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Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
The viewing angles really aren't the best but the screen itself when you look straight at it is pretty good in my opinion.
But thanks for your 2 cents!
You should sell it to me for a good price
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The viewing angles really aren't the best but the screen itself when you look straight at it is pretty good in my opinion.
But thanks for your 2 cents!
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Yes, with the custom rom that I installed the colors improved a lot, but the viewing angles remained terrible! what I really dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the optimus G right? the OG had GREAT viewing angles! how can this be??
On principle I too think the viewing angles are unacceptable....I was shocked when I saw them really. Reviews seemed to gloss over them and some had the nerve to say they were good. lulz No.
With all that being said when I wasn't testing the viewing angles and just used the phone as I normally world, the screen looked good, if not a little washed out.
I only had it for a day then sold it.
So yeah, they suck when you look for them but straight on as I imagine most use thier phone, its all good.
I have a Note 2 but still tempted to have stock goodness along side. How much are you selling yours for out of curiosity?
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ferrojasaguilar said:
Yes, with the custom rom that I installed the colors improved a lot, but the viewing angles remained terrible! what I really dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the optimus G right? the OG had GREAT viewing angles! how can this be??
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Well ... All i can say is.
Price will not lie ...
Got 2 release ones here. Lovely screens, best ive ever had with great viewing angles.
Guess LG changed production after losing too much money.
Definitely worse than my mytouch 3g.
In all seriousness, its a $300 phone, so you get what u pay for. viewing angle is not a problem with me if I look at it from straight ahead, and there's utilities to change the color and gamma.
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Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
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Sorry to burst bubble but any phone made by samsung is not high end...expensive doesnt mean high end...and I wouldnt consider 5 to be many also..
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ferris2375 said:
On principle I too think the viewing angles are unacceptable....I was shocked when I saw them really. Reviews seemed to gloss over them and some had the nerve to say they were good. lulz No.
With all that being said when I wasn't testing the viewing angles and just used the phone as I normally world, the screen looked good, if not a little washed out.
I only had it for a day then sold it.
So yeah, they suck when you look for them but straight on as I imagine most use thier phone, its all good.
I have a Note 2 but still tempted to have stock goodness along side. How much are you selling yours for out of curiosity?
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Wanna trade?? LOL
pak-stars said:
Sorry to burst bubble but any phone made by samsung is not high end...expensive doesnt mean high end...and I wouldnt consider 5 to be many also..
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Well i have a Droid Dna, i had an iphone 5... Are those high end enough for you? Every one of those destroys the nexus 4 screen. Thats MY opinion.
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Well ive owned many high end Android devices like the Gnex, GS3, HOX, Note 2, Optimus G and just last week I had the oportunity to get the Nexus 4 for a trully great price so I went for it. After reading all about it on the web, I was very anxious to get my hands on it and when I finally did... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT! let me elaborate...
The device build quality and design is great, I really like the form factor, materials used, overall design. The clean Android OS is superb, and something that other manufacturers should copy instead of giving us all sort of useless bloatware...
Now to the screen.... that GOD-AWFUL-SCREEN.! I cant beleive that a high end device like this has such a poor screen! out of the box the colors are so washed out and dull, the viewing angles are also terrible. I went to google and did a little research and finally installed some roms with calibrated screen settings and the colors definetely improved, but the viewing angles did not, even if you tilt the screen a little bit to the left or to the right the blacks become white (like my cheapo $25- candybar motorola phone). I find this totally unaceptable and going to sell this ASAP. Its really a pitty, because I was so looking forward to getting this phone. But in my case the screen is the most important part of the phone and this screen is just so sub-par. What I dont get is that this is supossed to be the same screen as the Optimus G, but comon, theyre not even close!!
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Imma mad too about viewing angles I want someone on the elevator to be able to read off the screen and when my boys are over its too hard for eight of us to watch netflix together off my phone.
They better fix this with ota
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weird. my viewing angles are great. the screen is at least on par with iphones after its calibrated. its hard to even look at my gs2 screen after using this, i wonder how i used it for a whole year
What app do you use to calibrate the screen?
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What app do you use to calibrate the screen?
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Well someone recomended I install the PARANOID ANDROID 3.1 Rom along with the contrasty/bright kernels. Colors definetely improved, but viewing angles remained terrible...
Please go post your opinions on your blog or in the comment section of Engadget.
I've also closed your thread in Optimus G General.
Saw a brand new Z1 and unboxed it instore in phones4u, and the screen was perfect.
