[Q] Wrist flick to turn on - Samsung Gear 2 Neo

Hi, I'm about to go for a Neo (don't need a camera), but the reason i returned my original gear was the "turn your wrist to turn the screen on" motin was either
- Too unreliable - meaning i'd be twisting my wrist like a fool just to see the time
- Annoying when i was playing the piano (screen went on/off like crazy)
I'm wondering if this is improved at all? Also, is it possible to actually turn it off completely?
Shame this watch doesn't have an always-on clock....
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eurorauser said:
Hi, I'm about to go for a Neo (don't need a camera), but the reason i returned my original gear was the "turn your wrist to turn the screen on" motin was either
- Too unreliable - meaning i'd be twisting my wrist like a fool just to see the time
- Annoying when i was playing the piano (screen went on/off like crazy)
I'm wondering if this is improved at all? Also, is it possible to actually turn it off completely?
Shame this watch doesn't have an always-on clock....
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hi sir, you could actually go to setting, display, then wake up gesture and turn it off. hope this helps.

- Too unreliable - meaning i'd be twisting my wrist like a fool just to see the time
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this is my first gear I don't know how good/bad the first one was
as far as I can tell: works really great
had no problems so far
- Annoying when i was playing the piano (screen went on/off like crazy)
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that will never change
you move your arm --> motion sensor activates the screen
what you can do: lower the screen timeout to 10sec or deactivate the motion completely
settings -> display -> wake-up gesture -> off
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Mine is very flaky. Funny thing is I was missing the way my Pebble worked 95% of the time and meant to ask about this until I ran across this thread. With this, wrist flick is maybe 50%, OR I have to do an exaggerated arm raise motion - I can't just look down and flick my wrist like I would on my Pebble to see anything. Also when it does work, it's slow - there's like a half second where I'm waiting in suspense for the display to wake. Maybe you people that came from the older Gears are used to that and it's ok for you, but with my Pebble I was never waiting - maybe it's due to the fact that Pebble is only turning on the backlight from the sensor, as the display is on all the time.
Which brings me to my biggest frustration. I had hoped that somehow an AMOLED screen could be set up to be always on with just the basic info while still saving battery (like active notifications on the Moto devices). I hope that somehow there's a way to work around this and have a simple info display that could be always on (no colors/animations, just white text on the black background to save power). If i needed to charge every night, that's fine. I'd rather have that than look like/feel like an idiot shaking my wrist around and still not getting it to wake up. That's one of the reasons I returned the Sony smartwatch last year.

I just received my NEO yesterday.
The motion sensor *is* rather sensitive and ANY vertical arm motion with even the slightest twisting kicks the phone screen on. At first it's interesting . . . after a while it's a bit annoying.
I would like to have a self-defined motion, or perhaps a bit more control over exactly when it turns on.
At least it would be better if we could reduce the screen time to 3 or 5 seconds that would lessen the distraction.
I turned the motion sensor off and that's actually pretty good -just got a text message and it displayed correctyl, and for now a quick press to see the time is not bad.

Solution for loss of gesture control on Samsung Gear2 Neo.
eurorauser said:
Hi, I'm about to go for a Neo (don't need a camera), but the reason i returned my original gear was the "turn your wrist to turn the screen on" motin was either
- Too unreliable - meaning i'd be twisting my wrist like a fool just to see the time
- Annoying when i was playing the piano (screen went on/off like crazy)
I'm wondering if this is improved at all? Also, is it possible to actually turn it off completely?
Shame this watch doesn't have an always-on clock....
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Over time my neo appeared to become more and more unresponsive to my wrist movements until it stopped completely and only pressing the button allowed me to see the clock. After reading this post and the replies I decided to press the 're-set Gear' switch in 'Settings' on the Neo. This removes all the stored data from the device and restores the factory defaults.
After restoring the Bluetooth link using the gear manager app on my Galaxy S5 gesture control was restored and worked perfectly. Also I switched off the gesture control using the button in 'Settings' under 'Display' and that worked too.
What I can't tell you is why what I did worked. However as the onset of the problem was gradual it might suggest that it might be related to a gradual build-up of data in the Neo's memory that might be a factor affecting the device's performance. I suspect more time deleting alerts and notifications might help, or if you're not using your neo to play music or store photos and videos you could just do what I did as and when the need arises while we wait for Samsung to supply a system upgrade to solve the problem.
I hope this reaches you in time to stop you sending your Neo watch back as I have become very fond of mine. I too play pianos and synths but I've always taken off any watches before playing out of personal preference, but we can always switch our Neos' gesture control off while playing, but beware of any mics nearby picking up it's chimes!

