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Camera Photo Taking - Quality is bad

Hi fellows,
Anyone can elighten me here? when i use the camera and take a photo, when I go and view the photo, it is not the same quality I saw on the display, for some reason when the photo is saved, it is smudge, anyone encounter a similar situation? This happen more when photo is taken at night, it seems that the saving process damages the quality of the photo
Any feedback welcome
Thanks

First of all, appreciate that the size of the lens of the camera is so small, not so much light is going through it. So, especially at night, it will be hard to get nice pictures. This is not a camera with a phone, it is a phone with a camera!
Another issue is when you press the shutter release - squeezing your finger shakes the camera a bit, and this is something many camera users have to bear with. One idea is to use the timer for this instance, and place the Kaiser somewhere steady. Also, be aware that from the time you press the shutter release until it takes the picture does take longer than many dedicated cameras, so when you are doing your best to hold your camera still, be sure to do it long enough. I did that same error in the beginning, moving the camera even before it had taken the picture. Just keep it still for another second before you do anything else.

Poor Lighting
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
Any pictures I take outdoors with my Tilt turn out great. Actually the video recording is pretty damn good too. Indoors pictures tend to pickup a lot of "color noise" (Red, Green, Blue specs in the image) when taken.
I don't know which model phone you upgraded from, but another difference between the camera on the 8125 and the Tilt is that we now have an auto-focus lens, and that increases the time required to capture the image.
In the end, I am very satisfied with the camera on my Tilt, but as usual these comments based on my experiences only.

NotATreoFan said:
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
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I've taken photos in bright sunlight outside and still gotten grainy/noisy photos, so I agree the camera is worse than the Hermes/8525 even w/o flash.
Richard

I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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grizzley said:
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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See, that's what we're talking about - look at the sky?!?!?!?!? Yeah, cell phones are crappy cameras but WTF is that? Your subject shows it a little on things like the tree trunk, etc, but it's horrible artifacting
Richard

It's a cell phone... I was drinking.... It's only 3MP.
As far as I am concerned, it's a good camera. We are the newest owners of the latest technology that still needs to be fine tuned. How many other cell phones have 3MP cameras?

I think the camera is very good... MUCH better than many other phones I've seen......
Take a look at this samples with my kaiser..
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas1.zip
Set the quality to finest, and be quiet when you take the photo..

so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com

grizzley said:
so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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that's not completely true... ;-)
I was simply trying macro capabilities
But take a look to this other samples (landscapes)... remember this is not a canon EOS, but it is a great camera for a mobile phone!
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas2.zip

I think the tilt takes damn good pictures for a camera phone, but video recording is better on the 8525!

grizzley said:
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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Although only 2MP, the Hermes has a better camera. Here's one sample:

Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!

I think the best setting for the camera to take good pictures is @ 1600X1200, with quality set to fine.
Here are some of my pics:

grizzley said:
Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
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Yep, so coming from that to the Kaiser hurts. There's a lot more to a camera than Megapixels! Hopefully these Kaiser issues can be fixed either in firmware or with camera settings.... I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
Richard

Anyone who thinks the pictures taken by the 3.2MP camera on the Tytn II is even half decent has got rocks in there head. Take a look at some pictures taken with Sony Ericsons phones.
http://flickr.com/cameras/sonyericsson/
Nice landscape on a 3.2MP k800i
See what a good 2MP can do.(k750i/w800i)
I miss my k800i I lost that has now been replaced with a TytnII. The TytnII does a lot of great things the k800i did not but taken pictures is where the TytnII falls drastically short of the k800i and other SE phones.

The video is terrible. The 8525 camera was way better. When I try to record everything looks sluggish.

i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
o and here's my sample pics on modaco:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...n/260817/Sample-Pics-of-the-ATT-Tilt-Kaiser-/

mikeeey said:
i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
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Mine were not - I didn't see any reason to pay for another camera app on my Hermes.... if it really cleans up the Kaiser images, I could be convinced otherwise
Richard

rsolomon said:
I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
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This is the well-known adjustment on the Hermes camera that makes the difference between sh*tty and good photos. And in older Hermes ROMs, this setting is not saved so you have to adjust it everytime you start the camera. I use the lowest Sharpness setting also on my TyTN II but unfortunately it doesn't give the same improvement as on the Hermes, just a little better.

