The Tab Pro 10.1 has tons of development activity. Tab S 10.5 not so much (i.e., practically none as far as roms). Just private messaged the top Developers in the Tab Pro forum asking if their work there can be ported to the Tab S. Hardware other than the screen is very similar. Seems like it should be doable (although I'm not a developer and there may be complications of which I am unaware).
Anyway, flare fired, emergency beacon activated. Let's hope we can get some port love here and get a solid rom or two going.
** They may need some guinea pigs to test things out. But these are extremely experienced recognized Devs and you should take some comfort in that.
UPDATE: All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.
TAB PRO 10.1:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
TAB S 10.5:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
Identical.
UPDATE:
Good news folks! Our little project here has resulted in a working, smooth and pretty dammed fast rom for the 10.5 (US Version). It is still in Beta but based upon my experience, everything seems to be working.
Special appreciation to @Shaheer who came here from the 10.1 Pro Forums and without the benefit of his own device built a working rom for us. My thanks also go out to all the smart people who teamed with him to make it happen.
Go give it a flash. It only gets better from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/sm-wip-rom-t2832360
** Update: Have just heard from @mrwookie6379 in the Tab Pro 10.1 forums. He has also expressed interest in developing for us. Cool.
There is a big difference between tab pro and tab s.
Maybe I'm wrong but the development is only on snapdragon version of the tab pro...
Orphee said:
There is a big difference between tab pro and tab s.
Maybe I'm wrong but the development is only on snapdragon version of the tab pro...
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All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.
TAB PRO 10.1:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
TAB S 10.5:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
Identical.
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If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.
My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
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If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.
My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
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i have the 10.1 and have been considering the S and so looking around here to make my decision. i will say that the Exynos component is probably going to prevent us from every seeing CM11 becase they dont develeop for it. also there is very little dev for the 10.1 and what little there is sees very little updates and most roms seem to be abandoned.
none of the 10.1 to date have developed far enough to make me want to install them yet.
you can look here to see them and then check OP for last update and you will see what i mean
Ah the mondrianwifi, I took a look at that one initially but unfortunately it had enough subtle differences it wasn't much use.
Edit: So just did some digging, still can't find any ports of cyanogenmod to 10.1 (SM-T520). Ill spend a little bit more time digging but as far as I can tell the closest port has been the exynos 5410 samsung galaxy s4 which is what I forked my current port.
When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...
It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
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When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...
It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
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By "development" are you referring only to CM? That's a pretty narrow definition of development. And of course no CM for Exynos but lots of TW based roms as you can see from the Tab Pro forum.
CM is awesome and clean and light and fast but you also give up the entire TW ecosystem including multiwindow which is a big price to pay for a little more speed.
Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.
I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
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Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.
I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
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Well using that argument, CM is just tweaked Android.
Yes of course ...........
Well so far no responses to my private messages from the developers at Tab Pro forum. Next step will be to post in the actual threads and ask nicely for help. These guys probably get a million PMs so I'm not surprised not to hear a response.
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Well using that argument, CM is just tweaked Android.
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And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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Contact UpInTheAir. He knows a lot about this stuff.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
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Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
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Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?
You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?
You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
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5420, 5422, and the 5800 use the T628.
As for the crash it looks like its happening somewhere between hwcomposer, gralloc, libEGL, and libGLES_mali. I put that fork on pause while I try take a look at the arndale_octa mali code.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.
I couldn't do as good as you did.
Thank you a lot
Orphee said:
Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.
I couldn't do as good as you did.
Thank you a lot
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Lol, argue with me about what, that only CM development is real development? The entire Development section of any Samsung forum is dedicated to non-CM based roms and represents 95% of all development for that device - and simple they're not.
The purpose of this thread is to draw rom development to the Tab S 10.5. Denigrating TW developers and comparing their efforts to model rocketry doesn't help. As far as CM being the space shuttle, that ship is already built and on the pad, you're just looking for the launch codes.
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For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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Mr Dasher said:
For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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There are a number of roms for the 10.1 Pro which has the Exynos does it not? They may be TouchWiz based but still debloated and faster.