My Neo is no longer responding to the wrist motion. I've tried resetting it to stock numerous times, and reloading (never restoring) all the software.
Could it be that the motion sensor has failed?
I got this in Dec 2014, and I'm really disappointed that this has happened already. It was easily my favorite feature.
Is there any test, or diagnostic I can run to confirm my suspicions?

Samsung Gear S2 Smartwatch Wakeup Gesture Doesn't Work
I had the same problem with my Gear S2. Tried everything, including disabling "Do not disturb", but wakeup gesture still didn't work. Reported problem to seller who sent another S2, but it also did not work.

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Dark mode (for theaters, etc.)

Last night I was watching a movie with a friend and afterwards she complained that my watch kept turning on and was distracting. Good point. You can make the watch silent with a fairly quick toggle, but you can't disable its display when a bright light would be inappropriate very easily without playing with one or two settings (i.e. not accessible from the quick settings display).
There is already a daylight setting, accessible from the power screen, but it would be nice if it offered several levels:
- Daylight for visibility in bright light
- Normal
- Dark - does not turn on automatically (must use physical button) and dimmest display when activated (Edit: no automatic display on notifications either)
- (and maybe also Dim for evening, dim light, but still has auto-on)
Workaround - long sleeves and/or removing the watch in dark settings. Even with sleeves, if you are in a situation where emitting light would be inappropriate (i.e. stage worker, waiter in a subdued lighting restaurant) it would be nice to be able to temporarily and independently disable the auto-on gesture/feature.
Another workaround - manually adjust the display intensity from the quick settings menu (you can also manually enable daylight mode this way as well), but this doesn't prevent the watch from turning on automatically and it doesn't allow quick switching between 2 or 3 common settings. Disabling the wake gesture involves fumbling with the phone.
While I'm at it - an ambient light sensor for auto-brightness like on most phones would have been nice...
I'm going to say that any back lit device is going to be bright in the dark, no matter how dim the display is. I don't really see any way other than to turn the watch off.
^^I do have to admit though. If it is dark I would rather have my phone fully dim than on auto brightness
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flarbear said:
Last night I was watching a movie with a friend and afterwards she complained that my watch kept turning on and was distracting. Good point. You can make the watch silent, but you can't disable its display when a bright light would be inappropriate.
There is already a daylight setting, accessible from the power screen, but it would be nice if it offered several levels:
- Daylight for visibility in bright light
- Normal
- Dark - does not turn on automatically (must use physical button) and dimmest display when activated
- (and maybe also Dim for evening, dim light, but still has auto-on)
Workaround - long sleeves and/or removing the watch in dark settings. Even with sleeves, if you are in a situation where emitting light would be inappropriate (i.e. stage worker, waiter in a subdued lighting restaurant) it would be nice to be able to temporarily and independently disable the auto-on gesture/feature.
Another workaround - manually adjust the display intensity from the quick settings menu (you can also manually enable daylight mode this way as well), but this doesn't prevent the watch from turning on automatically and it doesn't allow quick switching between 2 or 3 common settings. Disabling the wake gesture involves fumbling with the phone.
While I'm at it - an ambient light sensor for auto-brightness like on most phones would have been nice...
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You can disable the wake up gesture in settings on the watch. Simply create a shortcut if your rooted on your launcher screen, its a easy fix.
Sparky_za said:
I'm going to say that any back lit device is going to be bright in the dark, no matter how dim the display is. I don't really see any way other than to turn the watch off.
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Most back lit watches don't turn the back light on automatically. The few that I've had that had a way to turn the back light on without using a button required a significantly more deliberate gesture than simply changing the angle of your hand. The gear also (normally) turns on when you get a notification which has nothing to do with any user-initiated action (I forgot to list "no display on notification" as a component of the feature in my OP).
The dimmest setting is dim enough for cases where you would need to turn it on, and if you are deliberately turning it on to check the time, then you can choose an angle and cradle it in your hand to avoid disturbing others. The key ingredient is that you are aware of the light in that case as opposed to the watch quietly flashing of its own accord.
