Replacing mako... - Nexus 4 General

I'm feeling sad. Because I know my mako will soon be spreading its wings and going to a new home. My contract is up and I promised a friend who had an S4 nicked only a couple of weeks after getting it that she could have my N4 when my contract is up for renewal (I wouldn't really want anybody to be stuck with a Desire running stock 2.2...) But my real question and purpose for posting here is what do I get to replace it? I know there's an obvious answer and the Nexus 5 is probably what I'll end up with, but I thought I'd throw this out there for the advice of you lovely netizens
I've played with an N5 in the O2 shop and it really doesn't feel like much of an upgrade to the 4. I'm not particularly fond of the very generic industrial design or the in-hand feel. I'm sure given a bit of tinkering and a custom ROM it could be quite nice, but with the stock ROM on the N5 (obviously) and the modded colour profile on the N4, I actually prefer the LCD on the mako! The camera is much better on the 5, not that I use it much, and I suppose the battery life ought to be a bit better. It really didn't feel any faster but I'm sure SlimKat + over clock vs stock is not a fair comparison. It just seems silly to be stuck with a phone for 2 years which has already been made obsolete (in my mind) by this years' MWC launches and which doesn't really represent a big upgrade from the phone I have now.
So what about the S5? I've pretty much discounted it due to the fact that it's a Samsung, which means AOSP ROM support will be poor, it will suffer from SOD and probably also fry its eMMC after a few months Although I'm sure there are people willing to endure that for a removable battery and a microSD slot, I'm not one of them. Funnily enough, several of my friends who own/owned S3s have said they'll not buy another Sammy...
The Z2? Well, I guess it's likely to have good AOSP support so long as I can get my mitts on an unbranded one (no prob, I'll just renew through Carphone Warehouse) but it's also GIGANTIC and I'm not sure whether it uses the easily broken dragon trail glass and that daft easily scratched plastic outer layer like the original Z.
I presume there will be a new HTC One (two?) very soon, which has a chance of being a more reasonable size and probably better build quality than the competitors but I don't know what the situation with bootloader locking is like on current HTC Qualcomm devices? (Assuming it will be Qualcomm) After my One X debacle, I pretty much told myself I wouldn't buy another HTC but I have had many over the years which have been great so it seems mean not to forgive them for that one terrible device.
I presume LG won't be in on this round of upgrades (aside from phabletty ones) but I had considered the G2 due to its larger battery but otherwise similar hardware to the N5?
Yeah, I guess I'll just get an N5.
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You answered your own question by the end. BTW you should root your desire and flash KitKat on it.
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I would look at the lg g flex to ik its huge but the screen is pretty alsome
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Got the same problem want to replace my nexus 4 but no idea with what, also tried Nexus 5 but don't feel like update maybe the LG g2 because of bigger screen, but still don't feels like big upgrade...
LG flex is nice but ways to expensive
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If you cant wait (until nexus 6 is released), i would suggest new htc one or lg g2. Lg g2 has a great screen size, its sharp, but too saturated cartoonish colors, if you like that. Awesome battery, 5,6 hours of screen on time, great camera. it has a great devs support but its not working as smooth as nexus 5. So in order: nexus 6, new htc one, lg g2 (or nexus 5 if you really like aosp and smoothness).
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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G2 is a legit contender
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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I heard so as well.
Hardware and Price definitly make it a great Phone.
After a quick personal test I have to say coming from a Stock/Custom Rom the UI is really ugly, but there are custom Roms.

OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?

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OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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So? My equally-4-year-old HTC Vision runs KitKat. I mean, sure, Apple officially released their latest OS for the iPhone 4 (and hopefully the performance will be acceptable this time) but I've never run a shipping ROM on any device I've owned since my original iPhone, anyway, so the crappy long term support of Android device manufacturers not a big deal for me. Also, there seems to be a lot of pro-Apple sentiment for long-term device support but I don't think that's a gesture of kindness or 'different' business behaviour to other manufacturers. Really, they have to keep support, since they keep crummy old devices on the market a lot longer than other manufacturers. I know a few people who still have remaining months on two year contracts with iPhone 4s, but I'm fairly certain that's not going to be the case with any Android handset which was launched around the same time.
Incidentally, I think I've settled on the G2. Given that the cost to me will be the same with an N5 or a G2, it seems silly not to go for the bigger battery, (much) contrastier screen and better camera since I'll run CM/AOSP either way. It means dealing with nasty Samsung-like glossy plastic, but given that it's already good, I'm thinking the battery life ought to be insane once all the LG OEM crap is gone
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
Nexus 4, PA 4.4.2
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling weirdly reminiscent about replacing my Mako... Usually I'm terribly excited to get my mitts on a new device, but this time I'm just left wondering how I'll cope if I don't like whatever I replace it with as much

