Banned from sony forum for saying t has heat issue - Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V

Does anyone else think that this is stupid. First I create a topic that the t has issues and decided to tell them about one of the experiences I had from sony customer support. It was horrible, they lied in front of my face because I told her the t has heat issues and she said this has not been reported. I then gave her 5 different topics on sony xperia forum and in the forum they said that they will report it. She says there are no reports about it. I then express how disgusted I was about this dangerous phone. And then they ban me. Then they send me an email about I said an xperia play had heat issues when I clearly said xperia t and in the email she said she telephoned me. WHAT? I have not given any number to sony. I urge everyone to not buy a sony phone. No wonder why they are bankrupt.
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Well I don't like Sony's customer service all that much either I've owned a couple of Xperia's and I've never enjoyed talking to them but on aanother
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Yes the Xperia T gets hot but to me that's not an issue it has over heat controls built-in so try not to worry so much about it.

I don't care the overheat control does not do anything and my phone smells like its going to burn the back off and the phone destroys sd cards. I thought overheat control would prevent this but it doesn't
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Sony customer service in my opinion is horrible. My Xperia T worked perfectly for 5 months and then i got a screen with White dots issue. I sent it to the repair center and after 3 weeks i got it back with no accelerometer! I mean that the accelerometer was not detected by the phone and the screen was always vertical with some random rebooting. I sent it back to those idiots and after a week at the repair center they replaced the motherboard and now the screen turns black and doesn't turn on, it happens 4 or 5 times per day, forcing to soft reset the phone... It happens randomly and after flashing other firmwares and "repairing" with PC Companion i didn't solve the issue. I called Sony Xperia Care several times and i sent them an email asking for a new device and finally they told me that this time they'll give me a NEW device.
I mean maybe i got very unlucky but it's unbelievable that they f***** up with the repair twice!! We're talking about Sony, not an unknown chinese brand... I just want a working device! The T is a good phone according to me but i don't think i will buy another Xperia after this experience.

FaiselW said:
I don't care the overheat control does not do anything and my phone smells like its going to burn the back off and the phone destroys sd cards. I thought overheat control would prevent this but it doesn't
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Yeah that sounds a bit Extreme there might be an issue with your Xperia T.

When your phone gets over 40c smell the back it smells like it is going to melt itself try it
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Torres77an said:
Yeah that sounds a bit Extreme there might be an issue with your Xperia T.
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The only time my Xperia t got hot was when trying cyanogenmod roms. I suggest you don't try them if your phone has issues anyway.
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lunarjetman1 said:
The only time my Xperia t got hot was when trying cyanogenmod roms. I suggest you don't try them if your phone has issues anyway.
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Why are you quoting me ? I'm not the one with over heat issues my XT only gets hot after game play and other extensive tasks but it's not an issue.

lunarjetman1 said:
The only time my Xperia t got hot was when trying cyanogenmod roms. I suggest you don't try them if your phone has issues anyway.
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Sorry, I meant to quote the post with 40c in it.
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Either all xperia t's have overheating problem or just mine but whatever. I can get this f****r up to about 38c within 10 minutes of switching on. I will show you how it happens. First switch the phone on, then turn wifi and gps on only, auto brightness then click on the internet browser and browse some pages. This is with stock rom as I cannot unlock the bootloader. Try it it shows the heat problems with the phone and you will see. Sorry for swearing but no other way to describe it.
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The only time i have had worries about my phone heating up was running either CM10.1 at one point, or Petres Rom when he change some stuff.
i never have issues normally, so i would say your phone is faulty, and possibly a few others out there, but it's certainly not a major issue with all T's

Just to add my few cents on this subject.
If by "overheating" you mean temperatures about 40 degrees, then I guess it is totally normal behavior, when doing some heavy tasks.
I am also using stock 4.1.2, and I'm not experiencing any abnormal overheating. Yes, sometimes it gets a little bit warmer when browsing the web with Chrome, but it is tolerable. For example, it gets about 40 degrees when I'm playing game for a long time, but never goes much higher than that. Just today I was playing Frontiers for a few hours, charging battery two times today already, and it never got hotter than 40-42 degrees.
Honestly, my last phone, Xperia Arc S, was getting much much hotter on heavy gaming than Xperia T gets now. So I'm not panicking about this at all. Either you're not used to this kind of phone behavior, or maybe your unit is faulty to some extent.

