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[Q] Xperia Z design quality

Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.

trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine

Riyal said:
Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
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I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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djq said:
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
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What I meant too hot to touch is that it's warm enough to the point that it's already uncomfortable to hold. Also nexus 4 is a millimeter thick than Xperia Z that's a big factor in heat. Plus I did point out 3 factors in heating and nexus 4 only has 1.
kornklown69 said:
I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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I would rather have portable heater with smartphone features than a smartphone that shuts off everytime lol!
Also glass can't be coolants it would defy the logic of nature
And yeah nexus 4 do encounter overheating issues too.
I just wish Xperia ZL was water resistant. The curve design on the back is a great way to reduce heat produced by the phone + the plastic material which reduces it also.

When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.

AK4TAY7BEN said:
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
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Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.

Riyal said:
Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
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Well i guess that could could happen if you put it in ice cold water
I don't think i could ever put a case on that lovely back.

Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.

brambizimski said:
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
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They need space to put the electronics you know The Xperia ZL is fatter so they can make the battery more compact, leaving more room for everything else behind the display. Also, part of the OmniBalance design is that the bezel is the same size on the top and bottom.

there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi joking

marcoplo said:
there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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krabappel2548 said:
APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation

marcoplo said:
it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
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I underclock my phones up to a minimum of 900mhz(it's a dual core msm8x60 processor) and still when watching videos, browsing the web and playing games(Like angry birds) for a minimum of 40minutes then the phone get's hotter already. This might not be the case for S4 processors since they have lower nanometer(nm) but still I'm pretty sure it would still get hot.
Regarding no air circulation... That's one of the main causes of overheating since the heat would be more stagnant. The more flow of air inside the phone the lesser it is to likely overheat.

[Q] Are you confident with the water resistant flaps?

The microusb flap on my 2 day old Xperia Z feels loose without any abuse to it. Initially it takes serious effort to pry it open, now it pops open smoothly with little effort. I thought I'd like to try washing my phone but judging on the flap, I'm not feeling comfortable putting the phone near water.
Does these water resistant seals require maintenance/periodic replacement from Sony?
How are the flaps of your phone? Do they still work even after they loosen up?

mengsuan said:
The microusb flap on my 2 day old Xperia Z feels loose without any abuse to it. Initially it takes serious effort to pry it open, now it pops open smoothly with little effort. I thought I'd like to try washing my phone but judging on the flap, I'm not feeling comfortable putting the phone near water.
Does these water resistant seals require maintenance/periodic replacement from Sony?
How are the flaps of your phone? Do they still work even after they loosen up?
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They loosen up while time passes, if you look the inside of the flaps you will see some kind of rubber coating, as long that's ok your phone should be fine.
Sony stated that the flaps can be opened 5 times a day and still survive for 2 years.

I'm rather worried about the connections to the flaps. They seem to bend rather easily and could prevent the lids from closing correctly.
I always apply some extra pressure before taking my Z near water, just to be safe.

R!n said:
I'm rather worried about the connections to the flaps. They seem to bend rather easily and could prevent the lids from closing correctly.
I always apply some extra pressure before taking my Z near water, just to be safe.
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No worries. They're flexible but tough.
Sent from my gorgeous White Xperia Z

R!n said:
I'm rather worried about the connections to the flaps.
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Even if they broke - the rubber seals are tight enough for you to close the cover and let it sit there. Those connections dont actually hold the covers in place - they just make sure you won't lose them.

I was dubious about the water proofing but I got drunk and tried it out in the pub the other night....
....phone still works like a charm!
Here is some vids I took dipping it in my friends pint.
http://youtu.be/jFQAL-9WY8s
and washing it in the sink after
http://youtu.be/m67XefjDKgM

I took mine to the shower about three times already. Even wrote about two texts and watched a few Youtube videos from there without a hitch. I'm definitely confident in them. A bit unrelated by at the same time related; I had a dream last night that I sat on my Z and it warped inwards and shattered from all sides, but upon closer inspection I noticed that it was the side's had a green tint to it as opposed to the regular blue, and that's when I realized that I was dreaming in my dream. I looked around for a bit (I was having dinner with dead celebrities and relatives), thanked them for the dinner and invitation and left (I wanted to start having a lucid dream but I wanted to check my real-life Z if everything is ok. I love the fact that I know my Z so well that I was able to point out its imposter's flaws and wake myself up in such a state of mind.

