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I have T-Mobile and am in US.... I really am interested in the Galaxy note and am wondering if it is compatible with T-Mobile's 3G/"4G"/HSPA+ network? I don't know what these frequency bands mean for compatibility ...
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
cadavar said:
It will only work on EDGE speeds. It doesn't have the AWS frequency (1700, 2100) required for their 3G/4G network.
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That is exactly the response I was looking for in terms of technicality goes.
Thank you very much!
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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Hello all,
This is interesting. Is there anyways to confirm that Indian version will have "Penta" band?
I read that Note will launch in India on 3nd November. May be will have to wait to find out.
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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i can't find anything to suggest any carrier in India uses the 1700/2100 bands needed for T-Mo (US) 3G to work anyway. so it must be about something else.
crazy talk said:
interestingly, many sites point to the India specific version of the phone being a "penta band" UMTS phone. and as far as i know penta band means T-Mo AWS support no?
source.
http://www.knowledgebase-script.com/demo/article-1079.html
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There are many bands for UTMS, and t-mobile USA is the only one that uses 1700.
Odds are, even if it is pentaband, it still won't support 1700. It might, but it's unlikely.
- Frank
Dragooon123 said:
I'm having doubts about that article, SGSII was 34k when it was released in India. Galaxy Note has to top that.
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what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
I've been researching a bit and it seems that the files are about the same on these phones, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. That being said, I am in no way an expert, but I hope someone with more knowledge will chime in on this and give us a concrete answer.
getmouse said:
what about the modem.bin from the galaxy s2 4g on the tmobile phone
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phone frequency band is hardware specific. if the crystal is not tuned for the frequency, theres nothing you can do to make the phone to accept it
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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I think that for now is the best idea
I still want this and thinking hard about pulling the trigger and just buying. Has anybody bought this on tmobiles network yet.
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You will only get Edge speeds.
There is no need to confirm anything.
Hardware IS HARDWARE.
I would not consider getting T-Mobile's version of this for the sole fact that they'll mess it up by putting a pair of 1.8 ghz Qualcomm chip in there to support their 42mbps network.
It will be garbage once that happens.
At this point, you either accept it as being Edge only on T-Mobile's network, or you don't get it altogether.
Yeah I know it only works on edge but if a million iphone users are using it then it might be usable but I kinda want a real world test of the Internet and not just specs since that's the only thing that's holding me back
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torres351 said:
I guess I'll have to wait on the Galaxy Nexus then. Thanks for dropping that bit of knowledge on us.
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You could ditch T-Mob, or not worth it? I would leave my carrier for the Note.
I made an inquiry about the Note coming to T mobile directly to someone I know at Samsung. He did get back to me and said they have figured a way around the present problem with the present chip configuration and will come out with a version that will be 1700/2100 compatible. BUT, not soon (2012) and probably will be the next version of this type of 5" + smart phone ....... So it is edge only on TMO for now..............
By the time they actually get to bring something like that out the quad core chips will be out and other makers might bring out something similar hopefully.
Howdy all?
Currently I am using Dell Streak which actually was launched for AT&T. So I was only getting TMo's EDGE speed on my Streak. Which for me was not a big deal because I would only have to deal with slow speed while I am either away from home or work.
Some might find it silly, but what I did was, removed my data portion which was with the phone and actually got TMo's 4g hotspot. And I carried both, my Streak and hotspot always with me. Which for me works out alright.
i would like to use my d4 on att but i always get the no signal bar. i am running olegfusion's stock gsm ICS rom on safesystem.
i dont know whats wrong with it. i have the settings set to gsm in the menu but i have also tried the global settings but none of them work. i called att earlier, thinking it was a problem on their end but they said everything should be working fine. ive also tried my friends att microsim card but still no service. any ideas?
as it was pointed in several threads, droid 4 doesn't work with gsm carriers of USA. My ROM is oriented to Abroad GSM
olegfusion said:
as it was pointed in several threads, droid 4 doesn't work with gsm carriers of USA. My ROM is oriented to Abroad GSM
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i thought someone got it to work on T-mobile
dewhashish said:
i thought someone got it to work on T-mobile
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As far as i know - not yet.
dewhashish said:
i thought someone got it to work on T-mobile
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I got it to work on T-Mobile UK, apologies if this was misleading.
Lum_UK said:
I got it to work on T-Mobile UK, apologies if this was misleading.
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There were some old articles, working on T-mobile (US) EDGE.
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-droid-4-razr-and-bionic-modded-for-att-and-t-mobile-20120425/
Not sure if this deserves to be here but I have rang a few different google people and they have confirmed the unlocked version does support 42mbps (DC-HSPA) if your carrier has it . Thought I'd let people know.
ste1164 said:
Not sure if this deserves to be here but I have rang a few different google people and they have confirmed the unlocked version does support 42mbps (DC-HSPA) if your carrier has it . Thought I'd let people know.
