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Now that the Gear 2 firmware is available, has anyone tried to flash it to the Gear 1 to see if possible? I'm thinking about trying it just to see what happens, but if someone else has tried and found out it's a day wrecker I'll hold off.
Wishful thinking.... Fails every time
Umm.. Gear 1 runs Android and Gear 2 runs Tizen or something - this is almost like asking has anyone flashed iOS6 on their Windows Phone isn't it? (or am I missing something here).
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iBuzman said:
Umm.. Gear 1 runs Android and Gear 2 runs Tizen or something - this is almost like asking has anyone flashed iOS6 on their Windows Phone isn't it? (or am I missing something here).
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The hardware itself is almost identical between the two watches. Samsung has stated they are bringing Tizen to the Gear 1. I guess I'm just a little impatient. Maybe it could be ported to work?
The original Tizen was designed as open source platform. However, after Samsung bough it, they have changed it to be a stripped down version of the androids that we see in our phones. I would assume they have made it more locked down than our typical android platforms. They did this similar to what Apple did when designing theri ios, so the dev's has to conform to their policies and make it harder to crack. Its all about money.
So even though the 2 watches are almost identical in terms of hardware, the first thing to do is try to unlock the firmware first, then we can see if it can be modified to fit the gear 1 or even any other smart watch.
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The original Tizen was designed as open source platform. However, after Samsung bough it, they have changed it to be a stripped down version of the androids that we see in our phones. I would assume they have made it more locked down than our typical android platforms. They did this similar to what Apple did when designing theri ios, so the dev's has to conform to their policies and make it harder to crack. Its all about money.
So even though the 2 watches are almost identical in terms of hardware, the first thing to do is try to unlock the firmware first, then we can see if it can be modified to fit the gear 1 or even any other smart watch.
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this is interisting ... because I would consider buying a gear 2 if I could have android on it .... otherwise it would be useless to me ... and for the gear 1 .. Im not realyl fond of the size of it .... so thats sad ... they would get me sold with a gear 2 device that has android .... bad move I think .. they dont get my money.... since for just the few function it has I dont consider it really smart... so far found no device that matches these points ... except the gear 1 which is too bulky... im looking forward to that day such device with android becomes abailable
Just saw this today. Maybe we could get a custom rom based off of this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-posts-first-tizen-open-source-files-gear-2-and-gear-2-neo
Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
I second ur hopes - held off on Tizen for the same reason
Whether or not Android Wear's better than Tizen all depends on which apps you use on your phone. Android Wear (like Google Now) is dependent on using Google's apps and services. Most of what Now reports off of is scraped from Gmail. I don't use Gmail or any Google apps I don't have to so Now and Android Wear are useless to me and those like me. Most corporate/professional users that use MS products, Exchange, and connect to secure networks (which typically limit apps used for personal use) aren't going to be Android Wear candidates.
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Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
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I'm sure it'll fit perfectly with gear 2. I see the .tar having the drivers for the watch it's a dependent of
I would be very interested in a Wear port too.
As far as I can see, not too many things have changed on the Gear live compaired to the Gear 1.
Sure, the CPU would be faster but the screen and memory size are the same.
Count me in as well, this is where xda shines.... people coming together to contribute to the common goal. Can't wait.
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
shamrock505 said:
How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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I second this !!
shamrock505 said:
How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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It's a discussion forum, no? Everyone here is a wearables early adopter so are interested in whatever comes next. And not everyone here uses their devices the same way or wants the same things. Other than blind fanbois who clearly have no objectivity, I enjoy hearing people's different views; even if I don't agree with them. Your post added less to this discussion than mine did. People wetting themselves over something no one here knows the functional value of (yet) is the height of fanboi-ism. Android Wear could change the world as we know it. It's going to take more than a five minute conference dog and pony for that to happen.
A discussion by folks who want wear not about discussing why someone doesn't need nor want-not a fan of any particular aspect - just bored with Gear 1-if motor 360 looks good I'll purchase, if not then wait a while
Does it only work with Samsung products, I have an invite for an one plus one I want to know if it'll work with the phone too?
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I have been waiting for Android Wear to be released. I believe it would be a wonderful fit for the galaxy gear 1. Let's not forget the functionality of the gear 1 using the Null ROM....android based. Today's conference reiterated how coding would not be that much different for normal Android code. Sounds promising to me.