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I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
BarryH_GEG said:
The reason there was little development for the 10.1 Pro wasn't Exynos, it was because no one bought it. N10.1-14's with S Pen could be had as refurbs for $350 and even at retail they were close to the same price. After the N10.1-14 received 4.4 the only thing missing compared to the Pro was M-UX and to some that was a good thing. The N10.1-14's dev community if fairly decent for a tablet. Samsung's going to sink gazillions of marketing dollars in to the S' and with their AMOLED displays they finally have a distinguishing feature. Whether officially or via neglect the 8.4/10.1 Pro's are dead with the equivalent S' replacing them.
Everyone's claiming confusion about Samsung's tablet line but it's actually pretty clear. Entry level = Tab 4's, premium devices = the S', and productivity/creation devices = the Note's. The non-Note Pro's were apparently just a stop gap until the S' were ready.
Regardless, comparing development for the S' to the 10.1 Pro's is apples and oranges.
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Hey BarryH, long time no see. Yep, there will be plenty of development for the 10.5 S as it is likely to be very popular.
mitchellvii said:
Hey BarryH, long time no see.
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Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
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Hey there. For once I'm not lusting after the next "shiny" thing on the horizon; for both my phone and tablet. I have a N10.1-14 that I love and its replaced my laptop 50% of the time. Next time I'm in Latin America I'm going to replace my 3G with a 4G version sold there that works on AT&T. All Samsung's newer high-end tablets are really the same with some s/w and h/w tweaks. With the exception of the Tab S' AMOLED display and finger print reader mostly the former. UI wise, with the exception of M-UX being omitted, Samsung brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro" level with the 4.4 update. If I didn't use S Note/S Pen and was a consumption user I'd be all over the Tab S. Both for its display and color. Who could resist Titanium Bronze? Hope you enjoy yours.
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I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
Barry. Your a GOD. you just killed another thread with your amazing insight. Kudos! ?
mitchellvii said:
I actually do not care for titanium bronze. Looks like dark gray to me. I wanted black but settled for white.
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I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
BarryH_GEG said:
I was just kidding. I thought the name was funny and more suitable for a Ford or Chevy. I'd probably get white too.
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Although with my white tablet and case I feel a little like Tony Curtis in The Great Race. Just call me Leslie.
Mr Dasher said:
For those who are waiting for custom ROM's for the Tab S (WiFi) you maybe disappointed. From my experience with the Tab Pro (WiFi) there are no custom ROM's for the Exynos SOC. I am hoping someone can prove me wrong.
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I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
takeadare said:
I'm longing mostly for root, so I can dump the bloatware and hopefully get OTG working.
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I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
aznguyen316 said:
I came here looking for root options. Does the towel root from Geohot not work on the Tab S?
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saw a post in the TR thread in gs5 forum..."Samsung galaxy tab pro 8.4 ,this method does not work, it reboots."
Cant wait to root this sucker myself.
Mr Dasher said:
I guess you're right. For me those modified stock ROM'S never provided enough benefit to make me root my tablet to install. By custom ROM'S I mean ROM'S that include such things as tweaked kernels, ie, Cyanogen Mod.
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Up to individual taste. For me CM is just too bland a interface, I actually like TW and have "cooked" a few ROMs in the past. They are actually "custom" as modified from Samsung, so is CM, modified from Google is "custom"........but each to their own.
Devices running TW firmware do actually have "tweaked kernels", such as my Note 3 is running my own SkyHigh kernel built from official Samsung sources.
When I get my hands on a 8.4 LTE model, that's exactly what I'll be doing too !
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Its not a TW issue. I think Samsung devices with Snapdragon SoC have the fully custom ROMs. Devices with the Exynos CPU's usually don't.
When it comes to roms there is one thing I look for. Speed. Unless they go crazy with colors, theming or silly fonts I don't care much how it looks since I use a launcher anyway. Although I enjoy CM I miss the Samsung features such as split screen.
I would make Alliance rom for the tab s just need to afford one lol ?