So i jumped the gun and ordered one for my wife from phones.co.uk.
Arrived this morning and tested the display, very good looking head on, but viewing angles are horrendous.
Im in two minds about keeping this, my wife probably not going to be bothered about the viewing angles so i may keep it, but this is a serious flaw in an otherwise amazing handset. Not yet checked camera or anything, this is supposed to be a surprise so dont want it to look used!
If I return it, how long should i wait before getting another one in hope of getting a better display?
Also, where is the fanboy that insisted retail units would be fine and crappy screens were restricted to pre production samples?
You bought the device knowing it had bad viewing angles and making a thread about when it is getting better lol
I'm sure you can answer your own question. You're one funny guy.
So you bought it for your wife. But your using it. So let your wife use it and let her decide. Again you bought it for her.
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Theres no point in opening this kind of threads as sony is not going to come and comment on when the displays will improve..u looked the z1 and u ordered it its ur fault dnt blame sony
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I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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I think it's just because this determines the quality of a display in general. Sony is putting low-quality TN matrices into their devices and that's a phenomenon in mobile world today because all the other manufacturers are using more advanced displays in their high-end devices (HTC, Nokia, LG, Apple - IPS, Samsung, Nokia - OLED). It's not good when you tilt the phone 30 degs. and see strong color degradation. It's not that you look at the screen at an angle all the time but even if you look 5% of the time you want the picture to be good. It's hard to spend money on this device knowing it lacks in this important aspect. This is more strange because the older Z Ultra has better display (IPS probably?).
I also understand this may not be a problem for some and I generally find the Z1 very nice device but waiting impatiently for Sony to improve the display tech.
kashppo said:
I really don't understand how people can say a screen is bad based on it's viewing angles. I mean, come on! What kind of angles are we talking about? Don't you look at the phone straight on?
I find it useful for me, I don't like people having a peek at what I'm doing... But definitely the screen itself isn't bad, viewing angles are a subjective topic!
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Well if the phone is on a table or you're using the phone while lying on bad (just two examples), naturally the phone won't be dead-on your face.
tom369 said:
I think it's just because this determines the quality of a display in general. Sony is putting low-quality TN matrices into their devices and that's a phenomenon in mobile world today because all the other manufacturers are using more advanced displays in their high-end devices (HTC, Nokia, LG, Apple - IPS, Samsung, Nokia - OLED). It's not good when you tilt the phone 30 degs. and see strong color degradation. It's not that you look at the screen at an angle all the time but even if you look 5% of the time you want the picture to be good. It's hard to spend money on this device knowing it lacks in this important aspect. This is more strange because the older Z Ultra has better display (IPS probably?).
I also understand this may not be a problem for some and I generally find the Z1 very nice device but waiting impatiently for Sony to improve the display tech.
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One thing people dont understand is that OLED is not water proof, deteriorates very fast... and sun legibility is next to 0...
FYI Sony is not using TN display they are using VA...
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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I totally agree with each and every word you said! :good: :good:
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I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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Lol what a bunch of bullocks. How would you explain then the Z Ultra superior viewing angles despite being waterproof as well?
Sitti01 said:
I still don't understand people's complain about this viewing angle thing. I have used Samsung, HTC phones and Sony Z1. I have no complaint about it sdisplay. Viewing angle is good, may not be the best but it is quite good. This is waterproof phone, which means they have to use different display that is not used by non-waterproof phone. Some trade-offs have to be made in order to make electronic device waterproof. You can either have the best waterproof phone or best display phone, not both.
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This is a load of rubbish, it does not have a poor screen because it is water proof - there are z1's out there with an amazing screen. Unfortunately its a bit of a lottery which type you end up with. The one i saw in the shop was perfect, mine, not so much.
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This is a load of rubbish, it does not have a poor screen because it is water proof - there are z1's out there with an amazing screen. Unfortunately its a bit of a lottery which type you end up with. The one i saw in the shop was perfect, mine, not so much.
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To be honest this thread is total rubbish.
Viewing angles, how many people want to look at the phone in any other way than being head on is beyond a joke! But I want to share a movie with me mate or gf, really? It's your bloody phone, it was designed to be looked at head on, not tilted and not really for sharing, we have things called TV's for sharing movies etc.
Another bloody useless thread for whinging babies!!!!
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Morlock O said:
One thing people dont understand is that OLED is not water proof, deteriorates very fast... and sun legibility is next to 0...
FYI Sony is not using TN display they are using VA...
