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Anyone tried flashing Gear 2 firmware to Gear 1?

Now that the Gear 2 firmware is available, has anyone tried to flash it to the Gear 1 to see if possible? I'm thinking about trying it just to see what happens, but if someone else has tried and found out it's a day wrecker I'll hold off.

Wishful thinking.... Fails every time

Umm.. Gear 1 runs Android and Gear 2 runs Tizen or something - this is almost like asking has anyone flashed iOS6 on their Windows Phone isn't it? (or am I missing something here).
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iBuzman said:
Umm.. Gear 1 runs Android and Gear 2 runs Tizen or something - this is almost like asking has anyone flashed iOS6 on their Windows Phone isn't it? (or am I missing something here).
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The hardware itself is almost identical between the two watches. Samsung has stated they are bringing Tizen to the Gear 1. I guess I'm just a little impatient. Maybe it could be ported to work?

The original Tizen was designed as open source platform. However, after Samsung bough it, they have changed it to be a stripped down version of the androids that we see in our phones. I would assume they have made it more locked down than our typical android platforms. They did this similar to what Apple did when designing theri ios, so the dev's has to conform to their policies and make it harder to crack. Its all about money.
So even though the 2 watches are almost identical in terms of hardware, the first thing to do is try to unlock the firmware first, then we can see if it can be modified to fit the gear 1 or even any other smart watch.

bballengphd said:
The original Tizen was designed as open source platform. However, after Samsung bough it, they have changed it to be a stripped down version of the androids that we see in our phones. I would assume they have made it more locked down than our typical android platforms. They did this similar to what Apple did when designing theri ios, so the dev's has to conform to their policies and make it harder to crack. Its all about money.
So even though the 2 watches are almost identical in terms of hardware, the first thing to do is try to unlock the firmware first, then we can see if it can be modified to fit the gear 1 or even any other smart watch.
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this is interisting ... because I would consider buying a gear 2 if I could have android on it .... otherwise it would be useless to me ... and for the gear 1 .. Im not realyl fond of the size of it .... so thats sad ... they would get me sold with a gear 2 device that has android .... bad move I think .. they dont get my money.... since for just the few function it has I dont consider it really smart... so far found no device that matches these points ... except the gear 1 which is too bulky... im looking forward to that day such device with android becomes abailable

Just saw this today. Maybe we could get a custom rom based off of this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-posts-first-tizen-open-source-files-gear-2-and-gear-2-neo

[QUESTION] Why Android Wear when it will hinder and limit us severely?

Been thinking about all this - why would we want Android Wear when it doesn't offer phone answering, camera app, music, storage, etc.
Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think it would seriously limit the device.
So why are so many people dead set on putting this on the Gear?
(because we can is not a valid answer)

therealduckie said:
Been thinking about all this - why would we want Android Wear when it doesn't offer phone answering, camera app, music, storage, etc.
Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think it would seriously limit the device.
So why are so many people dead set on putting this on the Gear?
(because we can is not a valid answer)
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Basically I would like to see a port of the 4.2.2 moving closer in Android versions to 4.4 and Wear. So we basically would have Android 4.4 with the Gear goodies and goodies of the Wear (basically Google Now).
Yes a straight Android Wear would cripple all the great features of the Gear 1 / 2.
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I don't understand it eighter...
Hardware wise we have a perfect smartwatch, with more features than the newly announced smartwatches.
Ok, we don't have a round form factor but actually I like the size and wear of my Gear 1 a lot.
All the new smartwatches are not able to take and answer calls indeed. Don't have a own camera for taking pictures and video's.
Only thing they DO have, is the latest version of Android (Wear in this case, based on Android 4.4).
But looking at it closely, is our Android 4.2 so very different than Android 4.4 that we can't do normal stuff anymore ?
No, we can still do everything the new smartwatches can (software wise then).
I have Null_23 on my Gear 1 and more than happy with it !
Not going to switch to Tizen or buy another watch....mine is just perfect !

I love the way my gear is with Null ROM...
Is there anyway to get google now working on the gear 1 that would make me so happy...
Has anyone tried side loading the google now launcher?
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Yes, Google Now launcher works if sideloaded, but you also need a bunch of other packages to make it work. It's not worth it, honestly.

