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Samsung Galaxy S5 Prime

Samsung is rumoured to have a version called the 2K Galaxy S5 Prime up its sleeve. As the name suggests, it'll have a 2K screen, also known as QHD (as in "Quite High Definition", no, okay "quad HD"), packing 2560x1440 pixels rather than the current S5's 1920x1080.
Within Samsung's hallowed halls, the 2K Galaxy S5 Prime is said to be known by the codename 'KQ', with the model number SM-G900. A handset with that model number was recently spotted on a shipping database. It's reportedly being used for research and development purposes.
So why not launch the S5 with the better screen in the first place? That was the plan, according to SamMobile, but it was abandoned due to production issues. These are currently being ironed out, and the hi-res S5 should be with us this year.

Hopefully it is soon. It would be nice if they offered some type of trade in for all the people who might want to upgrade from the s5. I think moto did something similar with the X? They gave people the option to return theirs for a wood back one for 50 bucks or something.
Although it might not be worth it. Would need to have similar battery life or that would be a deal breaker.
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Samsung to launch Galaxy S5 Prime in June
This is what I hope:
1. At least 32GB for internal memory.
2. The replaceable/removable battery.
3. A micro SD card slot for external storage of up to 128GB.
In addition to all of the other enhancements over the current S5.

I will have no respect for Samsung if this is true. They outright said to us that there will be no "premium" Galaxy S5. If that is true, it might not be an "S5" it might be part of another series.

These are the specs released on the news.
Samsung Galaxy S5 Prime Specifications:
5.2” , 2560 x1440 display
2.5 GHz quad core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor
Andreno 420 GPU
3 GB RAM
32 GB of storage
16 MP camera
2 MP front camera
Android 4.4.2 KitKat

Another thread about this?
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hemander said:
Samsung to launch Galaxy S5 Prime in June
This is what I hope:
1. At least 32GB for internal memory.
2. The replaceable/removable battery.
3. A micro SD card slot for external storage of up to 128GB.
In addition to all of the other enhancements over the current S5.
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#3 already exists for our phone
Hellscythe said:
I will have no respect for Samsung if this is true. They outright said to us that there will be no "premium" Galaxy S5. If that is true, it might not be an "S5" it might be part of another series.
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agreed...the VP of samsung said a prime is a no-go...
if he was lying just to increase sales of the s5 instead of having people hold out, screw samsung...ill never buy from that deceiving company again....and this is coming from someone who had a s2, s3, s4, note 10, note 8, original samsung tab 10, etc

hemander said:
These are the specs released on the news.
Samsung Galaxy S5 Prime Specifications:
5.2” , 2560 x1440 display
2.5 GHz quad core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 processor
Andreno 420 GPU
3 GB RAM
32 GB of storage
16 MP camera
2 MP front camera
Android 4.4.2 KitKat
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Those were actually the initial rumoured specs for the generic S5... So whichever journalist dug those up should be fired for being incredibly slow.

planned marketing
Yeah they do that kind of thing all the time, release a nice phone with a few features of current technology missing, then a few months later they release one with the better tech so people upgrade. If there aren't free upgrades (which there won't be since it's not a fault) it's just a planned marketing strategy to make more money. yay!

I dont think they will release anything else to kill the S5 they have just released this year. They smart enough not to **** with those who has purchased the S5.

Analyst assumptions was the S5 Prime was to shore up their product offering before the two new iPhones launch, but now it is reported the new Prime might just be a small launch due to cost of display production.
If this is true, the iPhone 6 will likely destroy Samsung in sales. First big iPhone display and an even faster/efficient chipset than the i7, which is already faster than the S801. This might be the first time since the S2 where the iPhone trumps Samsung.
I am not an iPhone fan, so do not find this potential scenario of revived dominance a good thing. I do like the iPad Air though, in spite of my Android affliction. That said, Kitkat's killing of sd card writes ofr third party apps is making Android more like iOS....

