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hi, i have an htc one s and i want to upgrade. after some searches i think that XZ is the phone for me. but first i have some questions
1) I have read that after the 4.2.2 patch the phone can support exFAT microSD cards, is this true? (it is important to me because i want to transfer files bigger than 4gb)
2)If the previous is true, how do you format the microSD cards? from the phone or from pc?
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
4) i have read on sony forums that after the 4.2.2 patch some users complained of lag in various areas, such as swaping through menus, gallery, games etc. anyone else experience this?
5) i watch movies A LOT, i often go to friends and mirror the movies from my phone to their tv through the MHL. Currently i have a samsung MHL adapter, do i need to buy another one or does this one suffice?
6) can the Xperia Z play 720p/1080p @ 48fps mkv/mp4 movies without any stutter?
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
and the most important questions:
does it blend?
All great questions. I just ordered the Z so I cannot answer them. I will let you know when I review the unit.
Warmo said:
hi, i have an htc one s and i want to upgrade. after some searches i think that XZ is the phone for me. but first i have some questions
1) I have read that after the 4.2.2 patch the phone can support exFAT microSD cards, is this true? (it is important to me because i want to transfer files bigger than 4gb)
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That's true.
2)If the previous is true, how do you format the microSD cards? from the phone or from pc?
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Pc or Phone
Phone: Settings>Storage> Unmount Sd Card > Mount SD Card and it should be done.
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
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That's not an issue, just download an FTF file from this forum, doesn't really matter from which country.
(Btw Sal)
4) i have read on sony forums that after the 4.2.2 patch some users complained of lag in various areas, such as swaping through menus, gallery, games etc. anyone else experience this?
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They were probably to lazy not to do a full wipe before installing 4.2.2.
I underCLOCKED my cpu to 1ghz and I have no lag and I'm not even a wizard...
5) i watch movies A LOT, i often go to friends and mirror the movies from my phone to their tv through the MHL. Currently i have a samsung MHL adapter, do i need to buy another one or does this one suffice?
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If I'm corrrect the one from Samsung works, not sure tho.
On the SonyMobile site you can buy one for about 30Euro
6) can the Xperia Z play 720p/1080p @ 48fps mkv/mp4 movies without any stutter?
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Shouldn't be a problem @ 30 fps, not sure about 48
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
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I'd like to refer you to this topic and judge for yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172712
Look from page 35 or something.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
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I also came from an Amoled phone (Galaxy Note) and I have no complaints, but that's just me, you have to judge it for yourself.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
Just make sure to get screen protectors before you use the phone and you should be ok, also don't forget to get a case.
and the most important questions:
does it blend?
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It does blend, but it DOES NOT BEND! So don't try it!
Pa:highfive::silly:
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
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Camera is not that great. I am an amerture photographer and I was more impressed with my last phone (i9100). Main issue is Sony overcompress the images so there is quite a lot of noise. Low light is pretty poor really but that is my opinion. If the lighting is favourable then the quality is more than acceptable.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality
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The screen is very sharp and brightness is good. Compared to the AMOLED of the samsungs the colours are more natural which I like. Blacks are not as good though but the Sony screen is a joy to work with none the less.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
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Given the Xperia is mostly glass on the outside it would be more likely to break than an aluminium one or at least twice as likely for you to end up with broken glass (ie the back or the front). Also the glass comes pre coverd with anti shatter platic film which is very easy to scratch and cannot be replaced. That said I dont use any protection with mine and I'm not that fussed. I don't expect it to look like new when I'm done with it though and I like it to be naked so it isn't bulky in my pocket. I've droped mine a couple of times and it bounced pretty well. The only marks are from when I put it it my pocket with my keys and the sharp car key marked the screen protector.
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
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you should try ftf for generic europe or central, or unbranded spain: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
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well, i was a bit afraid of screen angles, because a lot of people don't reccomend z because of that, however when i finally turn on the phone, i was impressed. Maybe you won't be able to check the clock when you're in bed if you have bright wallpaper, but the resolution, brightness quickly cover this minus
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
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It's not a tough guy, better buy some kind of case, or pay some attention to it. It fell once for me from around 50-60 cm, but fortunately, nothing happend to him
thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. Only questions that are still a concern to me are 4) and 6).
so what can you tell me about the fluidity of the 4.2.2 patch and how it runs 720p/1080p @48 fps movies? i'm asking for 48 fps movies because after Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit" every single HD/fullHD movie on the internet went from ~24 fps to 48fps...
