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To be 100% honest, I don't like it as much as the Atrix 2. The build quality is on par, there's just something too....i dont know...RAZR-esque about it. I had an HTC One X in between that will be given to a coworker now, I'll stick with the AHD for the time being. It feels good in the hand, doesn't seem as prone to slipping out of it like the One X does. I'm afraid i'm going to destroy that thing by dropping it.
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The car dock was included, I walked out the door for $108 with the phone and dock. It's pretty solid, but definitely a new design from older Motorola car docks. Basically, you dock the phone, then you slide the power connector into the phone, it's a 2 part method. Not a dealbreaker, but I know i'll forget to slide the power thing over and it'll just kill my battery at some point.
The camera, while better than the Atrix 2, is still not up to my standards. The HTC is still MUCH better quality, but it's not the end of the world. What good is a great camera if I drop the HTC?
The data speeds are absolutely ridiculous, I took a few speedtests with the HTC and then the AHD back to back. I managed about 15-20 down with the HOX, and 30-40 with the AHD. THAT is awesome! So much for my 5gb data cap .
The interface is nice. I quite like what Motorola has done with "Blur" or whatever they're officially calling it these days. I somehow managed to get AT&T Messages handling my text messages, that isnt going to fly with me, I prefer the stock one. I like the swipe features of the icons/widgets on the home screens, very cool even if I don't use them often.
The screen isn't as bright as the HOX outside in direct sunlight, but i'm sure it's as good or better than the GS3. Still not a deal breaker for me. Oh, I did not have auto brightness enabled when i went outside, it is now. I may edit this after I walk outside in a bit. I do feel there is a lot of wasted bezel space, but I'm not the engineer and have no clue what's shoved underneath said wasted space.
The clock/weather/data monitor widget is cool, it actively monitors the amount of data remaining! I really like that, i've used 3.53/5GB this month, thankfully the billing cycle ends on tuesday.
All in all, I'm pleased with the purchase for now. It's a change from the Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 designs, however I don't think it reduces the build quality at all. To me it feels better built than the HTC One X, and miles better than a GS3.
I am taking pic/screenshot requests and questions for the afternoon, so go nuts.
Side-note. While i was at the store, there was a guy upgrading to an iPhone 4S and had a cracked back glass. I jokingly offered him $50 for it, so now i'm the proud new owner of a $60 (including the replacement glass) iphone 4 that will either be given to the wife to replace her dying ipod touch, or it'll show up on Craigslist in a few days and pay for my AHD and a few Abita Andygators.
Smart actions just eliminated any new for tasker or locale. This thing is great!
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Can you upload the wallpapers? I got the system dump but it doesn't seem to include the wallpapers. Thanks!
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Can you upload the wallpapers? I got the system dump but it doesn't seem to include the wallpapers. Thanks!
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Tell me where they would be and I'll get them. Not sure why, they're ugly as can be lol.
EDIT: poked and prodded, found the default one. It's a start I guess.
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picked one up as well. haven't tested outside, but inside the screen is brighter, crisper and colors more pronounced than my One X. It is especially noticeable for me in Maps and Gmail.I also emailed one of the wallpapers to myself and displayed it on the HOX side by side with the Moto. Crisper on the Moto and colors slightly more vibrant. It is a cooler screen while the One X is warmer, but I prefer how white backgrounds appear on the MAHD. We'll see how the week goes. If the battery will last me through as work day as the HOX does, then it's a keeper as I like the on screen buttons, near-stock ICS feel, etc. Camera is definitely not as good as the One X but still decent and I think I can live with that.
Noten the picture of the wallpaper, my camera focused more on the HOX so in the pic it appears slightly more crisp than the MAHD, but in person it is not.
I have too say the ATRIX HD is pretty sweet! I love the screen and the can.. low light it isn't that great but out in daytime its really good. The screen is beautiful and I love the feel and I'm getting great battery life.. few things I could change would be the home launcher.. way too much like an I phone
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few things I could change would be the home launcher.. way too much like an I phone
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What do you mean about it being too much like an iPhone? In what way, can you elaborate? Thanks!
