locked VZ S4 -> Dev Moto X, Is this a good idea? - Moto X Q&A

I have 1 year left on my contract and on my S4, but I use none of the special S4 features and am tired of a locked down phone. I am thinking of moving over to a moto X, and was just hoping for any and all feedback.
X+1
I am waiting for the Sept 4th announcement to do anything, But I expect the X + 1 dev edition to cost too much (anything much over $500 and I will be seriously thinking, over $600 and I am out for sure.)
I am hoping to have the new phone I get cost roughly similar to a new phone on contract after I subtract the money made by selling my nearly mint S4 (hoping $250-$300?)
About me:
I don't play games, I just need web browsing, FB, music player, view the occasional document, ect..
I am not an obsessive flasher. I want root/custom recovery to give me the option of managing my own updates. Mostly having a recent OS and the option to flash minor modifications such as offered by xposed framework or stock based roms is my biggest concern.
I use none of my touchwiz fanciness, automated things that go off automatically tend to annoy me (not sure about that voice control in this regard though it sounds cool),
Why Moto x?
Active display, Moto's payment plan, unlocked BL, as well as the "grown up" focus on solid performance and ergonomics is what appeal to me. My S4's specs already seem to be more then I need, and if the Moto X can be as snappy or more then my S4 while giving me an up to date phone for the next year and a half I will be content. (Should be out of school and making decent money by then?)
Why not s4?
I feel like the S4 has more flash then I can appreciate, while being slightly uncomfortable, having annoyingly poor build quality and a fairly bleak future for the modding community... And that at least for now I could move to a moto X for the cost of a new contract phone, but with out contract and with an unlocked bootloader to boot.
Not sure on this one though, and a little worried about being happy still with a Moto X a year from now... So trying to get a wide variety of opinions on this.

What carrier? If Vzw go for a Maxx it is already a x + 1/2! Lol.

aviwdoowks said:
What carrier? If Vzw go for a Maxx it is already a x + 1/2! Lol.
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It is VZ, but I thought the Maxx was no longer available as a dev edition?
If I didn't make it clear enough, the majority of the reason I am getting rid of the S4 is jumping through hoops with updates, and wanting a device that is guaranteed unlocked on Verizon.

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It is VZ, but I thought the Maxx was no longer available as a dev edition?
If I didn't make it clear enough, the majority of the reason I am getting rid of the S4 is jumping through hoops with updates, and wanting a device that is guaranteed unlocked on Verizon.
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Really. I did not know that.

I just got Dev edition, moto web sight $324. I also have S 4, I bought the x for better reception, so far been really good.
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roze658 said:
I just got Dev edition, moto web sight $324. I also have S 4, I bought the x for better reception, so far been really good.
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yeah it looks like I just missed the $324 but I am going to call up and talk with customer service to see what they can do. Just waiting to hear back about the moto playment plan.
Can you talk more about the differences in your experience with each device? Just kind of general which one you like more and how the moto has been... I like what I hear about reception, seems like mine is never quite good enough.

I pretty much use the phone like you, I like my S 4 mdk for battery life and tweeks with custom kernel, but Samsung radio's have poor reception. I've owned Motorola phones in the past reception has always been good with moto. This is why I purchased.
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I feel the X screen is too dim/variable compared to the Maxx. Root is not necessary on the Maxx, to me, anyway.
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Signal is great on any Moto.

I love my VZW X DE. Had a non-DE maxx, sold it cause i lost root after taking 4.4
Performance and battery life are awesome. Im sure this device will please me for at least the next year, or until i have enough spare cash to justify an upgrade

One thing to note, is that if the O.P. browses through the development forums for the Moto X, there are not very many ROM's. If you love to flash something new every few days, then you might be disappointed.
However, the reason that there aren't very many ROM's is because the stock experience is so good - for the things you listed - active display, Moto Assist, etc. that don't work in AOSP based Rom's. A stock, debloated ROM with xposed is really all that is needed to have a fantastic device!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Moto X dev editions get cheap again after the Sept 4th press conference, or at the very least, I expect Swappa/Ebay to have several after that date Maybe even mine

I just switched from an S4 to a Moto X developer and I am very pleased. I took advantage of the $324 sale they had on the Moto X developer edition.
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Verizon Moto X or Droid MAXX!?