When is development for the device going to pick up? There's not much out there! I know it just came out but I expected more. I installed the Sky high Kernel after I rooted and I really like it. I have my A15 cores overclocked to 2.1GHz and have all cores undervolted, as well as overclocked the GPU and the device is totally stable!! My only issue with root/SkyHigh kernel (not sure which is the issue) is that my screen mirroring does not work. It will try to connect and say hardware issue. Anyways, everyone just post your thoughts, opinions and such about the device and development. I'd love to hear ideas and info out there. This device is AmAzInG!
Yep the 8.4 got a kernel but nary a peep on any rom activity. I think the problem is that most developers that wanted a high res tab like this already bought the Pro model and are not upgrading to the S.
I'm waiting on someone to port CM over so I can go pure Android and get rid of this excessive Touchwiz javascript lag on pageloads. For that I'd happily give up the gimmicky stuff like split screen that I rarely use anyway.
mitchellvii said:
Yep the 8.4 got a kernel but nary a peep on any rom activity. I think the problem is that most developers that wanted a high res tab like this already bought the Pro model and are not upgrading to the S.
I'm waiting on someone to port CM over so I can go pure Android and get rid of this excessive Touchwiz javascript lag on pageloads. For that I'd happily give up the gimmicky stuff like split screen that I rarely use anyway.
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Cm??? Good luck.
mitchellvii said:
Yep the 8.4 got a kernel but nary a peep on any rom activity. I think the problem is that most developers that wanted a high res tab like this already bought the Pro model and are not upgrading to the S.
I'm waiting on someone to port CM over so I can go pure Android and get rid of this excessive Touchwiz javascript lag on pageloads. For that I'd happily give up the gimmicky stuff like split screen that I rarely use anyway.
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I personally have been a fan of the Touchwiz UI. And actually like and use a lot of its features. This is a very capable tablet and I think devs will arise soon.
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Cm??? Good luck.
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Why not? The Tab Pro line has CM.
There will be more development when we have a working recovery. No one really wants to drop mods if there's no way to flash them. Hopefully Team Win will read my email.
mitchellvii said:
Why not? The Tab Pro line has CM.
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All the devs just laid out good $ for the pro....its gonna be a while we get any good devs. Just enjoy touchwiz and root.
12MaNy said:
There will be more development when we have a working recovery. No one really wants to drop mods if there's no way to flash them. Hopefully Team Win will read my email.
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Philz recovery please.
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All the devs just laid out good $ for the pro....its gonna be a while we get any good devs. Just enjoy touchwiz and root.
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The S line is better than the Pro, right?
Stupid1337deer said:
The S line is better than the Pro, right?
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Other than the screen? Same. Unless a Dev is really wanting amoled screen, we might be Sol for a while. Sammy needs to stop making new tabs every few months.
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Other than the screen? Same. Unless a Dev is really wanting amoled screen, we might be Sol for a while. Sammy needs to stop making new tabs every few months.
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Well I love the screen lol.
mitchellvii said:
Why not? The Tab Pro line has CM.
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No, only the Qualcomm based Snapdragons, not Exynos based models like the Tab S.
Freakstyler said:
No, only the Qualcomm based Snapdragons, not Exynos based models like the Tab S.
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Ur right. Forgot about the Exynos thing.
I'll tell you this,if we get anxious about a new device and the possible abilities. so will the devs
Recovery works well so it won't be long
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Beans is looking to bring his super fine Alliance rom to our tab. First he looking for donations to help him buy one. He's a stand up guy so any money you give him, will go towards product purchase and development.
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Other than the screen? Same. Unless a Dev is really wanting amoled screen, we might be Sol for a while. Sammy needs to stop making new tabs every few months.
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I would disagree. It's better looking, lighter. Software and hardware perform much better
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Rooting and recovery can be done in minutes that's got to be a good sign
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I'm just waiting on a deodexed ROM for T700. Then I'll start theming.
Hello guys,
As I couldn't find any topic about this I decided to create one.
Will note 4 exynos version ever get 64 bit enable.
I don't think it will get officially from Samsung. But is it really possible to port from S6?
Is there any dev working on this?
Cheers!