4.4.2 Camera quality poll

Ok guy's I wanted to start a poll regarding the camera quality since 4.4.2.
I love my nexus 5 but I found the camera when it was stock 4.4 was impressive even in low light with the flash, However because so many people were complaining about the speed of it taking shots (it didn't bother me as long as it took nice photo's) Now google have responded with 4.4.2 and speeded the camera shot process however the image quality has reduced by some margin even in well lit area's,
So basically this is a poll to gauge who wants to take better quality photo's or faster photo's
Personally I couldn't care less how long it took as long they were good quality photo's...

Makes me glad I got the phone about the same time 4.4.2 came out

Requesting new poll option: Use a different camera app and be able to do both. No need to be limited by the automatic settings.

bblzd said:
Requesting new poll option: Use a different camera app and be able to do both. No need to be limited by the automatic settings.
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The trouble is as far as I know there is no 3rd party app that uses HDR+ mode.

Ady1976 said:
The trouble is as far as I know there is no 3rd party app that uses HDR+ mode.
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u can't tell the difference if u use HDR Camera+ and Snap Camera HDR

hello00 said:
u can't tell the difference if u use HDR Camera+ and Snap Camera HDR
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Does that app have Jpeg compression settings level similar to Camera JB+ ?

Ady1976 said:
Does that app have Jpeg compression settings level similar to Camera JB+ ?
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im not sure..maybe if u get the paid version for both of them

hello00 said:
im not sure..maybe if u get the paid version for both of them
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Thanks I shall have a look at that and compare some daylight and night shots.

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I for one am not updating to 4.4.1, or 4.4.2. I have no complaints with the release software. Who gives a **** about how good the stock photos are. If you care even marginally about image quality then you should know how to properly edit a photo. Simple as that. I love this phone.

Day shots are as good as before, night shots are worse, more noise and it's just not impressive anymore. I'd take the slower shutter for night shots anytime, and keep the new behavior for daylight shots.
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At least for me, low light camera shots look extremely better in HDR+ with the 4.4.2 update over the 4.4 release, but I can't tell a difference on day shots
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Sirgatory said:
I for one am not updating to 4.4.1, or 4.4.2. I have no complaints with the release software. Who gives a **** about how good the stock photos are. If you care even marginally about image quality then you should know how to properly edit a photo. Simple as that. I love this phone.
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That's exactly my point, I was extremely happy with stock 4.4, Camera was fine and video's were great so I'm gauging who prefers quality over speed of shots.
Question ? When your in the market for a compact camera what is end users primary concern ? How good the images are ? Or how fast it take shots ? Exactly point proved and judging from the results of the poll so far looks like I'm not alone either.

rayiskon said:
Day shots are as good as before, night shots are worse, more noise and it's just not impressive anymore. I'd take the slower shutter for night shots anytime, and keep the new behavior for daylight shots.
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Agreed, they boosted the ISO because they increase the shutter speed in low light thus images turns up pretty noisy. What's the point of having OIS when it can't use it? It's better to have slower shutter and low ISO to make the image sharper and less noise in dark environment, just make the OIS more aggressive, come on Google don't fail me now

I came from the HTC One and iPhone 5s. I dumped both for the N5 that I purchased used that was already updated to 4.4.2.
The noise level is way too high. Day or night. Focus issues are still present. What's worst is that I can never get a clean, clear shot. I don't even want to transfer the images taken from the N5 to the computer because I know it will be a lot worse than what I see on my phone.
I purchased Camera Awesome. Didn't do anything to help with the issue. Does anyone else have any suggestions as to a better app to use? Or a mod for a previous version?
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I prefer faster shots. With 4.4 I almost went nuts... especially in dark areas it was almost impossible to focus. So for me I accept the 5% worse quality and get 100% faster shots.