What really pisses me off about this watch is that it was rated worst product of the year by Engadget. Really?! Who's pocket are they in? Now you have a crop of watches with less features and they are being praised as revolutionary. Samsung was a true pioneer with this one. Yes, other watches also paved the way, but to be given such a terrible rep was completely unfair. It certainly needed improvements and was definitely a first gen smartwatch, but android wear went backwards! No phone, no camera, and in some cases, much worse battery life. I get it that the new crop have always on features but I was looking in the coveted Moto 360 forum and most were cutting that feature off...to save battery. Finally,I have never owned a gadget that got more compliments, questions, and attention than my gear 1. I still get, "Nice watch" constantly. So, did Samsung screw it up or make something brilliant? I'd say the latter, and I'm NOT a fanboy. I welcome someone who does a round form factor and improves on the gear 1 design.

Personally, I have been looking around at android wear products but I haven't been impressed by any of them that are currently coming to market now. The concepts look so much better than what is being offered like the Triwa Smartwatch concept. Samsung Galaxy Gear range looks and feels uncomfortable. Moto 360 had the right look. For now, I think I will stick with my Casio and Shark watches.
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I don't see the appeal in a smartwatch either. Smartphones already offer us so much.

alprazolam said:
What really pisses me off about this watch is that it was rated worst product of the year by Engadget. Really?! Who's pocket are they in? Now you have a crop of watches with less features and they are being praised as revolutionary. Samsung was a true pioneer with this one. Yes, other watches also paved the way, but to be given such a terrible rep was completely unfair. It certainly needed improvements and was definitely a first gen smartwatch, but android wear went backwards! No phone, no camera, and in some cases, much worse battery life. I get it that the new crop have always on features but I was looking in the coveted Moto 360 forum and most were cutting that feature off...to save battery. Finally,I have never owned a gadget that got more compliments, questions, and attention than my gear 1. I still get, "Nice watch" constantly. So, did Samsung screw it up or make something brilliant? I'd say the latter, and I'm NOT a fanboy. I welcome someone who does a round form factor and improves on the gear 1 design.
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Your post reflects my sentiments and experience exactly! I bought this thing as a toy once they started blowing them out and it has become an indespensible part of my daily life.
I love when people with "newer" tech wonder if they should have waited until the features I have became available..What??? The newer ones can make phone calls??

crutzulee said:
Your post reflects my sentiments and experience exactly! I bought this thing as a toy once they started blowing them out and it has become an indespensible part of my daily life.
I love when people with "newer" tech wonder if they should have waited until the features I have became available..What??? The newer ones can make phone calls??
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I honestly bought this watch on a whim. I thought it was a silly concept and literally walked out of Verizon with it on an impulse buy. My plan was to play around with it, and take it back, but then it quickly grew on me. I would feel lost without my watch now. People who haven't owned one don't understand. It sounds ridiculous to say you need an extension of your smartphone, but in practice, you learn to love it.

alprazolam said:
I honestly bought this watch on a whim. I thought it was a silly concept and literally walked out of Verizon with it on an impulse buy. My plan was to play around with it, and take it back, but then it quickly grew on me. I would feel lost without my watch now. People who haven't owned one don't understand. It sounds ridiculous to say you need an extension of your smartphone, but in practice, you learn to love it.
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Exactly.... Never wanted or was interested in getting one, till they got cheap and I was away for business for 3weeks. Bought it as a toy to play with for my boring days at a hotel. And now I totally love it. Love looking at my wrist to see who is calling and then answering or ignoring it. Very handy . I also stopped my quest to load all kinds of sounds etc. I keep it on silent all the time. The vibrations are always felt. They even wake me with the alarm feature. I also cut back on all the notifications except the basics. Anyhow I'm extremely happy with buying it, and I wonder what I will do when this things kicks the bucket. I don't want a fancy time piece or a Wear device. Now if the next gen Wear devices have the stuff I have and use on my Gear then I'll take a look. But my must haves will be a speaker to talk etc. And a camera just because I can...
Chris

Hinder us? I thought android wear was a launcher over stock android 4.4? If that's the case, the camera would still work, phone calls would still work, and the features of android wear added.

