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Xperia V night shots :(

Hi, 3 days ago I've bought my Xperia V. After having SGS2 I've expected better photos from phone with Exmor camera. Could You post some Yours photos from Xperia V made in low light ? My photos can be compared to those on this site http://knowyourxperia.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/xperia-z-vs-xperia-v-night-shots-compared/ Is this sensor so crappy ? Even Xperia S (one year old model) has got better camera. The quality of photos is not acceptable. IMHO the problem must be in software because Xperia with the same sensor makes better photos.
Please post some examples from Yours Xperia V in low light condition.

Dont use "AUTO' mode when it comes to Xperia, friend. You have to use manual and configure by yourself ^^

Use night scene. It is really good at low light. When you use auto, ISO is also auto and all hells brake loose
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I'll try night scene and some manual settings however I was ex[ecting that Superior Automode will do much better photos. This mode makes very beautifull photos on Xperia Z. In conlusion - if manual settings would help then Sony should think to improve camera software on Xperia V. Camera should make beautifull photos out of the box like iPhone camera. Maybe it's not the best comparison however apple camera behave much better in low light condition. I know that it's not ther flagship but many people, like me, will buy Xperia V rather then Z because it's more more handy. Not all the people have pianist hands.

j_m_jackowski said:
Camera should make beautifull photos out of the box like iPhone camera.
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My Canon EOS-1D Mark III objects to this statement and says “camera should be set to a proper profile to get the most out of it”.

j_m_jackowski said:
Camera should make beautifull photos out of the box like iPhone camera.
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Do you know who manufactures the camera\sensor for iPhone 5?
Yep. Sony
Anyways.
Try using a different camera-app and modes.
I've taken many photos at night, and I'm overwhelmed by the light it absorbs.
I actually managed to take pictures of the Aurora Borealis.
Look for yourself (yes, they are choppy and of somewhat bad quality. but again, its a phone camera. but still one of the best if not THE best one out there.)
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And so it's said. I've NEVER managed to take photos of the aurora borealis with a phone before, and I've tried with iPhone, SGS2, Xperia Arc S, Xperia S and the Lumia 800. The Xperia V was the first one where I actually saw some of the lighting take shape on the picture.

Awesome, thanks for sharing those pictures. While they may not be compared to professional shots, the fact that you took them with your phone makes them feel somehow "closer".
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I have found Superior Auto mode to not be the best setting for the phone even though its supposed to its self automatically pick the best setting and through this setting it's automatic for when you use the sleep to snap function it shoots picks at 12 megapixels instead of 13 in this mode
Though I have a T and not a V I believe there close enough.
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Well, i dont think so Xperia V camera is so bad as photos , maybe different settings maybe other conditions ... i dont know .. here is photo taken by me ...

mundy725 said:
Well, i dont think so Xperia V camera is so bad as photos , maybe different settings maybe other conditions ... i dont know .. here is photo taken by me ...
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Yours photo is resized. Let me see 100% crop. from original size.

Extra resolution is there to allow editing and downsizing.
If you actually use full-size 12-13 Mpix photos anywhere outside of professional publishing and/or use smartphone photos for professional publishing, I don't really have anything to say that would not be insulting in one way or another.
The quality of a 12 Mpix smartphone camera image itself does not matter. What matters is what quality will a 1920×1600 (or less) image produced from it have.

Torres77an said:
I have found Superior Auto mode to not be the best setting for the phone even though its supposed to its self automatically pick the best setting and through this setting it's automatic for when you use the sleep to snap function it shoots picks at 12 megapixels instead of 13 in this mode
Though I have a T and not a V I believe there close enough.
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Superior Auto actually made the best pics in difficult conditions in my case....
But for the night the Night Mode...

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Yours photo is resized. Let me see 100% crop. from original size.
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http://www.mediafire.com/view/?064l0tknb2dvtla
I think problem in JB , All the Xperias get same options like V in camera settings ...

i think this is good for xperia v, and it better than iphone 5 as my experience...
But i cannot post my shot here by the forum rule ... let do this
ttp://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o587/blaue2/Xperia%20V/DSC_0005.jpg

jerrychf said:
i think this is good for xperia v, and it better than iphone 5 as my experience...
But i cannot post my shot here by the forum rule ... let do this
ttp://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o587/blaue2/Xperia%20V/DSC_0005.jpg
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Amazing Photo. What I've noticed. When making photo in night mode camera is not using high iso, it uses longer time to make photo. The problem is stabilization of camera

good hardware with poor software optimization. same goes with my xperia tx. i thinks they just to much compressed the image data make picture so poor. i think my old dead nokia n8 better take picture and video quality

We are missing something .... Personally i think , after updating JB camera quality get down ... reason is marketing ( selling Z ) later when we will get any JB update it will be fix ... maybe i am wrong ...

