hello everybody,
I just purchased a GG yesterday, after reading a lot of your posts and thank you all for it. What convinced me was the new update that brings full notifications and better battery life. So far, I like it a lot, but of course 1 day is not enough.
There are 2 things I would like to ask other owners, who might have had it for longer time.
I read the post about the IP55 rating, but I would like to know if somebody really dropped it in water (most likely unintentionally), drop some water/liquid on it, got heavy rain, ecc. In other words, something more than washing hands or sweat.
Second point regards scratches. There are a lot of posts about this all over Internet, but very controversial. I would like to know if any of you had any scracth on the glass, the case or the buckle. If any of you experinced any serious bump, drops and so forth. I read somewhere that the GG has sapphire glass, but I seriously doubt it, as usually these glasses are very expensive and are used mostly on more expensive watches.
Thining logically, Samsung should have considered these issues, as after all, it is a watch and you want to wear it, so some kind of protection shluld be there. But I learnt that logic does not always work.
Any advice/experience you would like to share will be much appreciated!!!
Thank you very much,
Roger
I am using GEAR since end of OCT.
- water resistance - rain, drops of water is OK for the watch - if You search the forum you will even find the movie with the gear under kitchen tap water flowing on it. It is NOT ok for shower, swimming, diving etc. Generally - keep it away from water when possible. GEAR build quality is OK
If You wonder how SONY watch behaves - check their forum - a lot of complains and quality issues in general like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574988
- scratch resistance - Gear glass is NOT scratch resistant! it scratches very easy so keep it away from any hard objects, sand, metal, etc. Generally speaking- with the product life of maximum 1 year ( yes, we may expect GEAR II not later than September 2014) scratch resistance is not so important, and Samsung for sure will not use sapphire for the glass - it is too expensive.
I've had mine since day one and no problem with it whatsoever. I don't take it off when I wash my hands just careful not getting it wet.
Battery life is pretty strong as you go about two days. Don't have any scratches on it so far but I'm pretty careful when I'm around walls/tables/desks.
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I've had mine since day one and no problem with it whatsoever. I don't take it off when I wash my hands just careful not getting it wet.
Battery life is pretty strong as you go about two days. Don't have any scratches on it so far but I'm pretty careful when I'm around walls/tables/desks.
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Same here ^^^
I have washed my hands with mine on and have gotten water on it (even into the speaker area) no problems so far. Regarding scratched, I put on a skinomi shield (invisible shield type). Looks awesome! Super clear and can barely see it's on. I got the full body which has a cover for under the watch (not too sure why you would need it but I put on since it came with it). I should let you know that with the full body cover, the charger takes some work to get it to close but it's definitely close-able. Have fun with you new gear. I know I am.
Picked up a galaxy gear with carbon fiber skin protector from skinomi and it came with a screen protector too. Bought extra screen protectors off Amazon just in case. Everything running great and not worries about scratches anymore. Still very cautious around water though.
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Had mine for awhile as well. I don't worry about washing my hands or rain. Just wouldn't submerge it to be on the safer side. Scratches... The speaker clasp is pretty scratched up but I'm not too concerned about it. As for the face, I have hit/bumped/scraped on things such as desk, doors, walls, etc. So far it has held up well with no noticeable scratches. However I always worry every time I do bump it.
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I know this is a slightly callous thing to say, but suddenly watches have fallen into the bi-yearly replaceable category.
No longer are they finely hand crafted devices that merely tell you just the time (and sometimes the date), they are an extension of your phone. Generally my analogue time pieces would last me anywhere between 5-15 years. This is technology though and we all know it can become out of date very quickly. It's sad and I dislike this fact, but I know that in a year or two I will want to upgrade to keep up with the Jones'. Not just that, I guarantee the Note 6 won't support the original Gear.
We're stuck in the cycle now!
My gear has me essentially committed to samsung now. I usually switch out phones alot but no more. No nexus 5 for me I guess. I wish I didn't have to use some weird workaround to get it to work with another phone
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WRichieX said:
I have washed my hands with mine on and have gotten water on it (even into the speaker area) no problems so far. Regarding scratched, I put on a skinomi shield (invisible shield type). Looks awesome! Super clear and can barely see it's on. I got the full body which has a cover for under the watch (not too sure why you would need it but I put on since it came with it). I should let you know that with the full body cover, the charger takes some work to get it to close but it's definitely close-able. Have fun with you new gear. I know I am.
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Were you able to get the Skinomi clasp cover to stay on? Mine was very difficult to get on to begin with and I could never get the corners to adhere properly. Within a couple days, the corners were full of dirt. Skinomi sent me a new one, but same problem. Is there a trick to get the corners to stay down, or is the clasp cover just useless?
I am sure you ll enjoy your gg . I just bought one purely to be used when I am out on my motorbike as it will be alot easier to see who calls etc without reaching to my phone with gloves and stuff.
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I know this is a slightly callous thing to say, but suddenly watches have fallen into the bi-yearly replaceable category.