Very impressed with day shots, have yet to try a night shot, but I did notice the screen was much darker.
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Pictures is good, but in update i lost so good video quality, now camcorder is so dark, cant see the thing when there dark environment. And i dont know why
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Whatever they did to the camera they need to revert it. All photos shouldn't look like they were taken with an ISO of 800.
EDIT: It's worse than I thought. A relatively bright photo = ISO 1336.

I prefer the quicker photo's. I don't need a camera to take pictures of my dinner or a flower. Anyone who has kids is definitley enjoying the update.
If you look through the picture thread here the majority of the pics are people's food. I don't really need to keep a picture journal of what I eat. lol

Camera struggles to focus

Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
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srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app
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Are you using the drag to focus (or tap to focus for google camera)? although I've just tested mine and mine is focusing and refocusing between distance and very close automatically no problem.
I did read on another thread that it focuses using differences between shapes so focusing on a plain uniform surface won't be very reliable.

What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
http://imgur.com/dU6Rw5a,48MiVAd,g9CXRH0,cz6e6Sk,S8mNRYq
Motorola Camera with Autofocus
http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
I miss the lumia camera for this, 735 had a wonderful focus:
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Jhyrachy said:
What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
http://imgur.com/dU6Rw5a,48MiVAd,g9CXRH0,cz6e6Sk,S8mNRYq
Motorola Camera with Autofocus
http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
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Depends, mine can focus clearly all the way to ~6cm from the subject but the way the phone focuses it requires a definite 'hard contrast area' to focus on, although in your examples you do seem to have that (assuming you're trying to focus on the corner of the object above), if you try to focus on an area without much 'change' in the surface it won't focus.

Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?

I still sincerely hope they fix the camera in the upcoming update. The camera on the moto g is a major let down despite being an improvement over the previous generation in terms of resoultion.
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Jhyrachy said:
Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?
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http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.

jay2the1 said:
http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.
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Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?

Jhyrachy said:
Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?
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Thanks , yep I use the stock camera I've just updated to the new version and the results are the same, I have Google Camera installed for photospheres but don't use it otherwise.

I have copied your method, this is my best result so far: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...cqJYQ/w643-h857-no/IMG_20141026_221648051.jpg

srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app
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I have the same problem............

Just got this for my wife to.replace her old iPhone 4S. So far she is very unimpressed by the camera quality and the lack of focus accross the room. As it shifts through focal lengths it can get a crisp pictire but autofocus never stops at the right spot.
*edit* just purchased Camera FV-5. Had to boost the contrast and saturation in the app, but focusing is way better.

I too have this problem, I sometimes need to quickly take pictures of a page in a book for a quote, and the camera simply won't focus on the text at all. The moto g turbo used to do a great job, I thought I was getting an upgrade, but the g 4 plus camera focus on close objects and text is horrendous. Do you think an update will fix it?

Dxo review is out

It's here https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/OnePlus-5-review-A-serious-shooter

ITT:
Dxo gives a good score: "Paid reviews lost all my respect for dxo, oneplus sucks"
Dxo gives a bad score: "Lol I knew this camera was crap, oneplus sucks"

ZakooZ said:
ITT:
Dxo gives a good score: "Paid reviews lost all my respect for dxo, oneplus sucks"
Dxo gives a bad score: "Lol I knew this camera was crap, oneplus sucks"
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Lol yeah, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...

https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/883001008191754240

I don't think they ever switched to 4k for video... Stabilization is ? on 4k right now

B3501 said:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/883001008191754240
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David R from Android Police thinks the score was bought. That's pretty damming!

XDA's take on it https://www.xda-developers.com/dxomark-reviews-oneplus-5-camera-quality-gives-it-a-score-of-87/

A question - is EIS enabled on 1080p at 60fps, only on 1080p at 30fps, or both?

mrasquinho said:
A question - is EIS enabled on 1080p at 60fps, only on 1080p at 30fps, or both?
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Only in [email protected]

Have to say looking at the shot of the chap in the hat, the S8 looks superior in every way, it's a landslide.
for me the only problem with the camera is the lack of OIS, coming from the HTC 10 it's a noticeable loss.
Driving down the road (passenger) I can zoom and focus on an object in the distance with minimal effort and no wobble, the oneplus just can't do that, you would have to be gravity free and a dead object in order to get the same stability.
Other than that I think the camera is decent, oh and the odd weird water colour effect when zoomed in.
Might do a comparison video

