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Android Wearables and the Galaxy Gear?

So Google just announced a new Android fork today called Android Wearables. They're partnering with every major OEM including Samsung to bring new Android Wearables-powered smartwatches to the market. The SDK Developer Previews is available NOW at http://developer.android.com/wear/index.html. How fast do we see this stuff being ported to the Gear? This is some seriously exciting stuff!

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And here's the first official product too:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/03/moto-360-its-time.html
EDIT: LG G Watch too: http://www.slashgear.com/lg-g-watch-detailed-as-first-android-wear-wearable-device-18321063/

good question
is that OS will work with old school galaxy gear? (non Gear2)

Samsung is moving forward without Android and if there Tizen powered Gear watch flair's well it will be Google vs. Samsung. As for the Galaxy Gear it's all but dead. The new watch is called Samsung Gear 2. dropping Galaxy from the name because Galaxy will be associated with Android based products.

My take on it is that Google's offering in its current incarnation just makes a phone easier to use. Google does not offer camera, advanced sensors, or other things that could be used for augmented reality. Samsung actually has good hardware, just that the battery technology and software haven't caught up yet.
What Google is trying to do is just provide a polished product using stuff that IS market-ready. Samsung will inevitably have to join the competition, but they might have an upper hand when battery technology and software DO catch up.

Anyone tried flashing Gear 2 firmware to Gear 1?

Now that the Gear 2 firmware is available, has anyone tried to flash it to the Gear 1 to see if possible? I'm thinking about trying it just to see what happens, but if someone else has tried and found out it's a day wrecker I'll hold off.

Wishful thinking.... Fails every time

Umm.. Gear 1 runs Android and Gear 2 runs Tizen or something - this is almost like asking has anyone flashed iOS6 on their Windows Phone isn't it? (or am I missing something here).
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Umm.. Gear 1 runs Android and Gear 2 runs Tizen or something - this is almost like asking has anyone flashed iOS6 on their Windows Phone isn't it? (or am I missing something here).
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The hardware itself is almost identical between the two watches. Samsung has stated they are bringing Tizen to the Gear 1. I guess I'm just a little impatient. Maybe it could be ported to work?

The original Tizen was designed as open source platform. However, after Samsung bough it, they have changed it to be a stripped down version of the androids that we see in our phones. I would assume they have made it more locked down than our typical android platforms. They did this similar to what Apple did when designing theri ios, so the dev's has to conform to their policies and make it harder to crack. Its all about money.
So even though the 2 watches are almost identical in terms of hardware, the first thing to do is try to unlock the firmware first, then we can see if it can be modified to fit the gear 1 or even any other smart watch.

bballengphd said:
The original Tizen was designed as open source platform. However, after Samsung bough it, they have changed it to be a stripped down version of the androids that we see in our phones. I would assume they have made it more locked down than our typical android platforms. They did this similar to what Apple did when designing theri ios, so the dev's has to conform to their policies and make it harder to crack. Its all about money.
So even though the 2 watches are almost identical in terms of hardware, the first thing to do is try to unlock the firmware first, then we can see if it can be modified to fit the gear 1 or even any other smart watch.
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this is interisting ... because I would consider buying a gear 2 if I could have android on it .... otherwise it would be useless to me ... and for the gear 1 .. Im not realyl fond of the size of it .... so thats sad ... they would get me sold with a gear 2 device that has android .... bad move I think .. they dont get my money.... since for just the few function it has I dont consider it really smart... so far found no device that matches these points ... except the gear 1 which is too bulky... im looking forward to that day such device with android becomes abailable

Just saw this today. Maybe we could get a custom rom based off of this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-posts-first-tizen-open-source-files-gear-2-and-gear-2-neo

Galaxy Gear Live with Android Wear?

Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.

I second ur hopes - held off on Tizen for the same reason

Whether or not Android Wear's better than Tizen all depends on which apps you use on your phone. Android Wear (like Google Now) is dependent on using Google's apps and services. Most of what Now reports off of is scraped from Gmail. I don't use Gmail or any Google apps I don't have to so Now and Android Wear are useless to me and those like me. Most corporate/professional users that use MS products, Exchange, and connect to secure networks (which typically limit apps used for personal use) aren't going to be Android Wear candidates.