I also feel that my V's camera capability went down after updating to JB...

Post Pictures Taken with Xperia Z

Hi guys,
The best thing after design is Camera of Xperia Z, post some cool shots taken with your XZ (plz post 1image per post)
Note: If you like anybody's pics HIT THANKS !!!
Just to start here is mine.
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This was taken with hdr camera+ in quite low light.
Was comparing different camera apps last night.
Unfortunately the stock camera app either blurred it out, or fired flash and I got a blue white glare.

fards said:
This was taken with hdr camera+ in quite low light.
Was comparing different camera apps last night.
Unfortunately the stock camera app either blurred it out, or fired flash and I got a blue white glare.
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Dude, can you post the same shot taken by default camera !!
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auto+

Stock camera auto+
obviously flash fired, unfortunately it appears to cause a glare

Stock camera forced hDr no flash (same as the hdr camera+ app)
As I said I think the stock app(appears to be customized Corel suite that several oems use) is the issue with this device.

fards said:
Stock camera forced hDr no flash (same as the hdr camera+ app)
As I said I think the stock app(appears to be customized Corel suite that several oems use) is the issue with this device.
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so for now which camera app you would suggest? thanks.

Picture taken in low light - My Ipad Mini
Auto Mode
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fards said:
Stock camera forced hDr no flash (same as the hdr camera+ app)
As I said I think the stock app(appears to be customized Corel suite that several oems use) is the issue with this device.
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I just spilled tea all over myself laughing at your signature.
Wow..

fards said:
That phones too big!
why?
have you never held anything bigger than 4" in your hand? .
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LOL for ur Signature !!

All done in superior auto mode:

Akiainavas said:
All done in superior auto mode:
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Wow, I love the first one. I can't wait to take pictures of the beach!

MY little baby....it just rotate in the weird way lol.

I have done some tests today, simply to compare HDR and non-HDR photos (both in Normal Mode)
Without HDR :
With HDR :
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Without HDR :
With HDR :
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Without HDR :
With HDR :
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Without HDR :
With HDR :
Personally I think that in most cases HDR are a bit washed out.
HDR processing engine in XZ is not the best (I know what I am talking about, been doing photos for years ... with 60D, now with 7D over a year, processing with PS CS3, CS4 and now CS5).
What do you think guys ?

personally I think it's not post-processing the HDR properly, it's just saving the last exposure, (the stock camera takes 3 the same as the hdr+ app) then combines them.
You can see the different ones appear in the thumbnail preview in the stock camera app when you take a hdr photo, the last one is the one that shows up.
Must have a look at the logs, see if there's anything obvious.

fards said:
personally I think it's not post-processing the HDR properly, it's just saving the last exposure, (the stock camera takes 3 the same as the hdr+ app) then combines them.
You can see the different ones appear in the thumbnail preview in the stock camera app when you take a hdr photo, the last one is the one that shows up.
Must have a look at the logs, see if there's anything obvious.
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I wouldnt fully agree that it shows last from the 3. If it was, buildings would be properly exposed and the sky much over exposed. Like you can see this is not the case as the sky is still properly exposed.
Where to find these logs ?
I believe you are not talking about picture EXIF ?

Akiainavas said:
All done in superior auto mode:
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Looks like Basingstoke!
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here mine. one with auto and the other using panorama.

There's something wrong with some of your cameras,
it makes the sky look blue...
When everyone in the UK knows that it's grey
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trickyhenry said:
Looks like Basingstoke!
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Because it is
fards said:
There's something wrong with some of your cameras,
it makes the sky look blue...
When everyone in the UK knows that it's grey
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I've seen the sun yesterday. I know, shocking!

[PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos & Share Your 4.4.1 I mean 4.4.2 experiences!

[PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos & Share Your 4.4.1 I mean 4.4.2 experiences!
Post your Nexus 5 photos, videos, bugs and camera experiences!
Nexus 5 Camera Specifications:
8MP Sony CMOS IMX179 sensor (3264 x 2448 max resolution)
1/3.2" sensor area, 1.4μm sensor pixels
F2.4 aperture, 4mm focal length (35mm equivalent: 30.4mm)
Optical image stabilization (InvenSense IDG-2020 dual-axis gyroscope, same as LG G2)
Front facing camera: 1.3MP 1/6" Aptina MT9M114B CMOS sensor
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Looks promising
=)
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First off, the second pic...wow!!
These look amazing! If the new Nexus had this quality, I'd be one happy camper! The rest is gravy!