No longer are they finely hand crafted devices that merely tell you just the time (and sometimes the date), they are an extension of your phone. Generally my analogue time pieces would last me anywhere between 5-15 years. This is technology though and we all know it can become out of date very quickly. It's sad and I dislike this fact, but I know that in a year or two I will want to upgrade to keep up with the Jones'. Not just that, I guarantee the Note 6 won't support the original Gear.
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Learn some basic electronics work and you'll be able to keep stuff running for much longer. That won't help with stuff that just get outdated to the point where they're no longer useful, but I don't see all that much application for more processing power in a watch. In a few years, just open it up and swap the battery with one purchased for a few dollars on a site like HobbyKing.
NiHaoMike said:
Learn some basic electronics work and you'll be able to keep stuff running for much longer. That won't help with stuff that just get outdated to the point where they're no longer useful, but I don't see all that much application for more processing power in a watch. In a few years, just open it up and swap the battery with one purchased for a few dollars on a site like HobbyKing.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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By the same logic, once the battery goes dead in your car, it's time to buy a new car because replacing the battery is "immoral and illegal". There's nothing wrong with trying to fix something you own.
This is truly an informative thread, thanks for all the detailed replies.
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I don't need to know much about electronics to know that paying for Battery no matter how cheap, at HobbyKing or at the street corner against someone no longer useful is both immoral and illegal.
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Maybe there is a language barrier issue, but Klau1, if it is your watch then of course you can replace the battery in it with a new one. This is not immoral or illegal in any way.
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Maybe there is a language barrier issue, but Klau1, if it is your watch then of course you can replace the battery in it with a new one. This is not immoral or illegal in any way.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(crime)
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Lol. There is DEFINITELY a language barrier it seems.....
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(electricity)
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@jonboyuk: It turns out the Note 4 doesn't even support the original Gear.
Tati F said:
@jonboyuk: It turns out the Note 4 doesn't even support the original Gear.
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It's working fine on my T-Mobile Note 4 running fireKat rom
Edit... Mostly fine. The usual unlock issue
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It's been a while since many of us got the Nexus S. For those of you that decided to go without a screen protector how is your screen now? We know its not Gorilla glass and there has been some debate if one is needed or not. So naked people, how's your screen today? (If you purchased the phone like 4 days ago please ignore this. I'm more curious about people that have had the phone since launch or close to launch)
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Beautiful and scratch/mar free.
Been running naked screen since 12/16 with no regrets.
Got my phone mid-January, and I decided to play it safe. Ghost Armor. Love it and it works great.
I'm considering pulling this ZAGG off of this beautiful Super AMOLED.
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Got my phone mid-January, and I decided to play it safe. Ghost Armor. Love it and it works great.
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Ghost Armor interested me, but there's no kiosk near here in Los Angeles.
I used to be really good at installing Zagg full bodies and other brands of screen only, but I messed up my last Zagg attempt (my i9000) and am not 100% happy with the outcome, but not unhappy enough to re-do it, so not sure I want to invest the time and money to go with the GA, especially since I would not put it on the screen, just the back.
I used screen protector on my previous phones (G1, nexus one, G2). When I got this phone I realized that I was taking care of my phones just so the second owner will get a almost brand new phone and wasn't enjoying it to it fullest.
I got the Nexus S and there was no way I'm putting cloth on this sexy screen. I'm enjoying the phone to it fullest. No scratches so far, I also take good care of it by dedicating my right packet only for her, no coins no keys, just my nexy.
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Ghost Armor interested me, but there's no kiosk near here in Los Angeles.
I used to be really good at installing Zagg full bodies and other brands of screen only, but I messed up my last Zagg attempt (my i9000) and am not 100% happy with the outcome, but not unhappy enough to re-do it, so not sure I want to invest the time and money to go with the GA, especially since I would not put it on the screen, just the back.
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Ooo ya, if there hadn't been a kiosk I wouldn't have done the GA. And you'd have to buy the whole body protection which I'll admit adds sharp corners to the phone that I'm not 100% fond of. I actually took off the side protection because it was just too damn sharp.
By the way, distorted. Have you noticed its pretty much just you and I in the mornings and that we just end up chatting?
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By the way, distorted. Have you noticed its pretty much just you and I in the mornings and that we just end up chatting?
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Yeah, actually I had noticed that you and I tend to hit the same threads at the same time.
Maybe we're just the only ones on the West Coast...everyone else has hit work by now. For them, it's not as much morning as for us.
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Yeah, actually I had noticed that you and I tend to hit the same threads at the same time.
Maybe we're just the only ones on the West Coast...everyone else has hit work by now. For them, it's not as much morning as for us.
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Fair enough, though I'm surprised by how early you get up. I'm only up this morning because my wife woke up with a fever so I'm up taking care of her for a bit.
