[Q] Does touchless control work without Internet access? - Moto X Q&A

The subject pretty much says it all. I know that Google Now won't work on my Nexus 7 offline (even with downloading the offline speech recognition). Can you do even the basic stuff (like make a call) via touchless control without Internet access?
EDIT: Arrgh! I meant to post this in questions. Could a mod please move it?

i put mine in airplane mode. okay google now woke up the phone but telling it to open an app said i was in airplane mode.

the only command that works without data is "find my phone" as far as i know...

jhnl33 said:
the only command that works without data is "find my phone" as far as i know...
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"Call" works without data. I think text does too, but I never tried it.

ryude said:
"Call" works without data. I think text does too, but I never tried it.
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It's a bit more complicated. On my Moto, when I have internet, it uses Google Search App to search contacts and place calls. When I disable wifi and mobile data, call command still works, but uses some internal app (which, in my opinion, is better than G. Search in contact name recognition, but nvm...)
But after few hours without connection, call command also stops working and you only get "Data issues error".

daemontus said:
It's a bit more complicated. On my Moto, when I have internet, it uses Google Search App to search contacts and place calls. When I disable wifi and mobile data, call command still works, but uses some internal app (which, in my opinion, is better than G. Search in contact name recognition, but nvm...)
But after few hours without connection, call command also stops working and you only get "Data issues error".
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there are two things recognizing voice stuff. Moto and google. if moto can't figure out what you said, it sends it to google (you can't tell any of thise is going on just looking at the phone). Moto describes all of this on their website somewehere. This is also why when you do certain commands, sometimes different windows show up. If moto recognized it, they launch their stuff to do the command, if it doesn't, then google tries to recognize it and then does what it does with that comamnd.

i think you can activate the touchless control, but won't get result of your search as not internet access.