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Like the display type governs whether or not the phone is waterproof.
Waterproofing is something sony has added to their phone, regardless of display type. And yes, the screens in Sony handsets are poor compared to the competition, but not everyone is bothered by this.
I for one can't stand when black is never black but grey, turning more towards light grey if you just tilt it a few degrees.
Apoxx said:
Like the display type governs whether or not the phone is waterproof.
Waterproofing is something sony has added to their phone, regardless of display type. And yes, the screens in Sony handsets are poor compared to the competition, but not everyone is bothered by this.
I for one can't stand when black is never black but grey, turning more towards light grey if you just tilt it a few degrees.
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and what do you have to say about yellow turning green
http://timg.eprice.com.tw/tw/mobile..._3_SONY-_1337411f4c51a1320ad7f7ed2c7dea2a.jpg
and red turning brown
http://timg.eprice.com.tw/tw/mobile..._3_SONY-_e112861da9ad118250cf01daceedd6f8.jpg
sauce
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881355/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/
if Z1 display is horrible I say OLED is also a scam.
rarsi123 said:
Saw a brand new Z1 and unboxed it instore in phones4u, and the screen was perfect.
So i jumped the gun and ordered one for my wife from phones.co.uk.
Arrived this morning and tested the display, very good looking head on, but viewing angles are horrendous.
Im in two minds about keeping this, my wife probably not going to be bothered about the viewing angles so i may keep it, but this is a serious flaw in an otherwise amazing handset. Not yet checked camera or anything, this is supposed to be a surprise so dont want it to look used!
If I return it, how long should i wait before getting another one in hope of getting a better display?
Also, where is the fanboy that insisted retail units would be fine and crappy screens were restricted to pre production samples?
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I don't see so much this problem, I'm not using my phone as a TV so view angles are important and the screen is super usable, as said before what I like more than anything else is its LUMINOSITY, is the ONLY phone that can beat the iPhone (actually the best one) under the sun. I prefer less view angles and be able to use my phone outside. That without consider that the screen has really nice colors (and realistic)
ianford10 said:
To be honest this thread is total rubbish.
Viewing angles, how many people want to look at the phone in any other way than being head on is beyond a joke! But I want to share a movie with me mate or gf, really? It's your bloody phone, it was designed to be looked at head on, not tilted and not really for sharing, we have things called TV's for sharing movies etc.
Another bloody useless thread for whinging babies!!!!
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I've been using my Z1 for like 2 weeks now.. Personally, viewing angles are a bit worse compared to the S3 but I still am quite easily able to read stuff at an angle. The yellow hue issue is placeboo really speaking... I have no issue with it to be honest...
Sean473 said:
I've been using my Z1 for like 2 weeks now.. Personally, viewing angles are a bit worse compared to the S3 but I still am quite easily able to read stuff at an angle. The yellow hue issue is placeboo really speaking... I have no issue with it to be honest...
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I can assure you there is a problem with the screen as I have both the xperia z1 and the xperia z and my xperia z has a far better screen with more contrast and colour. I am taking mine in and will be showing them both phones so they can see how bad the screen is.
The OP has spammed and run. delete the thread from the HTC employee.
But all the negativity and *****ing has me worried ..
- How is the brightness ? Too dark ?
- How are colors ?
- How is battery life compared to HTC one ?
- How bad is the camera auto mode ?
- I suppose a case is essential given the glass build, does it become too bulky as a result ?
I read reviews and watched youtube videos of course, but I need real world input from .. y'know casual humans not corps and sites ..
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If you have doubts, you should not take this phone
I am very happy so far. Sure,the camera is not perfect but most of the time the pictures are really good. Far better than s4 another rest can manage. I also belive that it will improve as it has a larger sensor than the rest of the Android bunch.
I use the screen at maybe 25% and that is enough for me, it has better viewability outside than my old s3.
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Brightness is very high and the darks are also good i dnt know abt the htc one so cant compare
Colors are u can go and check the demo unit
Battery life is fantastic i get 5-6 hrs of on screen time
Camera is also fantastic
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Okay, so just for reference, id been out and looked at this phone in the shops and was massively disappointed with the screen (colours washed out, blacks looked grey etc). I did however take a massive risk after I had one of my uncles tell me how good the phone is and I am in all honesty VERY impressed.
For reference, I bought my handset from handtec, which if you check the screen problems thread is one where everyone who has said they bought them from this shop have not had any funky screen issues, which essentially pushed me to buy it from there.