I Zagged my first one but had to return it(TBH i didn't like the zagg but like to keep my phones in tip top condition as i only keep them 6 months.)
anyway CPW replaced my phone last week because the back button wasn't working but I could't transplant the zagg so went naked !
bad decision...although I keep it in a leather pouch, I noticed yesterday there is a small scuff to the screen coating near the earphone.
I love the phone but what a bad decision not to have gorilla glass or factory apply a protector!
I'm going to take it back to CPW and see if they'll replace it under sale of goods as the screen is not performing as expected - no one would expect a scuff within 5 days if their phone is only ever touched by fingers or the felty inside of phone pouch.
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Fair enough, though I'm surprised by how early you get up. I'm only up this morning because my wife woke up with a fever so I'm up taking care of her for a bit.
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I don't sleep much. I was up at 3:00 AM local today, but took a short nap at 4:30 or so.
Getting old sux, you need more sleep, but can't seem to get it!
I hope the wife's not too ill.
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no issues whatsoever. Screen protectors r overrated.
I got mine on first launch day, and basically I used that one as my experiment phone just to see how durable the screen was in comparison to my previously owned N1. I had the phone about 2 weeks before I noticed some very light scratches on the screen. Nothing visible head on, you could only see it from an angle with a light source reflecting off of it. For the most part, I kept it in my pocket free of hard items, but there were times when I threw it in my pocket with a few coins and keys in there. My second unit I kept for about a week. I specifically steered clear of sharing my phone with other items in the same pocket. Lo n behold, another small scratch surfaced up on the display. As I said before, it's nothing you can see right off, unless you specifically look for it. Over a short period of time, using this phone without a screen protector, will develop some sort of scratches on it, guaranteed!
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I have the Nexus S for 10 days now. No screen protectors but I put it in a soft pouch when it's in my pocket. So far pristine.
I've been carrying mine in a ziplock in my pocket. My pockets seem to attract lint like no tomorrow, and I dont
want any getting stuck between the screen and bezel. I wish my cases, soft pouch, and Skinomi skin would show up already.
Phone is pristine, I'm just trying to avoid micro-scratches on the battery cover.
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I've been carrying mine in a ziplock in my pocket. My pockets seem to attract lint like no tomorrow, and I dont
want any getting stuck between the screen and bezel. I wish my cases, soft pouch, and Skinomi skin would show up already.
Phone is pristine, I'm just trying to avoid micro-scratches on the battery cover.
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I use ziplocks for my phone when it's raining (which doesn't happen much here in LA); I don't even need to take out of the bag to make a call or use the phone.
Ive had mine for about 6 weeks now...just before christmas i got it. Up until about a week ago i used it with no screen protector. Its fine as you would expect. But anyway i been using a screen protector for about a week now, and i feel a lot better...i dont have to worry about any little accidents or anything.
Screen responds exactly the same...no issues.
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What protector is the best for clarity? I have a Zagg and it isn't the best for clarity.
I have seen a realook on a captivate and it looks great but they don't make one for the Nexus S.
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What protector is the best for clarity? I have a Zagg and it isn't the best for clarity.
I have seen a realook on a captivate and it looks great but they don't make one for the Nexus S.
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Seidio and Steinheil. Clarivue is also good.
Ghost armor all the way! No issues here with it. Had it on my g1 and it kept the phone perfect for 2 years. That one was applied by the kiosk. Don't have one real close to me now in this state but after applying these things now in a few phones I could probably do it in my sleep. Nothing under my screen and it looks and feels great. No clarity issues and it seems the film self heals scratches. You can just barely see orange Peel in certain angles under the light but you can't feel it. I had the zagg before and its utter crap in comparison. The zagg is very bumpy and the thickness of it doesn't feel right on the phone. I've found the ghost armor to fit better as well. I originally wanted a static type like realook but with the curve of the screen it doesn't seem any of those type will fit as flush as this one.
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Does any member have any information regarding the Gears watch Crystal? I doubt it is sapphire glass but ponder if its Corning Gorilla. I ask as I notice some third party brands are already offering screen savers? On a watch though? I can say this with no hesitation if the glass is not strong I will be numero uno to bust it. All my watches have a sapphire crystal for this reason.
What happens when that strap wears out? It appears an integral part of the watch and non replaceable? Again any one know what the strap is made from?
I think in all my years of purchasing technology this is my first without actually seeing the device. Still a fool is soon parted from his money so that's why I am broke again!:silly:
Thanks in advance,
Regards
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Does any member have any information regarding the Gears watch Crystal? I doubt it is sapphire glass but ponder if its Corning Gorilla. I ask as I notice some third party brands are already offering screen savers? On a watch though? I can say this with no hesitation if the glass is not strong I will be numero uno to bust it. All my watches have a sapphire crystal for this reason.
What happens when that strap wears out? It appears an integral part of the watch and non replaceable? Again any one know what the strap is made from?
I think in all my years of purchasing technology this is my first without actually seeing the device. Still a fool is soon parted from his money so that's why I am broke again!:silly:
Thanks in advance,
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Surely some one here knows the answer to this one?