Related

App needed!!! task manager

Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
mastercut said:
Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
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You mean you want to turn off the radio?
Simple method is to go to Settings -> Wireless controls -> Airplane mode. NOTE: This turns off all radios, including WiFi.
If you want a icon to do this, go to the Market and download AnyCut and make a shortcut to Airplane mode.
no not turn off the radio , just close all open connection. cuz i can't see if there's some connection open !!!!!!
A little more description on your dilema would be apreciated.
Who charged you 55 euros?
Are you talking about data transmissions?
If your phone is on and you have service with some provider AND haven't installed any apps that require streaming data, you should not have any "open connections" as you say.
mastercut said:
no not turn off the radio , just close all open connection. cuz i can't see if there's some connection open !!!!!!
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anycut to 'phone info' might help.
'service viewer' in marketplace, but without root cant kill ;{
mastercut said:
Is there any application to kills all open app on the phone"aka task manager"
Is there a possibility to colse with one click all 2g-3g connection.
I received the phone yesteday and i was charged of 55 euros ....
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No need for a task manager as the device closes programs on its own.
To disable all data connections use anycut to phone info (like said above) and then menu -> more and you can disable data connection for just that time or disable it on boot to disable forever.
If you were charged 55 euros for using data then you need to get a different phone as this phone is meant for an always on connection so it is connected 24/7
Well I have the same issue. There are no affordable dataplan in the country I live in so letting any application use as much network as it feels like is not an option.
Sadly the phone does not have a way to control who's allowed to use the radio/network or anything for that matter past the installation time. So if pong3d has been installed with full network access you're screwed it can wake up at any time and start streaming whatever it wants from and to your phone. It can even clog your bandwidth and make your browsing suck.
I understand the whole fully connected device thing, but I still think this is a major flaw as users end-up with limited control over what application is doing what. There should be a way to disable data connection, like disabling wifi.
And ultimately there should be a way to manage the permission of the various app. I want to run pong3d but there is no way I'm giving it Contact Access and SMS access and "service that cost you money". Or I want a fair warning "accept/deny" whenever the application tries...
It also happens that people travel (like me) to other countries. And when traveling I use local pre-paid SIM card to avoid roaming fees. I don't need gtalk and MarioSimulator (yeah it does check for update when you launch it) to burn through my credit just because they think they can.
Since we had networking on phone they have been asking you if you wanted to allow the application to connect "Always/Never/Just this time". If Android expect to be used on other devices (so other providers, other countries, other dataplan) that feature will be needed. And the all or nothing attitude towards permissions when installing an app must be changed.
In the mean time, I suggest the original poster do what I do.. Delete all your APN settings and re-add them when needed. In my case just changing one letter in the APN seems to be enough.
my 2p.
mrboyd said:
Well I have the same issue. There are no affordable dataplan in the country I live in so letting any application use as much network as it feels like is not an option.
Sadly the phone does not have a way to control who's allowed to use the radio/network or anything for that matter past the installation time. So if pong3d has been installed with full network access you're screwed it can wake up at any time and start streaming whatever it wants from and to your phone. It can even clog your bandwidth and make your browsing suck.
I understand the whole fully connected device thing, but I still think this is a major flaw as users end-up with limited control over what application is doing what. There should be a way to disable data connection, like disabling wifi.
And ultimately there should be a way to manage the permission of the various app. I want to run pong3d but there is no way I'm giving it Contact Access and SMS access and "service that cost you money". Or I want a fair warning "accept/deny" whenever the application tries...
It also happens that people travel (like me) to other countries. And when traveling I use local pre-paid SIM card to avoid roaming fees. I don't need gtalk and MarioSimulator (yeah it does check for update when you launch it) to burn through my credit just because they think they can.
Since we had networking on phone they have been asking you if you wanted to allow the application to connect "Always/Never/Just this time". If Android expect to be used on other devices (so other providers, other countries, other dataplan) that feature will be needed. And the all or nothing attitude towards permissions when installing an app must be changed.
In the mean time, I suggest the original poster do what I do.. Delete all your APN settings and re-add them when needed. In my case just changing one letter in the APN seems to be enough.
my 2p.
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I completely understand where you are coming from and I think once the OS comes out of beta it will be a lot better. In the meantime I think it is easier to do the method I did above as it just turns off the data connection and doesn't change any other settings. And you can turn it on or off on the fly.
neoobs said:
I completely understand where you are coming from and I think once the OS comes out of beta it will be a lot better. In the meantime I think it is easier to do the method I did above as it just turns off the data connection and doesn't change any other settings. And you can turn it on or off on the fly.
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Don't mean to derail the converstaion but... Google, out of BETA? ROFLOL!!!
That'll be the end of life as we know it!
Anyways... going back to the subject. Your trick is neat and I don't need it (T-mobile customer with unlimited data) but still usefull.
@ mrboyd:
As neoobs stated, you'll have to do that workaround untill Google does add such a feature, but unless you give enough stink (complain) about it, they won't listen.
You could go here to developers and see if anyone is doing something about it and "ask" for such a "feature"
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers
Also, where are you located? Who's your service provider? What data plans do they have there, or don't?
On the same topic... if someone notices they have no data connection and want to enable it follow the same directions. I did this the other night when tmobiles towers were down. It helped me get connected again.
Does this thing works? I have tried playing with it a little bit and it didn't seem to do much. I'll give it another shot.
mrboyd said:
Does this thing works? I have tried playing with it a little bit and it didn't seem to do much. I'll give it another shot.
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what 'thing' ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Think Tank] Wifi bonded to cell connection