To answer your questions:
1. Screen brightness for me is not a problem, I have a matte screen protector and although it slightly affects the overall output its not a problem. I have left it on the default setting and have not once had an issue with seeing the screen in bright sunlight or even indoors. Blacks look great.
2. Colours really do pop, the range of colours produced is amazing. I have a Nokia 920 which I think gives great colours. I have seen some photos on the 920 look better and then photos on the z1 look better, you wont be disappointed.
3. No idea, dont own one
4. To me this is something completely overblown. Day time shots are fantastic, Night time shots are as bad as any other phone. Im not a camera specialist and anyone feel free to correct me on this, but it looks like the iso is set really high and the aperture all the way open to offset having a fast shutter speed, leaving super grainy pictures with little to no blur.
5. Waiting on a case But this comes down to the case you choose...
1. Brightness is good enough, usually have the phone at 40-45% brightness... I like the HTC One screen better though. The Z1 screen is more, bland. The One screen speaks more to me.
2. At the moment a yellowish hue, believe it's introduced in the 534 firmware and should be fixable in future updates. Overall fine though. Viewing angles aren't great, but not an issue for me as I don't look at the phone from an angle when using it myself.
3. Comparable imo, can easily get 1 day and if I use it a bit less about 2 days on a singel charge with both devices.
4. Fine with proper lighting, but has a tendency to bump the ISO values bigtime (prolly in order to keep shuttertimes low, but resulting in quite some noise).
5. No idea, not using a case but it's big enough already without one.
Hi Fatelord,
Your thread has been moved from Xperia Z1 General to Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. PLease post in the correct sub-forum in future.
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Hey guys, I've read every single review out there. And frankly. In a few weeks I need to make a choice. And I want to hear it from a community which knows what they are tanking about.
First. Whats the deal with the screen protector?
Is it the main cause of the viewing angle issues I keep reading about? Following that, if I get scratches in it and choose to take it off, is it then completely Without warranty or is that something they tend to overlook?
Secondly. The screen size is not that large considering it's size (which I don't mind) I see there is some tools for removing the nav bar. Will they work fine during games too?.
The build quality looks absolutley stunning and honestly, I don't mind viewing angles keeping nosey viewers out. I also see the Camera gets a lot of heat. But from some of the pictures posted, it's more than good enough for me.
It's ether this, the note 3 or the ultra. Knowing what you guys know now, what would you do?
Any kind comments, thoughts or advice. Please let me know!
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Hey guys, I've read every single review out there. And frankly. In a few weeks I need to make a choice. And I want to hear it from a community which knows what they are tanking about.
First. Whats the deal with the screen protector?
Is it the main cause of the viewing angle issues I keep reading about? Following that, if I get scratches in it and choose to take it off, is it then completely Without warranty or is that something they tend to overlook?
Secondly. The screen size is not that large considering it's size (which I don't mind) I see there is some tools for removing the nav bar. Will they work fine during games too?.
The build quality looks absolutley stunning and honestly, I don't mind viewing angles keeping nosey viewers out. I also see the Camera gets a lot of heat. But from some of the pictures posted, it's more than good enough for me.
It's ether this, the note 3 or the ultra. Knowing what you guys know now, what would you do?
Any kind comments, thoughts or advice. Please let me know!
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first: its a shatter proof film not a screen protector, get a tempered glass one or a good standard one
second: dont know much about this but mods exist to reduce the size of the nav bar dont fret.
the camera is good, not as good as an DSLR but its a great camera phone.
the battery life is good 5hours SOT in 24 hours not bad.
the XZU has a great screen but crappy camera, the N3 has a great saturated screen and a good camera too, but looks tacky to me (that faux leather back its weird in all levels).
Thanks for clearing some things up there asa. To be fair I am not a big camera man. If I must desperately take a picture, I dig out the SLR which turned out to be a BIG waste of money. Never gets used.
I'm here for that attractive look, glass and aluminium. The only thing I have ever envied from the apple users. Can't beat the feel of some cold metal in your hand. And water resistance of any kind is only a plus texting in the rain is something that can happen regular for me. This note 1 is lucky to be alive.
Mostly I don't do much calling either. Don't care much for the external speaker either, its got headphones plugged in. This will be a texting and gaming commute machine. The reason this isn't an easy decision is I can't seem to find a store in the Netherlands which has that ultra on display. I don't mind big, but I do mind it hanging out of my pocket like a big neon invitation to be stolen
I've practically been measuring pockets to try and figure it out without actually seeing on, although they are available online, it obviously cannot physically been viewed.