I just hope it is better than the one on Nexus 4 as that one is pretty bad.
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AppReviewBros said:
I just hope it is better than the one on Nexus 4 as that one is pretty bad.
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But better than the galaxy nexus, that's for sure! :laugh:

BoneXDA said:
Nexus 4 sensor specs (rumor at this point):
8MP Sony CMOS IMX179
1.4μm sensor pixels
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I think you meant 5.

Nathan-NL said:
I think you meant 5.
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could go either way at this point... N4 2013!
nice pics though, hard to tell how they stack up without comparing to other cams though. Also while the sensor seems solid we know nothing about the N5 optic stack which is just as important if not more so.

Great pics, but there's a lot of noise on that blue sky.
Indoor shots have surprisingly low noise though.

if it looks as good as in those shots, it's a must buy. especially if it's priced at $299

Apoxx said:
Great pics, but there's a lot of noise on that blue sky.
Indoor shots have surprisingly low noise though.
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There's some noise due to welcomed minimal post-processing, but it's uniform not color, which is good news. The IMX179 does pretty well up to ISO 400, from ISO640 and above of course noise becomes significant (still uniform). Then again; I'd put it around the iPhone 5 level which is more than satisfying. Hoping for the same F2.0 lens on the Nex5.
Low light MX3 shots:

BoneXDA said:
There's some noise due to welcomed minimal post-processing, but it's uniform not color, which is good news. The IMX179 does pretty well up to ISO 400, from ISO640 and above of course noise becomes significant (still uniform). Then again, I'd put it around the iPhone 5 level which is more than satisfying. Hoping for the same F2.0 lens on the Nex5.
Low light MX3 shots:
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OMG! i want this camera now!!!

Even those low-light shots looks promising
Is that due to the OIS thingy that the camera has? (Not even quite sure what it means / how it works)

ranadylt said:
Even those low-light shots looks promising
Is that due to the OIS thingy that the camera has? (Not even quite sure what it means / how it works)
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OIS stands for optical image stabilization, but as far as I can tell, the Meizu MX3 doesn't have it, nor do I expect the Nexus 5 to be packed with it. That's a nice area to cut corners. The MX3 pulls these shots cause of the nice Sony BSI sensor, wide F2.0 lens and long exposure time. There's also a lot of noise looking at full size shots at and above ISO800, but results do deliver really nice color accuracy (relative to mobile phones).

Very good photos, nexus 5 would be great

I don´t understand why but my Xperia arc have already an exmor sensor with 1.4μm but when i put the photos at 100% they are much worse than that. Maybe software related?

jlmcr87 said:
I don´t understand why but my Xperia arc have already an exmor sensor with 1.4μm but when i put the photos at 100% they are much worse than that. Maybe software related?
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I also have an arc s, and photo quality depens not only by megapixel but also by lens and software related.
Certainly the lens and the sensors of the mx3 are better, but also the software do his job (have you noticed that photos with a stock-based rom with ics are better than photos with jelly bean?)

BoneXDA said:
OIS stands for optical image stabilization, but as far as I can tell, the Meizu MX3 doesn't have it, nor do I expect the Nexus 5 to be packed with it. That's a nice area to cut corners. The MX3 pulls these shots cause of the nice Sony BSI sensor, wide F2.0 lens and long exposure time. There's also a lot of noise looking at full size shots at and above ISO800, but results do deliver really nice color accuracy (relative to mobile phones).
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According to the N5 log leak, repair manual leak and the recent leak on the Italian blog it does have OIS. So thats promising! Heres to hoping the OIS makes it to production.

can6rxw said:
First off, the second pic...wow!!
These look amazing! If the new Nexus had this quality, I'd be one happy camper! The rest is gravy!
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Are there not girls in Canada or something? Whats special about that picture?

Cronis said:
According to the N5 log leak, repair manual leak and the recent leak on the Italian blog it does have OIS. So thats promising! Heres to hoping the OIS makes it to production.
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That is just a draft, much of the information was copied over from the Nexus 4. Since "OIS camra" is keep being mentioned, my guess is that at the time of making that draft, the camera unit was not yet decided, otherwise it would state it's product number. I do wish we'd get an OIS snapper, but don't find it very realistic. They always cut the price at camera first. With that said, the IMX179 would be a step-up from the current sensor.

I'm not to worried about the camera it's the camera app that worries me. Hopefully it's not a slouch this time and includes 60fps at 1080p
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Camera quality in low light/indoors??