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thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. Only questions that are still a concern to me are 4) and 6).
so what can you tell me about the fluidity of the 4.2.2 patch and how it runs 720p/1080p @48 fps movies? i'm asking for 48 fps movies because after Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit" every single HD/fullHD movie on the internet went from ~24 fps to 48fps...
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I'd say link us a 48fps clip and we can test it for ya.
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I'd say link us a 48fps clip and we can test it for ya.
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http://www.lukeletellier.com/[email protected]+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv
I came from one s and had no regrets at all. But mine was villec2. Screen wise, I prefer z to one s.
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http://www.lukeletellier.com/[email protected]+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv
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Nopes.
Of course it does play, but with hiccups and not in sync at all.
I tried it with MX Player.
(4) First, like Dsteppa (@ #3 post) said, laggy or not depends mostly on how one updates to 4.2.2 (from 4.1.2). Full wipe / factory reset / clean install do really help to avoid lagging.
I've tried serveral approaches to update my XZ to 4.2.2, and finally achieved "no lag" by doing this: format whatever partition I can think of on the phone (system, data etc.) hence resulted in "soft-brick" (phone won't boot but stuck at the SONY logo screen), then plug the phone to SONY's Update Service to repair by flashing the latest 4.2.2 onto it, followed by installing every single app back to the phone 'manually' and not through backups from Titanium Pro.
Second, lagging or not may also be app related. 2 out of 103 apps that I installed do result in sluggish and heat up when run; one is a local weather app, and the other one is Chrome. Both are running good and smooth on 4.1.2 but not on 4.2.2. My wild guess is that they're not optimized for XZ 4.2.2 yet. Freeze them with Titanium Pro (root required) and my XZ is running smooth and ice cold now.
Anyway, I believe if you get a new XZ right now, it should be with 4.2.2 out of the box, so, there shouldn't be any problem, just be aware of what app to use and you'll be fine.
(about my XZ: stock rom 423, Generic HK R4B, odexed, rooted, mod with PureXAudio v18 / Navigation Bar 36dpi)
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(6) The 'stock' movie player does have some limitations to play those formats you mentioned. "MX Player" does not.
I have tried 480/720/1080, interlaced/progressive, 23.976(or 24)/.../60fps, level 3.0/.../5.1, H.264/AVC/mpeg, AAC/Dolby AC-3/DTS (custome codec required for DTS), mkv/mp4, subtitle(s) with UTF-8 format, 10gb+ a file... etc with MX Player Pro on my XZ, play smooth and no problem so far EXCEPT those files with 10-bit color-rendering instead of the normal use of 8-bit (since 10-bit is not yet supported by hardware acceleration).
I don't have any mkv/mp4 file with HFR 48fps since I only render my DVDs and Blu-rays with framerate set as source, and there is no DVD/Blu-ray disc comes with 48fps so far in the market, including the blu-ray release of Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit", which is using 24p instead of the HFR 48fps like it's theatrical release. Reason is that today's commercial grade blu-ray player and TV doesn't support such framerate for it is not a standard yet; well, in the future yes may be. If you really want to play HFR 48 materials, you will need some industrial grade equipments, like those for use in studios.
So I doubt if XZ can really support 48fps playback; if yes, XZ won't be this small in size, plus, it won't be selling at this price.
Just a side note, movie that you download from Internet which claims itself running at 48fps, is just a gimmick and use 'fake' frame to achieve it's so-called 48fps, not true HFR 48. When playback, it won't do any good but harm your system/player since extra computing power is required to handle/correct those fake frames, which are supposingly not being there.
Hope this help.
Hello,
Does anybody here know or at least suggest me, what should I keep (I already own the iPhone 5 but I can't use it when my parents are not at home) or should I go and buy XSP (there's a discount for this device otherwise I would need to consider about S3 Mini or Xperia M) which I could use at anytime I want? Thanks to everyone who answers!