Dont expect it bro, it wont be enabled by Samsung because.. its gonna be a Note 5 feature.
well, I guess porting a future rom like Note 5 or GS6 and a 64bit kernel will do the job, we have amazing devs here, this is all im dreaming off...my 2 cents
I would love to see this happening.
I would like to see somebody porting the S6 Kernel to Note 4, but there are people saying that there are way too much difference from our 5344 to the 7420.
Another way to go would be porting from Tab S 10.5 which also has the 5433, If Samsung ever launch a 64 bit Kernel for that device.
Will this help
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/9/1036
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How to apply this patch?
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duvalbmarley said:
Will this help
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/9/1036
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Could you please explain to a noob what exactly is this patch?
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Could you please explain to a noob what exactly is this patch?
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It has to be implemented into a kernel
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Best bet is to get a Galaxy S6 Edge if you want a good phone with 64bit.
I thought we pretty much got over this topic in the Snapdragon vs. Exynos thread, I said many times don't expect Samsung to implement 64bit in the Note 4 Exynos.
POLO_i780 said:
Best bet is to get a Galaxy S6 Edge if you want a good phone with 64bit.
I thought we pretty much got over this topic in the Snapdragon vs. Exynos thread, I said many times don't expect Samsung to implement 64bit in the Note 4 Exynos.
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No doubts Samsung will never implement 64bit in Note 4 officially.
The question that remains is. Is it possible for some dev to do it?
x64 wouldn't even make much of a difference, it's more marketing than actual relevant improvement... But whatever, still an improvement.
The SoC is theoretically capable, so, even if it is unlikely to get it from a S6 port, it isn't impossible.
Samsung porting the device to x64? No. They'll sell the Note 5 as a x64 device.
jvtrigo said:
No doubts Samsung will never implement 64bit in Note 4 officially.
The question that remains is. Is it possible for some dev to do it?
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Just a question for you. Why do you want your phone 64-bit enabled?
Archiimonde said:
Just a question for you. Why do you want your phone 64-bit enabled?
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HI Archiimonde,
This tread is not to know why I want it enable and the benefits or non benefits of having it.
This tread is to know if it is doable and if there is anyone working on it.
Regards
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No doubts Samsung will never implement 64bit in Note 4 officially.
The question that remains is. Is it possible for some dev to do it?
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Of course it is possible for a dev to do it, but it takes a lot of time and going by the lack of kernel devs developing kernel's for the 910C I'd argue that no one is willing to take on such a project, especially considering it won't bring any major performance improvements. If say there was a nice reward someone might want to spend the time, but as it stands right now, this section is severely lacking in devs.
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Of course it is possible for a dev to do it, but it takes a lot of time and going by the lack of kernel devs developing kernel's for the 910C I'd argue that no one is willing to take on such a project, especially considering it won't bring any major performance improvements. If say there was a nice reward someone might want to spend the time, but as it stands right now, this section is severely lacking in devs.
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well, I will be the first one to donate, maybe in the future we can open a donation thread, I know im not alone on this one, a lot of people wants to see what this phone is capable of, also I guess porting a Note 5 rom will be less trouble than a Gs6, only time will tell, but I have my hopes :fingers-crossed:
hhhmmmm i really like to have this 64bit active on my N910C too but getting CM official is more exciting to have
I strongly feel that people have no clue what the benefit of 64 bit enabled note 4 would be, but at least it gives a reason to be unsatisfied.
v1rtu4l said:
I strongly feel that people have no clue what the benefit of 64 bit enabled note 4 would be, but at least it gives a reason to be unsatisfied.
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It's like when they scream "WHY NOT 4GB RAM???", when they at the same time try to use as little as possible...
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Of course it is possible for a dev to do it, but it takes a lot of time and going by the lack of kernel devs developing kernel's for the 910C I'd argue that no one is willing to take on such a project, especially considering it won't bring any major performance improvements. If say there was a nice reward someone might want to spend the time, but as it stands right now, this section is severely lacking in devs.
