http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
With Knox pre-installed, it won't be possible to customize it...
This is the END of Samsung for me
qipengart said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
This is no different from what's been done before by Samsung and other companies with their devices. Samsung at least gives external storage options still.
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
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Im with you. I love my nexus 5 to death, it's so fast and fluid. I even put purity and franco for the best battery/performance you can get from it. But still, battery life is not that good. I can get max 5 sot without playing games. And thats not enough. I cant have a peace of mind using a device that doesnt have a removable battery. But with my s4 and its battery kit, it's a pleasure to use. I can have 50% of juice left and have the battery kit 100% stand by waiting to be put. With this infinity battery life, i can have a peace of mind using my phone, even for playing emulators.
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harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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Then night as well get the S4 Google play edition
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Skander1998 said:
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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im just wondering if Samsung is going to release a 32Gb model right away or will we have to wait for one like people had to for the s4
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
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Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
karmuh said:
Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
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Most likely carrier locked bootloader.
noideaforusername said:
Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
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Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
piscesjoey said:
Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
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I agree about the 16gb part, but at most carrier bloatware will add maybe 512mb-2014mb. Which the major carriers let you delete some of the crap you don't want no problem.
harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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OR, we can flash the GPE rom later
Related
I doubt this is true, but if it is man I can't wait to get our hands on the firmware.
Samsung GS4 Google Edition (I/O Rumor)
Updated I/O Rumors
App Syncing
Google Streaming Music Service
Yea, that would be pretty sweet. Looking very forward to the exciting news that'll surely come out.
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The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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GiantJay said:
The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going
shabbypenguin said:
if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going
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That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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couldn't you just flash an aosp rom? no bloat.
samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.
It is true,
Just confirmed at Google I/O to sell starting on June 26th in the US for $649.99. All the same specs including 16GB of on board storage. Also throwing in an unlocked bootloader.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/15/go...axy-s4-with-stock-android-for-649-on-june-26/
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I'll love Samsung forever if they give us an official way to get stock Android on all Galaxy s4s
Hear that Samsung. I'll love you forever
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Power to those who want it, but if I wanted pure Google, I'd just get the Nexus 4 or wait for the Nexus 5 to come out around Xmas. The one reason why I love this S4 is for the option of running TW or AOSP. Add a most likely MIUI option down the road and I'm set.
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.
mjs2011 said:
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.
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#firstworldproblems
Fuzzy Wuzzy said:
#firstworldproblems
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Well, my Nexus 7 has also violated my human rights a couple of times (specifically waterboarding), but I didn't think it was worth mentioning in this thread.
Can't wait till this gets ported to other GS4s on different carriers...
Cnet and SlashGear, among others, are saying this is the same version currently out for Tmobile. That's excellent news as the i9505, all its variants - and quite possibly the d2 (i9305) series - are going to get some serious love from Google as a result.
We already have CM radio working for us. The rest should be fairly common between us and Tmobile, meaning that we should see this over on our side in short order.
Guess I have a new project after all....
shabbypenguin said:
no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.
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can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g
samdsox said:
can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g
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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...
shabbypenguin said:
right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...
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well iguess ill have to wait for teh ext to int sd thing
I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.
asuh said:
I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.
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Devs will be surely bringing a version to Sprint, even if Google doesn't. H/w is still the same.
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I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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Temetka said:
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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I know it's my decision to do or not .
Honestly , I think it became more a habit than a necessity for most users.
1. First reason
After many years of owning latest smartphones I know very well which application I cannot live without. So after using pathed versions - for a (long) test purpose - just bought them. So - no need to root from this point.
2. Second reason
Stock UI. Been trying many ROM's with good or bad results and realised that there are never ideal custom soft for your mobile. They caused always some kind of trouble. Maybe the reason is I'm getting older and have no time to dig into system, but lately I decided to stick to preinstalled firmware and as the only modification - to change unuseful Galaxy launcher on similar Galaxy one from Play store. So again - no root needed.