I know 40 is pretty normal but getting it in 10 minutes of switching phone on is not
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Well I'm in the same boat in regards to supporting Sony. I feel that they have really let me down. Lack of support in updates and troubleshoot. sorry Sony, but you have hurt my feelings. Good bye

mr_torture said:
Just to add my few cents on this subject.
If by "overheating" you mean temperatures about 40 degrees, then I guess it is totally normal behavior, when doing some heavy tasks.
I am also using stock 4.1.2, and I'm not experiencing any abnormal overheating. Yes, sometimes it gets a little bit warmer when browsing the web with Chrome, but it is tolerable. For example, it gets about 40 degrees when I'm playing game for a long time, but never goes much higher than that. Just today I was playing Frontiers for a few hours, charging battery two times today already, and it never got hotter than 40-42 degrees.
Honestly, my last phone, Xperia Arc S, was getting much much hotter on heavy gaming than Xperia T gets now. So I'm not panicking about this at all. Either you're not used to this kind of phone behavior, or maybe your unit is faulty to some extent.
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Actually my xperia play overclocked to 1.6ghz gets max 38 so how can an arc s with a lower clock speed get that hot with the same processor as the play
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So, you're asking ME how? Ask Sony developers, and hardware manufacturers. Also, you got several threads in Arc forums about heating, so you can check them any time you want. Also, the point of my post is that every phone nowadays is having "heating" issue, as people describe it. I think there are "overheating" threads on 90% of Android devices, here on XDA. Tiny devices, packing powerful processors, with almost no cooling, ofcourse these will get hot with heavy overload. Now back on question, I don't have my Arc S anymore, but I remember that area where cpu is placed tends to be so warm that it's unpleasant holding your finger there. To repeat again, much much hotter than on T.

It is just sony which is the problem. Xperia z1 people said was overheating it goes up to 50c! Galaxy note 3 and lg g2 never get to 50c and all have same processer, same ram (note 3 3gb ram) and they don't get to 50c. This is a lot of owners which have this problem
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I don't know then. Maybe Sony is heating more than others. I can't really say since I never used any other Android device beside Sony. I know that there are dozens of similar threads on many other devices forums.
All in all, only thing that could make me go away from Sony, is lazy update policy. First with X10, then with Arc S, and now with T. My patience with Sony is coming close to point of no return. I would never switch Sony hardware+design for some other brand, but customer "care" is killing Sony, year after year.

FaiselW said:
Actually my xperia play overclocked to 1.6ghz gets max 38 so how can an arc s with a lower clock speed get that hot with the same processor as the play
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different chip sets, hardware, command lines etc even if you think the chip set is the same as its labelled the same it could well be different its more complicated than that ... take the galaxy ace some CPU's i could get to overclock to 1.4GHz where as others would make 1.2 and alot wouldnt even make that (i have had 8 ace's myself and have modded around 30 for friends who just didnt like the samsung stock) just comparing clock speeds and things like that for example i have a pc with a single core GHz intel processor and a pc with a dual core intel processor at GHz (so that's equivalent of GHz) ..... on that the dual core should get hotter but it gets to around 25 and sits there almost no matter what i throw at it where as the 3.7 single core regularly reaches up to 45 when its just playing a song not even doing anything hard really ..... have tested this on xp, 7 and ubuntu all with the same results ..... going back to the mobile phone my arc s used to reach 42 with heavy use and my T reached around 38 so im not worried about the heat

FaiselW said:
I know 40 is pretty normal but getting it in 10 minutes of switching phone on is not
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I do not agree. If I do what you described in one of your previous posts, my V will reach easily 40 C. Especially the GPS sensor is a relevant mA consumer. The power it consumes will be generating heat. The same happened when I was applying a new ROM, the first day the phone was unpleasant warm to hot.
But mine does not smell when hot. If your's does then that would be an easy case to demonstrate live to a customer service person, and the way how you write it, it seems this is easy to replicate. Then why do you bother with quarrelling with them on the net? What do you think, how many people come around a customer service every day with nothing more than a hot fart?
Unless you come up with some new aspects, I am not intending to write any more than that to the issue.