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SeauxCrazy said:
Since Samsung has had their Android Wear version of their Gear watches announced (and available for order today), what's the odds of that ROM being loaded on our Gear 1 devices? I, for one, have not gone to Tizen yet in hopes of this taking place and it seems like we are on the verge of this happening. I know it will not be an official release, but something where a rooted device would be needed.
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I'm sure it'll fit perfectly with gear 2. I see the .tar having the drivers for the watch it's a dependent of

I would be very interested in a Wear port too.
As far as I can see, not too many things have changed on the Gear live compaired to the Gear 1.
Sure, the CPU would be faster but the screen and memory size are the same.

Count me in as well, this is where xda shines.... people coming together to contribute to the common goal. Can't wait.
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How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please

shamrock505 said:
How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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I second this !!

shamrock505 said:
How come every time someone starts a discussion inquiring about possible uses someone else feels the need to chime in why they don't need it? FYI-we don't give a rats ass about ur corporate structure-we want Android wear - go pontificate to ur secretary please
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It's a discussion forum, no? Everyone here is a wearables early adopter so are interested in whatever comes next. And not everyone here uses their devices the same way or wants the same things. Other than blind fanbois who clearly have no objectivity, I enjoy hearing people's different views; even if I don't agree with them. Your post added less to this discussion than mine did. People wetting themselves over something no one here knows the functional value of (yet) is the height of fanboi-ism. Android Wear could change the world as we know it. It's going to take more than a five minute conference dog and pony for that to happen.

A discussion by folks who want wear not about discussing why someone doesn't need nor want-not a fan of any particular aspect - just bored with Gear 1-if motor 360 looks good I'll purchase, if not then wait a while

Does it only work with Samsung products, I have an invite for an one plus one I want to know if it'll work with the phone too?
Ian B

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I have been waiting for Android Wear to be released. I believe it would be a wonderful fit for the galaxy gear 1. Let's not forget the functionality of the gear 1 using the Null ROM....android based. Today's conference reiterated how coding would not be that much different for normal Android code. Sounds promising to me.
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From earlier discussions and threads I believe Android wear requires a 4.4 based Rom to operate. The Gear 1 Roms and Null Rom are 4.3 based. The real hurdle will be getting a 4.4 Rom on the Gear. The Devs and contributors on XDA are very talented so with this release of the Gear Live maybe they can accomplish it.
I am curious what the battery will be like on the Gear Live with the always on features of Android wear. The screen has to go into some type of low power mode for the 300mAh battery to last through a day. I also have a Qualcomm Toq that I picked up cheap on ebay, that uses a Mirasol Screen and only has a 240mAh battery. I get 4-5 days always on with it (even over night). The Toq has a tiny processor, runs a unique OS, and the colors are not vibrant, but it is a very capable demonstration smartwatch. I think there may be a future for more advanced Mirasol screens.
Anyway good to see some excitement over our Gear 1. I have enjoyed being an early adapter and experimenting with Null and Tizen on the watch. Maybe Android Wear is in our future.

I want to see this. I really need to get off of this touchwiz train. Wear works with any android at least 4.3.

Hey can someone help me unbrick my alcatel one touch evolve tmobile? I tried using adb and sdk but its not working correctly for some reason. It just says closed every time i try to execute a command... :/
Btw i bricked it by editing the build prop

Does watch styler app work w Gear live?
Ian. B

Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.

bballengphd said:
Good question. Though I think you are about 1 week too early.
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I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.

SeauxCrazy said:
I'm sure a quite a bit early haha, but it's a discussion that you'll see a lot of I'm sure.
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Sorry i was refering to @Mr Ian B's question on watchstyler on Android Wear, didn't realize it could have applied to your original question in the OP. :cyclops:
Android wear was just announced yesterday, so it will probably be a while before devs can get their hands on a device, then another while before we see a port, only after that will we see if other features like watchstyler will be able to be ported onto android wear, should not be a major problem as both are of the same platform.
Personally I cannot wait to see a port of Android wear onto the gear1, I would like to see how my gear1 fares withe the screen on feature:laugh:

looking for a watch that is similar to apple watch 4!?