fOmey said:
You can disable the wake up gesture in settings on the watch. Simply create a shortcut if your rooted on your launcher screen, its a easy fix.
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I'm not rooted and there is no setting on the watch that can disable this, I would have to fumble with the phone and the gear manager to turn it off (and back on)...
flarbear said:
Most back lit watches don't turn the back light on automatically. The few that I've had that had a way to turn the back light on without using a button required a significantly more deliberate gesture than simply changing the angle of your hand. The gear also (normally) turns on when you get a notification which has nothing to do with any user-initiated action (I forgot to list "no display on notification" as a component of the feature in my OP).
The dimmest setting is dim enough for cases where you would need to turn it on, and if you are deliberately turning it on to check the time, then you can choose an angle and cradle it in your hand to avoid disturbing others. The key ingredient is that you are aware of the light in that case as opposed to the watch quietly flashing of its own accord.
I'm not rooted and there is no setting on the watch that can disable this, I would have to fumble with the phone and the gear manager to turn it off (and back on)...
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Open settings on your gear and go into motion settings.
fOmey said:
Open settings on your gear and go into motion settings.
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That must be new on the upcoming fw that isn't released in the US yet - no Motion category in my Settings. That will be nice to have when it arrives, but I would still think that adding a 3rd state for dark mode to the existing quick setting toggle for the brightness would be a nice addition even if there is a setting for this on the watch.
It is very similar to the fact that "sound, vibrate, silent" modes are all accessible via the same quick toggle on phones - sure you can achieve everything that those sound settings provide through other means, but given the number of times when you want to switch sound modes they typically have a very accessible toggle - as I think they should do with light settings on the Gear...
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Open settings on your gear and go into motion settings.
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Also, that setting does not disable the display coming on when you get a notification. You can modify your notifications as well, but that gets a bit complicated compared to just having one easily accessible toggle that tells the watch that you want more control over when the display turns on in a particular situation...
flarbear said:
Also, that setting does not disable the display coming on when you get a notification. You can modify your notifications as well, but that gets a bit complicated compared to just having one easily accessible toggle that tells the watch that you want more control over when the display turns on in a particular situation...
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I am in the US and can disable wake-up gesture and turn off notifications from Gear Manager. So yesterday before going to the movies myself I knew it would be too bright even at the lowest setting. So while waiting to get popcorn, I switched both off and enjoyed the movie. Two settings in one app very quick. After the movie before getting up I turned them back on.
Edit: Of course if you don't have Gear Manager this might not be possible.
Xirix12 said:
I am in the US and can disable wake-up gesture and turn off notifications from Gear Manager. So yesterday before going to the movies myself I knew it would be too bright even at the lowest setting. So while waiting to get popcorn, I switched both off and enjoyed the movie. Two settings in one app very quick. After the movie before getting up I turned them back on.
Edit: Of course if you don't have Gear Manager this might not be possible.
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I do have Gear Manager.
My point is not "this can't be done" or "this is so hard" as it is - there is already an easy to access convenience setting for dealing with the watch's brightness and it is right next to the watch's easily accessible toggle for various levels of sound abatement. It seems like a natural extension to have those same display-related settings choices from Gear Manager be simultaneously and trivially activated from the same convenience menu that you would use to put the watch in vibrate or silent mode. A one-stop shop for both sound and light abatement (or enhancement as is the case for the current daylight setting).
With respect to "long press on power, tap on [Display] once or twice", these alternate methods are not so convenient...
If there was a way to get screen filter on the gear you could make the screen extremely dark. I use it on my phone in the theater.
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Latest update nuked my watch ???