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[Q] Over Heating Issue

I am currently using a GNEX that is now almost 2 years old so i am due for a new phone. So far the Xperia Z is at the top of my list followed by the HTC One.
However there is one thing that bothers me about the Z. The overheating issues i have been hearing about.
To current Z owners. How bad is this issue and has Sony explained what is causing this and if they intend to fix it?
I don't think there is an overheating issue. The phone back gets a bit hot under certain conditions but never has it affected my use. I have a feeling it is due to the tight packaging of the phone and the use of glass which causes this, but I really isn't an issue. Don't let that scare you away from the phone.
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Yes, it is not a problem at all. Trust me. Also, I integrated the 3-phase thermal protection into my custom kernel and it works like a charm, keeping it cool all the time.
It does get warm rather quick but it is really only a warmth, not "hot". My old milestone 2 used to be permanently warm and quite hot when using it (especially internet use on 3g). My S2 was usually pretty cool, but got close to painfully hot when playing intensive games like modern combat. So far, the xperia Z hasn't got as hot as either of these phones for me.
The phone does get hot but only when using chrome so I'm sure its not an issue just a bug. I know that phones can get a little hot and I accept that but when I first experienced the heat coming from the top of the phone it was enough to worry me. I am however confident that it will be resolved so I'm not worried.
I really never heard that issue before...
Buy this and amaze
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To be exact there is no such thing in the XZ as overheating. At least I did not hear of "overheating". Some phones tend to get a bit warmer during intensive tasks, but not excessive.
BTW, the difference between a bit warm and overheating is that overheating is actually a thermal "shock" that would usually lead to a restart of your device, or a smoking device.
well mine gets hot when i use the screen a lot. System Tuner shows me that the cpu gets up to 49 degrees. I'm really thinking of buying Cooler Master 212 for the cpu I'm really concerned about the cpu life.
brutal_noise said:
well mine gets hot when i use the screen a lot. System Tuner shows me that the cpu gets up to 49 degrees. I'm really thinking of buying Cooler Master 212 for the cpu I'm really concerned about the cpu life.
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This phone will be worth about $10 by the time the CPU is affected!
hope so !
Hi,
Just thought i would let you know. I had my Xperia Z three weeks. On sunday it was on charge and my phone rang. I took it off charge and answered the call.
The screen was extremely hot then it cracked in my ear. There are a few others that i know of on sony forums who reported this issue but Sony are refusing to replace my phone saying its not a "manufacturing issue".
Im left without a phone and starting legal action against them.
anthvxne said:
Hi,
Just thought i would let you know. I had my Xperia Z three weeks. On sunday it was on charge and my phone rang. I took it off charge and answered the call.
The screen was extremely hot then it cracked in my ear. There are a few others that i know of on sony forums who reported this issue but Sony are refusing to replace my phone saying its not a "manufacturing issue".
Im left without a phone and starting legal action against them.
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Really? Please let us know if you get anything from Sony in the lawsuit.
I also happen To have this issue, my phone gets got to the point it hurts my skin! I even use a case and the case gets really hot too
When i play S.surfers for about 45 minutes I see that the game doesn't run smoothly.Eventually the display also becomes warmer and that results that the display does not respond properly on my fingers.
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I also happen To have this issue, my phone gets got to the point it hurts my skin! I even use a case and the case gets really hot too
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with the latest firmware (.244) the phone runs even cooler than with the previous firmware (.423). Also, intensive games lag less.
alnikki25k said:
Yes, it is not a problem at all. Trust me. Also, I integrated the 3-phase thermal protection into my custom kernel and it works like a charm, keeping it cool all the time.
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give me that kernel i am on now 4.4.4 stock my phone heat so much

Xperia Z battery life gone 3h!!! Dont buy it!