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What do you mean about it being too much like an iPhone? In what way, can you elaborate? Thanks!
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Well you start off with one screen like an iphone, well now they have two... but you add more screens as you add more apps and widgets... and as far as i know, i might be wrong but the main screen is the far left one.. like an iphone. and you can't change it at all. i hate it. also you can't use the clock widget on another launcher without root access, or at least it wouldn't work on Nova. so yeah
but other than that i really do like the phone.
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So I went to the release event Motorola had for the Atirx HD, it was really nice they had some cool stuff to show. well during the meeting the main guy said a very interesting comment, "We had to take somethings out to make it a better price." So after the demonstration i asked the rep, so what "things" did you take out?
he said with a nervousness voice, oh nothing to big, we had to reduce the 13mp cam to a 8 and drop the 16gb to an 8gb. oh and we took out NFC.
and then he said they had a new app that works with NFC but cuz att wanted a lower price phone they took it out. i guess its going to be on the new razor.. so yeah.
that really it. but other than that don't you just love the phone?
Once you set up multiple screens, can you drag the home/main screen set by default as the first screen wherever you want it?
Glad to see some reviews and even comparisons to the HOX. By all accounts the camera is inferior. How does it stack up against the GNex?
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Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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Yup...and the development for the s3 is unbeatable, if the atrix HD had that then I would definitely switch. Oh well... I really like their UI over Samsung and HTC and the build is much better.
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Couldn't deal with the battery life and camera, took it back and exchanged for GS3. Sorry guys, i'll check back when the next Atrix pops up and see what's what. The GS3 is not perfect, niether is the HTC One X, but they're a gap bridger for me.
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I'm assuming they asked for their Vehicle Dock back? Thanks for the pics and review.
So I guess we have AT&T to blame for stripping the Atrix HD of all it's glory and what it could have been (i.e., 13 megapixels, 16gb, NFC). The question is, would you pay $199 instead of $99 for this phone if it included this stuff?
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I'm assuming they asked for their Vehicle Dock back? Thanks for the pics and review.
So I guess we have AT&T to blame for stripping the Atrix HD of all it's glory and what it could have been (i.e., 13 megapixels, 16gb, NFC). The question is, would you pay $199 instead of $99 for this phone if it included this stuff?
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If only it had 13megapixels, 16GB internals, NFC, a 4.7/4.8" screen, and Webtop, it wouldn't be a question for me. I'd get that phone in a heartbeat. But sadly.. AT&T opted it to be a budget phone.. So, no go for me. Gonna get the SGS3 instead.. A shame too. I really had high hopes for the next Atrix. A little heartbroken here. /proudownerofatrix4g
Those two things - camera and battery life - are the only things holding me back from complete satisfaction, BUT...is it really worth $150 more to get a One X or SGS III?? For me, I have to reluctantly say...maybe...we'll see if I can coax more juice out of it first (before my buyer's remorse period is over). Here's a low light picture sample, since there is a lack of those available online.
Its like I'm back in the OG Atrix forum back on its launch day. So much disappointment when everyone started leaving us for the Inspire 4G. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any devs are working on the third Atrix.
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Just ordered mine and I'm coming from the sgs2. One question how is the temp when in heavy use? Also any freezing issue. That's the problem with the sgs2
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Just ordered mine and I'm coming from the sgs2. One question how is the temp when in heavy use? Also any freezing issue. That's the problem with the sgs2
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The temp has been okay on mine, but I'm home over 90% of the time (telecommute for work) and I'm on WiFi. Some people say having it on 4G it gets a little warm.
I had mine freeze this morning after a phone call. Had to force a reboot (Power + Vol Down).
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I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
4.4.2 is soon available for the X. So expect that to come soon as Motorola seem to be shipping updates quicker than any other company out.
ROM development is low because the phone is basically vanilla Android.
Doubt anyone will get the Moto X features. Though it will be replicated, it won't be done the same as in terms of battery management and core processing.
Possibly after the Moto X stops receiving updates, we may have more than a handful of devs jumping on board.
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Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
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yeah everyone seems to love the active notifications and touchless control. I'm also not sure how much the extra cores will even matter on the Nexus 5. Most pc applications still aren't properly written to take full advantage of my 4 core computer processors.
