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4GB Limit?

Just curious, but I would like to know what is the format of the internal memory of the Xperia Z? Right-clicking it in via windows explorer doesn't show any info regarding that. I'm asking this because I've managed to copy over (drag n' drop via windows explorer) a 4.88 GB file.
Coming from a Galaxy Note previously, I didn't think that it was possible to copy over a file > 4GB (on stock), at least not on a FAT32-formatted internal storage.
So... the question is...
what format is the internal storage? NTFS? (There's talk about how it's limited to only Windows) or exFAT?
...or perhaps I'm totally off-course and it's more of an issue regarding MTP?
Either way, I'm a happy guy with how I can actually not worry about the 4GB limit. Of course, I'm still curious... (Eh, if screenies are required for proof, I'll be more than happy to oblige)

Telomeresis said:
Just curious, but I would like to know what is the format of the internal memory of the Xperia Z? Right-clicking it in via windows explorer doesn't show any info regarding that. I'm asking this because I've managed to copy over (drag n' drop via windows explorer) a 4.88 GB file.
Coming from a Galaxy Note previously, I didn't think that it was possible to copy over a file > 4GB (on stock), at least not on a FAT32-formatted internal storage.
So... the question is...
what format is the internal storage? NTFS? (There's talk about how it's limited to only Windows) or exFAT?
...or perhaps I'm totally off-course and it's more of an issue regarding MTP?
Either way, I'm a happy guy with how I can actually not worry about the 4GB limit. Of course, I'm still curious... (Eh, if screenies are required for proof, I'll be more than happy to oblige)
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Also coming from the Note here, but I didn't had any problem, the Note has the same File System as the XZ

I am sure it will use ext3 a linux/bsd format
Found that it is using ext4 format, so you can drop a 8Gb file there if you want

I bought a MicroSD 32GB (Class 10) but...
- Formatted it ext4 = didn't work
- Formatted it NTFS = didn't work
Unlocked and rooted phone: any way to get a format that then allows me to place file bigger than 4 GB?

Format it to ext4.
Sorry missed your last sentence. But try a different app to format it or try the phone.
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defsix said:
Format it to ext4.
Sorry missed your last sentence. But try a different app to format it or try the phone.
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I tried to format it in ext4, the phone cannot read it, and if I let the phone format it then it will be fat32...
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Internal storage is ext4. This is not changeable.
External storage ext4 formatted should be readable by the phone.
You're rooted? Try to format it to ext4 using the command line/adb shell session.

This has been repeated too many times. The internal memory is ext3 or ext4 and can take any file you throw at it.
SD cards only work in FAT32 (without root and without extra drivers from the Play Store). No matter what you do, without rooting and installing some driver you cannot use anything but FAT32. SD's in EXT3/4 are not mounted, exFAT and NTFS aren't licensed.
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Yes I got it, but as a rooted user how can I solve this?
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schaggo said:
You're rooted? Try to format it to ext4 using the command line/adb shell session.
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Can you give me some more info about this? Thanks

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I dont know, you could google for the information how to format a sdcard to ext4 through adb or a shell.
Another user(s?) further up said though, it wont read ext4 formatted cards. I dont know, I only use a 32GB card and have no big files. My card is fat32 formatted.

This is for the Note 2, but something similar should work for the Xperia Z.

I have rooted my phone, Is there any way to mount exFAT formatted card ?

Hi,
I do not want to start new thread so I am asking here:
Is it possible to format 16 or 32 gb hc card in exFAT by the Xperia Z (not by PC)?
If yes - is it worth doing this?

Problems with 32GB SD Card (SanDisk)

Hi all,
I have a 32GB SD Card (SanDisk) in my Z1. I am using Media Go to transfer my music from my PC to my SD Card on my Z1.
The problem is that only 'some' of my music is transferred across correctly and other albums/tracks play as if they have been encrypted in some sort of way. The music I am transferring is playing correctly on my PC, it is only when I transfer it that it becomes a problem.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
*Just to add, I have no problem transferring the same music across to my 8GB card. I have two brand new 32GB cards and have the same problem of only being able to transfer about half the music, the rest is unrecognisable.*

Have you tried not using media go?

akusokuzan said:
Have you tried not using media go?
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I am using Media Go and straight transferring across to the SD card