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From earlier discussions and threads I believe Android wear requires a 4.4 based Rom to operate. The Gear 1 Roms and Null Rom are 4.3 based. The real hurdle will be getting a 4.4 Rom on the Gear. The Devs and contributors on XDA are very talented so with this release of the Gear Live maybe they can accomplish it.
I am curious what the battery will be like on the Gear Live with the always on features of Android wear. The screen has to go into some type of low power mode for the 300mAh battery to last through a day. I also have a Qualcomm Toq that I picked up cheap on ebay, that uses a Mirasol Screen and only has a 240mAh battery. I get 4-5 days always on with it (even over night). The Toq has a tiny processor, runs a unique OS, and the colors are not vibrant, but it is a very capable demonstration smartwatch. I think there may be a future for more advanced Mirasol screens.
Anyway good to see some excitement over our Gear 1. I have enjoyed being an early adapter and experimenting with Null and Tizen on the watch. Maybe Android Wear is in our future.
I want to see this. I really need to get off of this touchwiz train. Wear works with any android at least 4.3.
Hey can someone help me unbrick my alcatel one touch evolve tmobile? I tried using adb and sdk but its not working correctly for some reason. It just says closed every time i try to execute a command... :/
Btw i bricked it by editing the build prop
Does watch styler app work w Gear live?
Ian. B
Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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Sorry i was refering to @Mr Ian B's question on watchstyler on Android Wear, didn't realize it could have applied to your original question in the OP. :cyclops:
Android wear was just announced yesterday, so it will probably be a while before devs can get their hands on a device, then another while before we see a port, only after that will we see if other features like watchstyler will be able to be ported onto android wear, should not be a major problem as both are of the same platform.
Personally I cannot wait to see a port of Android wear onto the gear1, I would like to see how my gear1 fares withe the screen on feature:laugh:
Been thinking about all this - why would we want Android Wear when it doesn't offer phone answering, camera app, music, storage, etc.
Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think it would seriously limit the device.
So why are so many people dead set on putting this on the Gear?
(because we can is not a valid answer)
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Been thinking about all this - why would we want Android Wear when it doesn't offer phone answering, camera app, music, storage, etc.
Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think it would seriously limit the device.
So why are so many people dead set on putting this on the Gear?
(because we can is not a valid answer)
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Basically I would like to see a port of the 4.2.2 moving closer in Android versions to 4.4 and Wear. So we basically would have Android 4.4 with the Gear goodies and goodies of the Wear (basically Google Now).
Yes a straight Android Wear would cripple all the great features of the Gear 1 / 2.
Chris
I don't understand it eighter...
Hardware wise we have a perfect smartwatch, with more features than the newly announced smartwatches.
Ok, we don't have a round form factor but actually I like the size and wear of my Gear 1 a lot.
All the new smartwatches are not able to take and answer calls indeed. Don't have a own camera for taking pictures and video's.
Only thing they DO have, is the latest version of Android (Wear in this case, based on Android 4.4).
But looking at it closely, is our Android 4.2 so very different than Android 4.4 that we can't do normal stuff anymore ?
No, we can still do everything the new smartwatches can (software wise then).
I have Null_23 on my Gear 1 and more than happy with it !
Not going to switch to Tizen or buy another watch....mine is just perfect !
I love the way my gear is with Null ROM...
Is there anyway to get google now working on the gear 1 that would make me so happy...
Has anyone tried side loading the google now launcher?
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Yes, Google Now launcher works if sideloaded, but you also need a bunch of other packages to make it work. It's not worth it, honestly.
What really pisses me off about this watch is that it was rated worst product of the year by Engadget. Really?! Who's pocket are they in? Now you have a crop of watches with less features and they are being praised as revolutionary. Samsung was a true pioneer with this one. Yes, other watches also paved the way, but to be given such a terrible rep was completely unfair. It certainly needed improvements and was definitely a first gen smartwatch, but android wear went backwards! No phone, no camera, and in some cases, much worse battery life. I get it that the new crop have always on features but I was looking in the coveted Moto 360 forum and most were cutting that feature off...to save battery. Finally,I have never owned a gadget that got more compliments, questions, and attention than my gear 1. I still get, "Nice watch" constantly. So, did Samsung screw it up or make something brilliant? I'd say the latter, and I'm NOT a fanboy. I welcome someone who does a round form factor and improves on the gear 1 design.