rushless said:
Analyst assumptions was the S5 Prime was to shore up their product offering before the two new iPhones launch, but now it is reported the new Prime might just be a small launch due to cost of display production.
If this is true, the iPhone 6 will likely destroy Samsung in sales. First big iPhone display and an even faster/efficient chipset than the i7, which is already faster than the S801. This might be the first time since the S2 where the iPhone trumps Samsung.
I am not an iPhone fan, so do not find this potential scenario of revived dominance a good thing. I do like the iPad Air though, in spite of my Android affliction. That said, Kitkat's killing of sd card writes ofr third party apps is making Android more like iOS....
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I think that if Samsung released the S5 Prime, then it would anger a LOT of people.
However, I'm not quite sure how you got the impression that Apple's Cyclone based A7 chip is faster than the i7. Quite simply put, it's not.
Look at the Geekbench comparison down further on the page: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4700MQ-vs-Apple-A7
Even if the score were four times higher, it still wouldn't match up with the MOBILE version of the i7 Haswell.
Things get spaced even farther apart when you compare it to a desktop class i7 Haswell: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Apple-A7
I agree with you in terms of iPhone 6 sales outpacing that of the S5. Apple usually sells more, and has more loyal followers.
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P.S. If anything I've said above is incorrect, feel free to let me know.

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Note 4 S-LTE , SM-N916 - General Duscussion

Hi all,
Just wanted to start some discussion here on the new variant of the Note 4.
Supposed to be coming with the Exynos 5433 and South Korea release only.
Personally I've got the S5 and have been very tempted by the Note 4 but 64 bit support and much faster/better battery life sounds like the one.
The S6 might be pretty great too though. We'll see what the exporters are offing this for soon enough I guess (supposed to launch this week).
What are your thoughts?

It's been out at Korean carriers for a bit now.
Comes in some new colours.
Some online resellers are starting to carry it.
28mobile for one has it now at about 1k usd. Their prices are a bit high I find.
welectronics has it for $849 usd. Confirms it's running 5.0.1
Looks like xtmobile has it for about $700 usd.
Think it's running 5.0.1. Bit of conflicting info around.

Yes it's available at some stores like 28mobile however that benchmark was done Dec 10 when they were testing it with the Snapdragon 810, at 64-bit from what it seems.
It is released with Exynos 5433 and 3-band CA CAT 9 Support as you can also see on the pictures of the packaging on 28mobile.
Also Samsung site confirms it is the 1.3 1.9 octacore CPU:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N916SZRESKO
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JNetwork said:
Yes it's available at some stores like 28mobile however that benchmark was done Dec 10 when they were testing it with the Snapdragon 810, at 64-bit from what it seems.
It is released with Exynos 5433 and 3-band CA CAT 9 Support as you can also see on the pictures of the packaging on 28mobile.
Also Samsung site confirms it is the 1.3 1.9 octacore CPU:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N916SZRESKO
or
https://translate.googleusercontent...ZRESKO&usg=ALkJrhhODbIyZAjzJv3BWoig5g2YFVYdBw
If you don't know korean.
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Yeah. I questioned that benchmark. Multicore seemed a little slow and 5.0 is listed which isn't right.
I was aware it's the 5433 and not 810 but this updated version is supposed to be 64 bit.

Yeah, the most recent benchmark of SM-N916S:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1883762
shows it runs 32-bit Android 5.0.1.

JNetwork said:
Yeah, the most recent benchmark of SM-N916S:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1883762
shows it runs 32-bit Android 5.0.1.
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Thanks. Not sure how I didn't see that before..
Dammit.. No 64 bit. That's dissapointing.

has anyone purchased this phone? i got mine a few days ago and didn't even notice it was not the general note 4 (SM-N910S) in korea.