Maybe you can try formatting the 32GB SD card and copying all the music onto there again to see if it helps

akusokuzan said:
Maybe you can try formatting the 32GB SD card and copying all the music onto there again to see if it helps
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Re formatted (exFAT) both the 32GB cards I have and still the problem remains that some data/music is not getting transferred. I have just tested a 16GB card (same make and specs as one of the 32GB cards) from my tablet and this works and a 32GB card that didn't work in my Z1 works in my Xperia tablet Z so it seems my Z1 is having a problem with SD cards over 16GB for some reason I don't know

Try Fat32? I find it gives me the least amount of problems. I have a sandisk 64gb in my Z1 and it works just fine. Windows won't format in fat32 natively for such a large size so maybe try the format sd option in android. I believe it does fat32 automatically.

raginginferno said:
Try Fat32? I find it gives me the least amount of problems. I have a sandisk 64gb in my Z1 and it works just fine. Windows won't format in fat32 natively for such a large size so maybe try the format sd option in android. I believe it does fat32 automatically.
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Seconded. Absolutely zero problems with my 64GB Sandisk card formatted as FAT32. Always format SD cards on your phone.

raginginferno said:
Try Fat32?
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Agree, I will suggest to try format in FAT32 because all the SDHC 32GB microSD are meant to use FAT32 natively so I don't know why you formatted a 32GB card in exFAT.
raginginferno said:
I find it gives me the least amount of problems. I have a sandisk 64gb in my Z1 and it works just fine. Windows won't format in fat32 natively for such a large size so maybe try the format sd option in android. I believe it does fat32 automatically.
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Windows will not because you have to use a specified application to format 64GB SDXC natively in exFAT to FAT32.
Z1 support exFAT and will not format in FAT32.
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xasbo said:
Always format SD cards on your phone.
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Absolutely not true. All the High-End devices not support all the formats like exFAT so is recommended to format them via specific application on PC and then insert the card to device. BTW, the phone will format even fake cards without problems, PC will not and you can check them as well.

eclyptos said:
Absolutely not true. All the High-End devices not support all the formats like extFAT so is recommended to format them via specific application on PC and then insert the card to device. BTW, the phone will format even fake cards without problems, PC will not and you can check them as well.
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If you want an SD card to work on a specific phone, why wouldn't you format it on that phone?

xasbo said:
If you want an SD card to work on a specific phone, why wouldn't you format it on that phone?
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Is that specific phone using a special unknown partition system for the card? I don't think so. The phones are this days build with market standards including SDHC and SDXC compatibility. SDHC natively use FAT32, SDXC natively use exFAT. Not all phones support SDXC so the card have to be formatted in FAT32 to make it functional and the only way is to use specific application on PC. Formatting the SD on PC also is more efficient than OS of the phones and the main reason is that OS of any phone can't verified a faulty or fake SD card so you can losing data without even know why.

eclyptos said:
Is that specific phone using a special unknown partition system for the card? I don't think so. The phones are this days build with market standards including SDHC and SDXC compatibility. SDHC natively use FAT32, SDXC natively use exFAT. Not all phones support SDXC so the card have to be formatted in FAT32 to make it functional and the only way is to use specific application on PC. Formatting the SD on PC also is more efficient than OS of the phones and the main reason is that OS of any phone can't verified a faulty or fake SD card so you can losing data without even know why.
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Sorry man, you are usually on point, but with this you are talking nonsense.
I have never seen or heard of an Android phone which didn't use FAT32 or exFAT, nor one that made arbitrary partions. Further, if the phone doesn't support exFAT, obviously it won't format the card to use the exFAT file system. The bit about a PC being more efficient is just total nonsense. I have formatted several different size/brand SD cards on this phone and others without having issues using them in the phone or a PC or other Android device, even. If you can satisfactorily back up anything you've said, I'll change my mind.

xasbo said:
Sorry man, you are usually on point, but with this you are talking nonsense.
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Happen sometimes, no body is perfect.
xasbo said:
I have never seen or heard of an Android phone which didn't use FAT32 or exFAT, nor one that made arbitrary partions.
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I make you and example, I got HTC HD2 with latest Android ICS ported from NEXUS, it not support and it not recognize a 64GB SDXC in exFAT, the only way to make working that card on HD2 is to format it in FAT32 on PC.
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Further, if the phone doesn't support exFAT, obviously it won't format the card to use the exFAT file system.
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Right, but a phone which support exFAT and FAT32 as well will not format the exFAT card to FAT32 end even if he dose the card have huge risk to be compromise. Speaking from experience.
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The bit about a PC being more efficient is just total nonsense. I have formatted several different size/brand SD cards on this phone and others without having issues using them in the phone or a PC or other Android device, even. If you can satisfactorily back up anything you've said, I'll change my mind.
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I never said you CAN'T format the card on the phone. It will work anyway but on PC the formatting will be more deeply efficient because you using specified application to do so. On High-End phones the formatting can be good too but you can't say is well done like on PC.
All the Sl..ts making Blo..bs, but there is always someone who do it much better! Am I wrong? :laugh:

let's go back to the topic.I have the same problem on my Z1 as well.
will this related to a slow (class 4) speed sd card?

FAT_C said:
let's go back to the topic.I have the same problem on my Z1 as well.
will this related to a slow (class 4) speed sd card?
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Absolutely not, the class of the card is not an issue at all. If you have a SDHC have to be in FAT32, check it, just in case. The partition can be corrupted then will be recommended to format the card how you like.
But if your problem is the same as OP mentioned with the same application, to me the app is the main problem. Try to move the files with different application or use different media player to see if the issue still there.

I have put the 32GB cardin my Tablet Z and it's working without error but I can still not get anything over 16GB running on my Z1
Seems a bit strange to me unless it's a random 4.3 problem though I haven't heard any wide spread issues
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N345H said:
I have put the 32GB cardin my Tablet Z and it's working without error but I can still not get anything over 16GB running on my Z1
Seems a bit strange to me unless it's a random 4.3 problem though I haven't heard any wide spread issues
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Yes, seems a bit strange and I will suggest to check the card on PC with h2testw, just in case. If everything is ok with the card then is your phone and probably Android it self, in this scenario I will consider to flash different .290 FW.

eclyptos said:
Yes, seems a bit strange and I will suggest to check the card on PC with h2testw, just in case. If everything is ok with the card then is your phone and probably Android it self, in this scenario I will consider to flash different .290 FW.
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Thanks, I will run a few tests when I can get back to my PC
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I'm using 32GB SanDisk extreme uhs1 and never had a single issue. (well, once cos it was from a faulty batch, but your card doesn't seem to have any of my issues before replacement)
Don't use media go. I think that that's what ruins your music by encoding it like iTunes which z1 doesn't like.
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[Q] How to move 4 Gb file

Hi guys!
Can someone help me with this.
I'm trying to move one file that I've downloaded to internal storage to the sdcard but I can't. File manager says file too big. Any advice? My sdcard has a capacity of 32 Gb.
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albertobom said:
Hi guys!
Can someone help me with this.
I'm trying to move one file that I've downloaded to internal storage to the sdcard but I can't. File manager says file too big. Any advice? My sdcard has a capacity of 32 Gb.
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try to use es file explorer
and copy the file,don't move.
after done copying delete the one you don't want.
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Thank you Ben but already tried that and didn't work. EFBIG (file too large) error. I think it's a sdcard limiting.
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Most likely because the SD card is formatted in FAT32 which has a limit of 4GB. If the destination is NTFS, you should be able to copy it

Can't do files that big on fat 32 I think. 4gb would be okay, but if it's just a little over, no dice. You sure it's less than 4,294,967,295 bytes*?
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albertobom said:
Hi guys!
Can someone help me with this.
I'm trying to move one file that I've downloaded to internal storage to the sdcard but I can't. File manager says file too big. Any advice? My sdcard has a capacity of 32 Gb.
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Only way. Download myphone explorer to pc and connect phone thru wifi. Transfer file to comp and then transfer again to ext sd from comp. Hope that will work.
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Won't work either. File system restrictions are still present even if done another way
Try to use another format. The format of choice would either be exfat or ext4
While ext4 should do the trick I'd prefer exfat since it has windows compatibility. Ext4 isn't natively supported by windows (only Unix based)
Since 32gb is max for fat partitions, the z1 on the other hand supports 64gb cards, it should be able to mount exfat
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HarpingOn said:
Can't do files that big on fat 32 I think. 4gb would be okay, but if it's just a little over, no dice. You sure it's less than 4,294,967,295 bytes*?
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No its over 4 Gb.
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xXFlippyXx said:
Won't work either. File system restrictions are still present even if done another way
Try to use another format. The format of choice would either be exfat or ext4
While ext4 should do the trick I'd prefer exfat since it has windows compatibility. Ext4 isn't natively supported by windows (only Unix based)
Since 32gb is max for fat partitions, the z1 on the other hand supports 64gb cards, it should be able to mount exfat
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So I've to format my sdcard first in exfat or ext4 and try it out, that's it?
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albertobom said:
So I've to format my sdcard first in exfat or ext4 and try it out, that's it?
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Yeah but watch out: reformatting results in an empty partition

