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Based on various news outlet (example: http://www.androidcentral.com/updated-google-wallet-app-coming-all-us-based-android-phones), Google has launched an updated Google Wallet app that will WORK with ALL carriers.
Previously, when I installed Google Wallet on my S4A, starting it will give men an error about my device is "not compatible", which is a given since AT&T pretty much blocked Google Wallet.
The new Wallet app supposed to rectify this problem. I updated today, launched the app and did NOT get the error above. I am now presented with a screen that asked which Gmail account I want to use for the Wallet App.
I selected my primary Gmail account, which I used to purchase apps and other Google subscriptions service and I got a:
"Failed to add account. An error has occurred while adding your account"
My web-based Google Wallet is fine, otherwise I won't be able to pay for stuff in Google Play.
Anyone get the new Google Wallet to work in the S4A?
I assume you did the Wallet hack? That might be why, I installed it with no problems last night. It let me choose my account and everything, no warnings at all. I can't verify that it actually works though, there's nowhere on island I can use it
Avail211 said:
I assume you did the Wallet hack? That might be why, I installed it with no problems last night. It let me choose my account and everything, no warnings at all. I can't verify that it actually works though, there's nowhere on island I can use it
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No, I use the legit app - downloaded from Google Play.
For your Google Wallet, is your account "Verified" in Google Wallet website? Mine is "unverified"...
I installed it on my I537 last night (or earlier today, I honestly can't remember, bleh) and set everything up but a) I don't have a legit Samsung battery at the moment so no NFC capability anyway (real battery should be here tomorrow, actually), and b) after reading up on the device support at Google's support site it looks as though there are two primary requirements for Google Wallet to function:
1) a device with NFC that is supported by Google Wallet
2) a carrier that supports Google Wallet also
Now, looking over the info again at the following link:
https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/1347934?hl=en
it does show that the Galaxy S4 is eligible which should mean the Galaxy S4 Active is included as well, it's the same basic hardware for the most part but, the issue then becomes is your carrier one that supports it, and according to the info on that page the Galaxy S4 (and by similarity in hardware, the Galaxy S4 Active) is only supported for Google Wallet using Sprint, US Cellular, and Google Play so if you're not using one of those you're/we're out of luck - I use T-Mobile and will test out Google Wallet over the weekend with the new battery. I get why Sprint and US Cellular are mentioned: because they ARE cellular carrier providers, but Google Play isn't so that's somewhat confusing why they'd mention it specifically.
Oh well, hope this clarification helps. I'm sure as time passes more carriers will get on board with Google Wallet - once Google starts pushing that aspect hard, other companies aren't going to have much choice but fall in line and provide support.
It's Google we're talking about here...
lanwarrior said:
No, I use the legit app - downloaded from Google Play.
For your Google Wallet, is your account "Verified" in Google Wallet website? Mine is "unverified"...
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I don't see anywhere about verified or unverified, but it does show my Nexus 7 and S4A as 'Active' when I look at it on my PC. I didn't see verified or unverified in the app either... Just that the devices are 'active'.
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I don't see anywhere about verified or unverified, but it does show my Nexus 7 and S4A as 'Active' when I look at it on my PC. I didn't see verified or unverified in the app either... Just that the devices are 'active'.
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If you go to Google Wallet on the web, click on Settings and you'll see a section called "Verify Identity".
BTW, my Google Wallet works now in my S4 Active.. had to uninstall AVG first then it works. Not sure why... But it seems the last AVG update "broke" certain thing? It even reported Cerberus as trojan now..
lanwarrior said:
If you go to Google Wallet on the web, click on Settings and you'll see a section called "Verify Identity".
BTW, my Google Wallet works now in my S4 Active.. had to uninstall AVG first then it works. Not sure why... But it seems the last AVG update "broke" certain thing? It even reported Cerberus as trojan now..
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Ahh I found it now. Mine says 'unverified' since I haven't given Wallet my address and such. There are 0 vendors where I live that use NFC readers so I haven't been able to even use Wallet, I just installed it in case I get to go back to the states for a visit.
Glad to see you got it resolved though!
I'm thinking of buying this tablet at some point for personal use and also school work, and wanted to know some things ahead of time.
How well does GApps work? Specifically Chrome, Drive, and Docs?
Would emulators work well? SNES and GBA specifically
Is there anything I should know about OTAs? Do any OTAs break GApps?
Anything else that's important I should know about?
Thanks for your help!