Personally, I have been looking around at android wear products but I haven't been impressed by any of them that are currently coming to market now. The concepts look so much better than what is being offered like the Triwa Smartwatch concept. Samsung Galaxy Gear range looks and feels uncomfortable. Moto 360 had the right look. For now, I think I will stick with my Casio and Shark watches.
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I don't see the appeal in a smartwatch either. Smartphones already offer us so much.
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What really pisses me off about this watch is that it was rated worst product of the year by Engadget. Really?! Who's pocket are they in? Now you have a crop of watches with less features and they are being praised as revolutionary. Samsung was a true pioneer with this one. Yes, other watches also paved the way, but to be given such a terrible rep was completely unfair. It certainly needed improvements and was definitely a first gen smartwatch, but android wear went backwards! No phone, no camera, and in some cases, much worse battery life. I get it that the new crop have always on features but I was looking in the coveted Moto 360 forum and most were cutting that feature off...to save battery. Finally,I have never owned a gadget that got more compliments, questions, and attention than my gear 1. I still get, "Nice watch" constantly. So, did Samsung screw it up or make something brilliant? I'd say the latter, and I'm NOT a fanboy. I welcome someone who does a round form factor and improves on the gear 1 design.
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Your post reflects my sentiments and experience exactly! I bought this thing as a toy once they started blowing them out and it has become an indespensible part of my daily life.
I love when people with "newer" tech wonder if they should have waited until the features I have became available..What??? The newer ones can make phone calls??
crutzulee said:
Your post reflects my sentiments and experience exactly! I bought this thing as a toy once they started blowing them out and it has become an indespensible part of my daily life.
I love when people with "newer" tech wonder if they should have waited until the features I have became available..What??? The newer ones can make phone calls??
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I honestly bought this watch on a whim. I thought it was a silly concept and literally walked out of Verizon with it on an impulse buy. My plan was to play around with it, and take it back, but then it quickly grew on me. I would feel lost without my watch now. People who haven't owned one don't understand. It sounds ridiculous to say you need an extension of your smartphone, but in practice, you learn to love it.
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I honestly bought this watch on a whim. I thought it was a silly concept and literally walked out of Verizon with it on an impulse buy. My plan was to play around with it, and take it back, but then it quickly grew on me. I would feel lost without my watch now. People who haven't owned one don't understand. It sounds ridiculous to say you need an extension of your smartphone, but in practice, you learn to love it.
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Exactly.... Never wanted or was interested in getting one, till they got cheap and I was away for business for 3weeks. Bought it as a toy to play with for my boring days at a hotel. And now I totally love it. Love looking at my wrist to see who is calling and then answering or ignoring it. Very handy . I also stopped my quest to load all kinds of sounds etc. I keep it on silent all the time. The vibrations are always felt. They even wake me with the alarm feature. I also cut back on all the notifications except the basics. Anyhow I'm extremely happy with buying it, and I wonder what I will do when this things kicks the bucket. I don't want a fancy time piece or a Wear device. Now if the next gen Wear devices have the stuff I have and use on my Gear then I'll take a look. But my must haves will be a speaker to talk etc. And a camera just because I can...
Chris
Hinder us? I thought android wear was a launcher over stock android 4.4? If that's the case, the camera would still work, phone calls would still work, and the features of android wear added.
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Hinder us? I thought android wear was a launcher over stock android 4.4? If that's the case, the camera would still work, phone calls would still work, and the features of android wear added.
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Unfortunately it's not that easy as you picture it...
Our Gears are running Tizen or Android 4.2.2 and in both cases the Gears need to be upgraded to Android 4.4 in order to run Android Wear.
But upgrading our devices to Android 4.4 is not that easy.
Besides the source code (for compiling) Android 4.4, we also need source for the drivers of our hardware (like camera, speaker, microfoon, etc).
Some source is open souce, like Android itself.
But other source code is so called closed source, source code owned by someone (in our case Samsung) which they don't publish on the internet.