[Q] (64GB) SD card format - exFAT vs FAT32

I just got a 64GB Class10 sdcard from Sandisk and it came preformated as exFAT.
I can't format it to FAT32 somehow, I'm only given the option s NFTS and exFAT.
Using Formatting Tools like guiformat.exe are giving me GetLastError()=32...
My Question now would be, would you recommend just using exFAT instead of FAT32?
The Z3C is the only device I own and is on 5.0.2 Stock Rooted.
Thanks in advance, great community!

http://www.partitionwizard.com/
abclpz said:
I just got a 64GB Class10 sdcard from Sandisk and it came preformated as exFAT.
I can't format it to FAT32 somehow, I'm only given the option s NFTS and exFAT.
Using Formatting Tools like guiformat.exe are giving me GetLastError()=32...
My Question now would be, would you recommend just using exFAT instead of FAT32?
The Z3C is the only device I own and is on 5.0.2 Stock Rooted.
Thanks in advance, great community!
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http://www.partitionwizard.com/ I usin it since 2010.

Just use exFAT, I think FAT32 is limited and cannot handle the larger size. I've been using exFAT sincei gut my 64gb card when they first came out

SymbianRefugee said:
Just use exFAT, I think FAT32 is limited and cannot handle the larger size. I've been using exFAT sincei gut my 64gb card when they first came out
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It is limitated but it is possible. Have a external hdd 80gb formatted in fat32.never tried it with micro sd card.

basti2909 said:
It is limitated but it is possible. Have a external hdd 80gb formatted in fat32.never tried it with micro sd card.
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You're right, gosh that takes me back. The old windows 95 and 98 machines could only take up to an 80GB HDD for this reason but then who would every use 80GB? That's HEAPS!

SymbianRefugee said:
You're right, gosh that takes me back. The old windows 95 and 98 machines could only take up to an 80GB HDD for this reason but then who would every use 80GB? That's HEAPS!
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I had the 80gb on my car radio a while ago for the complete music collection xD

Exfat really isn't supported?

That's ridiculous. I'm very disappointed.

That appears to be an new limitation in AOSP 8.1, yes, so maybe not entirely Razer's fault though I guess they could have added it if they want. There appears to be a Magisk module that adds support via fuse if you need it. Search for "vold" in the repo. Haven't tried it yet but it seems to do what you want

HUH?
So what FS is used to format large microSD cards?

mitbit2k3 said:
So what FS is used to format large microSD cards?
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Fat32, exfat requires a payment to Microsoft and I guess they didn't want to
It'll format your cards and it might make you think your card was corrupt and you'll lose your data if it's not blank

I use exfat on my 200gb SanDisk
Just saying

Caffeineshock said:
I use exfat on my 200gb SanDisk
Just saying
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Not on Razer phones

Sure. So how am I using it?

Caffeineshock said:
Sure. So how am I using it?
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The phone formatted it as fat32

Idc how the phone be formats it by default.
You just can use a PC to format it in exfat if you want ?*

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Idc how the phone be formats it by default.
You just can use a PC to format it in exfat if you want ?*
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That's fine but the phone won't read it and will reformat it

Not true
I'm using it in the actual moment on a SanDisk 200gb
I would return the phone if there would be no option to use a filesystem that supports files larger than 4gb

Caffeineshock said:
Not true
I'm using it in the actual moment on a SanDisk 200gb
I would return the phone if there would be no option to use a filesystem that supports files larger than 4gb
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That's not possible. Put the actual card in your computer and post the fs.
Are you sure you mean exfat and not ext?

Wow this is disappointing. no wonder why i couldn't use my sandisk from my sony xz premium because it was formatted in exFAT.

If you use Magisk, install Vold. It will corrupt data first time (at least it did for me) so make a back up of everything before you do, after the corruption I just factory reset, reinstalled everything and it's working fine. I use my 256 gig USB c drive that's formatted as ntfs with it. I haven't tried it yet with other formats.

same question as you.

Does anyone know of an exfat solution similar to VOLD on 9.0?