With the release of the newest Skype app that supports wifi calling only, is there a way to bond the wifi connection to the cellular connection to allow for calls over 3g?
I only ask because the Skype app is pretty much useless without 3g. Might as well get on a laptop or something.
If some way an app can be written that the apps are for the iPhone then it would work. Ive been using an app called My3G and it does what the OP is asking. It basically tricks the app into thinking its on WIFI but uses the existing internet connection which is 3G.
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If some way an app can be written that the apps are for the iPhone then it would work. Ive been using an app called My3G and it does what the OP is asking. It basically tricks the app into thinking its on WIFI but uses the existing internet connection which is 3G.
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That would do exactly what I would like. Could easily circumvent the need to be on wifi for Skype.
In the iPhone app, does it do this systemwide or is it application specific?
gehzumteufel said:
That would do exactly what I would like. Could easily circumvent the need to be on wifi for Skype.
In the iPhone app, does it do this systemwide or is it application specific?
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app specific
scrizz said:
app specific
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**** man, we need this ****. lol
Well first we need a version of Skype that lets you log in. (It doesn't work on Galaxy S devices)
tpancoast said:
Well first we need a version of Skype that lets you log in. (It doesn't work on Galaxy S devices)
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I was going to say, but you beat me to it... I been waiting since mid 2009 for this damn app, first on AT&T and now on my TMO Vibrant. Getting very sick of the wait, in fact this is getting down right evil of them....
tpancoast said:
Well first we need a version of Skype that lets you log in. (It doesn't work on Galaxy S devices)
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Yeah, sadly, the ETA is when Froyo drops.
The only skype app. Other then the skype light. Doesnt allow calls only chat.
The normal skype is verizon only. What it does is call a white-listed verizon number to allow data to pass trough it for free.
There is no way up until now. Even fring is now cut off skype.
Just wait.
nimbuzz works it has skype and does calls
might just be me, but i can never get nimbuzz to work for skype calls except on Wi-Fi. the call quality is simply too ****ty otherwise. Call connects but the lag, delay, and distortion makes it unusable.
One Solution
Tether and Skype with your laptop / netbook.
I know, I know... defeats the point of the thread...
but this IS a workaround
Why not just use google voice since it integrates so well with the phone?
People keep saying to use Google Voice, but my Google Voice has absolutely no option to use the data connection to make calls. Am I missing something? All Google Voice does for me is call me from a Google owned number and connect the call... this still uses up minutes. What's the point of using Google Voice to avoid soaking up your plan minutes? Is there some way to make SIP calls with GV that I'm missing?
NWolf said:
People keep saying to use Google Voice, but my Google Voice has absolutely no option to use the data connection to make calls. Am I missing something? All Google Voice does for me is call me from a Google owned number and connect the call... this still uses up minutes. What's the point of using Google Voice to avoid soaking up your plan minutes? Is there some way to make SIP calls with GV that I'm missing?
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Nope. GV is NOT VOIP and it uses a standard voice call, so yes, minutes get used. I don't get why people keep suggesting it in these threads either. The only SIP I know of for Android is SIPDroid, I played with it, but I don't use enough minutes to care about VOIP on my cell. If I were prepaid or something, I would care more.
To hack Skype to bypass the wifi requirement, you will likely need to use a AOSP android build. I suspect they are using the Android APIs that include a method to see if WiFi is connected. You could change the source for that method to tell apps that WiFi is connected when it's not, I suspect you would want to check the app IDs or something to only do it for some of them though.
Another option is to try disabling the check in the app itself, but that involves decompiling or bytecode modification and gets ugly fast. Probably easier to grab the app from a foreign phone that's not restricted to WiFi.