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I'm thinking of buying this tablet at some point
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Hello
answer to #2 is,
don't know yet but every game i personally tried works
I was planing on trying these, sooner or later
snes9x EX+ works with demo game
answer to #4 is
"there is no life after death"
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1) If you running 5.0.1 then chrome and drive work. Used both of them. Store works, Hangouts works including dialer for VOIP.
2) Can't comment never tried any.
3) As unboxed there is an OTA that brings the OS to 5.0.1. It makes Google store and Apps work but locks you into the Amazon launcher. As of right now there is no way of knowing what future updates could bring.
4) on the Amazon launcher widgets are not supported.
Sorry but I'm a total newbie with Kindle Fire tablets. I got my daughter this for Christmas and was setting it up for her so it's ready to go.
It never even crossed my mind that YouTube kids wouldn't be available. Now that I know it isn't, I'm hoping there is a way I can side load it. I uploaded the apk to Amazon Drive, downloaded it to the fire and it says it needs Google services.
Any help is really appreciated!
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Sorry but I'm a total newbie with Kindle Fire tablets. I got my daughter this for Christmas and was setting it up for her so it's ready to go.
It never even crossed my mind that YouTube kids wouldn't be available. Now that I know it isn't, I'm hoping there is a way I can side load it. I uploaded the apk to Amazon Drive, downloaded it to the fire and it says it needs Google services.
Any help is really appreciated!
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http://www.howtogeek.com/282425/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-amazon-fire-hd-8/
(same technique works on 5th gen Fire)
Discussion thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...google-play-store-fire-t3486603?tag=823814-20
Worked flawlessly. THANKS!
I was able to install the Google play store and install KidsYoutube, but i can't add it to the FreeTime account because it doesn't come up in the app list under managed apps. Any advice? I assume this is a permissions issue because other apps (including the google play store) don't come up either, only apps downloaded through the Amazon AppStore
Yes, I am also interested in trying to get google apps over to the freetime kids side. Is there a way to force it over or bypass the permissions issue? My daughter loves the kids tablet and it works beautifully but she still steals my phone for youtube kids which is the best standalone kids app out there. She loves it and cant have it on the freetime side of the tablet.
BulldogJoe said:
I was able to install the Google play store and install KidsYoutube, but i can't add it to the FreeTime account because it doesn't come up in the app list under managed apps. Any advice? I assume this is a permissions issue because other apps (including the google play store) don't come up either, only apps downloaded through the Amazon AppStore
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Yes, I am also interested in trying to get google apps over to the freetime kids side. Is there a way to force it over or bypass the permissions issue? My daughter loves the kids tablet and it works beautifully but she still steals my phone for youtube kids which is the best standalone kids app out there. She loves it and cant have it on the freetime side of the tablet.
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Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
How old are your kids?
I have a 4 and a 6yo boys, who both have a Kindle kid edition since Christmas 2015. When I first turned them on, I was extremely disappointed that the entire tablet was Amazon centered. Of course a quick look at XDA and both tablets were rooted running CM12 within minutes.
We of course did lose the whole "freetime" interface, which has only 12 months of free content, but figured that it would teach them Android, and maybe even make them smarter. Between Netflix, Youtube and youtube kids there was no real loss in not having freetime installed.
In order to block content, simply install Nova launcher, and hide apps that aren't kids related, and setup the home screen to be kid friendly (bigger icons, no google search bar, home button to open app drawer etc).
Now I can tell you that my 6yo totally mastered Android, creates app shortcuts, change backgrounds, downloads games etc. My 4yo can navigate Android comfortably, start apps he likes, search for videos on YTK and Netflix.
I feel that it challenged them to learn the OS as is, without sheltering them in a tailored made easy kid interface.
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fastamx79 said:
Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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Sweet, thank you! Looks promising! I'll give it a shot later tonight after she goes to bed so I can sit down and focus. I'll report back :good:
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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Long story short, it works! The parts they don't tell you, you'll need to also install all the google services on the freetime side to get the app to work. I figured that out after 10 minutes of waiting for that to update (i have it installed on the main account as well that's why i didn't put 2 and 2 together right away). I used the same method that was linked earlier in this thread.
After I got YT Kids setup on my freetime side I ran into an issue of not letting me sign in to my account. The screen would come up to add account, but then would go right back into the app. To get around this I also installed google play store on the freetime side. once that was logged in YT kids linked and it was done.
To install all that extra crap, use the same method as you will to install the YT Kids app.
It's not a pretty solution, but it works!
fastamx79 said:
Long story short, it works! The parts they don't tell you, you'll need to also install all the google services on the freetime side to get the app to work. I figured that out after 10 minutes of waiting for that to update (i have it installed on the main account as well that's why i didn't put 2 and 2 together right away). I used the same method that was linked earlier in this thread.