Hello everyone!!
I recently bought an Xperia Z, but the problem is that the battery depletes after 3hours of onscreen time?, i went to the store and they too found it strange since it should have around 6 or 7 hours of onscreen time.
They exchanged the phone and gave me a new one, and sadly that phone had the exact same problem( REALLY!!?!?!!), and to top that, it's with screenlight at 25% and every battery heavy options turned off.
So i went to the store to get a refund. In the store another guy had exchanged his Xperia Z 4 times till He got a Z with a battery that worked as intended....
I will never buy a sony product again after this letdown..
And i would definitely not exchange my phone 4 times to hit the "Working-Battery lottery!"
It seems there is some sort of failure in the release of many of the Z's released, i found this guy with same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191530
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I also have bad battery life, but yet I don't see your point of making this topic at all.
6/7h on screen time really yo? On a 1080p screen... maybe next year. There are plenty of people that reached 5h+
If you want 7h on screen time, get an iPhone LOL! That way we would get rid of you and you would be with the other sheeple.
Topic is useless, can't believe you made an account just to say that.
LOL How old are you?
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gm007 said:
LOL How old are you?
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gm007 said:
LOL How old are you?
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I don't get it, my battery lasts all day, I charge through the night and take it out at 7 roughly. Then I use it through the day playing games like shadowgun and using social networking sites like Facebook. I also use gmail quite often and I also watch YouTube videos aswell. If I have brightness automatic and battery stamina mode it can last me throughout the day. I haven't charged my phone sine 7 and I still have 13% charge left.
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Dsteppa said:
If you want 7h on screen time, get an iPhone LOL! That way we would get rid of you and you would be with the other sheeple.
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Pretty sure that wouldn't even work. One of the girls I work with just got an iphone 5 and the battery drains like crazy on that thing. She starts at 3am, and by ~8 she is below 15% and has to charge pretty soon after. Then she has to charge when she gets home, and again when she goes to sleep.
Meanwhile, I am one of the heaviest power users I know of, I use my phone for work (flashlight, camera, calendar, calculator, barcode scanner), frequently check facebook, ragecomics reader app, general web browsing and play store browsing, small downloads eg mp3, apps, flashable .zip tweaks from here, frequently check simpsons tapped out, play some dead trigger, watch about 30 -60 mins of movies, receive a few calls and texts, maybe 10-20 mins of music playback. Out of habit I normally pull my phone out every 10-15 minutes and unlock it, flick around absent mindedlu, then lock it again after not actually opening anything :\ not sure how I picked up that habit.
To top all that off, I have my screen brightness set to 100% with adjust to lighting conditions ticked, I have location services and sattelites on, auto sync on, 4g data always on, wifi on but location based activated, NFC on, and finally, also have better battery stats installed and allways doing it's thing as I am also experiencing some rougue wakelocks I am slowly dealing with (still stumped on what is causing audio_out2 and deleted_wake_lock)
Despite all this, my phone comes off charge around 330am, and doesn't charge till 8pmish when it finally runs out of juice. That is one hell of a solid effort as I have done pretty much nothing to help out my battery, and doing everything to make it struggle.
I have only undervolted slightly, and am using doomkernel on KA04 rom. I am not using stamina mode either. Infact, when I was using it on stock rom, I couldn't see any difference between using it and not using it. I can't really see how it would do much IF you had NO wakelocks (or very little). Besides knocking out LED all it really does it disable background processes, if you have your phone set up right you shouldn't really have any anyway:good:.
This phone leaves my previous galaxy S2 in it's dust for battery life under the same usage in anycase (I used to charge that thing about 3 times a day most days).
gm007 said:
LOL How old are you?
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+3 or whatever that is up to now.
All phones take time and a number of charges before the battery stabilises, and start running at optimum.
danw_oz said:
+3 or whatever that is up to now.
All phones take time and a number of charges before the battery stabilises, and start running at optimum.
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My battery was pretty bad when I just got the phone, now it's better
Can we just put all of these meaningless threads into 1 meaningless thread?
gm007 said:
LOL How old are you?
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AnnaQQ said:
I will never buy a sony product again after this letdown..
And i would definitely not exchange my phone 4 times to hit the "Working-Battery lottery!"
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That's nice , tell me more about bad battery life :laugh: . All battery's need at least 10 charges to unlock their full potential !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40228296&postcount=672
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No no, we're @ 5 now.
DreadPirateDan said:
Pretty sure that wouldn't even work. One of the girls I work with just got an iphone 5 and the battery drains like crazy on that thing. She starts at 3am, and by ~8 she is below 15% and has to charge pretty soon after. Then she has to charge when she gets home, and again when she goes to sleep.
Meanwhile, I am one of the heaviest power users I know of, I use my phone for work (flashlight, camera, calendar, calculator, barcode scanner), frequently check facebook, ragecomics reader app, general web browsing and play store browsing, small downloads eg mp3, apps, flashable .zip tweaks from here, frequently check simpsons tapped out, play some dead trigger, watch about 30 -60 mins of movies, receive a few calls and texts, maybe 10-20 mins of music playback. Out of habit I normally pull my phone out every 10-15 minutes and unlock it, flick around absent mindedlu, then lock it again after not actually opening anything :\ not sure how I picked up that habit.
To top all that off, I have my screen brightness set to 100% with adjust to lighting conditions ticked, I have location services and sattelites on, auto sync on, 4g data always on, wifi on but location based activated, NFC on, and finally, also have better battery stats installed and allways doing it's thing as I am also experiencing some rougue wakelocks I am slowly dealing with (still stumped on what is causing audio_out2 and deleted_wake_lock)
Despite all this, my phone comes off charge around 330am, and doesn't charge till 8pmish when it finally runs out of juice. That is one hell of a solid effort as I have done pretty much nothing to help out my battery, and doing everything to make it struggle.
I have only undervolted slightly, and am using doomkernel on KA04 rom. I am not using stamina mode either. Infact, when I was using it on stock rom, I couldn't see any difference between using it and not using it. I can't really see how it would do much IF you had NO wakelocks (or very little). Besides knocking out LED all it really does it disable background processes, if you have your phone set up right you shouldn't really have any anyway:good:.
This phone leaves my previous galaxy S2 in it's dust for battery life under the same usage in anycase (I used to charge that thing about 3 times a day most days).
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actually on my iPhone 5 I get more like 9 hours of screen time, sometimes 10. Not saying that your friends account is false, but that sure is hell doesn't seem consistent with any battery rundown test I've ever seen.I can go 2 days without charging it roughly, I'm sure the incoming hate and vitriol for my use of an iPhone as a daily driver is about to pour in from the less intelligent Android users, but this is one of the reasons my iPhone is still my daily driver. That and a consistently good camera.
Cheers~
P.S. I have owned many many many Android flagships and am an experienced power user.
Since when did iPhones ship with battery stats?
Or is there an app for that?
Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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RoChinu said:
Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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You took the best example outta everything lmao.
But I'm so happy with this phone's battery life.
RoChinu said:
Batteries need a few charging cycles before doing their job properly. It's like having sex for the first time. The first time you might be disappointing but as you do it more often, you supposedly become better at it. Batteries work the same way.
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Can't believe you just compared batteries on a phone to sex.
My battery life is acceptable. Getting up to 4hours screen time or a little more from 09 - 22. At this time, I then have about 14% more or less. And this is by alot of whatsapp, messaging, maybe a call or two. This is not using LTE. I find it very battery draining so I stick with 3G. Besided i am on WiFi most of the time.
So as long the phone can do a whole day without charging in most normal days for some people that don't travel alot, I ffind the battery acceptable
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HTC One overheating?

