S5 variants...5422 vs s801 - Galaxy S 5 General

So i am looking at the availability Of the s5 and ebay has both s5 Versions with snapdragon s801 and exynos 5422 available. Unfortunately it is hsdpa only and no lte. Both capable Of 4k recording, exysnos is in hmp Mode with 8 max processors.
801 - 699$
5422 - 749$
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/08/galaxy-s5-variants-get-benchmarked-on-antutu-sm-g900h-and-sm-g900r4/
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5422 in S5 is still unconfirmed, so HMP big.LITTLE is unconfirmed also.

Hmm.. isn't it already launch in india?
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hung2900 said:
5422 in S5 is still unconfirmed, so HMP big.LITTLE is unconfirmed also.
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hung2900, see this
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/08/galaxy-s5-variants-get-benchmarked-on-antutu-sm-g900h-and-sm-g900r4/
and this
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260

copualt3 said:
hung2900, see this
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/02/08/galaxy-s5-variants-get-benchmarked-on-antutu-sm-g900h-and-sm-g900r4/
and this
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7811/samsungs-exynos-5422-the-ideal-biglittle-exynos-5-hexa-5260
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this

hung2900 said:
5422 in S5 is still unconfirmed, so HMP big.LITTLE is unconfirmed also.
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Yes guys.. Sammy announced it in India and they have exynos 5 with hmp enabled! so this is sure and confirmed!

So is the leaked SM-G906S QHD version real? it was apparently spotted on the GFXbench chart with a 2k Res screen and snapdragon 805..Wonder if this is real
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsun...dragon-805-turns-up-in-benchmarks-03-04-2014/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/GFXB...iant-with-1440x2560-screen-resolution_id54712

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Note 4 rom on S5 (G906S)

Found this on a korean web
http://sayanogen.tistory.com/entry/Note4-Firmware-on-Galaxy-S5-광대역-LTEA-SMG906S
Seems like he is using Note 4 from China with TD-LTE
Is there a real difference between S5 and note 4?. Does it worth the change?
prodigiez said:
Found this on a korean web
http://sayanogen.tistory.com/entry/Note4-Firmware-on-Galaxy-S5-광대역-LTEA-SMG906S
Seems like he is using Note 4 from China with TD-LTE
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This is actually pretty cool, since both share nearly identical specs. Anyone dare to try it?
Ofcource Note3 and S5+ gets the ported rom, -.-' devs have no love for this device...
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c4sfer said:
Is there a real difference between S5 and note 4?. Does it worth the change?
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not much diff except OIS on camera and note 4 is running on 2.7ghz
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prodigiez said:
not much diff except OIS on camera and note 4 is running on 2.7ghz
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The build quality of note 4 alone is worth upgrading.. It is indeed the best looking Samsung ever.. I have both s5 and note 4 performance wise I would say my rooted s5 with Alliance rom and custom kernel runs way better than note but that should change in the coming months as note 4 gets better rooms and kernel and touch wiz is finally bearable with a few ui tweaks..
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Note 4, not 3. The S5 has a different processor.
And in any event (sadly) more people like huge phones. C'est la vie.
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Snapdragon 801 for S5 and Snapdragon 805 for Note4, should be possible to port it.
Toobad no ones has the power to do so.
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Sock12345 said:
Snapdragon 801 for S5 and Snapdragon 805 for Note4, should be possible to port it.
Toobad no ones has the power to do so.
Verstuurd van mijn SM-G900F
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The G906s and G901 have snapdragon 805, the same one in the Note 4. The G906S/K are almost identical in hardware to a Note 4 so should it not be easier to port the ROM?
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Sock12345 said:
Snapdragon 801 for S5 and Snapdragon 805 for Note4, should be possible to port it.
Toobad no ones has the power to do so.
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Actually, SD801(which is simply overclocked SD800) is VERY different from SD805 when you come to porting. Especially when you look at modems. While SD801/800 is All-In-One SoC MSM8974 which has integrated modem (and leaves no room in customization by OEM), SD805 is application SoC APQ8084 and uses external modem chip which can be different and gives a lot of customization possibilities (and makes porting task very difficult). Even for different markets, different modems can be used in Note 4. And by itself APQ8084 has a lot of differences comparing to MSM8974.
Lucky G906 users, they have almost the same hardware as Note 4, even screen resolution.
Thnx for explaining guys
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no snapdragon in next generation Galaxy phones?