I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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prog19 said:
I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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Azurael said:
I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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That's what we're seing in the Optimus G forum. The development follows the lead of N4, but not at the same pace. My GF has one and simply love the lg UI and the miniapps. But the device is great and stuck in the 4.1.1
There's a lot of great devs there, like XboxfanJ, and many many others doing a great job porting things out, but it's a shame that LG is failing to provide a update to any other android version. Even 4.3 would be great in that device.
I had to root my GF Optimus G just to use fstrim, because it was becoming laggy as hell. And while google is doing a magnificent job puting the Gapps avaible in the playstore, she misses some nice features, like the notifications listener, or immersive mode, but at the same time, being with the device since november of 2013 (here in brazil mid class people just have to be one generation or two behind every single eletronic stuff, because they are expensive as hell) she doesn't want to void the warranty.
The really bad thing about LG is that they launch their flagships with old android versions, update short after the relase and then go with the excuse that the device has already seen a major upgrade.
OG came with 4.0 and then was updated to 4.1
LG Flex came with 4.2
G2 came with 4.2
And that's the way they do their business.

If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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Connor Baker said:
If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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No, I literally will not buy Samsung hardware on principle. I've seen too many dead S2s, notes, S3s, etc. That is a company with zero concept of quality control, to keep releasing b0rked eMMC controllers, generation after generation. Plus, if you begin to read the CM device managers' posts on Exynos support, you see what a ****ty attitude they have for the development community, even if most current devices are Qualcomm based and a lot easier to work with. Plus I'm not and never have been enamoured with their hardware in general. Sadly, the G2 looks and feels like a Samsung, but I guess I'll have to live with that. Oh, and what good is a GPE unless you're buying your device outright? AFAIK a Nexus 5 is the only chance you have of getting a shipping 'stock' android device here on contract.
Edit: I reaslise I probably came across as a bit of an arse in this post. Sorry, Samsung make me angry. It might be worth waiting for the new HTC One but I'm fairly certain the camera will be rubbish and it still has a small screen with a massive bezel (or it's a massive device, not sure which )
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.

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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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People shouldn't tell you what to do, they can only make a suggestion. It's about what you want from your phone. If you want software optimized with hardware, get most recent updates and roll the smoothest devices on market, go with nexus line. My brother has LG g2 and with that beast of cpu and gpu, it's much slower then my nexus 4 (on both aosp rooms and lg ones). I would never buy g2 just because of that. Also Samsung devices, bloat bloat bloat, and sluggishness. I would buy n5 in no time because I want speed and fast updates, and a camera to take quick and decent pictures. Yeah battery is a little bit weak but, there are kernels for that
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Opinion on this phone from an LG hater