XSP is heads and shoulders better than XM or S3. And since S3 Mini is a cut-down version of S3, both in size *and* specs, IMHO there is no reason to prefer the alternatives.
You do have to remember that moving to Android means leaving the Apple ecosystem behind. You'll have to repurchase apps, and there might be some games that are not available on Android.
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XSP is heads and shoulders better than XM or S3. And since S3 Mini is a cut-down version of S3, both in size *and* specs, IMHO there is no reason to prefer the alternatives.
You do have to remember that moving to Android means leaving the Apple ecosystem behind. You'll have to repurchase apps, and there might be some games that are not available on Android.
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I know but I mean the key features like multitasking, camera, headphone that comes with the phone and so on. I know that some games on iOS aren't on Android (like Infinity Blade 2) but that doesn't matter me much, the only game I play on the phone is Clash of Clans and sometime (rlly rarely) I play Asphalt 8 (which I have purchsed for both Android and iOS, no worry for piracy) so.. I just care for the key features like the rear and the front camera. Both of the phones have 8MP camera rear camera but the exposure is different, is that a big difference between the quality? And like the screen, as I know the iPhone 5 comes with an Retina HD display and XSP with TFT HD display but with BE2/X-Reality so I don't which is better
Pretty much everything is better on the iPhone 5. It has better multitask, camera, comes with better headphones, has better hardware performances. As an XSP user, I can't think of a feature were the XSP is better than the iPhone 5, there might be some, but the iPhone is mostly better.
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Pretty much everything is better on the iPhone 5. It has better multitask, camera, comes with better headphones, has better hardware performances. As an XSP user, I can't think of a feature were the XSP is better than the iPhone 5, there might be some, but the iPhone is mostly better.
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But as I know, Android was made for multitaking and for hardware, the XSP haves better processor and the camera is same or am I wrong?
If you want something that just works then the iPhone 5 is better.
If you want something you can play around with ROMs and have more control over the phone then the Xperia SP is better.
My preference is Xperia SP, I dont mind the iPhone as a device but its restrictions annoy me.
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But as I know, Android was made for multitaking and for hardware, the XSP haves better processor and the camera is same or am I wrong?
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Android is made for multitasking, however, due to how newer apps are build, devices require more than 1GB to run smoothly. Sadly, the SP just has 1GB of RAM, which makes it slow at times. The processor is good, but the one on the iPhone 5 is the same, if not better. And no, the camera, while 8mpx, works better on the iPhone.
david19au said:
Hello,
Does anybody here know or at least suggest me, what should I keep (I already own the iPhone 5 but I can't use it when my parents are not at home) or should I go and buy XSP (there's a discount for this device otherwise I would need to consider about S3 Mini or Xperia M) which I could use at anytime I want? Thanks to everyone who answers!
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The iPhone Camera is WAY better man.
The SP is awesome but as someone above stated,if you want something that works,the iPhone is better!
Good luck!
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Android is made for multitasking, however, due to how newer apps are build, devices require more than 1GB to run smoothly. Sadly, the SP just has 1GB of RAM, which makes it slow at times. The processor is good, but the one on the iPhone 5 is the same, if not better. And no, the camera, while 8mpx, works better on the iPhone.
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Ok but the iPhone still have only 1Gig RAM... Even some newer devices, even iPhone 5s didn't came with 2Gig RAM and for the headphones, both phone and headphone are using 3,5mm jack so... I can only think of the S5 and Z2(...?) to have 2Gig RAM so...
XxStatiX said:
The iPhone Camera is WAY better man.
The SP is awesome but as someone above stated,if you want something that works,the iPhone is better!
Good luck!
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Can You post me some comparison pictures taken w/ the iPhone and the XSP? It would be really helpful.
Ok guys, looks like I'm more undecided now, can some1 do a +/- features for both phones (like comparing them). It would be great! Thanks! :highfive:
Edit1 : It would be even better, if any1 could suggest me a phone which I can play with the /system and do a normal work/sometime playing Clash Of Clans and Asphalt 8 and for music listening at the same time. I thought that the XSP can do it but it looks like it can't
Xperia SP:
+Design
+Loud speaker
+Bigger Screen
+Unique ilumination bar
+Runs a more "open" OS, Android (and outdated one)
-Camera
-Low RAM
-Materials used feels cheap at times
-Bad screen quality
Iphone 5:
+Design
+More apps
+More updates in the future (it will at least get two more mayor iOS updates)
+Premium build quality
+Better cameraS with slow-mo video (I'm not sure if it's the 5 and 5s or just the 5s)
+Better screen quality
+Better multitasking (iOS is more optimized for multitasking nowadays in my opinion, as iPhone 5 almost never lags).