tooandrew said:
Hinder us? I thought android wear was a launcher over stock android 4.4? If that's the case, the camera would still work, phone calls would still work, and the features of android wear added.
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Unfortunately it's not that easy as you picture it...
Our Gears are running Tizen or Android 4.2.2 and in both cases the Gears need to be upgraded to Android 4.4 in order to run Android Wear.
But upgrading our devices to Android 4.4 is not that easy.
Besides the source code (for compiling) Android 4.4, we also need source for the drivers of our hardware (like camera, speaker, microfoon, etc).
Some source is open souce, like Android itself.
But other source code is so called closed source, source code owned by someone (in our case Samsung) which they don't publish on the internet.
Not having the correct drivers will most probably be a show-stopper for getting Android Wear on our Gears.
Unless a really skilled programmer can create drivers for the hardware, or we can get our hands somehow on the source code of the drivers.

speedme said:
Unfortunately it's not that easy as you picture it...
Our Gears are running Tizen or Android 4.2.2 and in both cases the Gears need to be upgraded to Android 4.4 in order to run Android Wear.
But upgrading our devices to Android 4.4 is not that easy.
Besides the source code (for compiling) Android 4.4, we also need source for the drivers of our hardware (like camera, speaker, microfoon, etc).
Some source is open souce, like Android itself.
But other source code is so called closed source, source code owned by someone (in our case Samsung) which they don't publish on the internet.
Not having the correct drivers will most probably be a show-stopper for getting Android Wear on our Gears.
Unless a really skilled programmer can create drivers for the hardware, or we can get our hands somehow on the source code of the drivers.
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I'm just saying that if a dev were to get it running, it wouldn't hinder us any way

Same here love my Gear 1 running Null with all the features, calling and camara.
thinking of getting the Gear S cause it does most of the things i do now like reply to text messeges(Tablet Talk) with keyboard which is my favorite feature. i could watch youtube and when i get a text i just answer thru my watch no need to stop what im doing on my phone.
But my only reservation with the Gear S is the strap it looks to big.
Any thoughts on the Gear S?

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned...

I just found this article on Master Herald:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned as Company Readjusts Plans around Gear VR
Initial reports about the Gear VR claimed that Samsung are planning to put a lot of focus on the device, but it wasn’t until recently that the picture started to really clear up. It seems that the company really is moving forward very actively with the Gear VR, but at the same time, sadly, some of their current users will have to suffer a little bit. Recent rumors indicated that the Android 5.0 Lollipop update is coming closer for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but there have now been reports that the update has been pushed back a little further.
According to the most recent updates, the new Galaxy Note 4 ROM has been handed over to a team that’s working to ensure the device will have full compatibility with Samsung’s Gear VR. Considering the Note 4 is one of the very few devices that will (reportedly) support the Gear VR, it’s no wonder that Samsung are trying so hard to make sure that this compatibility works flawlessly.
The Gear VR is Samsung’s own take on the Virtual Reality concept, although they’re approaching the problem from a different direction. Instead of selling a complete device including an internal screen for the goggles, the Gear VR is meant to be used with Samsung’s other devices. The user would attach, for example, the Galaxy Note 4, and would then use the Gear VR as a normal VR headset, using the screen of the device.
It’s not known how much different this technology will be from the Oculus Rift in terms of performance, and there has been some skepticism aimed at it due to the fact that it relies on one screen instead of two. Still, Samsung seem to know what they’re doing, as they’ve been putting more and more effort into promoting and developing the Gear VR further, so it will be curious to see where they end up with this device. Even if it doesn’t break any solid grounds on the VR market, it still has the potential to set interesting new trends for it, and at least push it forward to some extent. So far, its performance has been acceptable, although those who’ve tried it seem to be left with mixed opinions.
Other devices that are going to get the Android 5.0 Lollipop update include the Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy S5 mini, and Galaxy S4. Exact release dates for the new firmware version are not known, but it’s expected that Samsung will prioritize the devices according to their compatibility with the Gear VR. This could potentially indicate which devices Samsung is planning to make compatible with the headset in the future, too.