I've tested it into an aquatic center for more than 4 hours, he still works like a charm :victory:
This phone is just awesome.

I was a bit nervous but yup put it in a jug of water just to test and because it shocks the family. Even took it in the shower this morning and was sending texts!
My Brother, Mum and Dad have all swapped their IPhones for a Xperia Z. It's just cool.

I see you guys \ girls have no fear for water when it comes to Xperia Z.
But the real question here is: Who opens the flaps frequently and is still brave enough to use it under water?
(Reason for asking is, there is a lot of nice stories up here but none of these confirm they open the flaps frequently... and that is what this topic is about.)
Kind regards, Stefan.

Thaevil0ne said:
I see you guys \ girls have no fear for water when it comes to Xperia Z.
But the real question here is: Who opens the flaps frequently and is still brave enough to use it under water?
(Reason for asking is, there is a lot of nice stories up here but none of these confirm they open the flaps frequently... and that is what this topic is about.)
Kind regards, Stefan.
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Well I personally keep opening my flaps constantly to sync with my Jawbone UP band and when I was testing my OTG cable and no issues. It's just so cool to be able to use in the shower if needed.

xfile087 said:
i was a bit nervous but yup put it in a jug of water just to test and because it shocks the family. Even took it in the shower this morning and was sending texts!
My brother, mum and dad have all swapped their iphones for a xperia z. It's just cool.
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Flop loosed
mengsuan said:
The microusb flap on my 2 day old Xperia Z feels loose without any abuse to it. Initially it takes serious effort to pry it open, now it pops open smoothly with little effort. I thought I'd like to try washing my phone but judging on the flap, I'm not feeling comfortable putting the phone near water.
Does these water resistant seals require maintenance/periodic replacement from Sony?
How are the flaps of your phone? Do they still work even after they loosen up?
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Microusb flap loosed too, can someone tell me where can i buy it???

DelTree© said:
I was dubious about the water proofing but I got drunk and tried it out in the pub the other night....
....phone still works like a charm!
Here is some vids I took dipping it in my friends pint.
http://youtu.be/jFQAL-9WY8s
and washing it in the sink after
http://youtu.be/m67XefjDKgM
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i wonder if the microphone or speaker get damaged when you apply a moderate stream of water to the holes..
manual says only use a low output stream of water to clean it.

Thats really bad my xperia Z micro usb flap is damaged i lost the rubber seals and i cant find anyone can repair that IM READY TO PAY 25$ JUST FOR ONE USB FLAP and also i dont have a credit card SO I CANT BUY ONLINE

I kinda sorta accepting that my Z flaps lost their resistance property after one year continuously open and close. So kinda missed those. Now my Z just a normal phone with awesome camera only :/
Whitefang
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For me, when you push in the flaps with the top slightly going in first, it goes in loosely
so when you push it in, try and push the top and bottom in evenly, or the bottom ever so slightly in first.
just my experiences with the flaps.
also, oil from your fingers might make the rubber bits slipperly, so try and wipe then on your shirt, cloth or something and see if it helps.

I have a problem with the headphone flap uncovers itself, my phone only has 2 months of use, I could do to fix it? because it is not physically damaged, not even use headphones constantly've only used about 10 times, I hope you can give me some ideas. thanks!!!

Looking for flap replacements?
Here is from Witrigs, tested and proven by many here on XDA. i'm gonna order for my Z1 compact for reserve purposes.
http://www.witrigs.com/sony-xperia-z-replacement-parts
Edit: Guys these are not OEM flaps, sorry about that. Thought so they have OEM flaps like for Z1 and Z1 compact.