To be expected, the camera certainly isn't exceptional but it still is pretty good. The big problem was that 1+ hyped up so much how good the camera was going to turn out to be that the expectations most people set out, weren't going to be met. But that's entirely 1+ fault for putting so much focus on promoting the camera.
The irony I find in all this is that had 1+ focused on a single lens camera, maybe they could have added hardware OIS, a larger pixel sensor and with the added bonus that they could have installed the display right side up, thus preventing the jelly effect some users experience. Considering the two highest scoring phones on DxOMark have single lens cameras, it's very probable that the camera could have turned out to be as good or even better than the U11 or Pixel.

coming from a note4
I was very impressed with tne oneplus5 in just about every way (the screen was just ok), except the camera. I wanted to keep this phone so badly, but in the end the camera just couldn't hold a candle to even my note4. I don't know if it's qualcomm's snapcam (running lineage right now) that makes it so good, but at full crop there is very little loss of detail, noise, and almost zero denoising artifact. I would snap the same subject with the oneplus5 and have to zoom out pretty far just to make the horrible noise and artifact bearable. If you don't ever zoom or crop, then the camera's pretty good. But if you routinely zoom the cam, or crop in on the pics after the fact, then this camera will disappoint. painfully so. I like the oneplus5 so much, in fact, that I'll keep an eye on it to see if there are improvements and am open to buying it again down the line.

I'll be perfectly honest. I love this phone. It kicks the crap out of my S8+ in so many ways. So much so that I'm trying to get rid of the S8+. I've got no issue with it and the photos are brilliant for my needs. However this score doesn't seem to fit.
And I don't know why anyone wants it to. You can't have a flagship level phone in ALL areas AND have it priced decently. Some people expect and want way too much out of OnePlus. OnePlus is alarmingly trying to cater to that. Stick with the original mission. Give us spec beasts with no bloat and none of the gimmicks. No one else does that. Most of us would rather you give us a powerhouse that does the intended job versus a bogged down wallet killer that takes photos on par with thousand dollar phones that we come to OnePlus seeking to avoid.
The camera is good. Great even. But it's not the best or within shooting (hah) range of it. It is what it should be. People are fine with that. People get pissed when it's hyped into something it's not and that they didn't expect out of you to begin with. That's your problem OnePlus.
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After reading the review, I'm not so surprised by the score.
They basically said that if you bring your tripod with you, you will get very good shots even in low light conditions but if you expect to take handled shots, the OP5 will end with blurry shots.
But DxO mostly doesn't care about handled performance because shots can't be perfectly reproduce so the score is fair considering their standards.
The only point where I strongly disagree is about video stabilisation.

Where they saw "good" photo quality, if in low light conditions OP5 do photos which we can rate to 0 score!

razholio said:
I was very impressed with tne oneplus5 in just about every way (the screen was just ok), except the camera. I wanted to keep this phone so badly, but in the end the camera just couldn't hold a candle to even my note4. I don't know if it's qualcomm's snapcam (running lineage right now) that makes it so good, but at full crop there is very little loss of detail, noise, and almost zero denoising artifact. I would snap the same subject with the oneplus5 and have to zoom out pretty far just to make the horrible noise and artifact bearable. If you don't ever zoom or crop, then the camera's pretty good. But if you routinely zoom the cam, or crop in on the pics after the fact, then this camera will disappoint. painfully so. I like the oneplus5 so much, in fact, that I'll keep an eye on it to see if there are improvements and am open to buying it again down the line.
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I'm with you. I snatched a 128GB Pixel for $510 on Swappa, so I'm sending the OP5 back this weekend. But I would buy down the road if it get dramatically better through updates, or the 5T brings OIS and better post-processing.

So, the OP5 camera (87) is better than the iPhone 7 (86) and almost as good as the Galaxy S8 (88)?
What.

