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4.3 leaked/in testing Galaxy S4

Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362

gsmyth said:
Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362
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Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.

kingzain900 said:
Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Cool, I'm another few months away from a handset upgrade and so it definitely makes these phones an even better proposition, having access to stock android goodness. Was impressed seeing how quickly someone had put a vanilla 4.2.2 ROM together for the HTC One, then seen this and was very surprised.
Its good to see really as it shows that Google and the handset makers are finally getting why people like android so much and that is the option of choice and customisation. It may not be the exact reason for doing so but they must be conscious of it. As the last I/O conference showed, it was very developer orientated

kingzain900 said:
Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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What are the new features?
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IRX120 said:
What are the new features?
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All features are under the hood. This explains it better: http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-leaked-android-43-rom-google-edition-galaxy-s4
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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I switched back to TW ROM for now. I found the camera app of TW to be of better quality and also if I have the S4, might as well use the features included in it.

So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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kj2112 said:
So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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blmvxer said:
Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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kj2112 said:
And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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Hahaha of course, its a new version of android. , also the pics I posted are a fake, just change your version number in build.prop and reboot. Even the easter egg reads the build.prop.
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That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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BlackFire27 said:
That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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Those are from my LGOG.
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My guess is 4.3 is just bug releases and something to keep us occupied before key lime pie
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Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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rcarnes911 said:
Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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Oh yeah, battery life on 4.2.2 is soooooo terrible /sarcasm
I routinely get 8 to 10 hours of screen time depending on how much standby there is.

I never said it was bad i just said i wonder if it will be better, no need for a stupid comment
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Those are from my LGOG.
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It took me a few minutes to figure out what a LGOG is lol
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4.3 Fixed a major problem!

I just got the 4.3 OTA upgrade and it fixed the low volume problem. Yay!!!

nastypup said:
I just got the 4.3 OTA upgrade and it fixed the low volume problem. Yay!!!
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It also enables the fstrim feature by default so there should be no more slow downs.
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I noticed that too.
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It also enables the fstrim feature by default so there should be no more slow downs.
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I'm confused. I thought support for trim commands has been in since 4.2 or even earlier. I'm positive that the file systems were mounted with the -discard option before this most recent update. My understanding is that this causes trim commands to be sent to the flash whenever files are deleted. The tradeoff is that this involves a near constant but consistent performance hit, but keeps write amplification from getting out of hand. Is my understanding wrong? If so, how? If not, what has actually changed in 4.3?
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I checked the mount options for /data and /cache and I no longer see -discard. Did 4.3 remove the -discard option from mount in favor of running trim opportunistically when the device is idle?
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I'm confused. I thought support for trim commands has been in since 4.2 or even earlier. I'm positive that the file systems were mounted with the -discard option before this most recent update. My understanding is that this causes trim commands to be sent to the flash whenever files are deleted. The tradeoff is that this involves a near constant but consistent performance hit, but keeps write amplification from getting out of hand. Is my understanding wrong? If so, how? If not, what has actually changed in 4.3?
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I checked the mount options for /data and /cache and I no longer see -discard. Did 4.3 remove the -discard option from mount in favor of running trim opportunistically when the device is idle?
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All I know is fstrim was introduced in 4.2 but wasn't enabled by default. It now is in 4.3.
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I noticed that too.
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Thing is still sluggish when updating apps. Whats with that? It's a quad core right? Isn't multi core optimized for handling multiple tasks? My Nexus 4 doesn't skip a beat when it's updating
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Why so many 4.3 threads?
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Cor-master said:
Thing is still sluggish when updating apps. Whats with that? It's a quad core right? Isn't multi core optimized for handling multiple tasks? My Nexus 4 doesn't skip a beat when it's updating
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N7 has a companion core. It only switches to the quad core when needed. I think it thinks it doesn't need to.
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I think I know the answer, I was a bit tipsy when I posted that, trying to get my tablet back to 4.3 with a vodka buzz, so Nevermind lol. Lesson learned, don't drink and flash
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Cor-master said:
I think I know the answer, I was a bit tipsy when I posted that, trying to get my tablet back to 4.3 with a vodka buzz, so Nevermind lol. Lesson learned, don't drink and flash
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somehow i think that is a lesson for life in general.

I don't feel that 4.3 helped the audio on my N7 whatsoever. Some Youtube videos for me even at max volume are hard to hear with the sink running gently a few feet away.