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I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
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I decided on the Moto X with the Nexus 5 being a close runner up. My decision was based primary on the Active Notifications, MotoMaker, and (currently) fast updates. Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
If you want to be able to use your device and have your battery last throughout the day, Moto X. If you want vanilla AOSP without the Moto additions (not sure why you would), buy a developer edition.
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
Well I was in the same boat as you. I went for the Moto X because I wanted a phone that, like the iPhone, seems to have been developed around the custom cpu. The only other phone I have ever had that I miss was the Galaxy S2 with the Exynos cpu. So from my view, building a phone around a custom cpu setup should provide better overall experience. That's what I saw when I played with the demo units. I hate seeing lag on my Galaxy S4, especially since it's it's a Snapdragon 600. Plus plain Android just seems better. Forget the fancy overlays.
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I don't even own a Moto X (Galaxy S4), but I'm going to straight up tell you to buy the Moto X. Why?
- Active Notifications (actually useful; I use an app on my Galaxy S4 that is basically a clone)
- MotoMaker/Developer Edition (one or the other, not both)
- Neither have a removable battery or expandable storage, but I know from a lot of people and reviews that the Moto X FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR outlasts the Nexus 5. Yes, the Nexus 5 has the better specs on paper, but the Moto X is far more efficient and performs much better in day to day tasks than top tier devices (Galaxy S4, Note 3, etc).
- Quick updates; the Moto X got Android 4.4 right after the Nexus 5 and before the Nexus 4.
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damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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This wont' affect me one way or the other. I don't see anything really changing near term, and they've actually grown the laptop business they bought from IBM several years back, and they just bought the low end server business from IBM as well.
imma try out motox and see how it is i cant just write it off since im really curious how it works and runs. If its not for me ill just return it and just go for the nexus 5 =]
I've had both. Returned the N5 straight away. Bad feel in the had, terrible battery (with my usage pattern). Have been rocking an S4 since it came out, last few months with Google Play Edition. Recently got a Moto X and would definitely recommend it all day long over the N5. Feels so great in hand and battery is indeed excellent. It's a tradeoff in terms of screen resolution/size (doesn't make much difference, honestly) but for me I appreciate the in the hand feel.
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Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
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I have the N5 & Moto X dev and for a daily driver I choose the Moto X, because of the size, shape, battery life, & the OS "tuned" to multi processors. Yes the N5 has some better specs, & for certain users it's a preference. That said, the Moto X will serve quite well for a few years, at least. So within the next 2 years the convergence of the desktop & phone will be underway & a worthy upgrade to the Moto X will be available. If your not going directly into hacking (N5 if so), then the Moto X is very good choice.
I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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yeah the reason i've done it in the past is to remove bloatware and add functionality like tethering.
I think choosing between the N5 and Moto X is a very tough choice. I had the N4 and I love the freedom, MultiRom is a killer feature and it's very hard to let that go.
I chose the Moto X for its advertised features, the battery life, it's size (since I don't like big phones). I love AMOLED screen for the contrast, deep black and lack of backlight leakage, this is one of the best AMOLED screen I've seen in term of colors calibration, it's not extremely saturated like others. Also my impression is the Moto X is somewhat better built, the fact that it have nano coating to provide some water resistance is nice. I'm now also pleasantly surprised it have a great sounding speaker despite in the rear, it's the best sounding rear speaker from a phone I've heard.
I will eventually root my Moto X when I'm certain there are no issues that required use of warranty, but I love the touchless control and active display so I won't be going to custom rom without those features, unless there are some work around (I do use AutoVoice with Tasker). It's just that with other phones they don't have the optimized CPU or they lack AMOLED screen, so even with those third part alternatives I imagined they use up more battery. Despite my Nexus 4 having a quad core, for most tasks they aren't used (unless you install a custom kernel and tweak them). With the Moto X all the cores are better optimized and I'm guessing the language recognition and contextual cores help ease the work load when possible, so really it is more than a dualcore though I wouldn't call it "quadcore". In the end the benchmark score simply beat my Nexus 4 score, which had to be overclocked to match.