Seen the z1, very impressed. Just wish the screen was a tad bigger. 5.7 to 6 is about the sweet spot for me so I don't know
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I think that 5" is the perfect screen size for me. The ONLY thing I have a problem with on this phone is the screen, it's not great, it's good but it isn't great. The headphone jack isn't covered by a flap so that should be a plus for you.
Hey TheCraig. Thanks for chiming in. Community seems nice and active here which is a sure bonus.
I've never really gamed on a 5", my main games being real racing 3, order and chaos online, FIFA 14 and scummVM. I'd properly try and get into the nice graphical shooters if this phone had the power. The note 1 struggles with all those games other than scumm (naturally).
What might well swing me over to the z1 is after reading some of the experiences of others there, the ultra seems to bend pretty easily if under any pocket pressure. its going to be a xperia for me. Still can't decide on the z1 or the ultra :banghead:
Thanks to the mods by the way for moving this thread, sorry about that!
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Hey TheCraig. Thanks for chiming in. Community seems nice and active here which is a sure bonus.
I've never really gamed on a 5", my main games being real racing 3, order and chaos online, FIFA 14 and scummVM. I'd properly try and get into the nice graphical shooters if this phone had the power. The note 1 struggles with all those games other than scumm (naturally).
What might well swing me over to the z1 is after reading some of the experiences of others there, the ultra seems to bend pretty easily if under any pocket pressure. its going to be a xperia for me. Still can't decide on the z1 or the ultra :banghead:
Thanks to the mods by the way for moving this thread, sorry about that!
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A few things to consider.
1. The one is large bigger than my Xperia Z was. The lg G2 and nexus5 both have less bezel and fit better in the hand
2. As for camera it good just takes practice, that said i would say it that much better than G2 or N5
3. Battery life is really good I get 5 hours of screen time which is the best I've had in any phone
4. This phone is fast not sure if it is faster than the N5 but l like Sony's skin it nice and clean
5. Waterproofing is nice to have, but comes at the cost of flaps, invest in a dock for sure
6. The screen is fine but not the best in class for sure.
7. It does get warm playing games
8. If you want updates get the N5, Sony is not the fastest with updates but nor is it the worst.
9. It's the best looking of the bunch IMO
10. The Walkman app is great love it
Hi guys I'm thinking of buying LG G flex and looking for some opinions. Im an Xperia Z user and a very satisfied user. I didnt even think of changing my phone and its been with me for a year but the G flex caught my eyes and the main reason why i wanna buy it is because its different and curved. Here are some things that Im not so sure about so if you can help me with it using your experience then Id be grateful
1- Screen quality - now to be honest, im not a tech expert or someone that will look at the screen very closely to find pixels. Im a normal user, i like watching some videos and web browsing. the g flex has got a lot of criticism on the 720p display so what do you guys think in general? im coming from a 1080p display but i dont think ill have a lot of problems with the 720p display? some reviews i read were horendous that u cant even look at the screen its so bad. i know its not that bad. i just want to know if its a good screen that can show videos and pictures nicely. nothing extra extra sharp. also, im using hp envy x2 which is a tablet and laptop hybrid featuring a 720p display. i love it and dont have any problems against the screen. but i dont know whether 11 inch tablet screens are difff from phone screens and if tablet screens are even better at 720p?
2-screen ghosting. this is another thing ive heard a lot but havent heard anything about it from regular users. is screen ghosting a major issue and does it happen regularly? i plan on using it at 60% or + brightness because the battery is huge so will screen ghosting still be present? and is there a fix? is it a deal breaker?
3 Screen bumps- ive seen videos where users show bumps on their screens which lg admitted as well i think its because of flexing the screen. is bumps a regular issue for you guys? if i get a bump, it there a way to fix it or will it stay forever ?
4- Back- someone told me that the back of the device looks cheap and is uncomfortable?
5 Breaking - this might sound weird but did anyone break their device is the curved and flexible screen and design sensitive and will it break if it drops?
6 -Usable- i havent used a 6 inch phone before so this is a general question of whether the phone seems fine in usage? my xperia z is 5 inches but i dont consider it as big at all but do u guys feel that 6 inches is manageable? i had a blackberry playbook once and it was very big at 7 inches and NOT AT ALL something i couuld use as a phone. so how is the 6 inch phone? is it TOO big? or does it seem fine??