Ok, please forgive me but if it's not enabled then how did one go about and enables this then.....
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All I know is fstrim was introduced in 4.2 but wasn't enabled by default. It now is in 4.3.
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Cor-master said:
Thing is still sluggish when updating apps. Whats with that? It's a quad core right? Isn't multi core optimized for handling multiple tasks? My Nexus 4 doesn't skip a beat when it's updating
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Most likely the I/O try using ROW
As for the audio it seems the exact same as before, was an audio fix even mentioned by Google?

rastlin said:
Ok, please forgive me but if it's not enabled then how did one go about and enables this then.....
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You don't. You run a script while rooted on anything below 4.3,and 4.3and above already have it enabled.
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thomase00 said:
I'm confused. I thought support for trim commands has been in since 4.2 or even earlier. I'm positive that the file systems were mounted with the -discard option before this most recent update. My understanding is that this causes trim commands to be sent to the flash whenever files are deleted. The tradeoff is that this involves a near constant but consistent performance hit, but keeps write amplification from getting out of hand. Is my understanding wrong? If so, how? If not, what has actually changed in 4.3?
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I checked the mount options for /data and /cache and I no longer see -discard. Did 4.3 remove the -discard option from mount in favor of running trim opportunistically when the device is idle?
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This is actually the correct answer.

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This is actually the correct answer.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384493
It would have been nice if Anandtech articulated this to begin with.

Didn't fix volume problem on mine
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I just got the 4.3 OTA upgrade and it fixed the low volume problem. Yay!!!
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Is there anything you need to enable to see the increased volume? Mine has no change at all.

It actually made mine worse. Now the sound comes out all grainy and low.
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natoe33 said:
It actually made mine worse. Now the sound comes out all grainy and low.
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It is louder for me, but I also never used any previous stock ROM, I went straight to custom. I could barely hear it without headphones, until the update.
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TheLastSidekick said:
It also enables the fstrim feature by default so there should be no more slow downs.
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Well as I was reading in other threads in this forum and also being told there are no slow downs and its any app I have installed. So this fstrim is for something else

Kitkat for nexus one?

Android 4.4 clearly states that it only needs 512mb of ram to run. With that in mind, is it possible to build a kitkat ROM for the nexus one?
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As cm has said. It is not just ram. It is storage and GPU power too
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From what CM said, I concluded that there won't be new CM builds for abandoned devices. I assume that a 4.4 rom on our N1s wouldn't perform miraculously faster than the current 4.2/4.3 roms
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Texasice already has kitkat booting
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tommypacker said:
Texasice already has kitkat booting
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He is releasing soon? I'd love to see dev builds!

tommypacker said:
Texasice already has kitkat booting
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He also said its no way near being useful
Cause WiFi, Bluetooth, data.....etc
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KitKat f*cked up abandoned devices because of that transparent status bar, some GPUs (considering N1's) may not be able to run it properly just because of that

mihovil13 said:
KitKat f*cked up abandoned devices because of that transparent status bar, some GPUs (considering N1's) may not be able to run it properly just because of that
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It's possible to disable that in framework I believe.

MameTozhio said:
It's possible to disable that in framework I believe.
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I read on GSMArena that the Kitkat releases for Nexus 4/7 (1st gen) don't include the transparent bar either.
Btw shouldn't that thread be moved to the Q&A section?

I believe in u... come on Devs nothing is impossible Nexus One never dies
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No.29 said:
I believe in u... come on Devs nothing is impossible Nexus One never dies
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No it's very slow as CM is not supported KitKAT

We'll see... I hope it for all of us
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i have a booting from xperia V, so it so slow

Would love to see Kitkat on my Nexus One !

elartista3390 said:
i have a booting from xperia V, so it so slow
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is this the END?

No.29 said:
is this the END?
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i dont know sir

T-Mobile KitKat 4.4 , please come in

(If you have updated to kitkat 4.4 only)
so, could you guys please share your thought how and what do you feel after update your moto x to kitkat 4.4 into your moto x ?
do you feel happy and is there any bug or any default feature from your moto x not working properly such as active display, battery drain faster ? or anything else ? any detail information would be highly appreciate guys. Thx.

I just got it but I don't see why you would not upgrade. It actually feels slightly smoother

sleepyguy007 said:
I just got it but I don't see why you would not upgrade. It actually feels slightly smoother
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Have you played around with the 4.4 that much ?
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It's very smooth. I am pleased although some apps aren't working with 4.4 yet. Tap and Pay is pretty awesome. New icons in the status bar are meh, I will root when in becomes available and use exposed and fix it.
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Rhiannon224 said:
It's very smooth. I am pleased although some apps aren't working with 4.4 yet. Tap and Pay is pretty awesome. New icons in the status bar are meh, I will root when in becomes available and use exposed and fix it.
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Screen shot of the new icons? I HATE the space between the wifi and signal icons. Is that still there?

aooga said:
Screen shot of the new icons? I HATE the space between the wifi and signal icons. Is that still there?
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Thanks. Guess I'll stay on 4.2 till xposed works. Also, did you make everything that big, or is that the default?