Does this mean no Snapdragon in Note 5?
http://m.androidcentral.com/report-says-samsung-wont-use-snapdragon-810-upcoming-galaxy-s6
Report says that Samsung won't use Snapdragon 810 in Galaxy S6, overheating issues to blame
By Harish Jonnalagadda | Jan 21 2015 | 4:25 am | 12 Comments
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Over the last few years, Samsung has stuck to a release model for its flagships that sees the inclusion of Qualcomm chips for LTE markets, and Exynos-based variants in South Korea and emerging markets. That may change with the Galaxy S6, as a report out of Bloomberg states that Samsung won't offer a Snapdragon 810 variant of the Galaxy S6 on grounds of overheating issues.
Citing people familiar with the matter, Bloomberg says that Qualcomm's eight-core Snapdragon 810 "overheated during the Korean company's testing," with Samsung finally deciding not to use it altogether. Samsung will instead launch the Galaxy S6 with an in-house Exynos SoC. The South Korean manufacturer has been making huge strides in the field of application processors, with the latest version featuring an integrated LTE modem.
Samsung isn't far off in terms of processing power when seen against Qualcomm's offerings, but the vendor, along with everyone else in the segment including MediaTek, Intel and Nvidia, are miles behind Qualcomm when it comes to LTE modems. For instance, Qualcomm announced that it will offer the Snapdragon 810 with an LTE Category 9 modem that can attain download speeds of up to 450 Mbit/sec.
If Samsung is indeed looking to boycott the Snapdragon 810, it may be in the minority, as LG's G Flex 2 has Qualcomm's eight-core SoC, and HTC's upcoming One M9 is also expected to feature Qualcomm's latest.
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Tswfootball
If Samsung skips it due to overheating issues should we be concerned about flagship devices using it?
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arutemauepon
We don't know if it's real or they just made it up so they can opt for exynos
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rd_nest
Why should they do that when they have been using Qualcomm for past many years? It's a business, not fight among kids where you need to give a useless logic. If Samsung just wanted to use Exynos, they would simply do so without even talking about Qualcomm. There is no logic to giving any sort of explanation.
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Benjamin_NYC
Right. It's a business. And using their own in house chip is cheaper. This is a smoke screen.
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9ersfan3
The Exynos 7 is so powerful it may have the 810 trumped. I wish the SD 805 had issues that forced Samsung to go with only the Exynos 5433 on the note 4, lol. Exynos is now top of the line. The days of the octa 5420 (which is still very powerful) are over. The cat 9 of the 810 is impressive though
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zzzaac
Well it's all rumours until the phone actually shows up, personally don't mind either one, as both the Snapdragon and Exynos (which one though?) seem to be beasts.
But some modders might not like the Exynos
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zizu101
At the HTC event, I would like if AC could ask about this issue. I don't want to get an overheating mess on the m9.
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Benjamin_NYC
LOL AC "editors" don't ask any "questions" that might prove difficult for manufacturers or Google. They simply report the fluff presented to them.
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rd_nest
 @harish Jonnalagadda, why are you mentioning Cat 9 modem as it is of much importance here? Samsung already is planning for in-house Cat 10 modem, so why suddenly Cat 9 be of any importance. Forget Cat 9/10, how many regions can actually exceed Cat 6??
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-exynos-cat10-lte-450mbps,28177....
http://www.gsmarena.com/next_samsung_exynos_soc_rumored_to_feature_cat10...
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Peter Burkes
I have a Samsung Galaxy s5 & its over heating as well. Never had this problem before with any Galaxy phones.
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Mighty_Red
Bit of a worry really, as if it is a problem with the 810 chip itself, the other vendors will have issues. On the other hand, if it is simply the design of the S6 that is to blame for the issues then Sammy are not doing such a great job.
Either way, I'm glad I'll be skipping this years offerings, hopefully 2016 will have stable CPU choices, 2K with no lag and type C USB
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tonybyatt
What are you talking about? There are no 2015 flagships even out yet...
How about waiting for facts before making absurd comments...
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If the overheating issues are a fact, then Samsung would have an edge if they designed a mean SoC. Especially if their competitors are going for the 810.
I've also been missing the Wolfson DAC, since the Exynos version is impossible to find unless I'm looking abroad. Would be nice to have that opportunity.
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
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Yep, same as the S3.
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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lordoftheriffs said:
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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My understanding was that it used separate lte radio. Now days they go for integrated solution
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Glad they are dumping crapdragon (as I call) in favor of exynos, the should have done it long back
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POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
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Agree.
As I've said before, the 810 turns out to be a bad chip.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
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That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
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Hm, I didn't know! Usually, we get the SD where I live. Our S3 was Exynos. I stand corrected.
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
They should put a heatsink fan on s805
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Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom ROM on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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zurkx said:
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
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Agree. I tried out Note 4 with SD at Best Buy and decided to go with Exynos version. The lags and stutters on SD version are too obvious. Also not happy with audio/music quality on SD DAC.
Tom-Helge said:
Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
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You mean you don't give a damn? Anyway, CPU performance is hardly a problem these days. A lot more of it is in software optimization. The support for the SD SoCs is a lot bigger, since it's everywhere. More closed source SoCs, like the Exynos, are only to be found in Samsung's phones. It's harder to develop a proper CM for it due to closed source libs, but some of the most skilled developers in here are still doing some amazing work.
darekz said:
Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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I see, thanks
Personally, I think Samsung should go for the Exynos, as Qualcomm has hardly any competition. With Samsung being one of the biggest manufacturers, I think it can make a huge difference. If Samsung is just consistent, using only the Exynoses in their flagships at least.
Exynos Note 4 users can expect a increase in Android development if the chip used in the S6 is similar enough =)
Qualcomm to provide Samsung with a modified Snapdragon 810:
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_to_provide_samsung_with_a_modified_snapdragon_810-news-10895.php