There are two things that disappointed me about the Moto X, lacks of qi charging and the headphone jack is CTIA format (I think), which means I need to use an adapter to use some headsets, this is true with some Sony phones, it bother the heck out of me. And also the lack of MultiRom, I really hope it will come to the Moto X one day though.
I think it's a really tough call, the Nexus 5 is a better device if you don't use the Moto X features and want to use custom roms or kernels. With the introduction of KitKat I mostly used stock on my Nexus with ART enabled, custom kernels is still something I desire though.
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damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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They haven't been bought out and the deal is being finalized, the us govt could step in to prevent it. I don't think I will worry too much about it, I'm just a little skeptical if the Moto X will continue to get updates and fast. Lenovo knows what they're doing, they did okay with Thinkpad and they aren't going to waste $3 billion on a brand just to ruin it. If I had a Moto G I wouldn't be worried at all since it have tons of kernels and roms.
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The language core and contextual core are for doing operations while the phone is sleeping. For example on my Galaxy S4, an "always-listening" feature would significantly impact my battery (and a lot of apps with that option will tell you this), but not with the X's low-power cores. The Snapdragon 800 also has that low-power listening core, but not lower-end CPUs (e.g. Snapdragon 600).
I'm feeling sad. Because I know my mako will soon be spreading its wings and going to a new home. My contract is up and I promised a friend who had an S4 nicked only a couple of weeks after getting it that she could have my N4 when my contract is up for renewal (I wouldn't really want anybody to be stuck with a Desire running stock 2.2...) But my real question and purpose for posting here is what do I get to replace it? I know there's an obvious answer and the Nexus 5 is probably what I'll end up with, but I thought I'd throw this out there for the advice of you lovely netizens
I've played with an N5 in the O2 shop and it really doesn't feel like much of an upgrade to the 4. I'm not particularly fond of the very generic industrial design or the in-hand feel. I'm sure given a bit of tinkering and a custom ROM it could be quite nice, but with the stock ROM on the N5 (obviously) and the modded colour profile on the N4, I actually prefer the LCD on the mako! The camera is much better on the 5, not that I use it much, and I suppose the battery life ought to be a bit better. It really didn't feel any faster but I'm sure SlimKat + over clock vs stock is not a fair comparison. It just seems silly to be stuck with a phone for 2 years which has already been made obsolete (in my mind) by this years' MWC launches and which doesn't really represent a big upgrade from the phone I have now.
So what about the S5? I've pretty much discounted it due to the fact that it's a Samsung, which means AOSP ROM support will be poor, it will suffer from SOD and probably also fry its eMMC after a few months Although I'm sure there are people willing to endure that for a removable battery and a microSD slot, I'm not one of them. Funnily enough, several of my friends who own/owned S3s have said they'll not buy another Sammy...
The Z2? Well, I guess it's likely to have good AOSP support so long as I can get my mitts on an unbranded one (no prob, I'll just renew through Carphone Warehouse) but it's also GIGANTIC and I'm not sure whether it uses the easily broken dragon trail glass and that daft easily scratched plastic outer layer like the original Z.
I presume there will be a new HTC One (two?) very soon, which has a chance of being a more reasonable size and probably better build quality than the competitors but I don't know what the situation with bootloader locking is like on current HTC Qualcomm devices? (Assuming it will be Qualcomm) After my One X debacle, I pretty much told myself I wouldn't buy another HTC but I have had many over the years which have been great so it seems mean not to forgive them for that one terrible device.
I presume LG won't be in on this round of upgrades (aside from phabletty ones) but I had considered the G2 due to its larger battery but otherwise similar hardware to the N5?
Yeah, I guess I'll just get an N5.
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You answered your own question by the end. BTW you should root your desire and flash KitKat on it.
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I would look at the lg g flex to ik its huge but the screen is pretty alsome
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Got the same problem want to replace my nexus 4 but no idea with what, also tried Nexus 5 but don't feel like update maybe the LG g2 because of bigger screen, but still don't feels like big upgrade...