Hi, so i got my one yesterday and i am pretty impressed but there is something i noticed and i want to ask, if someone else has noticed it. I played the game real racing 3 for like 10 minutes and it worked flawlessly. but after this 10 minutes it suddenly started to lag. My handset was really really hot at this moment... i also noticed that in 3d mark in the physics test. I had like 45 fps and then they dropped to like 15 after a short period. So is my device damaged or something or is this normal? I have not rooted it or anything, so it has still the stock rom and stock kernel.
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Well first thing I would do is backup all your data. Wouldnt be nice to loose all of that when trying to fix your device. My guess is that your GPU Chip on the SoC is a weakling. I had the same problem on my One X. It had super fast CPU but an under average GPU. To be sure you need to factory reset your device that will remove everything off your one. After you need to install a benchmark app like the same one before so you can see if you have any improvement. I also want you to install Antutu so I can compair it to my results.
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I got 21926 in antutu is that OK?
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ChiefOBrian said:
I got 21926 in antutu is that OK?
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If your phone is running smoothly and you're fine with the experience, then stop worrying about benchmarks. They're useless.
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I got 21926 in antutu is that OK?
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Around 22000 on antutu is normal. Anywhere around the 21k to 25k range is for the HTC One. Mine does 23881-ish on antutu but not every device is the same.
My guess is that the overheating issue is causing the lower FPS. If your in a very hot State your device would run warmer. Something silly like this can cause any device not run at optimal speeds.
Using the HTC one for gaming mostly could make it run at hotter temps so a thing called thermal throttling comes in.
The Snapdragon S600 will lower the CPU and GPU clocks if your device is running too hot. Sadly its hard to avoid it but it stops the One from breaking and cooking your hands.
The next step is to see if your HTC one is running too hot.
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I am getting overheating issue
I have the same issue. After using phone around 10 minutes, aluminium body becomes hot. I don't play games but general browsing, playing music etc. I purchased from Walmart and thought it is just specific to my device only. But just found that it is general issue to everyone. I have already asked Walmart to replace the device. But I guess I should not make a hope that replacement device will not have heat issue.
Not really overheating just a small side effect if the all aluminum build, metal is more prone to temp.
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Was fine. now overheating.
My phone was working fine for the past week, but just went crazy hot yesterday, and seems to be getting warm easily now. It got hot playing Ingress, but I had been playing ingress for hours at a time without the issue, so I'm confused. I can't think that I did anything remarkable to my phone in that time, but it's certainly running hot. The only thing that might impact it is the use of the app Lux to dim the screen better. I haven't had a problem with that on my previous phone, and I'm not sure when I installed it vs. when I started having overheating issues.
Today, I also got the superuser request for "resetnotify" which may be called by HTC internal code. Not sure if that's relevant, but there it is.
Overheats with battery drain
My One overheats occasionally. I don't have to be doing anything and I have to reboot for it to cool down. I think it's done it 3 times now, and I think all these times are since I rooted and flashed the 1.29 international ROM. nothing out of the ordinary installed.
I will try and get some information next time it does it too try and see what is going on....
Install teamseven kernel and undervolt by 50 mv, my phone doesnt heat up any more. Gets a little warm while playing games or browsing which is normal
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What can you tell me about the xperia z