Exynos Note 4 vs Snapdragon Note 7

Has someone made a speed test comparing these two?
Would love to see this but haven't spotted this comparison yet on youtube.
For those of you with both devices, how do they compare speed wise?
Try a search in Google - many comparisons come up as options!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...5-P4Yo280xApQlOxA&sig2=yoDuGidyOESQLWLFYcr5vg
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...lFbYHWo-eeooXLZAQ&sig2=-zt5PkH3oedWRW10Un_CzA
and many more!
tiguy99 said:
Has someone made a speed test comparing these two?
Would love to see this but haven't spotted this comparison yet on youtube.
For those of you with both devices, how do they compare speed wise?
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Own both models, but why would you compare a 2yr old phone with a newer model?
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tiguy99 said:
Has someone made a speed test comparing these two?
Would love to see this but haven't spotted this comparison yet on youtube.
For those of you with both devices, how do they compare speed wise?
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why would you want the exynos note 4?
it has ancient Cat.4 modems not integrated into chipset, and many users still complaining about connectivity issues.
snapgragon Note 4 has Cat.6 qualcomm modem that is way better.
lisbon2004 said:
why would you want the exynos note 4?
it has ancient Cat.4 modems not integrated into chipset, and many users still complaining about connectivity issues.
snapgragon Note 4 has Cat.6 qualcomm modem that is way better.
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For the heck of it and reasons like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLy9LZppXYE
Just curious how the 2 year old N910C compares to the Snapdragon 820 based Note 7
Being a tech person....kinda like stuff like this
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Own both models, but why would you compare a 2yr old phone with a newer model?
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Is it possible for you to do a speed test?
Also how much faster is the Snapdragon 820 vs. the Exynos 5433 processor?
tiguy99 said:
Has someone made a speed test comparing these two?
Would love to see this but haven't spotted this comparison yet on youtube.
For those of you with both devices, how do they compare speed wise?
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I just did snapdragon is faster. It was unlocked note 7 snapdragon vs unlocked note 4 exynos