I've absolutely bashed LG for every phone they made because in all honesty, theyre crap. They are horrible cell phone manufacturers and they should stick to TV's.
After seeing the Optimus4X I was pretty impressed, but it was an LG so I wouldnt buy it anyways.
Then I saw the Optimus G. Hmmmmm theyre getting somewhere, the specs are there and the phone actually looks nice. But its STILL an LG.
Then the Nexus 4....holy cow this thing is amazing. PRICE, specs, build quality (that i can tell from videos)
But its an LG...........
IDC
The fact that it doesnt have LTE or a removable battery or expandable storage was nothing new. They had already said that it was not going to happen. Except for the LTE I mean. Thats not that important. Only ATT is a GSM carrier with LTE right now and they hardly have any. So pretty much no one cares..
BUT ITS AN LG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could just care less. Maybe they had to use them to keep the price down. Its ok Google. With that firepower, it could be a ZTE or something crappy like that and I would still buy it. Put a case over it and cover that branding LOL.
But all in all, how can you hate a phone this cheap with these specs from Google?
If you do, im sorry but go away. go buy an iphonecrap
I was literally about to pay full price for a galaxynote2. but then this was announced.
I can buy 2 of these if i want for the same money.
Enjoy the phones my friends. I will.
(if you dont go away)
uhh... WHAT!?
As long as its not a kyocera, I'm good with it
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Yeah....it looks nice but I'm going to hold off gushing praise until we know it can deliver all that s4 pro performance without overheating and choking down all the battery.
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LGs typically sucked because of the horrible software builds. This being a nexus pretty much eliminates that big issue.
The s4 pro has great battery. The optimus g gets 8 hours screen on. The issue is the prerelease software the reviewers got. Expect the final version to do similar if not better the optimus g.
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kcls said:
As long as its not a kyocera, I'm good with it
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Hahaha LmAO I have to agree ROFL
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I'm in the same boat, always bashed LG ever since I recommended the original LG Optimus (A budget phone when it came out) to two friends and never heard the end of it.. apps were crashing without reason, the whole phone would lag up randomly and it was just chaos, I ended up installing CM7 on them both and it stopped some but not all problems.
I didn't even pay attention to the LG market up until recently, I thought well if it's LG then it will have a childish UI and be built for idiots. Wow was I wrong with this one. I haven't been this impressed with the design of a phone since I got my iPhone 4 on launch day. The iPhone 4, if anyone remembers is the only iPhone that I actually appreciate because it was completely different and built to look good while remain more powerful than the competition at the time.
I am going to buy the Nexus 4 as soon as I can and hope that it's just as good as the hype makes it out to be, I've already found a buyer for my S3 i9300 (not LTE version) for a cool $400 which gives me enough money to get the 16GB for $399 here in Australia and only spend $20 on shipping. But if it's anything like the original Optimus, this phone will be finding a place in a drawer and I'll go back to Samsung, Exynos sources/documentation or not.
TL;DR This phone better be good or else my newly regained faith in LG will diminish as quickly as it came.
/rant
Cool story bro
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DarkRyoushii said:
I'm in the same boat, always bashed LG ever since I recommended the original LG Optimus (A budget phone when it came out) to two friends and never heard the end of it.. apps were crashing without reason, the whole phone would lag up randomly and it was just chaos, I ended up installing CM7 on them both and it stopped some but not all problems.
I didn't even pay attention to the LG market up until recently, I thought well if it's LG then it will have a childish UI and be built for idiots. Wow was I wrong with this one. I haven't been this impressed with the design of a phone since I got my iPhone 4 on launch day. The iPhone 4, if anyone remembers is the only iPhone that I actually appreciate because it was completely different and built to look good while remain more powerful than the competition at the time.
I am going to buy the Nexus 4 as soon as I can and hope that it's just as good as the hype makes it out to be, I've already found a buyer for my S3 i9300 (not LTE version) for a cool $400 which gives me enough money to get the 16GB for $399 here in Australia and only spend $20 on shipping. But if it's anything like the original Optimus, this phone will be finding a place in a drawer and I'll go back to Samsung, Exynos sources/documentation or not.
TL;DR This phone better be good or else my newly regained faith in LG will diminish as quickly as it came.
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I'm still using my LG Optimus. It's been the most reliable phone I've had. I've thrown this thing, quite literally, across rooms before, and it's 2 years old and I've yet to put a single scratch on it. Development has been amazing, I'm currently running a completely stable CM9 on it, and there is MIUI, AOKP, CM10, CM7, CNA, you name it, that are all slightly less stable. It might not be the best phone in the world, but it's good. My phone before this was a non-android LG phone, and it was pretty solid too. Software sucked (it was a feature phone. All software sucked for them lol) but once again, the build quality was solid. So far, I've only had good experience with LG Phones, and I'm guessing this Nexus will be a fine addition.
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Thanks for your opinion on a phone you only saw pictures of. So comforting coming from a guy that admits to being biased easily.
Oh and BTW... just to help you with electronics... LG produces ****ty TVs...
does this phone support micro sd card?
No but I hear people are fine with that since it has 128gb internal memory, LTE and a reinforced aluminum back and dual removable battery
even i hate lg but the nexus 4 is amazing!! i hated lg for its late updates , ugly firmware...
This hardly needs a thread of its own mate, come on.
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Make me feel good about Nexus 4 again