After I got YT Kids setup on my freetime side I ran into an issue of not letting me sign in to my account. The screen would come up to add account, but then would go right back into the app. To get around this I also installed google play store on the freetime side. once that was logged in YT kids linked and it was done.
To install all that extra crap, use the same method as you will to install the YT Kids app.
It's not a pretty solution, but it works!
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How do you install framework on free time side?
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How do you install framework on free time side?
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Take the 4 apk files (the google framework and playstore) and put them on the root of the sd card. Use a computer to do that. When I was trying to copy from internal memory to sd card i kept getting errors.
Once the 4 files are on the root of sd card, shove it back in the tablet, then go into freetime, launch the file explorer that's recommended in the walkthrough and install each one.
You may need to wait after first boot like 10 minutes for whatever apps you have installed on that sd card to rebuild. That happened to me when i put the sd card in, even though the tablet was off
fastamx79 -- I am having trouble installing part 3. Google Play Services 10.2.98 (240-146496160)--
It states app is not installed - when trying to install (the google framework and playstore) on freetime side-- it will not install
This is so frustrating -- please help
fastamx79 said:
Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
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Actually just registered finally so I could reply to this. I wrestled with this a bunch over Christmas - the key to doing this is an app in the Amazon Kindle App Store called GoToApp (I used the free demo version). Since it is in said store, you can assign it to your child account via the Freetime app on the parent side. I also also temporarily added a file manager to the child account as well - I used ES File Manager, which is also free and in Amazon's App Store, though I believe any file manager would work. Since they are now assigned to your child account, they should show up on the carousel in FreeTime mode like any other app . I then loaded the 4 APK files needed for Google Play and the YouTube kids APK onto an SD card. You then go into the child account and install the apps, using the file manager to get into the SD card. Once done, go into GoToApp - this app is essentially a launcher, and you can add YouTube Kids into it and let them launch the YouTube Kids App from within GoToApp. Both my older and younger sons very quickly learned that essentially GoToApp's icon = YouTube now.
A few other notes on this, however- if your kid is smart, they can use GoToApp for other things. I had manually installed a file manager and he figured out how to unhide it in GoToApp and then went to town. For my 3-year-old this was obviously a non-issue, and it has worked fine for him.
Also, the YouTube Kids app is very, very finicky when trying to get it installed. I found a specific version that worked when nothing else did. I don't know that version off hand, but can dig it up later if needed. I essentially just kept going back versions via APKMirror until I found one that worked (though once installed I never have had to update it, and it still works fine). I also found that installing the Play framework seemed to work best if I installed it only on the kid account and not the parent account - one tablet I had installed it on my account first, and then probably wiped it a dozen times overall before it worked decently. Only installing it on the parent account would give errors when it was then run via the kid account, and I had problems when I installed it on both. Once I figured out the way to do it, the other tablet was fine; I didn't have any problem with that tablet.
In the end, though, I ended up reverting back to a normal kid account for the older child - the combination of the backdoor combined with a lessened amount of parental controls led to him getting a little too into it some nights. I think that both of those issues are really more my fault more than anything else, especially the latter. What we did end up doing was putting YouTube Kids in the parent account and locking down as much as we could (can't open the Play Store or Settings without a PIN and so forth), and he now has to ask to watch (instead of being let loose with it) and is at least semi-supervised now. This also let me take better advantage of the FreeTime controls. On the other hand, the younger one still has this GoToApp setup 9 months later, and it has worked well for him with no problems to speak of.
Anyway, novel of a post, but if rather have someone learn from the mistakes I made and not have to put hours into it like I did.
EDIT: For some reason I thought that the above comment was second-to-last without any reply to it. Oh well, hopefully this helps someone.
e1999 said:
fastamx79 -- I am having trouble installing part 3. Google Play Services 10.2.98 (240-146496160)--
It states app is not installed - when trying to install (the google framework and playstore) on freetime side-- it will not install
This is so frustrating -- please help
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Might try Google Play Services 10.2.98 (230-146496160) instead - this is, I believe, the version I installed on my kids' tablets (one 2015 Kindle Fire 7" and one late 2016 Kindle Fire HD 8", if memory serves). I actually just did a wipe/reinstall on the HD tablet last week and the same file worked for me on the parent side at least (didn't reinstall on the kid account though).
Safe Vision app is similar to YouTube Kids
You can try Safe Vision app which is similar to YouTube Kids. Just search for 'Safe Vision' on Amazon App Store.