Thanks is advance
1. Screen is good but grainy, but for videos this is one of the best screens I have held, and the battery timings for watching videos is phenomenal. You can watch unto 20 hours of video on this phone not to mention overall battery timings as well.
2. Ghosting is definitely there and can be a problem at start but you get use to it slowly, I am use to it now though it was a bit annoying at start.
3. No bumps so far and I have flexed it quite often.
4. The back of this phone is the most premium thing about this phone, it's great to hold and though it looks slippery but it is quite wonderful to grip and doesn't slip.
5 No certain answer for breaking cus you can break anything you want but the construction of the phone is quite solid.
6. It's a big phone and can be a problem if you have small hands but as you have mentioned that 7 inches tablet is fine for you then this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Bottom line: the best phone if you are a phablet lover and you can't use anything else.
papa.khan123 said:
1. Screen is good but grainy, but for videos this is one of the best screens I have held, and the battery timings for watching videos is phenomenal. You can watch unto 20 hours of video on this phone not to mention overall battery timings as well.
2. Ghosting is definitely there and can be a problem at start but you get use to it slowly, I am use to it now though it was a bit annoying at start.
3. No bumps so far and I have flexed it quite often.
4. The back of this phone is the most premium thing about this phone, it's great to hold and though it looks slippery but it is quite wonderful to grip and doesn't slip.
5 No certain answer for breaking cus you can break anything you want but the construction of the phone is quite solid.
6. It's a big phone and can be a problem if you have small hands but as you have mentioned that 7 inches tablet is fine for you then this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Bottom line: the best phone if you are a phablet lover and you can't use anything else.
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is ghosting there even at high brightness? i think thats pretty bad if ghosting is always there
I've had my flex about a month and I haven't seen any burn in or ghosting. Which from my reading should only happen during the first few weeks of device use if at all. I came from a galaxy s4 and I'll tell ya the screen looks as good as the s4 99% of the time I have noticed the grainy look but only on a few pics. Doesn't always look grainy. I think its just certain colors and maybe pic quality that's my opinion.
As far as breaking. I've dropped mine a couple times and its fine. No cracks the back doesn't feel cheap at all. There's a video of a guy hyper extending the phone probably 15° and it didn't break the screen. The LCD I believe is flexible its the rest of the phone is not. And I think you will only see the bumps in the screen if you try flattening it out or hyper extending it like the guy in the video. Which the bumps appeared from internal parts poking the back of the LCD when bent.
Coming from a very speedy Galaxy S4 to this ....
I'm very pleased. Its faster smoother less lag screen just as good to me but bigger which is a good thing.
I love it. I would recommend and buy another.
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Yes but I hardly even notice the ghosting anymore. I did at first. Really only noticeable for me when using stock sms with dark background in sms and going from white to dark when opening messages.
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is ghosting there even at high brightness? i think thats pretty bad if ghosting is always there
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Just like so many others, I have not been bothered in any way with ghosting, graininess, or any of the other non sense you have been reading on the internet; all that crap comes from Samsung fan bois, so ignore it..
sounds like you are a lot like me; you don't micro stare at every little aspect of your cell phone, so you will absolutely LOVE this phone; there is a slight blue hue/graininess at times, but moving the brightness up a bit gets rid of it, if it bothers you; it doesn't bother me one bit!
bumps? never heard of it from ANY of the users here. Obviously some idiot abused his phone somehow, and caused something unusual to happen.
how the hell does the back of a device "look cheap"? sounds like more fanbois stupidity..
I've dropped it a couple of times, with no issues to it, so its not like a fragile china vase..
And, if you are ok with your xperia at 5 inches, you won't have any issues with this one...
I'm happy with mine so far. I've always used high end Samsung service's. Best performance I've ever had on a phone. Imo there is only one phone in this category that is better and it's. The note 3. But I just wanted to give this a try cause... well I played with it in the store and I really liked it. If somebody talks badly about this they are just super particular.
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This phone has a "cool factor" that no other phone out now can match....
Coming from a long line of Samsung devices that I've enjoyed very much I took a chance on the Flex about a month back because I like to watch a fair amount of video on my phone and thought it might prove superior for this purpose. A month on I'm not disappointed. I love the screen. I keep the brightness up and haven't been disappointed at all with the quality. I don't miss my Note 3's 1080P. I've had no issues with the phone from bending and such and enjoy the feel of the phone in the hand when texting and making calls. The Flex is very fast and the battery lasts forever. Honestly my only complaint and it is a minor one is that the rear of the phone picks up dust and lint easily, I assume due to the coating. This is not a big deal to me. Overall I would easily purchase this phone again.