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Surely some one here knows the answer to this one?
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Sapphire Glass
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Sapphire Glass
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I do hope you are correct. sapphire glass rates only second to diamond in terms of hardness. Sapphire glass costs a fortune though! How the heck have Samsung managed to fit a sapphire glass that size when the glass alone would cover the total cost of the watch?
Why are Samsung so secretive about the specs. I still cannot find 'an official' spec from Samsung that has this information in writing?
No need for screen saver with sapphire glass that a given. I do hope you are correct.:good:
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Bulk purchasing power, that is how Samsung manages it plus they are likely not making anything off version 1.0 so they can get more sales on the Galaxy Note series they are tied into.
Guess I beat you guys to it.. :|
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46304176#post46304176
As I suspected from the word go, its NOT sapphire glass.
This is one of those occasions where I hate to be proved correct. I thought sapphire was too good to be true.
I have written a reply in your other thread regarding your problem.
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Its not sapphire its gorilla glass 3
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Its not sapphire its gorilla glass 3
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No confrontation from me at all when I ask where you got that information from? The safety booklet that comes in the box in SOME countries, not this one, says; Glass or acrylic?
How could it be Glass or acrylic, its either one or the other and if Samsung don't know who does?
Again, I would question Coning glass as mine already has minute marks on the glass and I treat my watches with the greatest care and respect, I collect them.
Agggggga, cant we find a definitive answer to this?
Thanks for your input though. Please do let us know where this information comes from.
Kind regards.
I asked my Samsung rep he said gorilla 3
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I asked my Samsung rep he said gorilla 3
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Nothing official then or printed on a Samsung site? Reps will and do say anything. I have no idea where your rep got his info' from?
The warranty book that comes in the box in most countries states the crystal is made from Glass or acrylic? Don't ask I have no idea.
One chap I asked said the crystal was "Some sort of glass and the camera lens is acrylic"?
Absurd not being able to ascertain such basic information in writing from Samsung. I have now put mine back in its box until some screen savers arrive. I don't want to risk scratching that large screen, would detract from the looks.
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I haven't even been able to use it for more than one day. Watch is sitting in its box back home, will contact my service provider once am back from my trip..
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siddsm said:
I haven't even been able to use it for more than one day. Watch is sitting in its box back home, will contact my service provider once am back from my trip..
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Same with me. Add to the lack of consumer knowledge regarding the crystal I am seeing more and more posts regarding the lens misting up.
This has been due to perspiration. I live in the hottest country in Europe and just a walk to the post box can make one sweat especially under ones watch. My concern is that lens plus those bare contacts, will they short out? No exposed electronics like moisture!
Have got to the point where I am just not using the watch, I just don't need this hassle-worry right now. Like many others I have a waiting list of problems and a wrist watch will have to join the end of a long list of far high prioritise.
Best wishes.
I have a few micro scratches on my watch face now. I had a cheap screen protector on it for all of last week and I removed it Saturday because I thought that the glass was sapphire. Well it must not be, because I wiped the dust off of the face with my shirt and now I have a few scratches. They are very small but I can see them in the right lighting.
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I have a few micro scratches on my watch face now. I had a cheap screen protector on it for all of last week and I removed it Saturday because I thought that the glass was sapphire. Well it must not be, because I wiped the dust off of the face with my shirt and now I have a few scratches. They are very small but I can see them in the right lighting.
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Hi, From posts I am reading it certainly appears the crystal is not sapphire. At this price I thought it impossible even though a few posters assured me it was sapphire.
I have already re ordered some screen savers BUT screen savers on a watch? The problem is the crystal is raised so will attract every tiny mark as yours has done. Add this to the camera misting up, the clasp being the most unreliable type of design possible, poor IP protection and the Gear is already a hard ware nightmare.
I will probably be purchasing the Sony 11 when it arrives here as already I am seeing in some other countries the price has dropped.
Overall I suspect the gear was rushed into production without research and development just to try and be the first of its type on the market regardless of some very poor design faults. On this occasion Samsung has not impressed me.
Oh BTW, why has Samsung introduced the Note 3 some weeks ago yet we are still waiting to see any official Samsung accessories like the numerous covers we have been promised? I think Samsung has feelings or grandeur and is due a fall. Did you know all Note 3 are region locked and Samsung is about to do this with the S4 etc?
No idea why a brand would deliberately alienate its customer base like this.
I am still unable to ascertain from Samsung what the crystal is actually made from.
Kind regards.
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Hi, From posts I am reading it certainly appears the crystal is not sapphire. At this price I thought it impossible even though a few posters assured me it was sapphire.
I have already re ordered some screen savers BUT screen savers on a watch? The problem is the crystal is raised so will attract every tiny mark as yours has done. Add this to the camera misting up, the clasp being the most unreliable type of design possible, poor IP protection and the Gear is already a hard ware nightmare.
I will probably be purchasing the Sony 11 when it arrives here as already I am seeing in some other countries the price has dropped.