I got the N916S the other day. Apart from some SKT bloatwares (which I have disabled or hidden) and some issue with the 70 characters maximum in messages, there are no issue using it.
This is probably the rarest variant of the note 4 so atm I haven't found any rom cooks or how-to-root for it yet

N916 is rootable. I have the kt variant and as long as you can follow a tutorial written in Korean you're good.
As far as ROMs go, I am wondering if the exynos based ROMs for the N910 will work. The hardware should be identical aside from the radios.

tbuckley said:
N916 is rootable. I have the kt variant and as long as you can follow a tutorial written in Korean you're good.
As far as ROMs go, I am wondering if the exynos based ROMs for the N910 will work. The hardware should be identical aside from the radios.
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Anyway you could translate those instructions for those of us who don't read korean?

I just got mine yesterday. I'm getting a hard time looking for custom ROMs and rooting instructions

Hi I have this version of Note 4 (N916S) and I want to root it but I dont know which tutorial should I read. I don't know which version of Note 4 should I follow. is it N910C or N910H. Do you guys have any recommendation thread about this? already asked in Q&A Thread but no response

Would you still buy the note9?

Hello there!
Been a long time since I have taken a look on the forums, been a while away from samsung phones, but I still get attracted to the note 9
Read and heard some good and bad things about the note and coming from Oneplus (i have the 5) I was wondering if people would still buy the note with the knowledge you have now after using it for a couple of months..
Now with pie and the the new Samsung one ui i get even more tempted to make a switch back to Samsung..

Now with pie, yes in this context it is worth to buy. I have two, geez!!!

Note 9 is the best overall by far. So much functionality and features inside a premium device. I used 2 pixel 3, one normal and other XL, and despite the camera, I couldn't see nothing better than Note.
I'm a heavy camera user. Stock camera is great and now with Gcam working on it nothing beats this device.
In my opinion, Samsung software is the most complete at the moment.

Absolutely the Note 9 is worth it. Everything runs perfectly and pair it together with the Night Sight Gcam, there's almost no reason to look at other phones on the current market.

Cristiano Matos said:
Note 9 is the best overall by far. So much functionality and features inside a premium device. I used 2 pixel 3, one normal and other XL, and despite the camera, I couldn't see nothing better than Note.
I'm a heavy camera user. Stock camera is great and now with Gcam working on it nothing beats this device.
In my opinion, Samsung software is the most complete at the moment.
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Where can I find GCam for the Note 9?
Thanks in advance

diego9016 said:
Where can I find GCam for the Note 9?
Thanks in advance
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In these forums under the apps, themes section.

And do you use exynos or the snapdragon version?

Best phone I've ever owned! LOVE the S Pen functionality and I have had no issues at all. Not rooted and easily get 7 hrs odd SoT, all round brilliant device. I have the exynos version.
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Hands down a great Phone! EXynos!!

I'd buy it in a heartbeat today (Exynos). But that's coming form a traditional Note user. Been on this series since my Note 1 on AT&T.

Awesome Smartphone, Samsung truly has given us tons of features with this smartphone! i still got tons more to learn! Some people are saying the Huawei Mate 20 Pro is in some ways better!
i dont know if i could agree, there Amoled display are good. But not as Good as the Samsung AMOLED.. Also battery easily 7 hours on screen time and that's without root.. Huawei Mate 20 Pro they use really aggressive battery management tweaks witch leads to bugs!
The note 9 camera rocks. We had G-Cam working but the PIE ONE UI killed that. i'm sure some dev will find a way around to get it working again..
if you are after an really powerfull smartphone then NOTE9 is the way to go! if you wont gimmicks and stuff get the Huawei Mate 20 Pro!

At this point I'd save up for the Note 10. Pie should be better optimized with the hardware since its being built ground up with pie.
Rumor(hasnt been confirmed but based on "leaks"):
Bigger screen
Bigger Battery
Three cameras
Near bezel-less design.
faster charging solution

worldsoutro said:
At this point I'd save up for the Note 10. Pie should be better optimized with the hardware since its being built ground up with pie.
Rumor(hasnt been confirmed but based on "leaks"):
Bigger screen
Bigger Battery
Three cameras
Near bezel-less design.
faster charging solution
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...and probably $1800.00 based on the S10 Reports... ugh!

jimd1050 said:
...and probably $1800.00 based on the S10 Reports... ugh!
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I saw that and I just don't believe it. Samsung know the markets had changed and sales haven't been as good. I expect around 1k with some decent trade ins to boot.
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Not saying 1k+ is not too much because it is! Flagship prices are out of control.
Funny that where the O6T is priced is what flagships used to cost.