Not having the correct drivers will most probably be a show-stopper for getting Android Wear on our Gears.
Unless a really skilled programmer can create drivers for the hardware, or we can get our hands somehow on the source code of the drivers.
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Unfortunately it's not that easy as you picture it...
Our Gears are running Tizen or Android 4.2.2 and in both cases the Gears need to be upgraded to Android 4.4 in order to run Android Wear.
But upgrading our devices to Android 4.4 is not that easy.
Besides the source code (for compiling) Android 4.4, we also need source for the drivers of our hardware (like camera, speaker, microfoon, etc).
Some source is open souce, like Android itself.
But other source code is so called closed source, source code owned by someone (in our case Samsung) which they don't publish on the internet.
Not having the correct drivers will most probably be a show-stopper for getting Android Wear on our Gears.
Unless a really skilled programmer can create drivers for the hardware, or we can get our hands somehow on the source code of the drivers.
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I'm just saying that if a dev were to get it running, it wouldn't hinder us any way
Same here love my Gear 1 running Null with all the features, calling and camara.
thinking of getting the Gear S cause it does most of the things i do now like reply to text messeges(Tablet Talk) with keyboard which is my favorite feature. i could watch youtube and when i get a text i just answer thru my watch no need to stop what im doing on my phone.
But my only reservation with the Gear S is the strap it looks to big.
Any thoughts on the Gear S?
HI!!! this isn't probably the right place but not sure where else to ask. I am in the US and would like to have an android watch that has android apps & health apps I suppose.
I don't want to have my note 8 in hand all the time & it would be easier to have and respond to some notifications when the phone is away somewhere.
Oh & I am a female .
Can someone guide me please
thanks all!
psixichka said:
HI!!! this isn't probably the right place but not sure where else to ask. I am in the US and would like to have an android watch that has android apps & health apps I suppose.
I don't want to have my note 8 in hand all the time & it would be easier to have and respond to some notifications when the phone is away somewhere.
Oh & I am a female .
Can someone guide me please
thanks all!
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Ok, almost every smartwatch right now does the things you need, Health app and heart monitor, answer notifications and answer calls (paired with your phone), own apps.
Now, there are 3 major OS you can choose, android wear (wear OS), tizen and Apple watch.
Wear OS is not limited to one company, there are a lot of companies using it, like Huawei, LG, Fossil, Motorola, etc, the watches are highly compatible with any android phone and a lot of apps and faces (styles for your watch).
Tizen is the samsung exclusive OS for their smartwatch, is compatible with any android and iphone BUT only on Samsung phones you can have the full experience. Tizen has its own store and as Wear OS you can download apps, faces and use it as any other watch.
Apple Watch, compatible with iPhone and android BUT, only on iPhone you have all features.
GOOD.
Wear OS. Lots of companies with a wide choice, lots of apps and faces. You can use it with any android phone
Tizen. Great design for the OS, the bezel to navigate throw menus nobody has it, lot of apps (not as much as wear OS), faces. Can use it with any android phone but only on samsung you have the full experience, and is great.
Apple watch. lots of apps and support. and I dont know, I havent use any... sorry
CONS.
Wear OS, the battery life really sucks almost on all the model, One day TWO tops.
Tizen. Great battery life, minimum 3 days and 5-6 tops, the OS has been updating frequently, for example, the gear S3...
Apple watch, expensive, noy fully compatible with android
Personal opinion.
I've using Gear S3 from one year now and the battery life is great, 3-4 days using it every day to track my running, not using to sleep. All notifications on all the time, answering calls, etc etc and the best part is that I have it paired with my note 8 and I received two major updates. Is not expensive and also is the "woman" version, which is smaller and gold color.
here is a video that may help you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGvgBk9P1BQ
Wait for the Galaxy Watch Active 2, it will be the closest competitor to the Apple Watch Series 4 on the android side.
I have Huawei Watch GT best battery life.
Similar to Apple watch you can see Xiaomi Amazfit Bip
Good day,
Is there a way to install/flash WEAR OS from Google on the Samsung Galaxy Wear 3?
No
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Haven't seen anything even being possible...
@tembares
A
Why you buy Tizen device? If you want Android Wear?