-No unique feautres
-Speaker quality is okay.
+/- iOS is not as open as Android, but it's a beatiful design nevertheless.
This is what I can think of.
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Can You post me some comparison pictures taken w/ the iPhone and the XSP? It would be really helpful.
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I can't post comparison pictures right now but there have been a lot of complaints about the XSP camera.
Some users are also experiencing some issues like blurring and extremely poor low light pictures.
If you need a good camera,dont get the XSP.
I don't think these issues are only with my device.
The phone is amazing in other aspects like hardware but if the camera is important,take a comparison from someone else has both the phones!
I'm sorry I can't put up pictures because I'm waiting at the airport
Good luck!
The camera on the SP is REALLY bad, the lenses even get scratched super easily, that's why people get blurry/overexposed pictures. If it's your priority, the more reasons to go for iPhone.
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The camera on the SP is REALLY bad, the lenses even get scratched super easily, that's why people get blurry/overexposed pictures. If it's your priority, the more reasons to go for SP.
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I think you meant "Go for iPhone"!
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I think you meant "Go for iPhone"!
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Completely, thanks.
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Ok guys, looks like I'm more undecided now, can some1 do a +/- features for both phones (like comparing them). It would be great! Thanks! :highfive:
Edit1 : It would be even better, if any1 could suggest me a phone which I can play with the /system and do a normal work/sometime playing Clash Of Clans and Asphalt 8 and for music listening at the same time. I thought that the XSP can do it but it looks like it can't
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This phone can perfectly do that! Asphalt 8 runs fine with 0 lag on ultra settings and you should be able to play music when playing either of these games
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And I know one thing about the i5: the WiFi sucks! My dad is always complaining about how he doesn't find any networks while I can find like 10 with my sp or that he can't connect to certain wireless network while I can
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noahvt said:
And I know one thing about the i5: the WiFi sucks! My dad is always complaining about how he doesn't find any networks while I can find like 10 with my sp or that he can't connect to certain wireless network while I can
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The SP had some WiFi reception problems (range) but the latest update has fixed it.
WiFi reception is perfect now!
When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
i'm getting one next month
mitchellvii said:
When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
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just wish Amazon weren't pushing their Fire tablets so hard, then we could have Amazon Instant Video as well
not sure if the flash/dolphin hack still works but for those of us in EU, silverlight only
this could the start of premium android tablets driving apps designed for that screen real estate
can only be a good thing for the sector in general
orangespoon said:
we could have Amazon Instant Video as well
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I use PlayOn (not free) for AIV and the rest (Hulu, HBOGO, TBS, Netflix, etc.). It uses the stock video player which works in multi view and pop-up-play. The stock player has lots of other features too like resizing, display settings, audio settings, and onscreen controls. So far, across the Notes, Pros, and S', the stock browser is the most responsive. I don't want to screw around with multiple browsers and Flash just to watch AIV. YMMV.
I like to watch mind numbing sitcoms while doing work on my tablet so view them in a pop-up-play window at the same time. Here's How I Met Your Mother on AIV...
Speaking of the stock browser. Any idea how we get it to sink with our Chrome Bookmarks? It used to do that but seems like it no longer does. How do I import my bookmarks?
I like Dolphin for one reason. Like the swipe bookmark sidebar that no one else has. Maxthon is also outstanding for easy bookmark navigation.
mitchellvii said:
When you look at size, weight, build quality, speed, screen and price you cannot find a better Internet consumption device available today than the Tab S 10.5.
For what it is it is the best there is.
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Sony's tablet is pretty sweet too.
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Any idea how we get it to sink with our Chrome Bookmarks?