Overall I suspect the gear was rushed into production without research and development just to try and be the first of its type on the market regardless of some very poor design faults. On this occasion Samsung has not impressed me.
Oh BTW, why has Samsung introduced the Note 3 some weeks ago yet we are still waiting to see any official Samsung accessories like the numerous covers we have been promised? I think Samsung has feelings or grandeur and is due a fall. Did you know all Note 3 are region locked and Samsung is about to do this with the S4 etc?
No idea why a brand would deliberately alienate its customer base like this.
I am still unable to ascertain from Samsung what the crystal is actually made from.
Kind regards.
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I don't even think the watch face is crystal at all. It feels like some degree of plastic in all honesty. You would expect crystal to feel hard and cold which this doesn't. I have Omega and other Swiss watches and their faces feel a lot better. I wouldn't get your hopes up that the face is made up of quality components. Its price is just too low for that.
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I don't even think the watch face is crystal at all. It feels like some degree of plastic in all honesty. You would expect crystal to feel hard and cold which this doesn't. I have Omega and other Swiss watches and their faces feel a lot better. I wouldn't get your hopes up that the face is made up of quality components. Its price is just too low for that.
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Indeed so. Your Omega will 99% certain be sapphire though a very few have another type of watch crystal. The term 'crystal' is watch trade jargon for the glass. Though I am NOT in the watch trade my family has been for over 100 years. I also collect watches.
One kind poster here replied that the booklet he received inside his Gear box actually had written " glass-acrylic" That threw me for a complete loop as its either one or the other. I have asked my family and to their knowledge there is not a hybrid glass acrylic watch crystal?
The point that rather puzzles and disappoints me is when I asked Samsung in writing what the crystal was made of they replied that I had asked an "inappropriate question"? What on earth does that mean and why all the secrecy?
Another poster has said the crystal is made from Corning Gorilla glass 111, I requested his source for this information but to date no reply?
WE should be informed so we can take the level of care needed depending on the materials used. My other grave concern is the very low Ingress protection. This is first and foremost a wrist watch and needs to function to a certain degree of robustness and water protection OR the b++++y gear is as useful as boobies to a Nun!
Such potential yet so much of it seems incomplete?
Kind regards.
My Casio protrek and Suunto watch crystals are way more robust than these. And I have actually had zillions of mishaps with the protrek. Not a single scratch yet, nor in the Crystal nor the titanium band.
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Been using my Galaxy Gear since Friday, had the weekend to play with it and in my honest opinion those bad reviewers were smoking something. =)
First off, they say there is lag and it's slow to respond. I'm VERY sensitive to lag and I have yet to find any lag on it, the UI is very smooth for me. It registers all of my swipes first try. The only real "slowdown" is S-Voice, but it's really not that bad considering it has to fetch the information and communicate with the phone.
Second they say the camera is mediocre. I disagree, I think the camera is GREAT on a tiny little device like this especially macro shots. Sample attached.
Third, some say it's uncomfortable, I found out after wearing for 10 minutes I hardly notice it on my wrist. It's just as comfortable as any other large men's watch while having a very sleek modern look to it.
Most importantly it doesn't feel like a beta product to me at all, everything works GREAT, it integrates very well with my Note 3. All the things I thought I'd have issues with turns out to be non-issues. I use the stock email client for Gmail and it works fantastic. Battery life is GREAT in day to day use, I went through a whole day of moderate use and still ended with 40 percent life left. It's the perfect companion device for me, I never miss anymore emails, phone calls or text messages. It has a very reliable bluetooth connection, only disconnecting when I'm too far out of range.
Being notified of an email or text message with a discreet little vibration on your wrist during a meeting or movie is priceless. Seeing people's face in awe when you answer a call from your watch never gets old. I'm a cyclist and this thing will be a godsend, I always would have to stop in the middle of a nice ride to check my phone when I receive a text just to see if it's important. Now I can just glance down at my wrist and keep on rolling if it's not urgent.
Lastly, this thing is a chick magnet lol. I had 3 ladies asking me about the watch while standing in line at a show, granted one was like 50+ but still. Chicks see the commercial and they get LOVE IT. I'm happy to report I love it also.
the idea behind the gear is great, but samsung did not impress me with features out of the box. admit it, smartwatch could be done 10 times better, even for 1st generation.
comparing features (except for camera/phone functionality) sony smartwatch 2 has most of them too, and it's like 2.5 times cheaper.
i'm not being cheap or greedy, but paying 300 euros for beta product is way too much in my opinion. i guess it will all change once there are custom roms and more software, but still, this thing should be a beast out of the box on the release day! why do we always have to wait for updates?
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Lastly, this thing is a chick magnet lol..
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Agree it is smooth and fast in operation, and as for ladies.... my wife and her daughter want one! Guess I married the right young lady :highfive:
You're preaching to the choir. Great hardware... Love the phone, SVoice and notifications.
I think your just wrong i understand if €300 is a lot of money for you to pay but is it fair to criticise a product because you think it's expensive.