Hi guys. Have gone back quite a few threads in here so apologies if this has already been asked.
I am coming up to the magic upgrade date and am very keen on the xperia z. I have been on xda for nearly 2 years now and know that this community is the dog's and you guys can help me out. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but seeing as you have had the phone for a few months now can anyone give me any comments, likes or dislikes or reviews on the phone? I am asking the same question in the HTC one page as torn between the two, but keen to mix it up with Sony for the next few years. Your help is much appreciated.
Peace out.
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VaderXI said:
Hi guys. Have gone back quite a few threads in here so apologies if this has already been asked.
I am coming up to the magic upgrade date and am very keen on the xperia z. I have been on xda for nearly 2 years now and know that this community is the dog's and you guys can help me out. I know it all comes down to personal preference, but seeing as you have had the phone for a few months now can anyone give me any comments, likes or dislikes or reviews on the phone? I am asking the same question in the HTC one page as torn between the two, but keen to mix it up with Sony for the next few years. Your help is much appreciated.
Peace out.
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first tell us what do you want most out of your phone? battery life? esthetic? what do you do with your phone? movies? text? games alot?
I own the Z and I dont feel its a substantial upgrade from the S3, limiting battery life from a 7000mah battery kinda sucks too.
I assume you are using a HTC Incredible S, according to your signature.
If that's the case then my experience may reflect yours.
Previously i've a SE Xperia Arc S. It was incredibly fast coming from my old motorola milestone, the screen was better, had HD recording etc. However after the ICS came it became sooooooo slow and choppy, i couldn't stand even touching it. Luckily i had an unlocked bootloader, so i could install CM/AOKP. The major bottleneck of the phone was the low RAM. 512 MB onboard, 380 MB usable due to the Exmor sensor. The battery life was poor, so was the quality of the arc (plastic cover breaking, cracks, scratches on the display, chrome parts loosing their color etc.)
Finally, after 2 years i replaced it with an unbranded xperia z. Oh god, where should i begin? The look and feel of the phone are outstanding. The build quality is top notch (it fell off a table 3 times, surviving without a single scratch). The display is incredible, very very crisp, natural colors and good brightness. If you are used to oversatured colors then you might dislike this one. Perfect perfomance in my opinion (coming from a single core 1,4ghz cpu ), rarely any hiccups or slowdowns. Sure the HTC One might have a snapdragon 600, but whats the increase on paper? 15%? You wouldn't even notice the difference in everyday use tbh. The development is also really fast. I think the first working CM10.1 was out before the phone was actually released.
Anyway, i'm in love with this phone, and if i had the chance to exchange it with a different one, i probably wouldn't do it.
I personally have a xperia z love it battery life is good screen excellent as I had a Samsung galaxy note 2 and traded up to the xperia z. I send text make calls listen to music I use the sat nav software very quick phone can't fault it even with stock rom.
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G1_enthusiast said:
first tell us what do you want most out of your phone? battery life? esthetic? what do you do with your phone? movies? text? games alot?
I own the Z and I dont feel its a substantial upgrade from the S3, limiting battery life from a 7000mah battery kinda sucks too.
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Good point! I don't have the time to play games on it and when I do I'm straight on the xbox. The look and build quality of the phone is important to me that is why I have never gone for an xperia in the past and not considering the GSIIII. Camera and video is important as I have 2 kids... for my sins, as is battery life and speed of the phone. This will be my first quad core. Support is also important. My ICS is rooted and flashed so I may do this with the new phone. For all these reasons I'm looking at the Sony.
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wantondamage2012 said:
I personally have a xperia z love it battery life is good screen excellent as I had a Samsung galaxy note 2 and traded up to the xperia z. I send text make calls listen to music I use the sat nav software very quick phone can't fault it even with stock rom.
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Oh yeah listen to loads of music through it so sound is also important.
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Stay away from the xperia z!!!!
this phone is an amazing built piece of ****
ihaxda1 said:
Stay away from the xperia z!!!!
this phone is an amazing built piece of ****
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Really!? Why? Have you got the phone....?
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VaderXI said:
Good point! I don't have the time to play games on it and when I do I'm straight on the xbox. The look and build quality of the phone is important to me that is why I have never gone for an xperia in the past and not considering the GSIIII. Camera and video is important as I have 2 kids... for my sins, as is battery life and speed of the phone. This will be my first quad core. Support is also important. My ICS is rooted and flashed so I may do this with the new phone. For all these reasons I'm looking at the Sony.
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If Esthetic is the most important to you then this phone is it. If you are not a photographer or dont have photographer eyes the video and photo are "good" (low light is bad) battery life- will you be around wifi alot? if not then my typical usage is 13 hours standby and 2.5 hours screen on no wifi. speed is good no lag with NOVA launcher slight lag on xperia launcher if you have alot of widget like me. support? like dev? not alot lol...I think you should go with S4. I honestly only kept this phone because its different then what the rest of the U.S market uses. I miss my S3 a lot though.
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Really!? Why? Have you got the phone....?
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yes i got it its fast and everything but the sony dont know how to make a software
the speaker is a joke
the headphones is not loud
and the camera looks like an 2001 phone
and its 4.1.2 and the bottom bar is too big and u cant change quick widgets
its a boring phone go for the galaxy s4