Now? I would wait for S10 to be shown to know direction of Note10 changes. Every year when S series is presented, you have glimpse about Note series design and functions, yes? So this year will be no different, and i would count on price drop of Note9, but yes - i would buy it again i think. Someone mentioned about prices - it`s getting pretty high, year after year so note9 was very expensive at start, and Note10? I can`t imagine price tag of this one. $1999 for best option (probably 10-12 gigs of ram and 1TB of space?) - nevertheless, note9 is enough for few years, maybe note 12 will be one i will look for, or note 13?

Would I buy it again? Probably yes, if the price is right. But the exynos version is imho still way behind the snapdragon version, sadly. This was thoroughly tested by anandtech for the S9+ and later confirmed for the Note 9. It's a pain in the ass to see that Samsung includes two different SOCs in their products which, this time around, provide a different user experience. The story apparently continues with the S10 and most likely the Note 10 respectively with the exynos version being the inferior version of the two, in terms of efficiency and LTE performance.
All that aside, the Note 9 is easily the best phone I've ever owned with a great and most complete set of features. If you can live with the SOC issue, the high cost and the huge dimensions of the device, you will be fine. It's a great device. Eventhough I personally don't like the PIE update apart from the gesture navigation.

here is johnny said:
Hello there!
Been a long time since I have taken a look on the forums, been a while away from samsung phones, but I still get attracted to the note 9
Read and heard some good and bad things about the note and coming from Oneplus (i have the 5) I was wondering if people would still buy the note with the knowledge you have now after using it for a couple of months..
Now with pie and the the new Samsung one ui i get even more tempted to make a switch back to Samsung..
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Only if you can get the snapdragon version. Not only it's superior for gaming, battery life, smoothness, multitasking, emulation and app loading/transitioning - but the one UI on the exynos note 9 is less smooth than even oreo, really disappointed on that one. Phone priced at 1000 euro with UI smoothness of midrange phone + they f up the multitasking on android 9 and made it like google's implementation... slow to use, not convenient to use, less features...
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OberstGrausam said:
Would I buy it again? Probably yes, if the price is right. But the exynos version is imho still way behind the snapdragon version, sadly. This was thoroughly tested by anandtech for the S9+ and later confirmed for the Note 9. It's a pain in the ass to see that Samsung includes two different SOCs in their products which, this time around, provide a different user experience. The story apparently continues with the S10 and most likely the Note 10 respectively with the exynos version being the inferior version of the two, in terms of efficiency and LTE performance.
All that aside, the Note 9 is easily the best phone I've ever owned with a great and most complete set of features. If you can live with the SOC issue, the high cost and the huge dimensions of the device, you will be fine. It's a great device. Eventhough I personally don't like the PIE update apart from the gesture navigation.
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This with both hands, snapdragon 955 will make a joke of the exynos 9820 the same way sd845 makes a joke of the exynos 9810. Also I clearly see lags in the animations in android 9, more so vs the oreo (that is actually proven to be A LOT smoother with the snapdragon SOC!!!). I am so disappointed from that SOC and the funny part is that we in Europe PAID MORE, 1000 euro is 1140 us dollars currently. SOC is like buying the most expensive computer both me and you, but I receive the best possible cpu, gpu, ssd, etc while you receive midrange cpu, gpu, ssd, motherboard and so on. There is no excuse and really important for the longevity of the phone and the experience with it... wish we had the apple's A12 in the note 9 tbh, but that's another topic (sadly I dislike a lot about apple to buy an iphone just because of the great SOC). We already see a problem with longevity (and don't me even get started on the gaming part as there is absurd difference + yes, I game on my phone), I am sure the snapdragon will be a lot smoother on the new android and UI.