And yes - I got my Note4 rooted. There are two reasons I did this:
1. To get a possibility to add any application shortcut to the bar on the right side. I know I can jump between applications by using the task touch button on the left side but I love to use the bar on the right. Much easier for me.
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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WL8789621 said:
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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as far as I know Lollipop fixes the SD card Problems . Correct me if I am wrong
I'm still on Kit Kat. Was reading about SD on Lolipop and personally I think the new system SD storage improvement is dedicated to developers - not to us and our files whatever they are.
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I've rooted every android phone I have.. The note 3 took me about 8 months of non root use before I rooted to try custom ROMs.. They were great but not essential.
The note 4 running stock no root seems to be rock solid. Produces good enough performance to run anything with ease I chuck at it.. I like root apps. But deem non of them essential in my daily use of my phone. So in my opinion. This phone right now doesn't need root.
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Ive been rooting all my phones the xouple of years and tried allmost every rom. Now i have my note 4 since yesterday but i dont feel the need to root it. Its just fast the way it came with touchwiz. And for the first time i dont disturb the touchwiz it just works on this beast.
So in my opinion i shouldnt root it to make it faster.
Only thing is i cant greenify facebook becouse its a stock app. Does somebody know how i can greenify it ??
Yes
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Greenify? For battery life?
I'm gonna wait for lollipop, and then at least a few updates to that before I root.
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RoyLoy said:
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
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It depends on what you are doing with your phone. If you use mobile banking I recommend you DO NOT use root if so use as much protection as you can. With root you basically control anything - change design, control behavior of you device, control it's CPU and GPU, using different ROMs and more.
I've rooted my S4 and with awesome tools on XDA I was able to revert it and with USB jig make it totally unroot without any evidence of change.
It probably will be on Note 4 however Know could be problem.
I use root, I've SuperSU Pro and also I use Eset Antivirus. Mainly I use Xposed and fantastic X-Note ROM. Also what I love about ROOT is backup - simpy in recovery like TWRP.
Anyway it still depends on you what you wanna do with your phone. You can live without it in stock but at least Android 4.4.4. in Note 4 with Stock ROM is pretty junk on RAM.
Just a personal preference. I specifically root all my devices for two main reasons.
1 adware programs
2 hotspot
Those 2 reasons usually are the only 2 for me. The warranty thing i feel like it doesnt matter for me. I use to keep the sprint insurance on my phones and if i had a prob i could just take it and and get a replacement or repair. Sprint hasnt ever told me they wouldnt fool with my phone because it was rooted. I just bring it in with stock software and most of them dont even know what root is. I swap around phones so much now i just dropped the insurance all together because i figured i was paying 130 dollars a year with the rate increase and i wasnt benefiting from it. I hardly ever use any kind of hotspot and sprint makes u pay 20 dollars extra a month. I dont think i use it enough to justify paying that. I can go 6 months easy without using it. Its just those few and far between cases where it comes in handy.
My 2 cents
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I didn't root my Note 1 or the Sony Z Ultra but I've been looking into rooting the Note 4 due to the phone interface being far too large for the size of the phone screen, the Z Ultra was correctly scaled to suit the larger screen so it made the Note 4 feel very cramped in comparison. I've used the adb trick I found on this forum to adjust the DPI without root which largely works well, it mucks up most of the Samsung applications which is fine as they can be replaced aside from the stock camera application which is meant to get the best out of the camera. The only solution seems to be to root it and set custom application specific dpi's although I'm not finding the misaligned camera screen too much of an issue.
John
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
donkon said:
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
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How will rooting help privacy?
I was lazy about rooting my Note 4 for a while but as soon as I did I realized I should not have waited as long as I did. There is some really solid, stable, streamlined ROMs available right now. The lag on stock is not as noticeable until you've rooted and installed a custom ROM. Now I can truly say the 4 is a beast.