Disclosure: I am developer of this app.
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
lxmeta said:
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
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ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
MishaalRahman said:
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
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Let's try this one, as I neither can upload images nor post regular links yet "https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlBLD_fEYNd1xQL44nzSLry-EZoM"
DKXC said:
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
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Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
lxmeta said:
Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
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Yep I have a Fire 7, 5th generation. Disabled some bloat and removed lockscreen ads, it performs /okay/ now, but great to hear that the new Fire 8 performs good! Excited to test it out on Saturday.
lxmeta said:
ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
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Quick update. Realised that I was sloppy on the OS version: After the initial update it's 6.3.0.1. A reasonably clean Android 7.something
So far pretty much everything seems to work as wished. I usually install apps from the fire store if available, and then from play if I don't have the choice.
I have now Chrome, hangouts, hangouts meet, both with two accounts (enterprise and personal). Goole Play Music, Canon Camera Remote (Fuji is on the fire store) etc running.
Also my microsoft account works well, no issues with onedrive etc... For Skype I'm using the Kindle version.
One note: don't forget to enable the lock screen if you want to add a google enterprise account. Otherwise it will simply fail to log on, without a direct useful error message!
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
Google Play services won't run unless you update Google Play services
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
BilboSwaggins69 said:
I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
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Strange Google Play Books won't even install unless Google Play Services gets updated. Thanks though.
PSULightingGuy said:
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
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I've got the exact same problems on my new fire HD
Same problem! Repeat loop and back to sign in.
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Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
Same issue continuous login loop
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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I can login to Google in Silk.
All versions are the following:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi (040400-213742215)
Google Play store 11.9.14-all 214884739
I have dual factor authentication on my Google account which requires me saying yes to an authorization prompt on my phone.
That seems to work though because after that I am prompted in the Google Play app with terms of service. When I accept them, it goes back to the login prompt, requiring me to enter my credentials again. This loop didn't end even after five attempts.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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If you need something now return it and look elsewhere. Otherwise look for a workaround in the coming weeks. This doesn't feel like a showstopper issue.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Sorry to hear. Looks like something is behaving differently on your Fire.
You could try a complete reset and do it all over again if you are feeling adventurous.. Though I have heard that doing the same thing all over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
I do not 2FA on my google account, so that could have triggered it.
btw.: Did you also have the message about updating google play service after google play store the first time? Apparently my google play services framework still seems to have the same version number... Just looking for things that went differently on your setup.
Returning sounds like a good plan if an android tablet is what you really want.
According to this article, Google apps are not supposed to work on the newest Amazon devices. It also mentions something called "Yalp Store" which might be interesting.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...-amazon-no-more-android-apps-fire-os-0183744/
Also: I am not sure if the Launcher Hijack apk v.3 is working on the new Fire 8, but I found a new launcher called "Flick Launcher" which allows you to set a custom action for the home button. Set the home button to open Flick Launcher (open itself), and it will go to home screen. It will require the pro version which is $2.50. I don't have a Fire 8 8th gen to test it on, but it does work on my Fire 7 7th gen, and my Moto E Play. It's very slow getting to the home screen on the Fire 7, which has Lollipop, but it's a lot faster on my phone, which has Oreo, so it might be faster on Nougat. I am not sure if this is a definite solution, but it could be.
Hi everybody!
I recently received my X90 pro plus, after debloating the phone I wanted to connect the credit card to google wallet, after several fails, googling and looking up at the threads here what could I've been doing wrong I saw on google play that "Device is not certified" after that I've downloaded a SafetyNet Test app and to my suprise the test failed on the "CTS profile match". From what i've read it mostly fails on phones with root, but besides debloat I haven't done anything else. Did anybody had similar issue and managed to fixed it?
You should not be using SafetyNet to determine whether your device meets security requirements. SafetyNet has been replaced by Play Integrity.
Oh, didn't know that, thanks for the info . So I've checked security requirements with Play Integrity API Checker and managed to pass only on basic integrity :/, I assume that I should pass in at least in device and basic integrity, right? But the main question is does it have an impact on successfully adding a card to google wallet (I've updated already a google play store, and play services to the latest version which was recommended on other threads)
Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Mine also fails safety net. It did so out of the box even before debloating. I don't think debloating make any difference. The problem is that Google Wallet says that my phone isn't "trustworthy" and has been modified, even though it has not. So I cannot use Google Wallet.
Was your phone also from TradingShenzen @OthieDav and is it this CTS Profile Match "fail" that you are getting too? I was going to contact them about it because they said it would 100% pass.