Hello Dear Nexus 4 owners and friends,
Holiday greetings. I am finding it so difficult to stay satisfied with my Nexus 4. With all the great deals this past weekend and then the Moto X (Android Central Phone Of The Year) for only $350 Wednesday and next Monday I just am having identity issues with my current phone. I mean it "feels" fast enough, I get GREAT battery life, I've got KitKat, and mods.... I just want more. My ideal phone is the LG G2 but thanks to good ole T-Mobile's un-carrier foolishness I can't get one for free with a contract or upgrade anymore. The Moto X seems nice but it's got the same size screen and the camera appears so so.... I don't want so so... I've already got that... I want bad a$$ blow your mind fast with awesome camera and a solid battery life to boot.... Then at the end of the day I think overall My Nexus 4 has been good to me today. It easily gets 14 - 15 hours battery life with 3+ hours screen on time... Plays games fast... I think if it only had a slightly better screen and camera I would be happy... Anyone else going through this during this festive shopping season?
Thanks folks!
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Well, you have listed all the best things about nexus 4 there and to add, active development support from this community. If you're still unhappy about it then buy a new phone. LG G2 seems to be a good choice if battery life and camera is what you're after. Nexus 5 is good too though I'm not sure about its battery life.
If your not satisfied with ur nexus 4 then go upgrade
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arffrhn said:
Well, you have listed all the best things about nexus 4 there and to add, active development support from this community. If you're still unhappy about it then buy a new phone. LG G2 seems to be a good choice if battery life and camera is what you're after. Nexus 5 is good too though I'm not sure about its battery life.
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My brother owns a n5 and battery life is much better than mine. I undervolt, underclock, etc and he just... owns a stock n5
GF has the LG G2 and its a nice phone. wish development was more active for it. soooo wanna put CM or whatever on it. im not a big fan of the UI, but she loves it. Mind you shes an ex-craPhone user. Imo its a good phone on looks, battery, and features. i love my N4(miss my Gnex as well). its a great phone and lovethe development going for it. yea camera is eh, but i dont take that much pics. enjoy the nexusness about it. dislike the rear glass back(gf dropped it out of my hands while taking my car keys. thank god for my slip on case). only thing i want is a bigger SD. the G2 come with a 32gb SD from tmobile and the N4's 16gb makes me cry knowing that i have 2gb of space left. If you like the stock feel of android, pick between the Moto X or the N5. If you want a new phone with something different you got the G2. have you checked out sony's new baby yet? step-padre has one and its a nice phone.
Got a nexus 5, it doesn't feel as premium as the 4 does with its curved glass and solid feel.
Battery wise, I only use 2g with data off and WiFi only, my nexus 4 edges it.
You're having issues with yourself, not with the phone. Get a psychiatrist.
Well I just learned that with the t-mobiles uncarrier plan and with the jump thing every 6 months when you trade your phone in they squash whatever you owe on your phone and let you upgrade to the next one without a penalty.
So I'm not sure I'd exactly call it foolishness. I think the LG G2 is 0 down right now and 17 a month. . . you can either keep it longer or trade it in at 6 months...
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i think that anything that is not nexus can't be considered an ANDROID phone, so I'll stay with n4 because the n5 doesn't offer anithing that can justify the deal.
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Well I just learned that with the t-mobiles uncarrier plan and with the jump thing every 6 months when you trade your phone in they squash whatever you owe on your phone and let you upgrade to the next one without a penalty.
So I'm not sure I'd exactly call it foolishness. I think the LG G2 is 0 down right now and 17 a month. . . you can either keep it longer or trade it in at 6 months...
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I think 17 is AT&T G2?
"Jump" is a way to generate more revenue out of customers...
Current price of T-mobile LG G2 is 24 a month(never seen it drop to 17, the most is 50 off- 0 down) 10+24+taxes add up to about 37 a month...
You would be constantly paying more after 6 months ($10 jump fee plus the monthly payment on the new phone or existing phone.)
I bought a like new LG G2 for $450 total 2 months after manufacturing date.
I think it's a good deal...
Honestly I really love the Nexus 4. If I had T-Mobile coverage at home, I would not have to upgrade. However Nexus 4 does not Wifi-calling which I realize I really need when I'm at home. The camera and faster CPU are added benefits. However Nexus 4 seriously is fast enough to me and the LTE is nice when I go out. I was planning to switch to AT&T for a free phone and better signal but their 25% price increase forced me to drop the idea.
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You're having issues with yourself, not with the phone. Get a psychiatrist.
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The typical insecure response expected from a noob. Grow up kiddo.
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You're having issues with yourself, not with the phone. Get a psychiatrist.
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Got to agree here, its just a phone for God's sake. You want a faster better phone? Then what? A better faster phone? Then another? Save some money and take up meditation or something before its too late!