Well I traded my S4 for the Xperia Z and I am not looking. Back. I mean I do not like that I can't change the battery but that's about it battery life on this device seems far superior to everything I used yet. I also didn't like that the xperia has software buttons and take away a good amount of realestate from the screen but there is hack that makes it possible to get the whole screen back. I am personally using this hack. Now I have really 5 inches of beauty. Anyhow besides that the experia z is a great phone. By the way it wasn't a one on one trade. The S4 I got 550 for and bought the xperia z for 300 so I got a better looking better battery somewhat worse camera and 250 on top for pretty much the same thing plus u still can use the normal mhl plug in and don't have to buy the special Samsung S3 S4 mhl version. I like that. So to sum it up. Besides the non removable battery and the not as good camera I think the xperia z is a even match to the S4 in some stuff even superior to the S4.
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If Esthetic is the most important to you then this phone is it. If you are not a photographer or dont have photographer eyes the video and photo are "good" (low light is bad) battery life- will you be around wifi alot? if not then my typical usage is 13 hours standby and 2.5 hours screen on no wifi. speed is good no lag with NOVA launcher slight lag on xperia launcher if you have alot of widget like me. support? like dev? not alot lol...I think you should go with S4. I honestly only kept this phone because its different then what the rest of the U.S market uses. I miss my S3 a lot though.
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2.5 hours of screen on time without wifi? That's really bad. Are you on 3g? My 3g is on all the time and the worst I got is around 3 and a half hours . Nowadays I got close to 5 hours or more..
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joejoe23 said:
2.5 hours of screen on time without wifi? That's really bad. Are you on 3g? My 3g is on all the time and the worst I got is around 3 and a half hours . Nowadays I got close to 5 hours or more..
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Tmobile USA 3.5G lol they dont have LTE yet but LTE consume more power from what i heard.. i'm fine with HSPA+
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yes i got it its fast and everything but the sony dont know how to make a software
the speaker is a joke
the headphones is not loud
and the camera looks like an 2001 phone
and its 4.1.2 and the bottom bar is too big and u cant change quick widgets
its a boring phone go for the galaxy s4
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Sorry to hear that Bro. I won't be going for an S4 as the wife has an S3 and I flatly don't like it. Horrible plasticy phone. The only other contender, at the moment, is the HTC One.
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The main issue with Samsung phones is that the screen always burns in after a while and that it has when u have a black background those visible black spots on the whole screen they look like black drops and also it has a very bad black pixelation when watching movies with a lot of dark in it. That's just the amolad screen tech. Not that good when it comes to burn in and black.
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Tmobile USA 3.5G lol they dont have LTE yet but LTE consume more power from what i heard.. i'm fine with HSPA+
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Same h+ is what I meant haha..
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dante501 said:
The main issue with Samsung phones is that the screen always burns in after a while and that it has when u have a black background those visible black spots on the whole screen they look like black drops and also it has a very bad black pixelation when watching movies with a lot of dark in it. That's just the amolad screen tech. Not that good when it comes to burn in and black.
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I own the S3 for a year (since it release), this never happen before, are we talking over a 5 years time span? who own a phone for that long? this isnt a TV. The black is very very nice black Samsung did alot of study with this IMO, they know the consumer love saturated picture and thats what they incorporated, for photographer this is a nightmare because we stick to "true color". In the end, they are doing this to make money, I guarantee you they make more money with their AMOLED screen then Sony with their true color TFT screen. Also people complaining aobut the weight of the S3, isnt weight was a big deal for a phone in recent years? the fact that they make the phone plastic, so its as light as possible just doesnt satisfy some people. if you want a device that is not plasticly then you gotta have an aluminum body which create more weight. I dont think Samsung did it to be cheap, just what the masses want. A phone that is bigger than the iphone and yet weight less (or the same) is a win in my book.
Just have a black picture or a black background and u gonna see some black bleeding issues. I had this with all Samsung phones and there r a lot of postings and also videos about those black clipping issues on amoload screens. It is a known issue.
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ihaxda1 said:
Stay away from the xperia z!!!!
this phone is an amazing built piece of ****
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You shouldn't even bother posting. Your as useful as a chocolate teapot.
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G1_enthusiast said:
I own the S3 for a year (since it release), this never happen before, are we talking over a 5 years time span? who own a phone for that long? this isnt a TV. The black is very very nice black Samsung did alot of study with this IMO, they know the consumer love saturated picture and thats what they incorporated, for photographer this is a nightmare because we stick to "true color". In the end, they are doing this to make money, I guarantee you they make more money with their AMOLED screen then Sony with their true color TFT screen. Also people complaining aobut the weight of the S3, isnt weight was a big deal for a phone in recent years? the fact that they make the phone plastic, so its as light as possible just doesnt satisfy some people. if you want a device that is not plasticly then you gotta have an aluminum body which create more weight. I dont think Samsung did it to be cheap, just what the masses want. A phone that is bigger than the iphone and yet weight less (or the same) is a win in my book.
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At the end of the day it's whatever floats your boat. S3/4 doesn't float mine.
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[Q] anyone experiencing overheat on new firmware. 238