LG flex is nice but ways to expensive
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If you cant wait (until nexus 6 is released), i would suggest new htc one or lg g2. Lg g2 has a great screen size, its sharp, but too saturated cartoonish colors, if you like that. Awesome battery, 5,6 hours of screen on time, great camera. it has a great devs support but its not working as smooth as nexus 5. So in order: nexus 6, new htc one, lg g2 (or nexus 5 if you really like aosp and smoothness).
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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G2 is a legit contender
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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I heard so as well.
Hardware and Price definitly make it a great Phone.
After a quick personal test I have to say coming from a Stock/Custom Rom the UI is really ugly, but there are custom Roms.
OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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So? My equally-4-year-old HTC Vision runs KitKat. I mean, sure, Apple officially released their latest OS for the iPhone 4 (and hopefully the performance will be acceptable this time) but I've never run a shipping ROM on any device I've owned since my original iPhone, anyway, so the crappy long term support of Android device manufacturers not a big deal for me. Also, there seems to be a lot of pro-Apple sentiment for long-term device support but I don't think that's a gesture of kindness or 'different' business behaviour to other manufacturers. Really, they have to keep support, since they keep crummy old devices on the market a lot longer than other manufacturers. I know a few people who still have remaining months on two year contracts with iPhone 4s, but I'm fairly certain that's not going to be the case with any Android handset which was launched around the same time.
Incidentally, I think I've settled on the G2. Given that the cost to me will be the same with an N5 or a G2, it seems silly not to go for the bigger battery, (much) contrastier screen and better camera since I'll run CM/AOSP either way. It means dealing with nasty Samsung-like glossy plastic, but given that it's already good, I'm thinking the battery life ought to be insane once all the LG OEM crap is gone
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling weirdly reminiscent about replacing my Mako... Usually I'm terribly excited to get my mitts on a new device, but this time I'm just left wondering how I'll cope if I don't like whatever I replace it with as much
I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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Azurael said:
I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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That's what we're seing in the Optimus G forum. The development follows the lead of N4, but not at the same pace. My GF has one and simply love the lg UI and the miniapps. But the device is great and stuck in the 4.1.1
There's a lot of great devs there, like XboxfanJ, and many many others doing a great job porting things out, but it's a shame that LG is failing to provide a update to any other android version. Even 4.3 would be great in that device.
I had to root my GF Optimus G just to use fstrim, because it was becoming laggy as hell. And while google is doing a magnificent job puting the Gapps avaible in the playstore, she misses some nice features, like the notifications listener, or immersive mode, but at the same time, being with the device since november of 2013 (here in brazil mid class people just have to be one generation or two behind every single eletronic stuff, because they are expensive as hell) she doesn't want to void the warranty.
The really bad thing about LG is that they launch their flagships with old android versions, update short after the relase and then go with the excuse that the device has already seen a major upgrade.
OG came with 4.0 and then was updated to 4.1
LG Flex came with 4.2
G2 came with 4.2
And that's the way they do their business.
If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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No, I literally will not buy Samsung hardware on principle. I've seen too many dead S2s, notes, S3s, etc. That is a company with zero concept of quality control, to keep releasing b0rked eMMC controllers, generation after generation. Plus, if you begin to read the CM device managers' posts on Exynos support, you see what a ****ty attitude they have for the development community, even if most current devices are Qualcomm based and a lot easier to work with. Plus I'm not and never have been enamoured with their hardware in general. Sadly, the G2 looks and feels like a Samsung, but I guess I'll have to live with that. Oh, and what good is a GPE unless you're buying your device outright? AFAIK a Nexus 5 is the only chance you have of getting a shipping 'stock' android device here on contract.
Edit: I reaslise I probably came across as a bit of an arse in this post. Sorry, Samsung make me angry. It might be worth waiting for the new HTC One but I'm fairly certain the camera will be rubbish and it still has a small screen with a massive bezel (or it's a massive device, not sure which )
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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People shouldn't tell you what to do, they can only make a suggestion. It's about what you want from your phone. If you want software optimized with hardware, get most recent updates and roll the smoothest devices on market, go with nexus line. My brother has LG g2 and with that beast of cpu and gpu, it's much slower then my nexus 4 (on both aosp rooms and lg ones). I would never buy g2 just because of that. Also Samsung devices, bloat bloat bloat, and sluggishness. I would buy n5 in no time because I want speed and fast updates, and a camera to take quick and decent pictures. Yeah battery is a little bit weak but, there are kernels for that
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Hello guys,
I'm on the verge of buying a new smartphone after being into Windows Phone for too long.