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Coming from a long line of Samsung devices that I've enjoyed very much I took a chance on the Flex about a month back because I like to watch a fair amount of video on my phone and thought it might prove superior for this purpose. A month on I'm not disappointed. I love the screen. I keep the brightness up and haven't been disappointed at all with the quality. I don't miss my Note 3's 1080P. I've had no issues with the phone from bending and such and enjoy the feel of the phone in the hand when texting and making calls. The Flex is very fast and the battery lasts forever. Honestly my only complaint and it is a minor one is that the rear of the phone picks up dust and lint easily, I assume due to the coating. This is not a big deal to me. Overall I would easily purchase this phone again.
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did u have ghosting problems?
Someone has offered me 200 and a new galaxy mega 6.3 for my g flex what do you all think...should I make the switch ?
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yasirrfc said:
did u have ghosting problems?
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I haven't experienced any ghosting issues as yet.
Went from a Note 3 to the flex. Don't miss the Note at all. Really loving this phone, just wish development was more active, ..but after rooting and do a few things. I'm pretty happy with it as is. Great phone. Probably never go back to Samsung again. Their phones have gotten "common" and boring.
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Someone has offered me 200 and a new galaxy mega 6.3 for my g flex what do you all think...should I make the switch ?
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Why are you asking us lol? If it was ne i would be asking myself why would i want a phone larger then a 6inch which is the biggest i go s for me heck no i wouldn't trade my flex for no mega, that phone is just over doing it i'm sorry but i don't understand the why over due it as a 6 inch is just the perfect size now you have to ask yourself why do you want the mega not ask us because majority might and will say they wouldn't do it but you have to understand that's us at the end if the day our opinion shouldn't matter if you are interested in the mega so there for if you played with one then you should know what you want to do.
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I owned the G Flex for a week before I traded it back in on a Note 3. There were just several things I didn't like about it (screen quality & ghosting issues being the driving factors) that caused me to return it. I do miss the Flex sometimes because I thought the curved screen was a great design, but I do not regret my decision to go with the Note 3 as it's easily the best device I've ever owned.
That said, if you can get past the graininess of the screen and the fact that it's not as sharp as the 1080p screens that are out now, it's a fantastic phone. The battery life is second to none (since the screen is only 720p, it drains the battery much slower than the higher res 1080p screen would), it's very smooth and the curved design fits well in your hand. It also has a huge 6" display. The hardware buttons on the back are also a nice touch. All in all, it was a great attempt by LG to try something a little different. Though I did come from a Note 2, I am by no means a Samsung fanboy. My favorite phone prior to this was my HTC Evo3D. I wanted really bad to love the Flex but in the end, I just didn't feel like the things I did like about it could make up for it's shortcomings and in such, I just couldn't commit to it as my daily driver for the next year.
yasirrfc said:
Hi guys I'm thinking of buying LG G flex and looking for some opinions. Im an Xperia Z user and a very satisfied user. I didnt even think of changing my phone and its been with me for a year but the G flex caught my eyes and the main reason why i wanna buy it is because its different and curved. Here are some things that Im not so sure about so if you can help me with it using your experience then Id be grateful
1- Screen quality - now to be honest, im not a tech expert or someone that will look at the screen very closely to find pixels. Im a normal user, i like watching some videos and web browsing. the g flex has got a lot of criticism on the 720p display so what do you guys think in general? im coming from a 1080p display but i dont think ill have a lot of problems with the 720p display? some reviews i read were horendous that u cant even look at the screen its so bad. i know its not that bad. i just want to know if its a good screen that can show videos and pictures nicely. nothing extra extra sharp. also, im using hp envy x2 which is a tablet and laptop hybrid featuring a 720p display. i love it and dont have any problems against the screen. but i dont know whether 11 inch tablet screens are difff from phone screens and if tablet screens are even better at 720p?
2-screen ghosting. this is another thing ive heard a lot but havent heard anything about it from regular users. is screen ghosting a major issue and does it happen regularly? i plan on using it at 60% or + brightness because the battery is huge so will screen ghosting still be present? and is there a fix? is it a deal breaker?
3 Screen bumps- ive seen videos where users show bumps on their screens which lg admitted as well i think its because of flexing the screen. is bumps a regular issue for you guys? if i get a bump, it there a way to fix it or will it stay forever ?