B
Maybe your are willing to learn... maybe you port Wear OS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/gear-s3/gear-s3-android-wear-port-wip-t3584588
C
If somebody is interested in ROOT...
I could offer SM-R840 and/or SM-R850 Root for BTHA Version.
Not tested yet...
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@tembares
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Why you buy Tizen device? If you want Android Wear?
B
Maybe your are willing to learn... maybe you port Wear OS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/gear-s3/gear-s3-android-wear-port-wip-t3584588
C
If somebody is interested in ROOT...
I could offer SM-R840 and/or SM-R850 Root for BTHA Version.
Not tested yet...
Best Regards
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A. I didn't code to buy a Tizen, I choose the look of the watch
B. I am not technical enough
C. Thanks for offering
I hate to say it, but WearOS might be on life support. So no Apple or Samsung, obviously...Moto appears pretty much done with smartwatches....Huawei might be banned in the US...So not many people left making good WearOS watches, for starters. And no one with the cutting edge tech of Apple or Samsung, or even Fitbit really.
Fitbit might the only chance to save WearOS. Polar/Garmin have some serious hardware, but they are gaudy and beastly fitness devices. I'd consider springing for TAG, if they had all the bells and whistles of Apple or Samsung. Fossil has some nice watches out there but in terms of features they're always 1-2 generations behind.
After the announcement of Galaxy watch 4 having wear os I wonder if we can flash wear os on the watch 3 or active 2
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Source Code of GW3 and GWA2 and the older Smart Watches...
Now you can start with Far ehm Porting...
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Exynos 9110 chipset
Ignore more Storage...
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GW4 seems based on Android R aka 11 aka no idea... look here to start Farting:
Gear S3 Root and Kernel Source! (Android Wear Port Thread)
Hey guys! Some of you might know me from the LG G5 scene, but I have since moved on from there and am hoping to make some progress with the Gear S3 :) After doing some digging and paying zero attention in class today, I came across the kernel...
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GW4 has 450 x 450 Pixel:
Gear S3 Root and Kernel Source! (Android Wear Port Thread)
Hey guys! Some of you might know me from the LG G5 scene, but I have since moved on from there and am hoping to make some progress with the Gear S3 :) After doing some digging and paying zero attention in class today, I came across the kernel...
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No idea why also 720 x 720 inside... maybe higher Res in """near future"""...
Interesting Body Fat measurement... please fart to our Tizen deviceS:
Gear S3 Root and Kernel Source! (Android Wear Port Thread)
Hey guys! Some of you might know me from the LG G5 scene, but I have since moved on from there and am hoping to make some progress with the Gear S3 :) After doing some digging and paying zero attention in class today, I came across the kernel...
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About apps... I have not full access... and can't test... but can't find really interesting apps for me...
Maybe 1 day in Future I see some cool Wear Apps for me too...
Only as info.
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One of the reasons for having Wear OS in GW3 is the absence of Samsung pay in the Czech Republic. So GW4 will be the first Samsung watch with which it will be possible to pay in the Czech Republic. I have six months of GW3 titanium and I'm quite annoyed that I can't pay with them.
I'm not sure if the GW3 processor is even capable of running WearOS. Probably.
But there are other hardware differences that would make this very difficult if not impossible. The chance of WearOS coming to GW3 in the next year, maybe ever, is extremely remote.
You're better off selling your GW3 and putting the money towards GW4.
Is there any option to trade Galaxy Watch 3 BT for Galaxy Watch 4 classic LTE?
thank you
Beso said:
Is there any option to trade Galaxy Watch 3 BT for Galaxy Watch 4 classic LTE?
thank you
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Yes, Samsung had an offer for $185 on the GW3 trade-in. Go to their website.
adfree said:
@tembares
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Why you buy Tizen device? If you want Android Wear?
B
Maybe your are willing to learn... maybe you port Wear OS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/gear-s3/gear-s3-android-wear-port-wip-t3584588
C
If somebody is interested in ROOT...
I could offer SM-R840 and/or SM-R850 Root for BTHA Version.
Not tested yet...
Best Regards
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Hello i like to get port wear os to sm R850 does it have full functionality
Since this watch is using the same SoC on the Pixel Watch, is there any chance of getting WearOS?