Planning to get either phone. Also considering Galaxy S4 + HTC One. Time is not of essence, good phone is. I want performance, megapixels (Camera) and long battery life. Right now edge is Droid MAXX. Interestingly I don't see a forum for the new Droid MAXX/Ultra on VZW which is already released. Also the phone MUST be globally capable as I travel and like to use AT&T/T-mobile SIM's from time to time.
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Planning to get either phone. Also considering Galaxy S4 + HTC One. Time is not of essence, good phone is. I want performance, megapixels (Camera) and long battery life. Right now edge is Droid MAXX. Interestingly I don't see a forum for the new Droid MAXX/Ultra on VZW which is already released. Also the phone MUST be globally capable as I travel and like to use AT&T/T-mobile SIM's from time to time.
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I'm in the same boat. Really want the battery life of the maxx and wireless charging ability. In fact really for me the only downfall of the maxx is the capacitive buttons. I really like the soft on screen buttons. Don't know if that will bug the heck out of me or not. I think I will at least play with both and make my final decision.
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If you want Development, there is going to be a lot more people getting the Moto X since it's on all of the major US carriers. Just be sure to get a Developer Edition
Add me to the list of the undecided. I still have the Galaxy S4 on my short list. Im leaning towards the Maxx for the aforementioned reasons.
The development issue has me balking at the Maxx though. That and some of the issues reported with last years Droid Razr Maxx HD. I know this SOC is different, but some of the sluggishness reported on the Razr Maxx after using them for a while has be wondering if i shouldnt wait a month or so.
Was an early adopter of the Droid X and its been my only phone for over 3 years. Still going for now running VXLR 2.2.0, but im seriously overdue for a new phone. I tend to hang onto phones for at least 2 years or more, so i want something i can ROM when and if it starts bogging down or i just want better features.
At the bare minimum id like to get root access on the Maxx. I guess its still a little too soon to know if that will happen. Anyone have any thoughts or a best guess on whether root will be achievable on the Maxx?
I'm completely in the same boat. My renewal just came up. The X seems like a good phone, but it seems very similar to the Maxx and I would love to have the Maxx's battery life. The X/Maxx/etc have virtually the same specs. All of them have the same screen type that I dislike, I prefer the soft buttons so Maxx/Ultra are one down for that, no sd card (minor as I have a nexus right now), non-removable battery (minor but annoying).
I do love the HTC one, similar issues, I like the screen better & love the speakers in the front, because well its nice they are directed AT me, but the camera is weak and HTC hasn't been know for its quality in the last several phones it released.
The S4 is a possibility, my co-worker has it and loves it. The note 3 is coming out soon but that phone is massive! lol
What to do, what to do. If I had any choice I would really love another nexus, but alas that ship has long sailed and is most likely never coming back.
The two major differences comes down to screen size and battery life. Maxx has a slightly larger screen size and double the quoted battery life for mixed use. Personally, screen sizes are getting out of control so MotoX is an easy pick.
From what i read and experienced
Battery life:
MAXX > S4 > Moto X > One
Design:
One > Moto X > S4/MAXX
Screen:
One/S4 > Moto X > MAXX
Storage:
S4 > One > MAXX > Moto X
Camera:
S4 > One > MAXX/Moto X
JaeKay said:
From what i read and experienced
Battery life:
MAXX > S4 > Moto X > One
Design:
One > Moto X > S4/MAXX
Screen:
One/S4 > Moto X > MAXX
Storage:
S4 > One > MAXX > Moto X
Camera:
S4 > One > MAXX/Moto X
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I disagree with the battery life that S4 is better than MotoX. Yes, the S4 has a 400mAh larger battery, but that is offset by the larger screen and higher resolution that requires more juice. The MotoX mainly comes short in 3G talk time. But let's face it, most people don't really spend a lot of time talking on their phones. We mainly use it for non-talk stuff (email, texting, music, video, etc), which is where the MotoX excels. Life all battery life tests, none of them matter because it depends on actual user.
Also the HTC One and MotoX should be tied for design as they both worthy for different reasons. Aluminum body on the HTC One is pretty sleek, while the motomaker and build quality on the MotoX makes plastic look expensive.
True. If it's not the MAXX, battery life is all pretty much the same. As for the the design, i agree with you, but i also took into consideration the speaker design, I.E. the front facing goodness
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No regrets with getting the maxx as long as signal with Verizon is good enough for me indoors where it matters (work) in happy with the switch. Went from 49% to 25% first day initial charge with 2hrs screen on time.
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Apparently the OS takes up 6.5GB. I'm going to go with the Maxx, I want more than 9.5GB for all my stuff on stock. But God, I hope this thing gets unlocked
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Was waiting for the X this hole time. I went and took a look at the MAXX yesterday and went ahead and picked it up. Awesome device!!!!
Feels really solid. Great battery. External speaker is kick butt for a small speaker. Like the 5" screen.
Why is there not a Droid Maxx forum yet?
Someone else recently brought this up - why isn't there a Verizon Droid Maxx Forum yet? I see today they put a Verizon HTC One forum in, and that's not even out yet?!
I'm planning on going with the Maxx for battery life. If this had soft keys I'd be 150% sure, but right now am about 90%.
Yeah it's a little odd there is no section yet... Unless they are tying it in this one because the four phones are practically the same but that would be weird and you'd think they would state that.
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On Maxx now. Battery is amazing. Love the design and weight. Screen is great. Moto X almost had me sold the "design it yourself aspect", but wasn't enough for me.
Hope this gets enough love for root. But loving it so far.
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I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.
If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
Maxx looked nice in store, but trying to decide if I should wait for moto X unlocked.
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I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.
If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
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Hmmm... I wish I could slap my work att sim in a maxx to try it.
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How do you get Verizon to sell it to you if you don't have a Verizon account? I might want to pick up a mini to try on att.
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I am surprised there is no conversation on the LG G2 coming. I am ready to part with the DNA due to battery and wanting the latest. Tempted by the Maxx but I had the earlier version and Moto is just boring. Then I get stuck flashing and ignoring my wife. :laugh: The Maxx is heavy compared to the S4 or LG by 20%. Had the S4 and took it back since I wasn't in love with all the gimmicky stuff and it was just okay. Think Sense is better. Today I just decided to wait for the LG with the larger battery and slightly larger screen. Still tempted to go toy with the Maxx since no one does battery better.
plmiller0905 said:
I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.
If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
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Isnt ultra a CDMA phone? How would it work with AT&T?
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[Q] Thinking about getting Moto X