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Yes I bought it from TradingShenzen also contacted them about this issue, will post what I got from them
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Thanks, looking forward to hearing back from you. I'll also post my own follow-up when they reply.
You have mis matches with your google services.
Play services, play store/framework cannot auto update themselves from Play store itself. Vivo crap store has them often outdated. No way around periodically installing them as APK or install APKPure AppStore and make sure vivo store doesn't ever start and downgrade them again or switches apps to their own version for spying and making money from adds (many apps if installed from Vivo store will play out adds via vivo contracts - Or better BBK). Of course bbk also offers some apps they have no contracts with and then it's just a copy from Play store..apps that have widespread use in China no matter where from are mainly affected.
On funtouch this problem doesn't exist, maybe that's the main reason the global versions are so expensive, Vivo expects to make a cut from advertisement, which they can only do on China OS (or mainly)
Could you please explain a little clearer?
I installed APK Pure store. Saw there was an update for Google Play Store.
I updated it.
Seems Google Play Services, and
Google Services Framework are both the latest version.
I ran Integrity Checker:
MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY: FALSE
MEETS_BASIC_INTEGRITY: TRUE
MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY: FALSE
SafetyNet still says: CTS Profie match. FALSE
So what would be the next step? I just want Google Wallet to work and I've heard its possible.
@luontokoodaus I've received a reply from Trading, they already got a few complains about safetyNet/integrity failing on the vivo, but they said that the next software update should fix the issue. Later I asked them if I should wait for the update or is there any other potencial fix. After that I just got a return request with slip from them without any answers to my previous question (that is a little weird tbh)
These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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These are my results. It's kinda weird why it fails for some people.
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The difference I see in my test is that my "Evaluation type" runs as BASIC not HARDWARE_BACKED, dunno why
I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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Because it's 3 googl services, not two.
Doesn't change the situation that this phone is notoriously unreliable and vivo coming up with new restrictions all the times that brick things working when you removed some spyware. In the past no problem removing the crap store or iqoo.secure, then suddenly you cannot do phone calls or remove certain apps with ADP (that before you could remove) or install apks...
The problems here are just another example for the worst UI and worst software quality on an Android phone I've ever used. Starting from Android froyo...
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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I also can't add my card to google wallet. I checked here and with Gizop before ordering and seemed to be no issue. If I can't use the phone for payments it's going back to China
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So not only a problem with Trading Shenzhen then. Weird. Well I sure hope the next software update helps.
I've contacted TS for a partial refund seeing as their product page says that they guarantee that you can use banking apps and payment apps like Google Wallet. I asked for a 10% refund.
Looks like the only step at this stage is to wait and hope a software update fixes it (very unlikely)
or
Use another phone for these apps
or
Root the phone entirely and hope that Magisk can keep the SafetyNet/Play Integrity status hidden from other apps.
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We get it. You hate Vivo, China, whatever. Now if only your posts weren't completely useless finger pointing and other negative nonsense. Other people are actually being helpful here, whilst you only seem to find time to talk smack and waste everyone's time who reads your posts.
Post something useful or don't bother. This community owes you nothing and you seem to do nothing but argue with others, get threads locked and otherwise can't even entertain a polite request when asked.
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you're reply looks like a bot from Vivo... I posted something useful - google services framework needs to be updated too - because the v-crapstore version is often outdated. Same as the versions for play services and play store. Only if all three versions are up to date will wallet work. And that means manual updating of these apps quite often.
Oh yeah before I didn't check, apkpure doesn't have services framework - it's available on some other sites however.
Check your framework - that has always been the solution to google wallet problems on Vivo. Just because you cannot read comprehensively not my problem.
And software updates won't fix it as long as Vivo crapstore has outdated versions of many apps - google is just one example but many other apps there are often outdated vs play store.
That has no consequences for most apps - but with google it has. On some apps it's actually more up to date sometimes - Like apps from Tencent (wechat) and maybe some more Chinese apps.
And rooting the phone will likely not be possible in any foreseeable future....
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Issue sorted?
Could be. Find it kind of ironic he posts this after making that idiotic rant thread about how these phones aren't supposed to work with Google when they clearly are more than capable of doing so if the developer gives a damn. Not sure also what is the point of making two OSes when you can just make one which CAN support Google even if you don't immediately ship it with Google apps because no one in China uses it.
I am not in a huge rush to get Google Wallet working, so I'll wait until this update is taken off trial and into the stable branch. If it does work though and I can use Google Wallet afterward, then this will be a 100% perfect buy for me so far.
Same here - it's the last thing I need to work and I can't fault the phone.