Another screenshot
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aooga said:
Thanks. Guess I'll stay on 4.2 till xposed works. Also, did you make everything that big, or is that the default?
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I made it that way, lol.
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Another screenshot
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I don't understand why the battery indicator isn't aligned with the rest of the icons. Why does moto feel that they need to changed the stock 4.4 icons?
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I made it that way, lol.
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okay good. Looks HUGE.

aooga said:
I don't understand why the battery indicator isn't aligned with the rest of the icons. Why does moto feel that they need to changed the stock 4.4 icons?
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okay good. Looks HUGE.
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Motorola hasn't changed the look of any icon. It's how they look in 4.4 even on the nexus devices.

samarth1 said:
Motorola hasn't changed the look of any icon. It's how they look in 4.4 even on the nexus devices.
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Uhhh. You're wrong on that one. They changed the battery icon, the signal icons, and the data icons. There's even a thread in the themes and apps section that reverts the icons back to the normal ones

So overall do you guys love the ui n icon from 4.4 or not ?
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banboy said:
So overall do you guys love the ui n icon from 4.4 or not ?
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Really? Everything is fine just update dude.
Not sure how can you not upgrade when an update is available and waiting for you. Most people here in xda will be waiting to update and you are opposite. May be you just get some Samsung or other device which never gets updated
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aooga said:
I don't understand why the battery indicator isn't aligned with the rest of the icons. Why does moto feel that they need to changed the stock 4.4 icons?
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Agree completely. Absolutely hate what Motorola does to the status bar. Or maybe it's the carriers fault, but either way I hate it.
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phositadc said:
Agree completely. Absolutely hate what Motorola does to the status bar. Or maybe it's the carriers fault, but either way I hate it.
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T Mobile version is free of carrier bloat of any kind so I don't think it's carrier related.
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I have no idea what kind of status bar you guys talking about . can you post the picture what it look like
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so how you guys doing with your tmobile kitkat 4.4 update ? feeling good and much improvement ? less lag, good battery, camera get more better ?

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Agree completely. Absolutely hate what Motorola does to the status bar. Or maybe it's the carriers fault, but either way I hate it.
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do you have any sample pic with the one you've just posted ?

Am sooo wishing US Cellular is next for this update... Seems like its draaaaggging. Am being patient though. Though my BL is unlocked.
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What's up guys

Just came from a note 3 . I had a nexus 4 before that . The nexus 5 is the smoothest phone I've ever used . it's as smooth as windows phones . I'm just so happy I have it . Google really did a great job . the only thing I really miss about my note is the camera .
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And then?

lesonal said:
Just came from a note 3 . I had a nexus 4 before that . The nexus 5 is the smoothest phone I've ever used . it's as smooth as windows phones . I'm just so happy I have it . Google really did a great job . the only thing I really miss about my note is the camera .
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Yes in terms of smoothness the nexus 5 is the best when it comes to android phone. My only downside with this phone is the speaker, its volume is just too low.
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I must be the only one that likes the camera. Sure things can always be better, but it's way better than the N4 i was used to before. Only complaint is the slow shutter speed. My pics come out great. /Shrug

barondebxl said:
Yes in terms of smoothness the nexus 5 is the best when it comes to android phone. My only downside with this phone is the speaker, its volume is just too low.
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Speaker volume can be fixed pretty easy.
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I would say the speaker is the downside, the camera is not a big deal for me.
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frigidazzi said:
I must be the only one that likes the camera. Sure things can always be better, but it's way better than the N4 i was used to before. Only complaint is the slow shutter speed. My pics come out great. /Shrug
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I think the camera is great too. The Google camera app just needs improved.

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Speaker volume can be fixed pretty easy.
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True,I actually just flashed a mod and it's all good now!
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First full day with mine after messing with it for 6 hours last night. After modding the hell out of it last night I can say I'm really happy with it, I might change my DPI up a little more, at 320 and the icon's are a little too small. Overall though one of the better pieces of hardware I've seen in a while, love the soft touch back.

lesonal said:
Just came from a note 3 . I had a nexus 4 before that . The nexus 5 is the smoothest phone I've ever used . it's as smooth as windows phones . I'm just so happy I have it . Google really did a great job . the only thing I really miss about my note is the camera .
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Don't forget to convert to ART! It will change your life.

wideasleep1 said:
Don't forget to convert to ART! It will change your life.
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How did it change your life?

caribouxda said:
How did it change your life?
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He couldn't use any apps anymore. I keed, I keed.
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caribouxda said:
How did it change your life?
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Run ART for yourself.
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wideasleep1 said:
Run ART for yourself.
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I did but life is still the same
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He couldn't use any apps anymore. I keed, I keed.
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Lol

caribouxda said:
I did but life is still the same
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Fine...be a Debbie downer! I got rich and instantly handsome just by running ART. Oh and my phone is blazing fast, too.
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wideasleep1 said:
Fine...be a Debbie downer! I got rich and instantly handsome just by running ART. Oh and my phone is blazing fast, too.
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Omg that is so amazing man!! Btw, got any statistical data to support your statement or just placebo? Wondering

caribouxda said:
Omg that is so amazing man!! Btw, got any statistical data to support your statement or just placebo? Wondering
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I let the phone dweebs mumble about the stats..much too busy with my hot hookers and blow. ART thread has dalvik vs. ART stats if you're bored.
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