[Q] Waterproof Against Ocean Water

Will the Sony Xperia Z1 work in ocean water? I know it'll work in the shower, pool, etc. but I was wondering if anybody had taken it to the beach or gone snorkeling or swimming in the ocean with it yet. And if so, what was your experience with it? I am asking because I am planning on getting this phone and I currently have a waterproof Sony Cybershot DSC-TX20 and I've taken that thing everywhere and it hasn't failed me yet, so I'm curious if the Xperia Z1 will be more or less equal to the water proofing of the DSC-TX20. Thanks!

In the user's manual it us very clearly stated. No salt water immersion.
Sendt fra min XPERIA Z1 6903

Yeah...touch screen doesn't like salt
Maybe it'll work but you'll scratch your screen if you don't wash it right away...
But I wouldn't recommend that..
Sent from my Z1

Wouldn't recommend it. The sea water is bad news for the rubber seals and will cause them to become brittle and fall apart. That's why u don't see many soft rubber things in the sea only hardened plastics.
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tyler.samse said:
Will the Sony Xperia Z1 work in ocean water? [...] I am asking because I am planning on getting this phone and I currently have a waterproof Sony Cybershot DSC-TX20 and I've taken that thing everywhere and it hasn't failed me yet, so I'm curious if the Xperia Z1 will be more or less equal to the water proofing of the DSC-TX20. Thanks!
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Very risky, if you have a problem warranty won't works.

tyler.samse said:
Will the Sony Xperia Z1 work in ocean water? I know it'll work in the shower, pool, etc. but I was wondering if anybody had taken it to the beach or gone snorkeling or swimming in the ocean with it yet. And if so, what was your experience with it? I am asking because I am planning on getting this phone and I currently have a waterproof Sony Cybershot DSC-TX20 and I've taken that thing everywhere and it hasn't failed me yet, so I'm curious if the Xperia Z1 will be more or less equal to the water proofing of the DSC-TX20. Thanks!
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The salt water will corrode the exposed leads in the magnetic adaptor port.

Cooling the Xperia Z using cold water when it gets hot.

I multitask alot with my beloved Xperia Z and sometimes it gets hot but i ignore it and it finds a way to cool down while i still use it.
My question is if its ok to drop it in cooled water when it gets hot OR is the temperature difference shift is to big that its not so healthy for the Xperia Z?
...and to get this out of the way for people who are againt the water proof use...i had my purple Xperia Z for 8 months, i wash it every few days with soap and water, i use it ALL the time in the pool and underwater and basically im VERY confident in its waterproof capabilities SO lets stay on topic please.
Thanks for your help and opinions in advance
Sent from my beautiful purple friend Xperia Z.

well i guess it would be ok , isn't it ? it is not like he will do a hypothermic shock like the human body , i guess
yes the phone is waterproof yet it is very easy to crack , my gf droped my phone from like 1m and broke the whole back , happily the camera survived

Well you might end up with a broken back glass if you keep doing it.I havent experienced it firsthand but its easy to imagine...

No brother dont do that.yes our xz can be so hot sometimes just stop for a while if you think your phone is gonna melt.
Sent from my Xperia Yuga

Usually when you put hot glass on cold water the temperature change breaks the glass and our xperia Z is made of glass xD so maybe breaks, maybe not. I'm not sure if the temperature is too hot to create the conditions to break the glass.

according to software : when phone reaches high temp levels , the cpu clock and gpu and brightness level get decreased a little every temp level , so u going to reach a level the phone will start cooling it self as u mentioned , so u don't need to put it in cold water
if u pot hot glass in cold water , the glass will get broken , so careful , don't put your phone in danger just to win couple of mins of cooling

And take in mind the condenced water phenominon when switching in tempetures
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I have not taken into consideration the glass.... yes you're right the glass may break if the temperature difference is too big from hot to cold.
Considering i removed the back and front shaterproof films, i dont want the glass to crack! Haha ...saying that though, i must say im VERY confident in the Xperia Z durability as well. I drop it alot and nothing happens beside the corners that got some paint scratches
Remember that the front and back glass is a bit deeper than the frame so even when it falls straight down, the frame absorbs the hit when it touches the ground.
Back to topic...
I had this idea to create water cooling for our Xperia Z but besides putting it inside a clear container (like a cup or a bawl) with cooled water and then use a bluetooth mouse, i dont see how this waterproof advantage can be used for cooling.
Sent from my beautiful purple friend Xperia Z.