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
zurkx said:
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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LOL
jlczl said:
LOL
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
daffie said:
No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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I think that's what most knowledgeable people do when setting up a new TW phone. The LOL is because that doesn't eliminate the lag that is there. There is so much discussion about this all over, I don't really want to start it all over again here.
Our phones are developmentally dead.
v8dreaming said:
Our phones are developmentally dead.
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sadly yeah, aslong as we could find a way to get root im happy. all i want is adaway.
I don't think it's dead
If they found a way to develop for the S6 edge then I'm sure there's a way for the S7 Edge
Why are they dead? I just got this phone and curious why?
HRodMusic said:
sadly yeah, aslong as we could find a way to get root im happy. all i want is adaway.
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Did you try Adblock Fast that is build into Samsung 4.0? Download from App store and then manually setup using instructions.
I'm using it on my S7 with zero issues and no ads. Of course, limited to Samsung browser.
I'm using adguard which sets up personal VPN on phone to block ads. Seems to work for all apps but does hit battery life a bit. Worth it for me.
martinezma99 said:
Did you try Adblock Fast that is build into Samsung 4.0? Download from App store and then manually setup using instructions.
I'm using it on my S7 with zero issues and no ads. Of course, limited to Samsung browser.
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I have not, is it pretty legit? im gonna give it a go right now.
HRodMusic said:
I have not, is it pretty legit? im gonna give it a go right now.
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Yes. Legit. It got bad ratings but works perfect on my S7. I think people haven't realized you need Samsung Internet 4.0 or it won't work.
origitat said:
Why are they dead? I just got this phone and curious why?
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Bootloaders are locked. Flash secured and all. All us carriers, not the exynos, but all us snapdragons, including tmobile. We are on twitter and got a response from John Legere who claims to be working on a potential solution to at least getting tmobiles unlocked. Historically we have always been fine, but for some reason we aren't now. Doesn't make sense for the exynos to unlocked and SD to be locked imo
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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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jdidtht said:
Bootloaders are locked. Flash secured and all. All us carriers, not the exynos, but all us snapdragons, including tmobile. We are on twitter and got a response from John Legere who claims to be working on a potential solution to at least getting tmobiles unlocked. Historically we have always been fine, but for some reason we aren't now. Doesn't make sense for the exynos to unlocked and SD to be locked imo
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Here's hoping.... I'll buy one the day root drops.
OMG_VTEC said:
Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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I'm sure something will come up eventually. Us folks on ATT are used to being screwed with the locked bootloaders. Think it might be new for T-Mobile users though. It might take a little longer, but ATT Samsung devices typically get root after some point.
I've had it since launch, my Nexus 6 basically died. I miss the debloating root allows, like how I'm forced to have the Directv app when I don't have any interest in having Directv. I do like it though it's a nice phone. If we can get root to remove the bloatware I'm for that otherwise I'll live with it for a year until something better drops.
martinezma99 said:
Yes. Legit. It got bad ratings but works perfect on my S7. I think people haven't realized you need Samsung Internet 4.0 or it won't work.
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I'm using it now as personal VPN on adguard was eating battery. Just make sure to set it for no ads (default is some safe ads). On some ads I was getting occasional pop-up ads.
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I'm forcing myself to stay secured with all the fbi vs apple stuff going on.
rachelm920 said:
I've had it since launch, my Nexus 6 basically died. I miss the debloating root allows, like how I'm forced to have the Directv app when I don't have any interest in having Directv. I do like it though it's a nice phone. If we can get root to remove the bloatware I'm for that otherwise I'll live with it for a year until something better drops.
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You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
stafly17 said:
You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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People are reporting worse battery life after debloating system apps with that on the S7
stafly17 said:
You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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It doesn't remove anything, it just disables apps that are able to be disabled. I can do that myself.