F%$& Gear VR, I want Lollipop nao =(
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Nice find OP...why the actual **** would we care about gearVR ffs, they'll probably release lollipop for the note 2 soon and note 4 users will still be waiting because of their stupid "virtual reality" ****...

http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..

oscar fernando said:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
samsung galaxy note 4 gets android 5.0 lollipop update in russia
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is this real and can we flash this in the uk??!

I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?

I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos

Well Samsung is making a very bad impression on people who picked up the Note 4 as their first Samsung device. I love the device itself but the TW interface and constant lag on a device this powerful is embarrassing. It worries me that instead of focusing on making TW better for the Lollipop update they are goofing around with compatibility for a $200 piece of plastic that won't even work unless you have a specific device with a specific version of OS installed. Maybe I'm being unfair but I also own a Gear Neo 2 which can't be used on any other phone. See like the Gear VR it can't be used on my Note 4 unless I have a specific version of OS installed. This makes the device extremely limited. It's nice they are making sure the VR is going to work for the few hundred people who have a Gear VR, but for the thousands who don't it isn't a very good excuse for taking 3 months to push out one update. Loving the Note 4 device but not loving TW or the limited customization. This doesn't turn me off android devices at all. Just turning me off from investing in another Samsung product.
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I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
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MaTiCeK- said:
I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
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Oscar Fernando said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
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Looks like they were supposed to say the S4 and not the Note 4.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_getting_lollipop_in_russia-news-11008.php
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/30...500-is-getting-the-lollipop-update-in-russia/

well got this last night for what its worth...
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Hm do you reckon they're telling the truth or just bull****ting again to shut us up? If this is true it could be available by Monday

well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol

Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.

How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.

I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together

MyPeople said:
I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I too believe in Samsung as much as God........ not at all.

andythilo said:
How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
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Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
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We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
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Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
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Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
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What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
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I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.

airwa1kin7 said:
There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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I've tried the unofficial CM ROM and the battery issues caused me too many problems. Its nearly there but not enough for me as a daily driver. One day I lost 50% battery in 2 hours lol and phone was hot as hell.

RustyShacklefords said:
well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.

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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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A good ole bloody cheers to that!

Waiting for the Gear VR to play catch-up is worth it I think.
The Occulus team and the Samsung people have some time to begin to learn how to work with each other and exchange code, and we get to wait a little longer to find out if Lollipop is truly ready for this anyway.
As it is, the way things were going, I was going to manually skip this update.
I love my stock experience (touch wiz notwithstanding) and I can't stand the hoardes that show up to learn how to 're-install KK 'cause the battery's no good anymore and what's up with the notifications....?'
Happened with Ice-Cream (lord help those still devoutly on Gingerbread), happened with Jelly Bean (you'd have thought KK was treading ground Vista there at the beginning) and, mark my words, will happen - with a vengeance - with Lollipop.
I can wait for the last man standing.
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Android 8 for SM-G900F

Hi to all SM-G900F fans and for all developers! :laugh:
I'd like to introduce this topic to discuss about the possibility of the Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F to have the new Android 8. Knowing about some amazing improvements that were made to the new Android 8 that will arrive soon, I'd like to know the following:
[ALL FANS] - What do you think about our S5 SM-G900F having an Android 8 ROM? With a booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update, etc.? If that will be possible to the developers apply to the S5 SM-G900F, it would be great or not?
[ALL DEVELOPERS] - What do you think about the idea of creating an Android 8 ROM for a great 2014 phone? It will be possible to do that with all improvements that were claimed for the new Android 8? It will worth that huge effort?
As you can see I love this phone, no doubt about that. :laugh: But, my wish is to have my Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F running Android 8 with all those features that were claimed to have in the new Android OS. If that can be possible, I think it would be amazing for this phone! Because I think the hardware is still good to support newer software and it would be very nice to see an excellent quality/price phone like this to match new ones.
I hope my wish can became true. . .please do not let this phone R.I.P!