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It went away when Google forked WebKit. You can sink your (Samsung) devices via your Samsung account though.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/go...ine-that-will-soon-power-chrome-and-chromeos/
I wouldn't sink this tablet. It isn't water resistant... I kid I kid...
psst sync
*this was probably the result of google voice dictation so please don't take it as serious criticism. Just me being bored.
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Sony's tablet is pretty sweet too.
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Well its not super amoled and has lower resolution. If neither of those appeal to you then yeah, it's not bad.
The only think about the stock browser, that bugs me to no end is, the fact you can keep "desktop view" on, at all times. I have too constantly select it for every website. They made a huge error, in that regard.
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I wouldn't sink this tablet. It isn't water resistant... I kid I kid...
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*this was probably the result of google voice dictation so please don't take it as serious criticism. Just me being bored.
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If only auto-correct checked grahamer.
If you want a fast good looking browser that syncs bookmarks nicely over the cloud try Maxthon HD for Tablets. Very nice. One feature I really like is the ability to instantly go back to the prior page without reloading it from the web. It also does prefetch well. Pages seem to load very quickly.
I just got mine today... am extremely impressed with it so far. Very lightweight and good quality, screen is stunning, very fast so far as well. Now ive only just about set it up and haven't really done much yet so this will get a update later. all ive done is update all the apps, took a look at Galaxy Gifts and Essentials, and setup a few differents apps on it.
true but...
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Well its not super amoled and has lower resolution. If neither of those appeal to you then yeah, it's not bad.
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
orangespoon said:
Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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Nothing a decent debloating or rom can't solve. This Tab S 10.5 is pure ocular joy. Every day I am amazed by the extreme resolution, deep blacks and vibrant colors. The only reason I can see for going with the Sony is if you plan to use the tablet in the tub ☺.
thanks, sounds interesting...
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I use PlayOn (not free) for AIV and the rest (Hulu, HBOGO, TBS, Netflix, etc.). It uses the stock video player which works in multi view and pop-up-play. The stock player has lots of other features too like resizing, display settings, audio settings, and onscreen controls. So far, across the Notes, Pros, and S', the stock browser is the most responsive. I don't want to screw around with multiple browsers and Flash just to watch AIV. YMMV.
I like to watch mind numbing sitcoms while doing work on my tablet so view them in a pop-up-play window at the same time. Here's How I Met Your Mother on AIV...]
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I have used Plex a lot as well but I prefer a simple solution and not having another server on all the time
looks like i may be ripping my BluRay collection and sticking them on an SD card
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Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc
still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
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I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
yes but...
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I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
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everyone has their own requirements
we have a 2.5 year old in the house and larger bezels would be useful
Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
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My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing
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If the N10.1-14 on 4.3 was faster than the TF-701 on 4.4 there's something amiss. AnandTech's Sunspider scores for the 8.4/10.5 were 1,082/1,015. That's pretty poor considering they and the N10.1-14 share h/w. Hopefully updates will improve things. As for Chrome, for whatever reason, it's a slug on all Samsung's high-end tablets and has been widely discussed on all their forums.
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Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
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Did you try Maxthon HD Tablet browser? It is amazingly fast and full featured. Regardless for me Chrome ran perfectly albeit I don't care for how it handles bookmarks so I switched to Maxthon. Nevertheless, lag was never a problem and Web pages always looked great and loaded fast.
When I hear these reports of terrible responsiveness in something as basic as Web browsing I have to wonder if you have a defective unit or some sort of software causing a resource conflict. Are you still using Touchwiz? Did you try another launcher such as Nova or GO? There is simply no way a tablet with this level of hardware should struggle at Web browsing at all.
The software allows mobile VR use with PC's -
My fear is that it doesn't use the sensors in the Gear VR, which will cause lag.
Does it run smoothly and is it worth a purchase?
Since there is no selling apps thru oculus storey yet I don't think the developer is that motivated to make it compatible with the vr. I will try the app out later.
well, there is a free version meant exactly to try before you buy...
why do you think not using the GearVR sensors would cause lag?
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well, there is a free version meant exactly to try before you buy...
why do you think not using the GearVR sensors would cause lag?
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Not using the Gear VR sensors cause already lag, streaming and not using the Gear VR sensors cause even bigger lag.
@Powerslash that's not really an answer to my question.