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thats why i never trust reviewers, remember what they said about the original note? lol
I totally agree with the OP. This device is already great and will get much better.
it's expensive for the things it does. they should include things like sms writing support, full e/gmail browser, web browser, easy way to customize 'clock screen', timer, stopwatch, compass, flashlight (white screen), maps and full notification support i could justify the 300 euros price tag. but at the moment it really lacks simple features, or they are done in an annoying way.
I agree with you
Software software software.... All I read is moans and groans about bloody software. They will come, this is new technology in terms of software.
The real problems are the hardware and that we can do zero about. WHO in their right minds makes a wrist watch that is only water resistant to IP55 ie splashes or minor-some contact with water. If this watch gets a soaking even in the rain it will become a brick.
The clasp. It has the most infamous type of clasp used in the watch trade. There are already threads on this very topic that I warned about when the Gear thread section opened. The sort of clasp is just totally unacceptable for a watch in this price range. The camera is great when there is no moisture on the lens, that hole at the back of the lens needs to be sealed with tape.
The idea, the concept and design are great the software will come BUT this watch may not last long enough to take advantage of further software development. Like it, love it or hate it we cannot blindly enjoy the James Bond feeling for a month or two only, There are several severe hardware features that truly should have been sorted before this came on the market. I hate having to remove this watch every time I go near water and need to immerse my hands. That clasp is already starting to show signs of not closing correctly and those who bend that tiny spigot will soon realise that that bending only resolves the problem for a short time as once we start bending that spigot it weakens the metal and eventually leads to complete clasp failure.
I, like the OP, like the concept and enjoy the experience of ownership but only to a point. I fear a number of those who crow loudly now will soon be writing here about these problems.
I do find it idiotic that some owners have returned their watch due to the lack of software! That is the least of my concerns. This is not a well developed watch. It is also very expensive here in Europe. I don't even want to start the comparison game BUT how does Sony manage to make their devices far more water resistant yet Samsung cannot? OH and don't forget for those of us who live in hot climates its not only rain that causes the damage its also perspiration. Some guys have actually made their own wrist bands to go under the watch strap to prevent perspiration problems! Absurd for us to need to do this.
I do suggest we have a balanced and realistic review of the Gear. It simply isn't all bad and its far from perfect. Its rather clever in so many ways yet.....mmmmmm, not yet there.
Kind regards.
I love the watch, and I too have found a way to wear it and not even notice it's on my wrist.
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Software software software.... All I read is moans and groans about bloody software. They will come, this is new technology in terms of software.
The real problems are the hardware and that we can do zero about. WHO in their right minds makes a wrist watch that is only water resistant to IP55 ie splashes or minor-some contact with water. If this watch gets a soaking even in the rain it will become a brick.
The clasp. It has the most infamous type of clasp used in the watch trade. There are already threads on this very topic that I warned about when the Gear thread section opened. The sort of clasp is just totally unacceptable for a watch in this price range. The camera is great when there is no moisture on the lens, that hole at the back of the lens needs to be sealed with tape.
The idea, the concept and design are great the software will come BUT this watch may not last long enough to take advantage of further software development. Like it, love it or hate it we cannot blindly enjoy the James Bond feeling for a month or two only, There are several severe hardware features that truly should have been sorted before this came on the market. I hate having to remove this watch every time I go near water and need to immerse my hands. That clasp is already starting to show signs of not closing correctly and those who bend that tiny spigot will soon realise that that bending only resolves the problem for a short time as once we start bending that spigot it weakens the metal and eventually leads to complete clasp failure.
I, like the OP, like the concept and enjoy the experience of ownership but only to a point. I fear a number of those who crow loudly now will soon be writing here about these problems.
I do find it idiotic that some owners have returned their watch due to the lack of software! That is the least of my concerns. This is not a well developed watch. It is also very expensive here in Europe. I don't even want to start the comparison game BUT how does Sony manage to make their devices far more water resistant yet Samsung cannot? OH and don't forget for those of us who live in hot climates its not only rain that causes the damage its also perspiration. Some guys have actually made their own wrist bands to go under the watch strap to prevent perspiration problems! Absurd for us to need to do this.
I do suggest we have a balanced and realistic review of the Gear. It simply isn't all bad and its far from perfect. Its rather clever in so many ways yet.....mmmmmm, not yet there.
Kind regards.
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I disagree with your watch clasp opinion. At first I didn't think I'd like it, but to me, they implemented it well (especially with incorporating the speaker bulge). The bulge of speaker however can get annoying when resting your arm (eg typing on keyboard), but then again I usually take any watch off as even just the standard small, pin in hole type clips annoy me
I think we all agree on the lack of waterproofing and moisture issues needing improvement though...
On a side note, also don't think it's a beta product. It's a proper full release. Just they have a couple of improvements to make like any other first gen thing. First gen does not equal beta!