HI!!! this isn't probably the right place but not sure where else to ask. I am in the US and would like to have an android watch that has android apps & health apps I suppose.
I don't want to have my note 8 in hand all the time & it would be easier to have and respond to some notifications when the phone is away somewhere.
Oh & I am a female .
Can someone guide me please
thanks all!

psixichka said:
HI!!! this isn't probably the right place but not sure where else to ask. I am in the US and would like to have an android watch that has android apps & health apps I suppose.
I don't want to have my note 8 in hand all the time & it would be easier to have and respond to some notifications when the phone is away somewhere.
Oh & I am a female .
Can someone guide me please
thanks all!
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Ok, almost every smartwatch right now does the things you need, Health app and heart monitor, answer notifications and answer calls (paired with your phone), own apps.
Now, there are 3 major OS you can choose, android wear (wear OS), tizen and Apple watch.
Wear OS is not limited to one company, there are a lot of companies using it, like Huawei, LG, Fossil, Motorola, etc, the watches are highly compatible with any android phone and a lot of apps and faces (styles for your watch).
Tizen is the samsung exclusive OS for their smartwatch, is compatible with any android and iphone BUT only on Samsung phones you can have the full experience. Tizen has its own store and as Wear OS you can download apps, faces and use it as any other watch.
Apple Watch, compatible with iPhone and android BUT, only on iPhone you have all features.
GOOD.
Wear OS. Lots of companies with a wide choice, lots of apps and faces. You can use it with any android phone
Tizen. Great design for the OS, the bezel to navigate throw menus nobody has it, lot of apps (not as much as wear OS), faces. Can use it with any android phone but only on samsung you have the full experience, and is great.
Apple watch. lots of apps and support. and I dont know, I havent use any... sorry
CONS.
Wear OS, the battery life really sucks almost on all the model, One day TWO tops.
Tizen. Great battery life, minimum 3 days and 5-6 tops, the OS has been updating frequently, for example, the gear S3...
Apple watch, expensive, noy fully compatible with android
Personal opinion.
I've using Gear S3 from one year now and the battery life is great, 3-4 days using it every day to track my running, not using to sleep. All notifications on all the time, answering calls, etc etc and the best part is that I have it paired with my note 8 and I received two major updates. Is not expensive and also is the "woman" version, which is smaller and gold color.
here is a video that may help you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGvgBk9P1BQ

Wait for the Galaxy Watch Active 2, it will be the closest competitor to the Apple Watch Series 4 on the android side.

I have Huawei Watch GT best battery life.
Similar to Apple watch you can see Xiaomi Amazfit Bip

Watch 3 running Wear. Will it be possible to run Wear or side load Wear apps?

I got my GW3 about 8 months ago and like it more than ever. I am in Canada and change the Region a few times, and finally settled on XAR. Got BP running and I find it has all the functionality I need. Now with the announcement that GW4 will be running Wear, my fear is that new apps for GW3 will dry up and developers will focus on Wear.
So, I am curious, will Wear be more Tizen than WearOS. Will it be possible to change GW3 firmware to Wear? What about side loading Wear apps.... will that be possible?

Crystal Ball and deep look into future?
No Firmware leaked... no details nor somebody saw Wear running in action...
Maybe it looks like they are trying to hold their WatchFaces...
MAYBE old WatchFaces... maybe few of them can be used... MAYBE.
This is SM-R860 Firmware Development...
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/KOO/SM-R860/version.test.xml
I can count 40 + Versions...
IMHO nothing final...
They are still playing around... since April...
Gear S3 Root and Kernel Source! (Android Wear Port Thread)
Hey guys! Some of you might know me from the LG G5 scene, but I have since moved on from there and am hoping to make some progress with the Gear S3 :) After doing some digging and paying zero attention in class today, I came across the kernel...
forum.xda-developers.com
Best Regards

Samsungs switch to Tizen
I bought the Galaxy Watch 46mm several years ago becuase I wanted the ability to run a few apps and to make my own watch face. I started from scratch with GWS (it was GWD back then) and made my first face OK. I’ve used that face ever since (actually I recreated and tweaked it a bit with the...
forum.developer.samsung.com
Leads also to this blabla...
[Editorial] A New Era of Smartwatch Innovation Starts Here
The smartwatch is an empowering tool. It connects us with the people we care about, gives us immediate access to a wealth of information, and helps us to
news.samsung.com
Samsu.g killed also Tizen Mobile in short time....
Maybe GW3 was no commercial success...
So they need new magic words...
Best Regards

I think a GW3 update for the new hybrid OS is a pipe dream. Samsung wants to sell you a new watch - manufacturers almost never bring something like this to old hardware.
And it might [probably] be very difficult to bring the hybrid OS to the GW3 because the new hardware is developed specifically for the hybrid OS.

Is there a petition to upgrade Galaxy Watch 3 to Wear OS?