What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.

gumbsy1 said:
What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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Try manual mode, ISO 200 or 400 and +0.5 of ev
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gumbsy1 said:
What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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Timeshift burst also seems to work well in certain low light conditions.

gr00vy0ne said:
Timeshift burst also seems to work well in certain low light conditions.
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You can't use flash in timeshift mode though?

Hi All!
I just got my phone, and since I am not accustomed to android, I seem to be having something of an issue with the camera.
If I disable flash and take photos, they all come out great. If flash is on however, then I have a white haze over my picture. Manual/Superior Auto, it doesn't matter! I also changed the White Balance, the ISO, etc.. as has been suggested here, but to no avail!! Be it day, or be it night, it doesn't matter either!!
Can someone please help?

chinmays91 said:
Hi All!
I just got my phone, and since I am not accustomed to android, I seem to be having something of an issue with the camera.
If I disable flash and take photos, they all come out great. If flash is on however, then I have a white haze over my picture. Manual/Superior Auto, it doesn't matter! I also changed the White Balance, the ISO, etc.. as has been suggested here, but to no avail!!
Can someone please help?
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Do you have some sort of protector at the back looks like light is reflected?
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Jimvest said:
Do you have some sort of protector at the back looks like light is reflected?
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Ooh... Yes, that could be the problem. Thing is, its the default cover that Sony gave me, and until I get a new one, I can't see for certain if thats the troublemaker. But you must be right. If I put my fingers as close to the lens, then I get a pinkish haze. LOL. Sony's cover is a huge letdown.

gumbsy1 said:
What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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Try ISO 1600 & 3200 or set the scene to ISO High sensitivity. And make sure that you have the latest firmware.
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I would not use iso 6400, ussely the higher the iso number the higher the noise in a picture. Low light is always a problem with cameras even slr.
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Found a decent solution, 8mp 4:3 manual mode with hdr on, scene off and all other settings auto seems to be okay indoor and in low light.
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the sensor is made for low-light-conditions^^
here is a photo made in dark (discothek). its not only sharp in the focused area, its also bright enought ^^
Iso 400 1/32 sec. 20,7mp flash: on iso: average (or how its called in english)
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Caffeineshock said:
the sensor is made for low-light-conditions^^
here is a photo made in dark (discothek). its not only sharp in the focused area, its also bright enought ^^
Iso 400 1/32 sec. 20,7mp flash: on iso: average (or how its called in english)
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Yes this is a decent shot, but the subject is quite close so the flash has allowed him to be in focus. In superior auto mode however some of my shots wer awful, and when you open the camera app using the short cut from the lock screen it automatically goes into this mode, sometimes you haven't got time to mess around with the settings to catch the perfect shot
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I use "night portrait" scene and it gives the best images in low light conditions with minimum noise

Camera struggles to focus

Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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Are you using the drag to focus (or tap to focus for google camera)? although I've just tested mine and mine is focusing and refocusing between distance and very close automatically no problem.
I did read on another thread that it focuses using differences between shapes so focusing on a plain uniform surface won't be very reliable.

What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
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Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
I miss the lumia camera for this, 735 had a wonderful focus:
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Jhyrachy said:
What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
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http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
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Depends, mine can focus clearly all the way to ~6cm from the subject but the way the phone focuses it requires a definite 'hard contrast area' to focus on, although in your examples you do seem to have that (assuming you're trying to focus on the corner of the object above), if you try to focus on an area without much 'change' in the surface it won't focus.

Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?

I still sincerely hope they fix the camera in the upcoming update. The camera on the moto g is a major let down despite being an improvement over the previous generation in terms of resoultion.
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Jhyrachy said:
Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?
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http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.

jay2the1 said:
http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.
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Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?

Jhyrachy said:
Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?
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Thanks , yep I use the stock camera I've just updated to the new version and the results are the same, I have Google Camera installed for photospheres but don't use it otherwise.

I have copied your method, this is my best result so far: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...cqJYQ/w643-h857-no/IMG_20141026_221648051.jpg

srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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I have the same problem............

Just got this for my wife to.replace her old iPhone 4S. So far she is very unimpressed by the camera quality and the lack of focus accross the room. As it shifts through focal lengths it can get a crisp pictire but autofocus never stops at the right spot.
*edit* just purchased Camera FV-5. Had to boost the contrast and saturation in the app, but focusing is way better.

I too have this problem, I sometimes need to quickly take pictures of a page in a book for a quote, and the camera simply won't focus on the text at all. The moto g turbo used to do a great job, I thought I was getting an upgrade, but the g 4 plus camera focus on close objects and text is horrendous. Do you think an update will fix it?