I have an LG G Watch R.
immediately after this update about 1.5 weeks ago that I installed my watch no longer functions as it functioned before.
I no longer get call notifications on the watch. previously when a call came in the watch would start vibrating the caller image would appear and I could answer or ignore from the watch.
this no longer occurs (HUGE functionality loss for me)
also "always on" no longer works. it always turns off VERY rapidly after a few short seconds and you can only turn it on again by pressing the button. no "ambient" mode any more.
and of course since ambient is off (I assume) twist to full on does not work anymore
touch will not wake it up twist will not wake it up ONLY pressing the button.
suggestions? these are simply massively functionality losses to me I flat out would not have bought it if it functioned this way when I got it. what's the point?
I am hoping this is something I can fix. yes I checked android wear no joy. I uncheck and recheck always on and the watch comes on for a second and then goes off again. still have to press the button to make it live again.
Cinema mode activated?
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What is that? I do not see anything called cinema mode anywhere?
On active screen swipe down from the top and then wipe left. You will see Cinema mode and Sunlight boost.
Tonio78370 said:
On active screen swipe down from the top and then wipe left. You will see Cinema mode and Sunlight boost.
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That, or you can push the button twice really fast. Does the same thing, just quicker...
Thank you so much both of you that was exactly the problem watch is working normally now double tap and I noticed there was a tiny little icon in the middle of the screen look kind of like a little microphone icon the line through it very tiny but now I know what to look for if it happens again again thank you