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Love mine, specially now that I have loaded music, videos, apps, email and text work flawlessly, added personal notifications and ringtones. Do I need to go on, this Gear is not supposed to overtake your phone but rather complement it. The apps are coming soon from the developers making this a big success for Samsung.
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I just waterproffed my gear with this ! One year waterproofed !! Easy done!
http://www.nanostate.co/
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I just waterproffed my gear with this ! One year waterproofed !! Easy done!
http://www.nanostate.co/
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Have you or anyone else done this before? I'm curious as how it works and will/does it affect the feel of the phone/watch?
I'm very paranoid about getting my Gear wet. Something like this would be great.
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Have you or anyone else done this before? I'm curious as how it works and will/does it affect the feel of the phone/watch?
I'm very paranoid about getting my Gear wet. Something like this would be great.
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Nope never used it before.. But you arent getting your gear wet when Applying it. You just make a paper towel wet with the stuff and start rubbing your Gear in with the solution . Then wipe it off with a dry cloth and tadaa you Gear in nano coated...
Will make a video when I find myself having the time.
The reason I bought this was i was paranoid too when I went to the toilet and needed to wash my hands. Now that is all gone...
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I agree, I'm really happy with my device, within the first 20 minutes of pairing it to my Note 3 I received a call while I was dressing my son and what do you know my wrist starts ringing and i took a call hands free, my note was on the kitchen bench in the other room. I didnt need to hold my wrist up to my mouth and I could hear clearly and likewise to the person on my call. I look at emails/text messages while in meetings, this feature is really handy, I dont feel as rude by looking at my watch, with one tap of the screen I can read a message. Battery life is good, I can get 2-3 days with moderate usage no problems. At the end of the day $360 for a watch that pairs with my phone is a good deal, considering how much you would pay for a half decent watch. This is something I will stick to now and in the future, for my watch.
$300 for the Gear is fine..The watch design itself is worth the $300, think about a Rolex, or other expensive watches which cost $1000+. The Gear looks just as good as the expensive watches, plus you can do more with the Gear... Much Much more.
Reviews are like Arsewholes, everyone does one, and all of them stink!! Think for yourself, if you don't like it you can always return it..
GEAR UNLEASHED!!!!
I think the main reasons for the bad reviews are the price and that it only (officially) works with the Note 3, for now.
The price doesn't bother me as much since I got Best Buy to match that 30% coupon deal. But considering about a year ago, I spent $170 on a Casio G-Shock that does nothing more than tell me the date, time, and tide tables. Big deal. Decent watches cost money, even $300 is on the lower end.
What I never understood was how these reviewers gush about the Pebble, which has zero appeal to me - and I'm a gadget freak too! The reviews frequently compare the Pebble to the Gear, which is silly because the Gear is on a whole other level! They all talk about how the Pebble has so many apps and the Gear is lacking... how long has the Gear been out, 3 weeks?? Apps will come, not at all worried about that.
I also have no idea what the reviews are talking about re: camera quality. It's like they read the 1.9 MP spec and immediately dismiss it as a crap camera. Photos looks great for what it is, I was actually amazed at how well they looked. My only complaint about the camera is that there is no official way to turn off the shutter sounds, lol.
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Pics?
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.
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Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words
I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...
I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...
I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.
The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.
A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.
Dented
In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.
Is this normal?
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Is this normal?
PS: I am using UAG plasma CASE.
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To be honest with you im not gonna throw my $1000 phone on the floor to test for you xD
But this used to happen with my Note 5, whenever it was dropped the pen would fly out like a rocket.
i guess it is kinda normal because of the push release system, the shock from the fall will eject it.
it would also happen if you swung the phone downwards, the pen would shoot out, however i have not tried this with the note 8 either
p.s (your not supposed to drop your phone)
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OMG! How often are you dropping your phone to notice this? Is the screen ok?
Truth is it's always going to based on where the impact on the phone occurred and at what height. My brother accidentally dropped his from the table onto hardwood floor. The Whitestone Dome Glass now has a hairline crack on it. But the S Pen stayed put in the device. I know a colleague who dropped her Note 5 phone and the S Pen actually shattered inside the Note. Half of it came out and the other half is wedged in there. So bottom line is be more careful and don't drop it!
Don't drop your phone?
lol Bit of a tall order that not dropping of the phone thing, I do understand the intent was probably something more along the lines of "be careful". I've dropped mine and the pen did not come out. I never had it come out on my previous Notes either although there were few tests as I was following the advice above and trying to be careful with them.
Flagship phones represent more than 2% of an average individual workers annual income. If you look at this from an angle of trying to gain perspective imagine instead you're talking about an 850 dollar laptop. Fairly average for laptop pricing and yet I treat my laptops more carefully than I do my phones which now have similar pricing. I think in my mind buying all those phones previously for much less than they now cost has the effect of making them seem to be something of lower cost in my mind although that reality is no longer correct. In other words my perception hasn't kept up with reality. Maybe it's just me but I do know I pay attention with my laptop, with my phone it's just there.