so is exynos vulnerable to meltdown or spectre?

I haven't seen anything specific about the exynos chipset yet?
yep NSA already have a copy of your porn collection
A handful of cortex cores are affected so any exynos chip using one of those cores will be affected. Arm has a list of affected cores.
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update
Are Samsung's later Exynos CPU's using fully custom cores? Or are they modified versions of existing ARM architectures?
The Snapdragon 820 and 835 CPU's use customised variants of the A72 and A73 cores, though Qualcomm use their own name.
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Are Samsung's later Exynos CPU's using fully custom cores? Or are they modified versions of existing ARM architectures?
The Snapdragon 820 and 835 CPU's use customised variants of the A72 and A73 cores, though Qualcomm use their own name.
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Pretty sure they're their own cores.. with that LITTLE big design... I assume that design is still in use
Edit: Nope I was wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos#List_of_ARMv8_Exynos_SoCs
> Exynos 9 Octa 8895
> Cortex-A53 (GTS)
So It looks like its immune to these issues:
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update
So far from recent reports all current CPUs are affected by the hack.
iceepyon said:
So far from recent reports all current CPUs are affected by the hack.
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TBH it is a VERY large number of current and recent and not so recent CPU's are affected.
Close enough to all of them that finding one that are NOT affected is a rare thing.
What about performance after installing January 2018 security patch on Samsung devices ?
We will se any performance issues ?
Contacted samsung asking about whether 8895 is affected by spectre bug. In an email reply, they didnt specifically mention if its affected, but said that the december security patch is to solve it.
In another word, 8895 is affected.
According to this:
https://security.samsungmobile.com/securityUpdate.smsb
Spectre and Meltdown is fixed in January 2018 patch.
Similiar case was with Krack and Blueborne. For example they fixed it in Security level month 2, but I got this fixed with Security level month 1 update. So Spectre and Meltdown could be fixed too in december security patch.
Is Snapdragon vulnerable?
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Is Snapdragon vulnerable?
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The snapdragon used in the note 8 is vulnerable to spectre. Its the same chip used in the LG v30
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....snapdragon-835-meltdown-spectre-t3732140/amp/

Samsung Galaxy Note 8 vs Note 9 (8GB) - Speed Test

I wanted to create a dedicated thread for this. Speed test between the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 (8GB) and the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. Which one launches applications and games faster, which one gets better benchmark (Antutu and Geekbench) scores, find out in this video.
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I can tell you my note 8 was 200000 or so on antutu, note 9 was 284000. Haven't run geekbench yet.
Edit.... geekbench 4 note 8 sc 1850 mc 6646
Note 9 sc 2432 mc8863
even though it pretty much the same hardware as the S9+ it is also faster than that phone too.
nuclearrage said:
I can tell you my note 8 was 200000 or so on antutu, note 9 was 284000. Haven't run geekbench yet.
Edit.... geekbench 4 note 8 sc 1850 mc 6646
Note 9 sc 2432 mc8863
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Is your one the snapdragon variant?
Iain_S said:
even though it pretty much the same hardware as the S9+ it is also faster than that phone too.
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Probably the software is better optimised now.
xdaman85 said:
Is your one the snapdragon variant?
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US Unlocked Snapdragon
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US Unlocked Snapdragon
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I was testing the Exynos devices.

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