I have a N7 2013 tablet which I've been using to play around with different Custom Roms and Kernels but now it's time to ditch my low end Windows Phone smartphone and go for a medium range Android device to play around with.
The two options at the moment are: Moto G new or an used but mint condition Nexus 4 still under warranty (for another year atleast). The price tag is almost similar 170€ (MotoG) vs 200€ (N4).
Now I know the proc on the MotoG is newer and slightly faster but the N4 sports a bigger screen and more Ram which to be honest, is the decising factor here. However, since I haven't owned any of these two devices I'd like to know if the N4 is still a safe pick, and if there are any issues I should be aware of.
Thanks!
hey , first of all get your facts right .
N4 proc and GPU is way way faster than Moto G's proc and GPU ..
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-400
secondly they both share IPS grade screens , but moto g has an advantage of gorilla glass 3 , ...
thirdly , n4 has one of the best developer community , way better than moto g ..
if u are confused between n4 and moto g , definitely go for the n4 .. its better in every possible aspect
but i would suggest waiting for some newer devices from google they might not be very far from launch
N4 all the way. The Moto G is inferior in every technical aspect (it's still a good phone but if you have the $$$ get something better!). The only physical advantage of the Moto G over the N4 is that the back cover is removable so you can easily swap sim cards without having to use a PIN, if that matters to you.
I have an N5 waiting for me (relative ordered in the states, bringing it when she visits) but I will definitely keep my N4 as a backup rather than sell it like I did with previous phones. The N4 is a great phone and just too good to waste.
Another good thing about Moto G is that is more comfortable at the hand that N4 will be. But overall N4 all the way, for being a AOSP device its simple to custom roms, kernels and everything
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I would try and get a used moto x instead of the nexus
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I have both, the Nexus is faster, bigger screen, better camera, better build quality and has superior development support.
It's a obvious choice for me. ☺
First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4 since my budget is this low and the market here is overpriced compared to most places. Infact even the new market is.
The deal also includes a couple of cases, screen protectors and a bumper so it's the best choice.
Thanks all for the feedback.
Excellent choice, bro, you won't regret it.
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when i have a N4 i found the moto g better (Battery+Wireless Charging with mod+only 21Mbit)
and when i have a Moto g i found the N4 better(Dev,Gpu,Display,Glass+Wireless Charging,NFC,42Mbit Download)
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First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4
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Probably not a bad call. One yet unmentioned difference is Nexus 4 has NFC, moto g doesn't. I used to couldn't care less about that. But since I found out about Dimple (programmable, batteryless, custom placed NFC buttons), NFC actually matters to me. A lot of folks here dig the sleek buttonlessness of N4 and stuff like it, but I mostly got the phone because it was cheap at the time. I miss buttons a lot, especially for page turning in ebooks.
You never know when that tiny bit of extra functionality will turn out to be awesome. Enjoy your new phone :good:
Yeah, NFC tags at work and home are nice too. Once you start using it its hard to stop
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Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
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Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
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^^^ This especially... Deciding between the two is actually tough, my son has the Moto G 16GB GPE edition and I have the Nexus 4 16GB.
I am similar to a previous user... I am mixed and go back and forth between which I prefer. Which is better for you depends on your usage
Moto G gives you incredible battery life (5-7 hours screen time, double the N4), it's waterproof (I can't believe no one mentioned this), Gorilla Glass 3
Nexus 4 has both a faster processor and GPU, has a larger display although I don't find it superior other than size, and has NFC and wireless charging (neither of which I use).
To be honest, although the 21Mbps vs 42Mbps thing is real, in real life it makes little difference in use, same with the processor... the N4 is faster but the G is more efficient, I have noticed little difference in performance between the two.