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Well for me other factors to consider is that I'm broke.... Lol. To get a new phone outright I would probably have to sell my Nexus 4 and 2012 Nexus 7 tablet. I'm already paying $20 a month on my wife's Galaxy S4. So I don't wanna up my cell phone bill yet another 15-20 dollars a month for my phone. I guess I just get bored easily. Lol. Had the HD2, Then Galax S2, now my Nexus 4...i just get bored and wanna check out new stuff. At one point I said "The Nexus 4 is gonna be my last phone"..... Guess not.. I will probably figure out something after the new year. I can make more changes with my TMO plan in January. I don't wanna just run out and buy a Moto X because it's the cheapest... Don't really wanna settle.
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Im drooling over an HTC One.. but i can resist and hold on to my S3 and N4
Yeam it makes me feel good about Nexus 4 when I see Nexus 5 with his problem...
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Yeam it makes me feel good about Nexus 4 when I see Nexus 5 with his problem...
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Look it makes a G
how convenient
I'm just gonna sit here with nexus 4 and await the new camera apis to come out. Really don't think anything out right now is worth buying to upgrade from the n4.
I don't mean nothing I better but nothing is going to be worth the money to outright buy vs the slight gains I might get
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Feel good about Nexus 4 again? Still loving my N4! 4 Reasons below!
1) NEXUS 5 PORT 4.4 KRT16S odexed 26/11/2013 Fully merged with MAKO binaries
2) Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik libraries from MOTOX 4.4
3) 36dpi nav bar
4) KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r197
The Voice activated Google Now! Alone makes it worth its wait in gold for me when driving and need to send email or SMS! The N4 is still a great phone! Yeah would love the N5! But not got the funds or the inclination to replace a device that has not once shown, its not up to the task it is set! My Wife has the Galaxy Nexus! Another great phone that is still performing for what she needs and its her i will be upgrading first to the N5. Think too many people get side lined by the speed of how quickly our phones are surpassed with newer and shiny models! Its like the camera on phones! What do people expect? Your not going to take your wedding photos using your phone! My phone is and always will be a tool! Not a fashion accessory otherwise i would have bought into the iOS crowd (Mac user so not Anti-Apple). The N4 is still performing and with the great Dev's on XDA don't really see me getting bored anytime soon!
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I think 17 is AT&T G2?
"Jump" is a way to generate more revenue out of customers...
Current price of T-mobile LG G2 is 24 a month(never seen it drop to 17, the most is 50 off- 0 down) 10+24+taxes add up to about 37 a month...
You would be constantly paying more after 6 months ($10 jump fee plus the monthly payment on the new phone or existing phone.)
I bought a like new LG G2 for $450 total 2 months after manufacturing date.
I think it's a good deal...
Honestly I really love the Nexus 4. If I had T-Mobile coverage at home, I would not have to upgrade. However Nexus 4 does not Wifi-calling which I realize I really need when I'm at home. The camera and faster CPU are added benefits. However Nexus 4 seriously is fast enough to me and the LTE is nice when I go out. I was planning to switch to AT&T for a free phone and better signal but their 25% price increase forced me to drop the idea.
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Oh I didn't realize that that wasn't the price. I called yesterday about looking at an upgrade and was offered 0 down and 17 a month on a GTO and on a nexus 5. Maybe those were just holiday deals or something. Also I don't ever talk to regular customer service I always go straight to the I want to close my account department.
To me its not a bad deal though that means every 6 months at that price I'm spending about 120$ .. and get a new device.
However all of that said in understood I'm not looking to go from my Nexus 4 for a while. I'm running a stock kitLat rooted with faux kernel and love it.
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It's a freaking phone, it's not supposed to replace your wife. Just do something else when you're bored with it. But it's your money, if you can afford another phone, go for it.
I have been down this path before, getting a new phone like every month. But with the unlimited customization I can do with the Nexus I couldn't get bored with it. I love the speed of KitKat with ART, I don't even feel the need to get a Nexus 5 yet. I can't see myself dealing with TouchWiz, Sense or any other third party bloated UIs again. If I have the urge to, I can install skins or theme it, just take a look at what people can do in this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990251
The fun with Nexus devices is the tinkering and hacking you can do with it, without losing a large chunk of your wallet. If you just want the latest, greatest and fastest, you will be chasing an endless target.
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Feel good about Nexus 4 again? Still loving my N4! 4 Reasons below!
1) NEXUS 5 PORT 4.4 KRT16S odexed 26/11/2013 Fully merged with MAKO binaries
2) Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik libraries from MOTOX 4.4
3) 36dpi nav bar
4) KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r197
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My reasons:
-Fully working sweep2wake and sleep with NEO kernel, LG G2's knock knock feature got nothing on this.
-Faux color and sound kernel features
-PSX rom (I'm normally not convinced by roms that claim to be fast, but this is clearly fast translated to real experience, not just benchmarks. Just hope it'll continue to be supported in some form at xda.)
-The vast amount of roms and their features.
-And the number one reason: MultiRom