[Q] Xperia Z overheats

Hello everyone, I managed to buy a problematic Xperia Z at a really cheap price, and I sent it in for repair. (The LCD backlight fuse on the motherboard went out)
Well a few weeks later the technician calls me up and tell me that he managed to fix the backlight problem, but now he tells me that the motherboard heats up quite a bit.
Now the thing is that during repair, he managed to lose the metal covering shield that sits over the processor.
Do you think the loss of this small metal cover is the reason why this phone overheats?
Now I haven't actually Used this phone before, so I cant really say how badly this phone overheats, or if this is a regular issue among Xperia Z's.
(I used to have a Nexus 4 before that seriously heated up to maybe above 50-56 degrees when I played any intensive games. I wonder is the xperia Z like that? )
If he does not find that metal covering, do you think I could use some non conductive thermal paste between the Processor of the phone and glass back to dissipate the heat?
I'm going tomorrow to check out the phone.
Any answers would be highly appreciated!

Akash434 said:
Hello everyone, I managed to buy a problematic Xperia Z at a really cheap price, and I sent it in for repair. (The LCD backlight fuse on the motherboard went out)
Well a few weeks later the technician calls me up and tell me that he managed to fix the backlight problem, but now he tells me that the motherboard heats up quite a bit.
Now the thing is that during repair, he managed to lose the metal covering shield that sits over the processor.
Do you think the loss of this small metal cover is the reason why this phone overheats?
Now I haven't actually Used this phone before, so I cant really say how badly this phone overheats, or if this is a regular issue among Xperia Z's.
(I used to have a Nexus 4 before that seriously heated up to maybe above 50-56 degrees when I played any intensive games. I wonder is the xperia Z like that? )
If he does not find that metal covering, do you think I could use some non conductive thermal paste between the Processor of the phone and glass back to dissipate the heat?
I'm going tomorrow to check out the phone.
Any answers would be highly appreciated!
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The heat sink is there for a reason and I think it's really important for the XZ, because even with the heat sink the phone can become really hot.
If you could unlock the bootloader, you could down clock+voltage the processor and GPU to prevent it from becoming to hot. I'm not sure if thermal paste will work. It will help for sure, but I'm not sure if the paste will stay at the same spot over time, if it doesn't you'll only be extending the problem.
He could try applying the thermal paste and putting a thin metal plate over the paste. That way the plate can keep the paste together.

Akash434 said:
Hello everyone, I managed to buy a problematic Xperia Z at a really cheap price, and I sent it in for repair. (The LCD backlight fuse on the motherboard went out)
Well a few weeks later the technician calls me up and tell me that he managed to fix the backlight problem, but now he tells me that the motherboard heats up quite a bit.
Now the thing is that during repair, he managed to lose the metal covering shield that sits over the processor.
Do you think the loss of this small metal cover is the reason why this phone overheats?
Now I haven't actually Used this phone before, so I cant really say how badly this phone overheats, or if this is a regular issue among Xperia Z's.
(I used to have a Nexus 4 before that seriously heated up to maybe above 50-56 degrees when I played any intensive games. I wonder is the xperia Z like that? )
If he does not find that metal covering, do you think I could use some non conductive thermal paste between the Processor of the phone and glass back to dissipate the heat?
I'm going tomorrow to check out the phone.
Any answers would be highly appreciated!
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overheating is normal for quad core device
if the temp passed 75C so its NOT normal so reflash rom or factory reset!
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Hey Akash - were u able to solve this heating problem. Please do let me know of any tips.