The Nexus 4 has a tremendous development community with more options and help than you can imagine, and although the Moto G has a decent community with most major ROMs supported, it is definitely not the Nexus 4 in that regard but if it's your thing you won't be bored either.
Honestly, no mater your choice you will get a good phone that will likely last a decent amount of time.
I remember you that the Moto G has a louder Speaker than the Nexus 4.
The moto G also support USB OTG, without any special Y cable or similiar things.
By the way I'm proud to own a Nexus 4.
I own both.
Nexus 4 is a better phone, BUT the Moto G comes damn close. Considering the low price of Moto G, I'll say it's a better bargain, even the more expensive 4G version, which adds support for LTE, which is something Nexus 4 doesn't have. But off course, it depends on the prices of the phones, in the area you live.
Hey guys!
The phone is home and it's the Nexus 4 16GB in super mint condition, with a ****load of screen protectors, bumbers and good cases, you name it.
It came with tempered glass screen protector at the front and a standard screen protector at the back.
Also, LTE isn't a big thing for me. Between Univ and my place I get alot of hotspots through Fon (https://corp.fon.com/pt/microsite/nos) so not a big deal.
Everywhere I go without Internet, I bring my mobile broadband pen and a sharing dock to get wireless.
The Moto G also arrived yesterday from Amazon and it really surprised me. The stock Android with some of Motorola subtle changes really make it a good phone hardware and software wise.
The problem here in Portugal is the used market is too damn retarded. People sell phones at prices that don't make sense. You see low end mobiles being sold at the price of gold. 200€ for a N4 is like a bargain compared to the prices asked for phones like Samsung SII which goes for 150 to 200€ here. Higher end phones never go for less than 300€ and most even locked to networks. A used N5 here would go for over 350€ eventhough the Playstore in Portugal has it at 349€. Yes, people are this retarded because all they care is how much they payed for the phone when they bought it and not the current new prices and the current options. How can you sell a crap phone at 150€ if for 170€ I can get a Moto G. Xiaomi's and other decent Quad cores from Amazon? Well...
Never the less, I'm happy with my choice.
Next step = Unlock Bootloader, Root and get some action going.
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Excelente compra, não te esqueças de aderir à comunidade Nexus Portugal no Google+.
Excellent buy.
Edit: decision made, no Nexus 6 for me, it's too big, expensive and ugly immo, just ordered a brand new Nexus 5 from Amazon for €300. ☺
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As suspected for a few months, we will probably have a 6" Nexus phone coming this fall.
As a Nexus 4 user i am reluctant to start using a 6" phone, but being a Nexus user since the Nexus One, and after talking to a few friends with the Note i am inclined to take a leap of faith.
What do you guy's think, let's post a few pros and cons so we all can make an informed buy.
Pros:
Better browsing and youtube experience;
Stop carrying a tablet;
Possible massive battery.
Cons:
It won't fit all pockets;
Two hands usage;
Possible weight.
PS: let's skip the 5.2" vs 6" as it probably won't be happening.
I'm ready for the switch
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I'm ready for the switch
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you forgot a unique con which plagues all nexus phones ....**** battery
HYPE.
I'm just waiting for it to be real and purchaseable.
I'm waiting for a Moto Nexus since Google bought Moto back in 2011! (and they do it after selling it to Lenovo lol)
Will buy day 1 regardless of its dimension! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Not going near any 6inch device, no matter if its called Nexus.
I prefer to have a tablet at 10 inch.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4
Nexus 6 should be max 5.5... 6 inches smart phone is useless, According to me
Nope. As much as I love the nexus line, that is just way too damn big for me. If I can't operate it one handed, I don't want it. If anything, I plan to finally move up to the Nexus 5, and the's max size I want in a phone. Any bigger and I say "thanks, but no thanks."
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you forgot a unique con which plagues all nexus phones ....**** battery
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According to all the rumors, the Nexus 6 will have a 3200+ mAh battery, i just hope the QHD display won't eat it too fast...
Way to big. Ordered a meizu mx4. Mostly for the camera. I still think that maybe to big.
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To me, N4 is a phone and N6 is not. 5.9" is just crazy, who knows, maybe Google brings something in normal screen size (5" or less) alongside N6.