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I'm gonna take a look at this when I'm back home later tonight. But I honestly doubt the success of it.. The Exy is already not documented that well and I have only found some parts hinting to 64bit support when developing for it. But I'll give it a try [emoji16]
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I'm not totally new to compiling CM for devices, as I compiled the sources for the Samsung i9100 and Motorola titan before. However starting development on a new device is a bit more challenging. Are there people who can help with starting this build? I already found this CM wiki page, but it kinda assumes you know what you're looking for when filling in the blanks. (or toe be more precise, know where to look in the locations for the required values)
It would also be nice to work together with someone who developed for a device before.
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I'm not totally new to compiling CM for devices, as I compiled the sources for the Samsung i9100 and Motorola titan before. However starting development on a new device is a bit more challenging. Are there people who can help with starting this build? I already found this CM wiki page, but it kinda assumes you know what you're looking for when filling in the blanks. (or toe be more precise, know where to look in the locations for the required values)
It would also be nice to work together with someone who developed for a device before.
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Since it comes with an Exynos 7 Octa 5433 chip it seems to be impossible at the moment. Samsung didn't release all the documentation of the chip. I hope someone will be able to get something going, even for the exynos 7420 on my Galaxy S6
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Since it comes with an Exynos 7 Octa 5433 chip it seems to be impossible at the moment. Samsung didn't release all the documentation of the chip. I hope someone will be able to get something going, even for the exynos 7420 on my Galaxy S6
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Hmmm, this one is more difficult then the Exynos 5 in the T800? (cm12.1 is being build for that tablet) There also is an Optimalrom and a custom Kernel for this device... I'd think it should be possible.
I don't know if it is more difficult. The optimalrom is just a debloated and deodexed rom, still close to touchwiz. Cyanogenmod uses a whole other kind of building. Kernels are a bit modifies, but there is no heavy overclocking or undervolting possible yet.
Has anyone consulted the guys that worked on the Tab S version? They might be of some help.
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The international Note 4 is the only other device with the Exynos that is in the S2
Look at teameos.org, they have their own builds for the note 4 exynos. Not cm12, but you may be able to find whatever missing pieces you need to work on it
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I'm not totally new to compiling CM for devices, as I compiled the sources for the Samsung i9100 and Motorola titan before. However starting development on a new device is a bit more challenging. Are there people who can help with starting this build? I already found this CM wiki page, but it kinda assumes you know what you're looking for when filling in the blanks. (or toe be more precise, know where to look in the locations for the required values)
It would also be nice to work together with someone who developed for a device before.
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I'm buying the 8' version this week. I hope to achieve some development on it.
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Look at teameos.org, they have their own builds for the note 4 exynos. Not cm12, but you may be able to find whatever missing pieces you need to work on it
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I'm planning to use their sources for the build.
CTXz, Great to see you here! Hopefully you'll have some success rather than the Tab 4?. Can't wait to see what you can truly achieve!
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They also support the exynos 5433 with their new marshmallow development
CTXz said:
I'm buying the 8' version this week. I hope to achieve some development on it.
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Would you mind if I tag along to see if I can get your result running on my 9.7?
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T_I said:
Would you mind if I tag along to see if I can get your result running on my 9.7?
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Just picked it up today. I guess that should be possible. They use the same specs right?
This is exciting. I'm available for help. I've got an 8.
CTXz said:
Just picked it up today. I guess that should be possible. They use the same specs right?
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As far as I could find the only difference is battery capacity. (sorry for the late reply, I've been busy with a job transition)
CTXz said:
I'm buying the 8' version this week. I hope to achieve some development on it.
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Any progress??
suzook said:
Any progress??
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Check my dev post in the General section for progress
Just released CM 12.1 in the android development section
Wow, wish someone would port this for 810!
CTXz said:
Just released CM 12.1 in the android development section
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I'm going to nick your sources and see if I can compile.
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On reading up in the Galaxy Nexus forums, I saw that the TI-OMAP 4 was not supported in AOSP Lollipop and above. Is this why our OMAP phones perform poorly on ART based ROMs, while ROMs using the dalvik compiler are smoother? In AOSP Nougat, the Snapdragon 800 and 801 chips using the Adreno 330 GPU are no longer supported as well. I guess my question is if it will it be possible to reverse engineer OMAP-4 drivers for Nougat that can support the new surface view texture renderer?