The reason I ask is just to check if I am missing something: if gearVR is running with 1ms sensor updates (I think I read somewhere it was 1000hz, right?), and the phone does something around 10ms sensor updates, playing a game at 60fps, that is updating every 16.6ms, in both cases it can happen that the timing to grab input for next frame is missed, which creates a 16ms lag either way. Now the faster sampling means that the input data will be more recent and precise for the GearVR (i.e. next frame using 1ms old data), but even with 10ms, the amount of head movement change won't be that large (with 10ms old data in worst case scenario) and the imprecision is still low... isn't it? and that's without considering predictive sensor data to interpolate input. Idk, as I said, maybe I am missing something?
Of course, streaming is a bigger hurdle to tackle but, doing it right (and possibly lowering quality expectations a little bit), I don't think it is that bad... well, I actually think you can achieve pretty good results. Have you tried it?
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@Powerslash that's not really an answer to my question.
The reason I ask is just to check if I am missing something: if gearVR is running with 1ms sensor updates (I think I read somewhere it was 1000hz, right?), and the phone does something around 10ms sensor updates, playing a game at 60fps, that is updating every 16.6ms, in both cases it can happen that the timing to grab input for next frame is missed, which creates a 16ms lag either way. Now the faster sampling means that the input data will be more recent and precise for the GearVR (i.e. next frame using 1ms old data), but even with 10ms, the amount of head movement change won't be that large (with 10ms old data in worst case scenario) and the imprecision is still low... isn't it? and that's without considering predictive sensor data to interpolate input. Idk, as I said, maybe I am missing something?
Of course, streaming is a bigger hurdle to tackle but, doing it right (and possibly lowering quality expectations a little bit), I don't think it is that bad... well, I actually think you can achieve pretty good results. Have you tried it?
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Just got my Note 4 Gear VR, on sale for $99 at Best Buy. Having used Trinus Gyre before with tremendous results on a standard cardboard, I'm looking around to find the best setup for getting it to run on the Gear VR -- maybe even a way to jury-rig some sort of usb pass-trough connection.
What do I find? The developer of the MARVELOUS Trinus Gyre just SHUTTING DOWN the opposition with an in-depth question that goes unanswered for almost a year. :silly:
Keep it up, loxai. I bought Trinus Gyre a few months back, and it has been a blast. :good::good:
Don't count on it; he says it's out of his budget, which is expected considering the initial $200 price on top of the price of a Note 4.
http://oddsheepgames.com/?topic=gear-vr-compatibility
Even then, to actually take advantage of the Gear VR sensors, he'd probably have to post it on SideloadVR or some other alternative store rather than the Oculus Store because of the way Gear VR applications need to be signed.
For me, the bigger issue at hand is that the Trinus server can't emulate a Rift tracker. This isn't surprising considering how the Oculus Runtime works, but it does mean that I can't play the Vox Machinae demo or anything else coded specifically to use the Oculus Runtime for head-tracking input rather than some other API like TrackIR or Freetrack.
Check out streamtheater. It's awesome you can get it through sideloadvr but check out the reddit thread for it. You can stream anything from your desktop to the gearvr, like steam games etc.
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Nizda1 said:
Check out streamtheater. It's awesome you can get it through sideloadvr but check out the reddit thread for it. You can stream anything from your desktop to the gearvr, like steam games etc.
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omg man this is so much better than any other solution out there!
Incredible to see this!
Without a doubt this is the best android phone out of the box yet ever. I am real happy to be able to take the best pics I ever took. It is also the best native apps set
The Samsung app set is good. Am almost off external apps. I have pushed vlc music player aside somewhat, as well as es file explorer, as well as the hacker keyboard. As I am real glad Samsung has its own keyboard and not the exterior keyboard types with their agreements and data collection.
The best thing is probably in "device care" where there is a RAM clearer under memory tab that clears out those apps that I use most often like social video apps and browser apps caches. This happening all at the press of 1 button.
Music app works well but still (as in VLC also it is) I can not go to album from a song that's playing. It would be a good option. The music comes up really fast after it indexes and takes up a much lower amount data to save.
I think it is a real nice phone for it's price, but "best android phone out of the box ever", "best pics I ever took", "best native apps set"? Nahhhhh
What are you trying to tell us?