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As suspected for a few months, we will probably have a 6" Nexus phone coming this fall.
As a Nexus 4 user i am reluctant to start using a 6" phone, but being a Nexus user since the Nexus One, and after talking to a few friends with the Note i am inclined to take a leap of faith.
What do you guy's think, let's post a few pros and cons so we all can make an informed buy.
Pros:
Better browsing and youtube experience;
Stop caring a tablet;
Possible massive battery.
Cons:
It won't fit all pockets;
Two hands usage;
Possible weight.
PS: let's skip the 5.2" vs 6" as it probably won't be happening.
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Pro's: performance (good enough for a couple of years, looking at the specs). Oh, and 4G in Europe.
Con's: size. A big screen sounds great, but portability and one-handed use.
Looks like the terminal will have excellent processing power and RAM plus a big battery so it'll be good for a couple of years, but like everyone else - will this thing fit in a trouser pocket and can it be used 1-handed?
That last point may well force the UI to offer options so that eg status bar can be positioned at the bottom/navbar on the bottom left or right (just saying). But it's a big piece of kit....
This thing doesn't even fit my backpack.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
I was ready for the switch, couldn't wait...but if the N6 is really gonna be that big I don't think I will buy it. It's too much of a jump from the N4 in terms of size.
If Google really comes out with just the 6 inches version, I think I will choose between the MotoX and the G3. Or maybe even an N5 if I will find one.
I actually think I'm gonna skip this one. As European guy I couldn't picture the size in inches(do it America, I beg you, switch to metric system like the rest of the world! ). Now seeing the two in comparison I must say that it's way too big for me. Nexus 4 is just about the right size, fits in the hand, you can control it with 1 hand. I never found myself wanting a tablet or phablet for that matter. It's phone, laptop or desktop pc for me. I like the keyboard very much to give it up
I'm definitely up for a bigger phone. My Nexus 4 is the biggest phone I've owned, and I'd love a big phablet to use at home for gaming and reading eBooks, and for traveling when I don't want to lug around my laptop. Obviously, I'll be keeping my Nexus 4 to use when I don't want a gigantic slab in my pocket (I want a Sony Z3 Compact for that, but that's several months away for me).
Maybe I'll even pick up a Nexus 5 when the price drops because the 6 is out.
One thing I'm wondering about the Nexus 6 is that, if it comes running Android L out of box, will we be able to "downgrade" it to 4.4.4 KitKat? Obviously, with previous Nexus phones, downgrading to a version prior to its release made no sense, but for those of us that love what the Xposed framework can do for us, I have a feeling 4.4.4 will be ported to the Nexus 6.
Rumor is there'll be a 32GB version for $419USD, and 64GB for $449. If that turns out to be the case, I'm only about $100-150 short of affording the 64GB, which I should be able to save by the time it's available in November.
If the phone does turn out to be 5.9" like most people suspect then I'm out.
I'll be a little disappointed as I was hoping to go from my N4 to an N6 but that screen is FAR too big. It's near enough phablet size and I want a phone not a phablet.
I'll probably just pick up an LG G2 instead. 5.2" is the perfect sized screen IMO.
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I was ready for the switch, couldn't wait...but if the N6 is really gonna be that big I don't think I will buy it. It's too much of a jump from the N4 in terms of size.
If Google really comes out with just the 6 inches version, I think I will choose between the MotoX and the G3. Or maybe even an N5 if I will find one.
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The G3 and MotoX are also my other options but i'm waiting for the price. If the Nexus 6 arrives with a decent price it's a hard choice.
Looks like the next Nexus won't be inheriting the good looks of the GNex/N4/N5 (mostly N4 lol). That's it, i'm out. Can always flash an AOSP Rom on a phone if I want the Nexii feel again.
I will switch when it comes down in price from Fido
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Looks like the next Nexus won't be inheriting the good looks of the GNex/N4/N5 (mostly N4 lol). That's it, i'm out. Can always flash an AOSP Rom on a phone if I want the Nexii feel again.
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You won't get the same experience even on AOSP, had a Galaxy S2 running CM and sold it after two months.
Lot's of bugs and frustration.