Dont you think this phone got old too fast?

Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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Yep
I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates
The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.
I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
greece-for-ever said:
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!
i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
Maczuga said:
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
Maczuga said:
Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
Maczuga said:
In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...
Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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on the fence with Nexus 5

I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
I also wanted to wait for the bed Nexus 6, and it was a pain with my HTC one s. As soon as I heard the rumors I ran and got the Nexus 5 and it's awesome, don't regret it a bit.
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I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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I just bought a 7 month old Nexus 5. For 5 reasons...
I'm upgrading from a HTC Desire (Bravo)
I've got a Nexus 7 with CM on and I love it
My friend has a N5 with stock ROM on and loves his phone
I'm heavy handed with my phones and want performance for price
I like the all black look Slimkat will offer with the bezel
On the above, I almost waited until the G3 came out, but I am very excited to receive my N5 tomorrow
Also, my desire has CM installed too.
No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
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No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
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Ur comparing a new flagship with a 5year -flagship- in the rate technology is going this is the least u can get
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I'll take that as an offense especially given the way you express your feelings.
Also, no offense but If you didn't read what I wrote, don't bother replying
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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sorry, but if you're waiting around for the latest and greatest, you'll never be able to buy anything... the "next" device will always be better than the current one.
Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
http://oneplus.net/one
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Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
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I know the N5 gets the fastest updates, just saying this last one took a while and fixed almost nothing. Rumors that Nexus line is done and we have no idea when/if Silver is coming out and what the cost details will be. Oneplus one is taking forever to come out but the specs are great, price is right and CM should also have a fast update schedule.
I'll sell you my N5 with a flip wake case and spigen shell case for cheap. I love the nexus 5 but I have a nexus 4 back up phone and think I might get the moto x on sale today..
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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You can't be serious.
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The last update was a POINT release, not a feature release. It addressed some bugs that some people had, and not much more. That's what it was supposed to do. It didn't come out when you wanted it? Tough. Use something else, then talk to me about updates, available roms, support, etc.... you'll come running back. <the grass is always greener on the other side syndrome>
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KJ said:
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I agree. If the next gen phone was 8 cores/4gb ram/64bit and affordable, then yeah, wait. But that won't happen. As said, the N5 will be a force to reckon with for some time. It still has near-top specs and is $349. Nothing can touch it. With 4.4.3 and running ART, I would speedtest my phone against any stock phone confidently in real world examples. You are splitting hairs these days between phones until the TRUE next gen phone comes out. And even then, it will come with a big price.
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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andino said:
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
Apparently, the Nexus 6 has been halted and instead, they are working on "Android Silver". Maybe they are going to turn the Nexus 6 into something that will go head to head with HTC's and Samsungs heavyweights (HTC One M9 and Galaxy S6).
Some of the specs I read(reportedly) about the Nexus 6 were stunning. Hopefully it's still in production for a fall 2014 release. But I wont be surprised if it's delayed because of their interest for Android Silver
I hope this year's Google io will have some news regarding nexus 6. If not, I'll probably go ahead and acquire nexus 5
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
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Yeah I have the same thing with signal with mine. What network are you using. I'm on Tmo and it tends to do this pretty often with my Z1 as well.
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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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Actually it isn't. The only subjective part about it is that there are people who can't get a good shot even if you hand them a DSLR. IMO, nexus 5's camera is among top 5 android phone cameras.
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Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?

I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.
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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.
I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.
japmeet said:
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
wolfen69 said:
I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there
Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.
I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...
Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.
I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?
I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.
I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family
I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.
I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.

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