NeoTINS said:
It doesn't remove anything, it just disables apps that are able to be disabled. I can do that myself.
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Yeah I disabled the directv app and some others myself. Glad I have expandable storage so it doesn't hog my memory LOL
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nrfitchett4 said:
I'm using it now as personal VPN on adguard was eating battery. Just make sure to set it for no ads (default is some safe ads). On some ads I was getting occasional pop-up ads.
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VPNs like Adguard don't "eat" battery. What your seeing is that the system attributes all battery used by apps that access the internet to the VPN.
OMG_VTEC said:
Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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Seems like Pre-Lollipop builds were always hacked for root. Also, at least on my S5 G900A, Pre-rooted 5.0 was able to be flashed as long as the BL was kept OA1 (KK 4.4.4). But if you took the OTA to 5.0, no root ever! Also they totally locked it down with 5.1. FU ATT!!!! :laugh::silly:
But they sure did get into that S6 pretty fast, didn't they? Go figure.
I applied to this Samsung Mobile Insights program. Might get a free G935A or G930A if accepted into it. I do not know how I will live without root, but at least it has a sdcard. I do not have a good feeling about a battery that does not come out though...
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol
i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.
CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?
I'm waiting to see before buying
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one
Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...
Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.
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They are rooted at the moment...
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
vibrantliker said:
I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.
Last time I was here was during the HTC EVO days and got my phone rooted. Back than - it increased my battery life and unlocked a lot of capabilities the phone was able to handle.
Nowadays - buying a note 8 seems very powerful as is. These capabilities I spoke of are now there... so what is the purpose nowadays for rooting?
At the moment, I am considering rooting only to remove the bloat and I enjoy a barebones Rom... but even than, 64gb - I dont know if I really should bother or not... convince me please
Grizaje said:
Last time I was here was during the HTC EVO days and got my phone rooted. Back than - it increased my battery life and unlocked a lot of capabilities the phone was able to handle.
Nowadays - buying a note 8 seems very powerful as is. These capabilities I spoke of are now there... so what is the purpose nowadays for rooting?
At the moment, I am considering rooting only to remove the bloat and I enjoy a barebones Rom... but even than, 64gb - I dont know if I really should bother or not... convince me please
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I agree - no rooting. You just introduce instability. This thing is a wicked fast BEAST.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
I root mainly for xposed (not working on the SD Note 8 yet). To edit the csc features xml, to use sixaxis controller app, titanium backup and a few other things. It's true you don't not root on such a bad ass phone like this as it's great is but I enjoy having control over my device.
You won't need root unless you are a developer I don't think, everything we needed root for back in Note 2,3,4 days are now available out of the box or there is an app for it
Grizaje said:
Last time I was here was during the HTC EVO days and got my phone rooted. Back than - it increased my battery life and unlocked a lot of capabilities the phone was able to handle.
Nowadays - buying a note 8 seems very powerful as is. These capabilities I spoke of are now there... so what is the purpose nowadays for rooting?
At the moment, I am considering rooting only to remove the bloat and I enjoy a barebones Rom... but even than, 64gb - I dont know if I really should bother or not... convince me please
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Bk package disabled app should suffice for you
many of the reasons for rooting are still present, mostly boiling down to much greater ability to customize the software, as well as more flexible backup options.
Rooting certainly does not introduce instability, as the phone will continue to run as stock until software is changed/deleted/added to make it 'run' differently.
Get 4k recording with 60 fps (exynos only)
Recover anything thats permanently deleted from internal stprage
More customisation etc
Majin101 said:
Bk package disabled app should suffice for you
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pardon me?
hasibzaman said:
Get 4k recording with 60 fps (exynos only)
Recover anything thats permanently deleted from internal stprage
More customisation etc
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how do I tell if I have a exynos?
Grizaje said:
pardon me?
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That app will help remove bloatware apps.
Grizaje said:
how do I tell if I have a exynos?
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Phone info app on google play store...