@high_voltage , I agree. It's a bit of a let down that everyone despite the american users only get the second best version of the Note 9. It wouldn't be a big issue for me if Samsung in europe also provides warranty for the snapdragon variant. Sadly thats not the case and thus you are either stuck with the exynos version or you risk to get snapdragon version which might, as every phone might, develop some issues over time. In addition, Samsung makes it harder to use different phones in different regions due to their region lock.
As of now, the new snapdragon seems to be superior again but I guess we have to wait and see how it'll turn out. It wasn't always the case though, the S8 exynos version was superior to the snapdragon one based on what've read. Sadly, the One UI really fells inferior to the "old" Samsung UX, but it might get more polished over time. I still think that Samsung is able to pull it off since it has done so with the S9s when they were introduced.
So yeah, I'd buy the Note 9 again because I love the features and the SPen, eventhough I hate to be forced to spend more money on only the second best option available.

OberstGrausam said:
@high_voltage , I agree. It's a bit of a let down that everyone despite the american users only get the second best version of the Note 9. It wouldn't be a big issue for me if Samsung in europe also provides warranty for the snapdragon variant. Sadly thats not the case and thus you are either stuck with the exynos version or you risk to get snapdragon version which might, as every phone might, develop some issues over time. In addition, Samsung makes it harder to use different phones in different regions due to their region lock.
As of now, the new snapdragon seems to be superior again but I guess we have to wait and see how it'll turn out. It wasn't always the case though, the S8 exynos version was superior to the snapdragon one based on what've read. Sadly, the One UI really fells inferior to the "old" Samsung UX, but it might get more polished over time. I still think that Samsung is able to pull it off since it has done so with the S9s when they were introduced.
So yeah, I'd buy the Note 9 again because I love the features and the SPen, eventhough I hate to be forced to spend more money on only the second best option available.
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Some of the things in the one UI are great and polished, but not everything and that sad, as it's literally "samsung rushed the update" type of comment shaping while they had so much time for development and beta testing...
For the exynos vs snapdragon it was like that:
s6 exynos was vastly superior to the flawed snapdragon 810 nicknamed "the oven"
s7 exynos was superior in the CPU part to the snapdragon 820 - better battery life, better CPU, less heat, better DAC (i.e. better audio via headphones), but had weaker GPU (but by not that much!). Overall better SOC!
s8 exynos was same as speed in CPU as the snapdragon 835, but less heat and longer battery life. The DAC was also better. The GPU was noticeable slower tho even in that generation. It was no clear winner, for gaming - sd variant, otherwise the exynos.
s9 exynos is where all fall apart - CPU is a lot slower in real world (and all benches except geekbench too, mind you), the GPU is roflmao slower, the DAC in the new snapdragon 845 is vastly improved and similar to the wolfson/lucky in the exynos, battery life on the snapdragon is better WHILE being faster. The only part where the exynos is still better is that in heavy loads the phone is colder and... that's all. This year the difference was absurdly big to the point that every single review before launch was snapdragon variant as samsung send ONLY those to the popular reviewers.
Sadly, and I am talking as a "tech heavy" person that is really into electronics as a hobby and professionally - the new exynos 9820 will still lag behind even by samsungs own projections. Read a lot, it will be worse in every department vs the snapdragon 855 and both will be vastly behind the apple's A12, more competing with the iphone X A11. Sad story, really... this samsung practice should be more exposed so they can stop it. Every person on that forum that had both variants infront of him said the same thing: "I came prepared for a difference into this, but didn't expect it to be that big!" then returned the exynos while keeping the snapdragon 845 one.

Without hesitation I absolutely love my Note 9(Snapdragon). It's battery is nearly on the level of my V20 with an extended battery. With the Pie beta so far the device is on a level of its own. If you have the opportunity just buy it.