7UIS said:
Hi to all SM-G900F fans and for all developers! :laugh:
I'd like to introduce this topic to discuss about the possibility of the Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F to have the new Android 8. Knowing about some amazing improvements that were made to the new Android 8 that will arrive soon, I'd like to know the following:
[ALL FANS] - What do you think about our S5 SM-G900F having an Android 8 ROM? With a booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update, etc.? If that will be possible to the developers apply to the S5 SM-G900F, it would be great or not?
[ALL DEVELOPERS] - What do you think about the idea of creating an Android 8 ROM for a great 2014 phone? It will be possible to do that with all improvements that were claimed for the new Android 8? It will worth that huge effort?
As you can see I love this phone, no doubt about that. :laugh: But, my wish is to have my Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F running Android 8 with all those features that were claimed to have in the new Android OS. If that can be possible, I think it would be amazing for this phone! Because I think the hardware is still good to support newer software and it would be very nice to see an excellent quality/price phone like this to match new ones.
I hope my wish can became true. . .please do not let this phone R.I.P!
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"booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update" Idk if it is possible, but it will be quite hard. If android 8 will come out, we developers WILL DO OUR BEST to get the best out of the s5. Seriously, we try our best but stop saying things like this, developers do this things without wanting anything in advance from you, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT! And please don't open threads like this because it is like opening a thread and just saying "i bought a new phone and i am happy (no **** sherlock lol) "!

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"booting time cut in half, with app performance increased in double, with drivers available to update" Idk if it is possible, but it will be quite hard. If android 8 will come out, we developers WILL DO OUR BEST to get the best out of the s5. Seriously, we try our best but stop saying things like this, developers do this things without wanting anything in advance from you, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT! And please don't open threads like this because it is like opening a thread and just saying "i bought a new phone and i am happy (no **** sherlock lol) "!
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Yeah, you're absolutely right and I apologize for my behavior. I was only excited about that I just decided to try to share my feelings and thoughts with the XDA Community. I love XDA Developers. It teached me so much about everything related to Android over the years. However, I must follow all the rules and have a good behavior so please feel free to remove/delete this thread.
Once again, I'm sorry for having opened this thread. Just a BIG "thank you" to all developers for the hard work they always do and for all members that share doubts and solutions for everything related to Android.
Best regards,
Lu

(please ignore this thread)
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It's alright to discuss about such things, but never push devs beyond what they can do. You simply show disrespect and it's one of the main reasons why devs give up creating something new.
Regarding Android 8 (Android O), I don't think it's going to be an easy task to port it to our device. At first, on Nougat was hard enough to make everything working (camera being one of the main highlights, since N has a completely revamped camera interface under the hood, like different process handling and stuff). I can't imagine, what O actually brings to the table and in no way it's going be a walk in the park.
And neither battery life nor camera is going to be as good as stock. Blame Samsung and Touchwiz for their closed source nature.

Even if it happens, camera will still suck. Why flash something that makes your phone worst and unstable, just to say that you have the latest android version in "phone about"

I don't know why you are so hyped about it, it has really small changes since Lollipop...

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Even if it happens, camera will still suck. Why flash something that makes your phone worst and unstable, just to say that you have the latest android version in "phone about"
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Of course not. It's about to have all the NEW features in your OLD phone (if possible, of course). I think there are several phones (like the Samsung Galaxy S5) that have plenty potencial to run newer software. Besides that, one teacher I had, one day, he told in the classroom that there's no limits when programming, it only depends on our imagination to create solutions. I'm nobody to say that his words are correct or not, but I believe if there's will and hope that things are capable to be made.
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I'd love to see Android 8 on my S5. It is true and it will be always true that the stock TW camera is the best one. It has slow-mo and 1080p60 video (I know that OnePlus camera has 720p90fps slow-mo, but that's not that great comapared to the stock.) But in my opinion, for some picture shooting, it is a great camera with the stock Lineage camera as well. (Maybe one day someone can find Samsung's driver).
Besides that, the S5 runs great with the latest 7.1.2 Android, and I believe that it will run as fast (if not better) with Android O.
Definetly hope for an upcoming information, devs: take your time, make a great rom.