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I MIGHT be possible to support it, but would take a bit of work, offloading that stuff to the CPU (which is just what we need, right?) and all of which is above my skill level.
Bobcus Leper said:
On reading up in the Galaxy Nexus forums, I saw that the TI-OMAP 4 was not supported in AOSP Lollipop and above. Is this why our OMAP phones perform poorly on ART based ROMs, while ROMs using the dalvik compiler are smoother?
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The performance problems are probably a mix of slowish eMMC (have to load the precompiled ART files, and they're not exactly tiny), lack of main memory (ART has a bigger memory footprint), and an unsuitable CPU that was outdated when the phone was built, nevermind nowadays. The latter two are what seem to really kill us in CM13; if we're not stuck reclaiming memory, we're saturating the CPU : \
Having Motorola stroll in and develop some up-to-date, optimized drivers sure would be cool, though...hardware is hardware, but good firmware can make a lot out of little.
Nougat is apparently taking a step back and re-introducing JIT execution...so if our resident maintainer does somehow pull off yet another miracle and we get CM14 on here, I'd expect less I/O and memory pressure at the very least. The stock partitions would become viable again too, what with /data/ not being clogged by ART precompiles, and being able to run off them might also offer a (small) performance increase. /system/ is gonna be a tight fit, though...
But using drivers built in two previous, different eras of Android, most of which were for another device...seems like it's gonna take some serious work.
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Galaxy Nexus has Nougat!
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Nougat build is up. No, I have not died, and neither has the Galaxy Nexus.
Decided to take an extra couple days to get this build stable rather than rushing out something that boots and does nothing else, sorry for the delay.
I can't verify the full functionality of the RIL since I don't have a SIM in my GNex these days, so let me know if there's any issues with that.
Everything else should be working well though.
No idea what to do for GApps at this time. I haven't tried them yet.
Download: aosp_n_tuna_2016-08-27.zip
As usual this was a team effort. @Ziyan helped, and @Hashcode (who I thought had died) helped as well.
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Last time i talked with i Dev about Andoid 7 on the Droid 4, i was told that it would not be possible because of SELinux. But that Info is almost a year old. Maybe someone has more up to date information about this.
1f5 said:
Last time i talked with i Dev about Andoid 7 on the Droid 4, i was told that it would not be possible because of SELinux. But that Info is almost a year old. Maybe someone has more up to date information about this.
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Thanks! Maybe we should ask @stargo about it. Although, I know stargo likes to surprise people with a new Android version.
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Really hoping this old beast will get CM14 due to the coding magic of stargo or some other guys out there.
I recently aquired a completely new Droid 4 from a Verizon reseller in mint condition. Now I never want to live without a slider again!
It is a bit slow, gets hot sometimes and becomes pretty much unuseable with Google Play installed, but who needs that stuff anyways.
Can keep me warm in winter and after replacing stock apps with Naked Browser and Simple Music Player it runs well and fast.
Please don't let this slider die. The only alternative to this device is the Photon Q and this needs to be soldered due to the missing SIM slot.
Bro i think it will have a cm14 for the droid 4
Bro, there say that it is official for the droid 4 to get cm14 check on gammerson .com
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u.b.o.o.t said:
Hi folks! I had some spare time to setup CM13 build tool chain and - maybe too late for @Septfox - I made a custom kernel with LMK accounting for swap memory, i.e. LMK does only consider memory pages as free which won't require swapping, now. In order to not spam this thread anymore with LMK issues and memory tuning, I created a new thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/wip-custom-kernel-lowmemorykiller-t3470411
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JooJooBee666--
This is cool. I'll test these out here as well. If things look good I'll see about getting LMK changes added to the cm13 kernel and upcoming cm14 kernels (work just began).:good:
Bobcus Leper said:
CM14 confirmed?:fingers-crossed::good:
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JooJooBee666 --
Not really confirmed (as in no promises it will ever be fully functional as of yet). Just started working on getting things compiling. After that, it's along ways a way from anything usable as there are some new hurdles to overcome thanks to additional lock-downs on SE Linux. So yeah, :fingers-crossed: is right.
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I've closed it anyway.