Exyons vs Snapdragon

Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance

Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better

keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Actually Exynos devices are sold in the EU, Austrailia and parts of the middle East. The US and East Asia use Snapdragon devices.

keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!
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oh? https://youtu.be/3l-7uFhSKGw

Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance
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The snapdragon version is better in every possible way - GPU (on average 30% faster), the CPU (in every real world scenario or bench, except geekbench), better battery life. That said, the exynos 9810 is perfectly capable to run PUBG maxed out smoothly. I tested it in android oreo on my exynos note 9. It's possible that the game has some issues with the pie update, as the new GPU driver is actually giving around 10% more performance in every scenario.

I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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robinnl192 said:
I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.

Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
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You have to wait next pie updates. Exynos is the best chipset on device market but always has been limited due to battery and device safety.

N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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You're trying too hard my friend. In the end all that matters is real life performance... and since the Galaxy S8, the Exynos has been biting the dust. (The Exynos S7 was actually faster than the Snapdragon S7 in real-life screnarios though, except in 3D performance).
I'm not saying the Exynos is a mediocre SoC, but clearly Samsung failed to deliver for some time now. Today, in 2019, the Snapdragon variant of the S9/N9 is without a doubt the one to get if your cell. network is supported. The Snapdragon 845 is also more efficient and less power-hungry.

robinnl192 said:
I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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True and wrong. It's true that the M3 cores has a lot of brute power and also it's true that there is a lot of room for improvements regarding 9810 control... sadly as you said it was rushed, half baked, android 9 improves it a bit but still it's like 1/4 of the max potential and as we know - new phones are coming with new SOC's and this will be leaved as it is, sadly. Wrong in the meaning that the exynos 9810 can't beat snapdragon 945, because if you unleash it the power consumption would be insane and it will lead to a lot of heat, throttling (thermal), poor sustain from those two and really bad screen on time. And this is only the CPU, the GPU is no contest at all - the adreno is around 30% faster (depending on the workload)... atleast we got around 10% higher scores with the newer driver in the android 9 tho. Also wrong in the meaning that the only CPU bench that puts exynos on top is the geekbench, every other CPU test or bench is giving the first place to the sd845, including the more close to real world tests like pcmark. I have the exynos note 9 btw.

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This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
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Allright! Didn't know they came back more. Good to know.
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SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....

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SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....
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Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.

I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.

roaduardo said:
I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.
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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.

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Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.
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in my heart of hearts, I'll take any advantage I can to tip the scales on my side. why? because I can.
nothing ventured nothing gained.
and again benchmark numbers VS benchmark numbers,
the line really is thinner. no longer is it 30% on GPU and what ever it was on CPU

Luv my EXynos Note 9! ftw

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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.
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Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.

roaduardo said:
Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.
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well the 9600 would be the best of both worlds. just not much development. but then again note 9 exynos developemnt is not much anyways. There seems to be a bigger community around on telegram with roms that have more mods than what we currently have on xda...
but I feel content with my n960n.

Which model to buy? Snapdragon or Exynos?

Hi all, I'm planning to buy note 9 dual sim but I'm in confusion to buy snapdragon model or Exynos model. I have searched a lot & found that snapdragon version in much faster than exynos. I also noted that rooting & customization stuff is mostly available for Exynos model.
So, which one to buy? I want to root it & flash custom rom in it. Please help.
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Just want to give you a warning not do this if you want to use Samsung pay and Samsung pass. So unlocking bootloader will trigger the safety thing in the knox chip which permanently breaks the Knox chip so apps like Samsung pay, Samsung pass secret folder wont function anymore since they need working Knox chip to work. Also encryption may break aswell since Knox stores the encryption keys I think.

Jake.S said:
Just want to give you a warning not do this if you want to use Samsung pay and Samsung pass. So unlocking bootloader will trigger the safety thing in the knox chip which permanently breaks the Knox chip so apps like Samsung pay, Samsung pass secret folder wont function anymore since they need working Knox chip to work. Also encryption may break aswell since Knox stores the encryption keys I think.
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Yes i know that. Samsung pay is not useful for me as i use other payment methods. So which model should i buy?
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You pretty much answered your own question. Most of the community development happens on Exynos, so if you want to flash anything, get an Exynos variant.