[Q] Screen doesn't stay on anymore

When I bought the watch back in November, the screen would stay ON all the time. I know it to be a fact because I used to leave it on a desk without ever touching it (for hours) and it would always display the time (it was like having a desk clock, for when I would rather not wear it to have more comfortable wrists while writing or that sort of things).
Also in the train (I used to travel a lot in that period) I would leave the watch hung on the wall while sleeping (at night) and it would not turn itself off, so I could check the time in case I woke up in the middle of the night, without neededing to reach for the watch.
Recently (it was January) I noticed that it does not work like that anymore. After a very short time, the watch screen goes off. It is still in standby: it goes back on if I touch it or press the button.....but I want it to stay on 'without limits' (in dimmed mode). It was like that before.
Somehow this is the behaviour of the 'keep screen always ON' setting.....but in fact, that setting is already set to 'ON'.
So is there some kind of firmware update that changed this behaviour? I would like the clock to not go off when it is not on my wrist, sometimes I just need to keep track of time AND have my wrists free....and it is not possible anymore.
nothing?
It is actually a key feature....no point in having a watch that doesn't show the time unless you touch it (if you leave it on a desk or simply hung on a wall at night). Also I wonder why it changed (did not do this last year so I thought it must be some update but could not find anything in the changelogs about this).
You have the Setting enabled in Android Wear for keeping the screen Always On?
My screen only goes out when on the charger. When I had a Samsung Gear Live, it would stay on while on the charger, via the Developer Setting on the watch to keep the screen on while charging. But that has never worked for me on the "R", not even last year.
The screen of the watch goes off while charging (although I remember it being different back in October...).
The settting for 'screen always on' is activated. I activated from the watch, from the phone, restarted the watch, nothing worked. The screen goes off after a while IF I DO NOT wear the watch.
No problem if I wear it....that means there is some connection between the screen going off and the accelerometer :-/
But as I said, I need the watch to stay on even if I am not wearing it (working at a desk or similar when I can't wear the watch, I would look at the time at the watch lying on the table). I am sure 1000% it did not turn off before (started in January, or at least I noticed it in January). I read all the changelogs for all the updates and I did not find anything about this.
Can someone also try? My brother has the same watch and his also goes off if he does not wear it. I find this really unneeded. At least they should have put a setting available.
You best option is Wear Charging Widget. It will keep the screen on when charging. Although it does dim a bit, like a night clock in a mostly dark room. It is the only option I've found that works.
I wanted the "R" to work like my old Gear Live and keep the screen on when charging and even when not wearing it. But I've never found a means for that to happen short of Wear Charging Widget.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You best option is Wear Charging Widget. It will keep the screen on when charging. Although it does dim a bit, like a night clock in a mostly dark room. It is the only option I've found that works.
I wanted the "R" to work like my old Gear Live and keep the screen on when charging and even when not wearing it. But I've never found a means for that to happen short of Wear Charging Widget.
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Yes it looks it is like that now. Maybe you bought the watch after the two last updates (501 / 502) ?
Would be nice if somebody else, besides me, could confirm that in fact the watch was staying on (dimmed mode) all the time even without wearing it in the previous months (release date to December).
rogermorse said:
Yes it looks it is like that now. Maybe you bought the watch after the two last updates (501 / 502) ?
Would be nice if somebody else, besides me, could confirm that in fact the watch was staying on (dimmed mode) all the time even without wearing it in the previous months (release date to December).
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I've had my "R" since last year, before v5 came out for the watches. And the "R" never kept the screen on while charging. I never noticed it involved simply not wearing it. Since when I'm not wearing, I'm charging.
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Screen shuts off completely
The screen on my GWR has started shutting off, completely dark not dim. I checked the settings and it is set to "Always on screen": ON.
This is a fairly new problem, it did not used to behave this way, I could see the screen dim, and move my wrist and it would go bright and display "OK Google".
Any ideas on how to fix this bug? Or do I/we need to wait for a software update/fix? Current software version: 5.0.2
Watch is not very useful if I can't see the time without having to push the crown/button.
Anyone else having this issue?
Screen is working again.
Had some time to try some options, did a "Reset Device" and the screen came back.
Lost all the apps I had loaded on the watch, not a big deal, wasn't using many of them.
Guess I can just download them again from the play store, if I want them back. Something I loaded onto the watch may have caused the loss of the screen.
Last couple of apps I downloaded were CompassX and a charging app that shows charging progress while charging.
Glad to have the watch face back.
I'm having the same problem as you. The ambient mode won't come on. Instead of dimming to ambient mode it now just goes dark completely (like when it is charging). I would love another fix before I have to reset the watch. Any ideas?
2leaponover1 said:
I'm having the same problem as you. The ambient mode won't come on. Instead of dimming to ambient mode it now just goes dark completely (like when it is charging). I would love another fix before I have to reset the watch. Any ideas?
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Bumping this. I reset the watch. Went about two weeks and now back to the same problem. Ambient mode has disappeared. It's just black all the time until i turn it back on.
2leaponover1 said:
Bumping this. I reset the watch. Went about two weeks and now back to the same problem. Ambient mode has disappeared. It's just black all the time until i turn it back on.
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The user support for this watch is non-existent Still no help with this problem
2leaponover1 said:
The user support for this watch is non-existent Still no help with this problem
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I confirm that I have this trouble also in normal use, previously it worked fine and would stay on all the time if that's what I wanted.
Am very tempted to reset the watch after backing up.
I have nearly the same problem. For months now, when my screen dims, it goes to a very dark/dim red. I've removed all programs from my phone and did a factory reset on the watch three times. I'm not sure what else to try. Is there a way to flash the memory? It seems like a setting is stuck in the non-volatile memory.
I was having the same problem and found that I had theater mode set on. Switched to off and now works great.
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Check your theater mode setting.
Turning mine off worked.
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Anyone else having this issue?
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I'm experiencing the same. On my watch it seems to be somehow related to accelometer. Almost everytime, when using LG G Watch R in golfing, it starts to shut down the screen. It doesn't wakeup even when tapping the screen.
I haven't found other solution than resetting the device
Same issue with 5.1.1
I had this issue with 5.0.2 and hoped that the next update would solve it but sadly it persists in 5.1.1 .
Theatre mode is off, Always on is on but still the screen blanks, showing the ambient mode screen briefly before blanking.
I've reset multiple times, occasionally Always On comes back but only for a short while.
Always on is a feature I really like
Fixed it on mine
I had to turn wrist gestures on. With it off screen on doesn't work.
I have the exact problem on my GWAR, software version 5.1.1. I bought my in December and it never happened until now. It started happening yesterday all of a sudden. I tried factory reseting it through bootloader, throught settings, uninstalling the Wear app, uninstalling the watchface i was using, and still nothing.
Here is what I did to fix it (and i know its overkill): Uninstall Wear app, clear google play services data and reset the device through settings. Now it's finaly working.