Hi all
After installing the new firmware my telephone overheats, it begins to lag in games like Knights of pen and paper. Rayman always have small glitches.
Anyone else having this?
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I'm on XP .227 and having overheating issues while using the camera. During games it's pretty fine.
But when recording for like 2 minutes the camera just shuts down due to overheating? Not really sure if it's the same bug. The front is pretty hot, the back is less hot.
Do you have any troubles while using the camera?
I've recorded 20 minutes straight, have never had overheating.
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ArnoudAR155 said:
I'm on XP .227 and having overheating issues while using the camera. During games it's pretty fine.
But when recording for like 2 minutes the camera just shuts down due to overheating? Not really sure if it's the same bug. The front is pretty hot, the back is less hot.
Do you have any troubles while using the camera?
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I don't have problems so far with the camera, have not yet been recording video, but I will try that out asap.
Another annoying thing is the touchscreen, sometimes it goes crazy and register my fingers way off...maybe software related.
I would rather wait another month or two and get a brilliant phone..
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HellRoot said:
I don't have problems so far with the camera, have not yet been recording video, but I will try that out asap.
Another annoying thing is the touchscreen, sometimes it goes crazy and register my fingers way off...maybe software related.
I would rather wait another month or two and get a brilliant phone..
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oh the touch screen drives me crazy, the Z series didn't have this problem! typing is so difficult on this phone it is a joke, I guess I can hold out for another update until they fix this or I sell this phone
asyyy said:
oh the touch screen drives me crazy, the Z series didn't have this problem! typing is so difficult on this phone it is a joke, I guess I can hold out for another update until they fix this or I sell this phone
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Mine doesn't have this problem, might be the screen and not software.
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asyyy said:
oh the touch screen drives me crazy, the Z series didn't have this problem! typing is so difficult on this phone it is a joke, I guess I can hold out for another update until they fix this or I sell this phone
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Yeah me too.. and i probably won't buy a phone with qualcomm CPU in the future
The SD820 is even worse than SD801
I can't even play hitman go while listening to music, it laags like hell.
This should be the fastest processor on the market...
Mine gets hot, battery lasts like the z3. Probably my last Sony phone also, I have had Sony since the arc.
I am disappointed
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I have recently updated to the. 238 and the camera doesn't heat up much as before. Gets warm, but not hot.
My main issue is stamina mode has been ruined and instead of my regular 54hrs at 100% battery, I now get 27hrs with the. 238.
Battery to me is everything, thats why i was very happy with my Sony Xperia x performance.
But not anymore.
Also i just checked, my batt was at 70% i tried turning off stamina mode to see how much the change would be, ONE HOUR difference with stamina mode on!
ONE!
VERY ANNOYED!
I got my X performance yesterday....
Immediately I updated it to 35.0.A.1.238 firmware... and did a factory reset
after startup, I noticed the phone heating up slowly to a point where it felt uncomfortable to hold in hand...
so it stopped all restoration from my old xperia, turned off the wifi and everything and put in on charging in Stamina mode....
after 2hrs the phone was good ...no over heating & then continued with the rest of the process...
so all is well now...
any ways, as i did a factory rest I have lost all the pre-loaded Music, Video & wallpapers....
can any having those pre-loaded things, please share with me....
would really appreciate it......

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