If you live in the US then you would need to purchase the SnapDragon variant to get LTE/4G reception. As the Exynos variant isn't support for use in the US.

JimzFreebies said:
Yes i know that. Samsung pay is not useful for me as i use other payment methods. So which model should i buy?
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It's your choice really. Keep in mind that there are not a lot of ROM/kernels (currently 1 kernel )/specific modifications for the exynos note 9. You won't get a lot out of it, imagine after a year - it will be totally dead in development. What you will get is vastly inferior phone with 30% slower GPU, worse battery life, slower apps loading, slower multitasking, UI frame drops. The sd845 is not somewhat better, it runs circles around the exynos 9810. Yep, I have the exynos note 9. So if you want 3-4 ROMS and 1 kernel currently that will be gone when s10/note 10 comes out - go for the SOC that is more a midrange category for the price of the highend variant.
Will just say that few XDA fellow members got their hands over the both variants, all of them coming prepared for a difference. All of them said the difference is a lot bigger than what they expected, kept the snapdragon and returned the exynos.

high_voltage said:
It's your choice really. Keep in mind that there are not a lot of ROM/kernels (currently 1 kernel )/specific modifications for the exynos note 9. You won't get a lot out of it, imagine after a year - it will be totally dead in development. What you will get is vastly inferior phone with 30% slower GPU, worse battery life, slower apps loading, slower multitasking, UI frame drops. The sd845 is not somewhat better, it runs circles around the exynos 9810. Yep, I have the exynos note 9. So if you want 3-4 ROMS and 1 kernel currently that will be gone when s10/note 10 comes out - go for the SOC that is more a midrange category for the price of the highend variant.
Will just say that few XDA fellow members got their hands over the both variants, all of them coming prepared for a difference. All of them said the difference is a lot bigger than what they expected, kept the snapdragon and returned the exynos.
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Actually i like customizations & i use many apps which require root. I don't really use Custom Kernels. Only custom roms are my requirement & i modify other stuff in it myself for my personal use[emoji38]
So which one variant u recommend me? And what about s9+ snapdragon?
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JimzFreebies said:
Actually i like customizations & i use many apps which require root. I don't really use Custom Kernels. Only custom roms are my requirement & i modify other stuff in it myself for my personal use[emoji38]
So which one variant u recommend me? And what about s9+ snapdragon?
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I think it's obvious which one I recommend - the snapdragon 945 note 9. For me it's: midrange phone with root or highend phone without root. It's not equal category that I decide between. Go at anandtech and search for Andrei's articles on 9810 and also there is one from December that directly put exynos note 9 vs sd note 9.
Between s9+ snapdragon and note 9 snapdragon - the note 9, it got a lot bigger battery, a lot better SOC cooling (important for the sd845 especially), s-pen, lower angle on the edges, bigger screen (albeit slightly).
Edit: you would be surprised how good is the spen for diablo 2 when the phone is on the table.

high_voltage said:
I think it's obvious which one I recommend - the snapdragon 945 note 9. For me it's: midrange phone with root or highend phone without root. It's not equal category that I decide between. Go at anandtech and search for Andrei's articles on 9810 and also there is one from December that directly put exynos note 9 vs sd note 9.
Between s9+ snapdragon and note 9 snapdragon - the note 9, it got a lot bigger battery life, a lot better SOC cooling (important for the sd845 especially), s-pen, lower angle on the edges, bigger screen (albeit slightly).
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Thanks for ur recommendation. One last question. I have checked note 9 forum here and found that snapdragon variant doesn't have any custom rom with it. But exynos has couple of custom roms that are active.
I know snapdragon is faster n better than exunos but it has no custom rom as compared to exynos variant. So much confusion in buying[emoji26]
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iceepyon said:
If you live in the US then you would need to purchase the SnapDragon variant to get LTE/4G reception. As the Exynos variant isn't support for use in the US.
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I live in India
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JimzFreebies said:
I live in India
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You are better off getting the Note 8 from your local retailer to ensure that you get the correct model for your country.