Disable Galaxy Watch 3 Screensaver

I recently purchased a new Galaxy Watch 3, coming from my trusty Gear S3. One thing that is annoying me to no end is this "Screensaver" feature when the watch goes to sleep while an app is open. Pretty hard to describe so here is a video with a side by side comparison between the Watch 3 and my Gear S3.
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Both watches have the exact same watch face. Notice that when the Watch 3 goes to sleep while on anything but the Watch face, it switches to this stupid Digital screensaver. The net effect of this is that 90% of the time when the screen is in "always on" mode it uses this stupid screensaver instead of my chosen watchface.
I should not that I am using a custom WatchMaker watch face.
Is there anyway to disable this "feature" so that it behaves like the S3?
I noticed the same! I expect it is because of the too small battery. Its not always on exactly, its always on to a Screensaver.
Would be nice to be able to change it...
Same here. I'd like to kill this "feature", i.e. when timed out revert to the "Always on" watchface, not the default screensaver.
Mine does this too, but falls back to the Watch Face AOD after about 20 secs. I think it was actually designed this way to allow you to go back to the screen you were on before the screen saver was triggered, by pressing the top button.
congusto said:
Mine does this too, but falls back to the Watch Face AOD after about 20 secs. I think it was actually designed this way to allow you to go back to the screen you were on before the screen saver was triggered, by pressing the top button.
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Mine doesn't fall back to AOD watch face at all. It can stay all day on the "screensaver watchface". That's what I'd like to switch off.
Reducing the time, but still not a fix
pbogdanovic said:
Mine doesn't fall back to AOD watch face at all. It can stay all day on the "screensaver watchface". That's what I'd like to switch off.
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I'd love to get rid of this screensaver watch face as well, however, as others have mentioned, for me it also goes away fairly quickly. In your Galaxy Wearable app, if you go into "Display", what setting do you have under "Show last app". Mine is currently set to "When screen turns on again within 20 seconds". Unfortunately, there is no "off" for this, and 20 seconds is the minimum. If you have this set higher (e.g. to 1hr) I wonder if you'd see what you are seeing.
Regardless, if anyone figures out how to disable this, I'd love to know as well!
Same issue here. It is annoying. Following.
Same problem coming from the Galaxy Watch to the Watch3. Following hoping for a solution.

Question Extremely frustrated, screen activates in pocket, please help

Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
KingFatty said:
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
tim2london said:
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
enigmaamit said:
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
aj7400 said:
I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
KingFatty said:
Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
KingFatty said:
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
KingFatty said:
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
ELp2 said:
What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat

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