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Posted on the Google Play Store now:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
It was just a typo that now has been fixed
Oh thank you I wasn't aware of this may as well delete this thread now
ste1164 said:
Not sure if this deserves to be here but I have rang a few different google people and they have confirmed the unlocked version does support 42mbps (DC-HSPA) if your carrier has it . Thought I'd let people know.
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what the .... you're right. I could have sworn the Play Store said "HSPA+ 21" in the tech specs earlier today, but now it says "HSPA+ 42". Maybe I'm just going nuts. Not the first time
nahun said:
what the .... you're right. I could have sworn the Play Store said "HSPA+ 21" in the tech specs earlier today, but now it says "HSPA+ 42". Maybe I'm just going nuts. Not the first time
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The +21 was an error, they recently corrected the specs listing to +42
ste1164 said:
Oh thank you I wasn’t aware of this may as well delete this thread now
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Might wanna keep it open just a little bit longer … There seems to be a lot of confusion about it here in some threads..
Yep they must have fixed it. It showed 21mbps earlier today.
VictorNYC said:
Might wanna keep it open just a little bit longer … There seems to be a lot of confusion about it here in some threads..
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Sounds like a good plan, I thought T-Mobiles version had it aha. Not the unlocked one.
ste1164 said:
Sounds like a good plan, I thought T-Mobiles version had it aha. Not the unlocked one.
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T-Mobile version is also unlocked.
ctfrommn said:
T-Mobile version is also unlocked.
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Oh okay is it just subsidised?
ctfrommn said:
T-Mobile version is also unlocked.
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Very true but remember in order to get the T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling app to work it would need a different radio/kernel so updates wouldn’t get pushed out as fast as on other devices …
Unless T-Mobile its not planning on supporting it…
T-Mobile is the only carrier with 42mbps+, right?
AT&T is only 21mbps+?
zewone said:
T-Mobile is the only carrier with 42mbps+, right?
AT&T is only 21mbps+?
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Yes, you are right
zewone said:
T-Mobile is the only carrier with 42mbps+, right?
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In the US, yes. European carriers have it as well.
correct me if i'm wrong, but buying the unlocked version for use on AT&T would not affect anything but the max speeds, right?
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In the US, yes. European carriers have it as well.
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Three UK have started rolling it out
OK, guys, stop calling it "unlocked version". There is no "locked" version. The version of the phone sold by T-Mobile is literally the exact same version that is sold on the Google Play store, no distinction whatsoever. There will be no custom modem or wifi calling apps on their version.
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OK, guys, stop calling it "unlocked version".
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Why? It is unlocked. It is a very important distinction considering it is a pentaband phone. There have been locked GSM Nexus devices in the past btw.
Canadian Carriers
Can we expect HSPA+42 on Rogers in Canada or will we only get 21. I know Telus and Bell can both do HSPA+42. If not, I may have to switch to Telus or Bell...
For those in Canada, as far as I know Bell, Telus and Sasktel have some 42 mbps DC-HSPA coverage while Rogers, Wind and Mobilicity only have 21 mbps.
Here is Bell's coverage map. The light blue areas have 21 mbps while the darker areas have 42 mbps. Telus' coverage map should be indentical since they share the network.
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Coverage_map
There is currently one on eBay for a very reasonable price and the seller is stating that it will work on AT&T. Is that true? If so, will I receive LTE? Thanks!
It won't get LTE
SupaSwag said:
It won't get LTE
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Damn. I guess I'm going to pass, then.
SupaSwag said:
It won't get LTE
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But will it run on GSM 3G ?
Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
Ogawa said:
Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
cxhugh said:
I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
wdkingery said:
I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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Thanks for the reference thread. I've been searching, but didn't come across that one. I've downloaded the app and unfortunately, it looks like 17 is my primary band at my office. I'll keep it up and will monitor across the city. Very helpful!
I did find the unlocker's thread and am watching there as well. Let me know how it goes for you.
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
wdkingery said:
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Eek!
wdkingery said:
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
Ogawa said:
Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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I think that's gotta be a mistake. According to TMO's site, it doesn't have LTE 17 and they're standard frequencies.
But, the question for me will be how strong LTE4 is. It might be enough. I'm trying to figure out how to disable 17 on my OPO for testing...
band 17, at&t!
intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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band 17, at&t!
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Wait, what?
Ogawa said:
Wait, what?
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intifadamericana said:
I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?
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intifadamericana said:
I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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That all took place in this thread.
wdkingery said:
That all took place in this thread.
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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I posted at him as well, but didn't think about a screenshot. Good idea.