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I think it is a real nice phone for it's price, but "best android phone out of the box ever", "best pics I ever took", "best native apps set"? Nahhhhh
What are you trying to tell us?
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Hey what areYOU trying to tell US? MRS. junior member
nao I mean obviously in my experience I been around here since about KitKat or maybe late JellyBean
but..nah you go ahead and criticize babe I like a feisty lady.
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Hey what areYOU trying to tell US? MRS. junior member
nao I mean obviously in my experience I been around here since about KitKat or maybe late JellyBean
but..nah you go ahead and criticize babe I like a feisty lady.
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Yeah, if you had a JB or KK phone before the A70, then the A70 must be amazing to you lol
But the A-series is a budget phone series. The S and Note series are better in picture quality and speed, if money is no issue and Samsung is your brand. So that was my point.
Calm down, my dear, there there. Hugs and kisses from Mrs. Beretta :laugh:
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Yeah, if you had a JB or KK phone before the A70, then the A70 must be amazing to you lol
But the A-series is a budget phone series. The S and Note series are better in picture quality and speed, if money is no issue and Samsung is your brand. So that was my point.
Calm down, my dear, there there. Hugs and kisses from Mrs. Beretta :laugh:
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yeah but I kno that b
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yeah but I kno that b
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this is not the best phone ever for sure mate. it can't be. idk if you're joking.
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this is not the best phone ever for sure mate. it can't be. idk if you're joking.
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right. No I mean not joking this things the best. I don't ever wanna mess with those 500 sterling phones again. or 1000 sterling. This phone has the best apps and whatnot. Seriously like I said, the keyboard and whole feel.
Sometimes I looked back at my first phones and they were not much bigger screen than a credit card and they were so magnificent to me then. Like the Motorola Droid 2. How awesome was that thing. In the end the phone's no better than its apps. I remember when Droid 2 got the droid 3 update and they like removed the 2 notch and -2 notch in the phone's camera brightness or something like that. Some other things too.
But If ya look around the samsung developers appear to have done something pretty special with this phone in the apps I mentioned op. I mean look at the junk that is the phones of yesteryear.
Htc my god just junk. They all had "Swiftkey" keyboard after awhile. The only option was to go emoticonless and use the Hacker Keypad. So we got that. I have a literally yellow and black background with white keys board here that doesn't report back to "Swiftkey" or "Touchpal" aaand really naive the way the music app works. It's not giant screensized art but it's real fast to load. Settings, man settings. I understand that you probably have a phone from MI6, but those other apps I mentioned and settings like dark mode. Can't be beat. And the shell of THIS phone is plastic, no cracking with sudden temp changes!
No if you think about it this phone is the best phone there ever was. An I mean seriously no phones that cost 1000 sterling. or even 700. You can keep your MI6 phone, I don't even need a phone that can disable a charging water buffalo thru sonar at 100 paces...
and forget about moddable, or modded phones. There needs to be some discussion someplace about just how evil the bad elements custom rom community has gotten for people like me who never committed no crimes when they wanted us to.
i had a galaxy s8 before the a70 which is a flagship from 2017 almost 3 years old , in some way the a70 is a downgrade from the s8 ,i dont like the camera setup the s8 with a single lens took photos way better than the a70 , photos where sharper and of higher quality and the gpu in the galaxy s8 is way faster than the gpu in the a70 other than that i cant complain it is a nice phone for the money i hope devs would start messing around with this phone maybe we can eventually get a decent camera app port or a working gcam app with complete features
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i had a galaxy s8 before the a70 which is a flagship from 2017 almost 3 years old , in some way the a70 is a downgrade from the s8 ,i dont like the camera setup the s8 with a single lens took photos way better than the a70 , photos where sharper and of higher quality and the gpu in the galaxy s8 is way faster than the gpu in the a70 other than that i cant complain it is a nice phone for the money i hope devs would start messing around with this phone maybe we can eventually get a decent camera app port or a working gcam app with complete features
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Gcam does work with it
@bodomfan it does but at 6 mega pixel i 16:9 or 8 mega pixel in 4:3 aspect ration which is lower than the stock app also no wide angle lense support