4- Back- someone told me that the back of the device looks cheap and is uncomfortable?
5 Breaking - this might sound weird but did anyone break their device is the curved and flexible screen and design sensitive and will it break if it drops?
6 -Usable- i havent used a 6 inch phone before so this is a general question of whether the phone seems fine in usage? my xperia z is 5 inches but i dont consider it as big at all but do u guys feel that 6 inches is manageable? i had a blackberry playbook once and it was very big at 7 inches and NOT AT ALL something i couuld use as a phone. so how is the 6 inch phone? is it TOO big? or does it seem fine??
Thanks is advance
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Being the phone junkie I am one of the things I like most about buying new phones is something different and that's why I got the Flex.
Screen - I look at the 720p Flex screen as a pro because that's why the battery life is so great. It's really nice not having to worry about charging your phone for 24 hrs even with heavy use. I had a G2 before my Flex and I don't miss the 1080 screen. I never watch reviews because most of them the people don't even use the phone for that long plus I like to see for myself. The good thing is you get 14 days.
Screen ghosting - I'm not sure if this is that but when I play QuizUp I see the image for a second or two after it goes away sometimes. It doesn't bother me. That's even when the brightness is maxed. I only turn down the brightness when in bed and the Flex battery makes it around 24 hrs on one charge with heavy use.
Screen Bumps - I'm pretty sure this only happens when you Flex the Flex. Just don't do that any you should be fine. I think it's another thing the LG haters like to talk about.
Back of the phone looks cheap - Ummm nothing looks cheap with the Flex. It's a solid phone. The phone is thin and the back is slippery plus the phone tends to pick up lint more then others. I put on a Otter Box 360 skin to keep the phone thin. Phone isn't slippery and less lint/ fingerprints.
Breaking - Ummm just take care of the phone and you'll be fine.
Size - The Flex is so thin it fits fine in my front jeans pocket but I don't wear skinny jeans. lol The phone doesn't feel big. IMO That's another thing that is subjective.
Here's my 2 cents, this phone is great the screen is a bit grainy, but with brightness turned up you won't notice it. Ghosting does happen but only when switching between apps and only for like 2 seconds then it's fine. My only complaint about this phone is the camera, it takes amazing pictures when out in the sun or in a room with ample lighting, but I went to a concert the other night and took pictures and I had to really play with the settings to get the pictures to be decent. For me I'm disappointed at that and hope that this issue will be addressed with kit Kat update, but seeing as I go to only a few concerts a year it's by no means a deal breaker. Like someone said earlier, you have 14 days to play with it. If it doesn't fit with what you want in a phone then just take it back, but I have a feeling that you won't because this phone is a beast!
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hmm i think i really like the g flex now. considering im not someone who will try to compare the phone with 1080p displays, i think it should be a good fit. I use my hp envy x2 tablet/laptop all the time and its also 720p so the sharpness doesn't bother me. For the grainy party, i think i can turn the brightness way up coz of the long battery life someone i know has Note 2 and ive had it in my hands a couple of times and i dont find it bulky or uncomfortable but the g flex is still at 6 inches. do u think if im comfortable with note 2, then g flex shouldn't also be a problem, in terms of handling it etc? as u guys mentioned, ghosting isnt a deal breaker for any of you and it happpens for 1 seconds only so i think i can live with it?
I have had mine for two weeks now.
1. Screen Quality - Its 720 display, if you are coming from an older phone, you won't notice a "lack" of 1080p. Further, the curved screen does work out better for viewing angles. The "grainyness" is not a problem. As noted in many reviews, if you hold the Note 3 and the Flex side by side, you will see a difference, but the quality is not necessarily better.
2. Ghosting not an issue for me. Is it there? Sometimes, is it a problem... no.
3. Screen bumps - As another poster stated, don't do bending tricks with your phone and you won't see these bumps. I haven't seen any yet.
4. Back - Really? Who with a 600 dollar phone doesn't put it immediately in a $50 dollar case? You can't even see the back. That being said, if you carry it bare, it really is very thin with a very well designed back material. It fits very well in your front pocket.
5. Breaking is only an issue if you have an issue breaking phones.
6. Usability is really dependent on the size of your hand. I have smaller hands, so I find myself using it two handed (I bought it for data rather than phone calls), and for phone calls I use bluetooth. The one time I held it to my head, it did feel odd, but not any more odd then a 4.7" phone. I really hate hot glass on my face. You really have to just try it out, I think people can get used to anything if they want to.
any more opinions? or experiences?