[Q] Assist/Car Mode doesn't seem to do anything

I have a Verizon Moto X and generally love the phone. There is one aggravation that I haven't been able to figure out, and looking within this forum or across the Internet hasn't helped. Basically, Assist won't read incoming texts or the CallerID for incoming calls. Doesn't matter if I'm connected to bluetooth or not.
Likewise, when I put my phone in the "official" Griffin car dock, I get the "driving mode" symbol in the notification bar and the phone shows me a dreamscape. I don't get any "driving mode" screen, or see any useful function.
Am I missing something here? Is there some actual functionality associated with driving mode? And is there some trick to getting Assist to actually read out what it's supposed to read out?
For me (AT&T Moto X), Moto Assist works great. I only have sleeping mode and driving mode enabled. Driving mode appears to be based on the location sensors. Assuming you have the location settings enabled (no tin foil hat here), the device seems to go to driving mode whenever it detects you traveling fast enough to be in a car. Walking / Jogging do not trigger it.
Whenever I am driving, the Moto X is connected to my car's Bluetooth system, and when I receive a text message, it says: "<contact> sent you a message. Say "listen" to listen to the message." You say "listen" and it says "<contact> said <message>."
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For me (AT&T Moto X), Moto Assist works great. I only have sleeping mode and driving mode enabled. Driving mode appears to be based on the location sensors. Assuming you have the location settings enabled (no tin foil hat here), the device seems to go to driving mode whenever it detects you traveling fast enough to be in a car. Walking / Jogging do not trigger it.
Whenever I am driving, the Moto X is connected to my car's Bluetooth system, and when I receive a text message, it says: "<contact> sent you a message. Say "listen" to listen to the message." You say "listen" and it says "<contact> said <message>."
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Not on mine. It resolutely refuses to read anything out loud using Assist. Doesn't seem to matter if it's connected to bluetooth or not.
Mine doesn't work, I just disabled it.
Internet connection?
I would't be suprised if this relied highly on assisted GPS which requires internet connection from time to time. Do you have mobile data enabled?
Also Google Geofences API usually does not work without internet connection, and the functionality there is very similar.
FYI: Mine doesn't seem to work either, but I don't have data plan, so can't test it
jldeitch said:
Not on mine. It resolutely refuses to read anything out loud using Assist. Doesn't seem to matter if it's connected to bluetooth or not.
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Do you have location services enabled? Are you on the latest firmware from Verizon? You should be on "139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US" (Source)
ShanMan14 said:
Mine doesn't work, I just disabled it.
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Verizon? Same as jldeitch?
Location services are up and working. Latest firmware confirmed. But no talking texts. Sigh.
I've had the Moto X for six days now, and I was disappointed that the first time I turned on Moto Assist while driving it didn't read an incoming text to me.
However, I think that it comes down to the sensors and whether or not it believes that you're driving. In that first time that I tried it, I was driving relatively slowly through a residential area with lots of stop signs. I don't think that the Moto X actually determined that I was driving. The second time I tried it, I was driving on a highway; when I had my passenger send a text to me, it worked like a charm.
Last night I was in stop and go traffic during rush hour on that same highway and I received a number of texts that were not read to me because the Moto X didn't detect that I was driving.
It would be nice to have an "I'm driving; read all texts to me regardless of speed" mode, but it doesn't look like you get that on the phone (though perhaps you might with a car dock).
Does it only work with contacts?

[Q] touchless control with data off

hi guys! I'm thinking of buying a moto x, but during the day, often several times I turn off the data connection to save some battery... so I was wondering ... would I be able to use touchless control without data? obviously does not mean the google searchs or the weather ... but for example, "what's app?" or "call"..
Yeah, some of the actions you can do without having a internet connection, like call, what's up?, check voicemail... but I don't know exactly which ones doesn't need a connection
hlaraujo said:
Yeah, some of the actions you can do without having a internet connection, like call, what's up?, check voicemail... but I don't know exactly which ones doesn't need a connection
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I see... I noticed that some commands are followed by a toast notification "opening google search" maybe are those that require a data connection?! instead "what's app" or "call" start immediately, without opening google search

Google assistant stops working also Google voice

Any body having this problem
winco209 said:
Any body having this problem
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Could you be more specific please? Does Google Assistant fail to launch, or does it launch but you get no response? That is often a symptom of either a poor network connection or a "frozen" radio (either toggle airplane mode or restart device to fix a frozen WiFi or LTE signal).
It will be working fine. Half the day this it will just not work it will open the app but won't recognize any voice
winco209 said:
It will be working fine. Half the day this it will just not work it will open the app but won't recognize any voice
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There are a few things you could try:
1. Force close the app when the freeze happens and relaunch
2. delete the voice recog and redo it.
3. Reboot phone to clear any problems.
I agree with other comment. Uusally if it does not recognize voice or keep toggling then it's most likely a connection issue. Good luck!

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