I can't belive it because g4 has superior quality in crops:
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OP just upped the camera game. Now samsung, htc and google have to catch up

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...plus-5-camera-improvement-partnership-dxomark

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 5T's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

received yesterday mine...
ok in good light, really good with the portrait mode.
in low light is really poor... i came from a Nexus 6P and is not the best, but the one on the 5T is worst.
better the 16mpx camera, if start to shoot with the 20mpx the quality is dropping a lot.
somethink is not working.
i'm trying the Google camera modded, but no touch to focus. is an improve but OP have to work a lot.

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At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 5T's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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I took these photos last night at my friend's bar. It was not very dark actually but the photos were not that good compare to an iPhone or Samsung.
I was expecting a bit more for the so called "low light" sensor. Guess something is not working well here.

ccshou said:
I took these photos last night at my friend's bar. It was not very dark actually but the photos were not that good compare to a iPhone or Samsung camera.
I was expecting a bit more for the so called "low light" sensor. Guess something is not working well here.
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These are not completely awful. Bokeh is effective.
The camera could soak up a bit more light in the shadows.
Were these all taken in auto mode?
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johninsf said:
These are not completely awful. Bokeh is effective.
The camera could soak up a bit more light in the shadows.
Were these all taken in auto mode?
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These photos were taken in auto mode. They weren't that bad but they definitely have room for improvement. A little boost in exposure made those photos look much better without noticeable decrease in quality. Hope the devs will tweak the software in future updates to enhance low light performance

yeah low light is really bad and i doubt that it'll get better with the announced update. I'll return my phone this week
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kBbvjsPNbMGPw0HJ2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lp1lQ2vLzX9ToaDq2
https://photos.app.goo.gl/0CvF3wkuA4DAbKM52

The OP devs made a decision to use the low light camera when there really is hardly any light.. I guess they should let the 'low light camera' start to take pictures with a bit more light compared to how it's configured now.. But Im quite confident with all the feedback from the community they will fix these issues. And otherwise there will properly be a smart developer here on xda who manages to do something like that.

Just use Gcam, with google camera it's up there with the best to be honest.

What drink is that, with the Heineken in it??

BoostRoid said:
What drink is that, with the Heineken in it??
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He called it Heineken Green Tea, but it's got passion fruit flavor. Would you like one?

Just took a picture in Auto mode to show low light perfs
Let me know what you think.
https://ibb.co/h9yNeb

Bart1981 said:
The OP devs made a decision to use the low light camera when there really is hardly any light.. I guess they should let the 'low light camera' start to take pictures with a bit more light compared to how it's configured now.. But Im quite confident with all the feedback from the community they will fix these issues. And otherwise there will properly be a smart developer here on xda who manages to do something like that.
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I was thinking the exact same thing.

I'm using google camera with this settings (attached image) Thanks @dabrown101 .
Picture in low light are way better and more detailed. Very pleased with the result. Only problem is that HDR+ takes a while to process the image but that's worth it.
Gcam version post#1536:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/google-camera-hdr-t3655215/page154

Did you notice improvements with the new update?

Colday96 said:
Did you notice improvements with the new update?
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Yes it has improved with the update but gcam gives better details in low light .

pixel 2 xl is giving much better quality eventhough it has only one camera lens

delete me

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That's becore more isn't alway better. Much like the P20 40+20mp sensor - there are limits you cannot easily overcome with "more".
Firstly optics (the camera lens and size unless you want to carry a brick) and secondly the software processing (picture compression, sharpening, white balance and the like).
The Pixel 2 XL has not only native HDR+ support, but also a better camera sensor, lens and more importantly OIS - this will enable it to take better pictures in many conditions - especially low light or with moving targets. The O+5 can come close with the ported GCam App with HDR+ - not sure about the O+5T, tough never going to beat it most likely.
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Software processing is the only thing which is making the images look dull. I used Arnova's Google Camera pixel2mod and the difference is outstanding.....
the colours and everything is just super awesome. only the front camera doesn't work when you have enabled the screen flash enabled (didn't try panorama either) but the difference is amazing.

I have been using this phone for months now and im really disappointed with the overall camera performance both in low light n good light..I wish they fix this with update..I'm currently using Google pixel ported camera instead..the only time I use the stock camera is for selfies n videos..the auto mode is crap.. images look so soft compared to the gcam..