Don't drop the phone. Throw it down hard and the phone and pen will hit the floor at the same time. The pen won't have time to fall out.
Just be careful! DO NOT DROP YOUR PHONE!
The s pen poping out should be the least of your concerns
The 3 or 4 times that I've dropped my Note 5,7,8 the Spen has always popped out.
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Why are you dropping your note 8 many times are you insane
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I take it that was a rhetorical question?
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I droped the phone over the carpet, and s pen popped out too, using ruged spigen case. think rubber acts like an spring.
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well if we look at the slot, there no real "lock" in the mechanism/design itself
when we pop the s-pen its actually not the s-pen poping but rather the "spring-top-parts" that poping out so we can pull the pen
when u pull the pen there just little resistant to it
afaik the s-pen is holded by small bump in the slot
thus dropping note8 can cause s-pen to pop itself, maybe yours have slot that more loose that causing easier to pop
but other than that i think normal
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OMG! How often are you dropping your phone to notice this? Is the screen ok?
bottom line is be more careful and don't drop it!
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Why are you dropping your note 8 many times are you insane
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Just be careful! DO NOT DROP YOUR PHONE!
The s pen poping out should be the least of your concerns
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Its a phone, people not an infant, and life doesnt end when you drop a cell phone..:crying:
and yes, OP, my spen pops out the couple of times I have dropped my phone..no big deal
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Its a phone, people not an infant, and life doesnt end when you drop a cell phone..:crying:
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WHAAA??!! My brain is in there! Or I thought it was...
All kidding aside, it's an expensive investment for some. Dropping it on a continual basis means you risk eventually breaking it and if no insurance is in place, a very costly lesson in life. And the S Pen would be the least of my worries if I ever dropped it. I'd be more concerned that nothing inside got jarred or glass crack. Or worse, the pen snaps inside the Note itself. I want this thing to last at least 4 years minimum before I consider replacing it. That is my ROI expectations on the device after paying so much into it. Which also means making sure I keep it in good shape and not abuse it like a mad man. LOL
Unfortunately, in this day and age, people have become more 'wired'. I mean what's so important on the phone you still have to use it while doing your business in the john?
yes, its a major investment, and, I doubt it will last you 4 years..
that being said, considering what a major investment it is, why do people who have no idea what they are doing with it, want to root it, mod it, flash all sorts of stuff to it without knowing for certain how to fix it if they brick it?
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yes, its a major investment, and, I doubt it will last you 4 years.
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OT: my Note 2 lasted me 4.5 years when I finally decided to upgrade to the Note 8... So yeah... I expect it to last me 4 years! Well at least I hope so! LOL
LOL, may be it is better to have the screen pops out instead of S-Pen when the phone is dropped. :-o
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Unfortunately, in this day and age, people have become more 'wired'. I mean what's so important on the phone you still have to use it while doing your business in the john?
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Yeah, it'll just make you usually sit on the john longer than you need to. Then you get ring around the ass. Then there's the risk of dropping your phone in the john!
With that said, I do it too. It's multitasking! If you do it right you're saving time. Getting shi* done while taking care of your shi*. :laugh:
the one time i dropped my phone...the spen popped out as well...i don't think it's anything to worry about..
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Its a phone, people not an infant, and life doesnt end when you drop a cell phone..:crying:
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I mean, to be fair, it is a rather large investment for many users. It's not "just" a phone when taking everything into consideration. Dropping a device like this does cause a fair amount of stress for many depending on the result of that drop. It would be cool to be able to experience these drops without any stress but that's not the case for most of us. Sometimes a damaged phone (especially one as expensive as this one) can cause some real headaches, regardless of how careful we may be.
I do remember @OP, my Note 5 slipping out of my jacket pocket as I was getting out of my car at Best Buy once. S-Pen had popped out but I didn't notice it was gone until I had gotten home. I remember thinking that it may have landed under my car so I decided to go back to the parking space in the hopes that it may still be there. There was another car parked in the same spot so I looked under and sure enough the bastard was right there. It was a bit mauled up, though. Probably by other cars entering and leaving the parking spot. It wouldn't fit back into my Note 5 properly but it still worked on my display just fine.
I ended up ordering another S-Pen directly from Samsung because I couldn't trust the ones I saw on Amazon from third party sellers. Funny enough, I ended up getting the replacement S-Pen for free due to some shipping errors on Samsung's part. So this missing S-Pen had a happy ending after all. Anyway, hope you don't lose yours the next time you drop your phone.
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yes, its a major investment, and, I doubt it will last you 4 years..
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Without knowing the user in question personally I'd suggest it's difficult to cast any doubt. I still run into folks with 3-5 year old phones that are in perfect working order. I can see how that can be more common across the user space just as easily as seeing enough who can't keep units in working conditions longer than a year.
Every time my wife drops her Note 5 out the window of the car while driving her Spen falls out too. This is annoying as the Spens are really hard to find in the gravel on the side of the road.
....not really joking about that