I don't see anything wrong with this topic? The guy just asked if it's possible lol He didn't tell you "MAKE IT NOW!!". About stock android 8 - no. Stock android is boring, even Samsung's version of KitKat has more features than the newest stock android from Google. But some sort of port from, let's say, the Note 8 or the Galaxy S9 would be awesome in my opinion. There already are S8 ports for the KLTE which work with little bugs that will be fixed soon (SkiesROM) or ones that don't really matter that much (DreamUX ROM). Hardware is more than capable. iPhones have super low hardware and Apple updates them for 4-5 years ahead. This means that 'old' 2014 hardware like the S5's can be used perfectly fine even in 2020...with the right developers. BUT, nothing beats official Sammy firmware. Sure, you'll get the new features from android O(reo?) and the new Note8/S9 but bugs are inevitable whereas TouchWiz 6.0.1 is fine in every aspect. I'll stick to my S5 until 2019-2020 and then buy a new S10 or S11 (xd). I just hope that Samsung bring back the features from the S5 like IR blaster, fingerprint scanner on the front, hover view in the gallery and video apps, etc. FM Radio won't hurt too (still envy my S3 Mini for having it, 1%=3h radio) :|

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Why is it taking long
I'm searching for Android 8 daily waiting for any unofficial build or whatever to install and try it
Android 7 got ready only in about 1 and a half week.. That's what i remember at least..

I'm going to be a proud new owner of a Samsung Galaxy S5 Sport! Just ordered yesterday!

FanboyStudios said:
I'm going to be a proud new owner of a Samsung Galaxy S5 Sport! Just ordered yesterday!
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S5 sport??? No such thing
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Edit yes there is lmao just looks like a active and looks good In red

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S5 sport??? No such thing
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Edit yes there is lmao just looks like a active and looks good In red
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Lol It came out after the active... I got a blue one

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Lol It came out after the active... I got a blue one
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Wouldn't mind a red one but can't getem in the UK I do t think

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Wouldn't mind a red one but can't getem in the UK I do t think
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Would you like a link to one on ebay?

FanboyStudios said:
Would you like a link to one on ebay?
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If you don't mind thanks

ttocs99 said:
If you don't mind thanks
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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/112560349301

FanboyStudios said:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/112560349301
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Why's it going that cheap

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Why's it going that cheap
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Its used. And its a few years old

Watch 3 running Wear. Will it be possible to run Wear or side load Wear apps?

I got my GW3 about 8 months ago and like it more than ever. I am in Canada and change the Region a few times, and finally settled on XAR. Got BP running and I find it has all the functionality I need. Now with the announcement that GW4 will be running Wear, my fear is that new apps for GW3 will dry up and developers will focus on Wear.
So, I am curious, will Wear be more Tizen than WearOS. Will it be possible to change GW3 firmware to Wear? What about side loading Wear apps.... will that be possible?

Crystal Ball and deep look into future?
No Firmware leaked... no details nor somebody saw Wear running in action...
Maybe it looks like they are trying to hold their WatchFaces...
MAYBE old WatchFaces... maybe few of them can be used... MAYBE.
This is SM-R860 Firmware Development...
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/KOO/SM-R860/version.test.xml
I can count 40 + Versions...
IMHO nothing final...
They are still playing around... since April...
Gear S3 Root and Kernel Source! (Android Wear Port Thread)
Hey guys! Some of you might know me from the LG G5 scene, but I have since moved on from there and am hoping to make some progress with the Gear S3 :) After doing some digging and paying zero attention in class today, I came across the kernel...
forum.xda-developers.com
Best Regards

Samsungs switch to Tizen
I bought the Galaxy Watch 46mm several years ago becuase I wanted the ability to run a few apps and to make my own watch face. I started from scratch with GWS (it was GWD back then) and made my first face OK. I’ve used that face ever since (actually I recreated and tweaked it a bit with the...
forum.developer.samsung.com
Leads also to this blabla...
[Editorial] A New Era of Smartwatch Innovation Starts Here
The smartwatch is an empowering tool. It connects us with the people we care about, gives us immediate access to a wealth of information, and helps us to
news.samsung.com
Samsu.g killed also Tizen Mobile in short time....
Maybe GW3 was no commercial success...
So they need new magic words...
Best Regards

I think a GW3 update for the new hybrid OS is a pipe dream. Samsung wants to sell you a new watch - manufacturers almost never bring something like this to old hardware.
And it might [probably] be very difficult to bring the hybrid OS to the GW3 because the new hardware is developed specifically for the hybrid OS.

Is there a petition to upgrade Galaxy Watch 3 to Wear OS?