the watch, see screenshot. Or do you want to have a notification only to be shown on the watch, but not on the phone?
I ordered both watches and the following are my personal pros and cons.
Amazfit GTS: 128€
-can't make calls
-no storage for music
-GPS not that accurate
-no SpO2
Honor Magic Watch 2: 146€
-round design(I wanted a round watch again)