I currently have a Nexus 5 and compared to a friends Moto X my screen isn't nearly as nice and the speaker is horrendous. I'm thinking about reactivating my Verizon unlimited data account and using a developer edition Moto X on it but I have some questions.
1. Who updates the Dev. Edition Moto X, Verizon or Motorola?
2. Will my Google Wallet app work like it does now with my Nexus 5 and allow NFC purchases at "Tap to Pay" stores or does verizon block that even on dev phones?
3. A bit off forum but if I use Google Voice texting, can I delete my $30 texting package on Verizon? I heard GV texting uses data only.
Thanks guys n gals!
1. Verizon
2. Yes, works on non-dev phones too
3. Sure, why not?
If you don't install custom roms, don't mind the slightly lower quality camera, and willing to sacrifice some performance especially in 3D gaming, then the Moto X may work for you. I think if you get the Moto X be intended to use stock firmware because it isn't as flexible as Nexus. The Moto X will have better battery life than the Nexus, I usually get 5 hours screen on time.
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While I continue to say that my, wife's now, Moto x is the superior phone overall....especially for those that just want a great working phone....and aren't flashaholics......I must say, I was fearful of the battery life drop switching to the N5....but after some usual tweaking.....I'm allllllmost matching my Moto x battery times. 26 hour average with 6 hour screen time. I was surprised for sure after things I read.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
I traded my N5 for a Moto X.
I like the AMOLED of the X more, the speaker and even the vibration. Touchless controls is nice, but the real killer feature is ActiveNotificatons. It's more than fast enough.
I recommend a trade
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1. Verizon
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Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!
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Sorry that killed it right there. Thanks for the replies!
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Actually Verizon was quick to release the 4.4.2 update right after T-Mobile so that was quick. On the other hand we on at&t are still waiting on the 4.4.2 update with some people that got invites for soak tests but yet to receive them yet.
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Recommend moto x still?

I have 2 Nexus 5's and I sold one and have $ to buy another phone I'm looking @ the Moto x and it looks cool (bamboo wood edition)
I'm wondering what model number should I purchase for T-Mobile and for their LTE and HSPA+ also does the Moto X support all T-Mobile bands?
Secondly who provides the updates to the Moto X, I see so many versions such as America Movil or whatever.. all confusing me does the updates go through the carrier or straight to device like a Nexus?
Third hows the battery life on this thing, I'm talking about screen on time and real world usage!
markdapimp said:
I have 2 Nexus 5's and I sold one and have $ to buy another phone I'm looking @ the Moto x and it looks cool (bamboo wood edition)
I'm wondering what model number should I purchase for T-Mobile and for their LTE and HSPA+ also does the Moto X support all T-Mobile bands?
Secondly who provides the updates to the Moto X, I see so many versions such as America Movil or whatever.. all confusing me does the updates go through the carrier or straight to device like a Nexus?
Third hows the battery life on this thing, I'm talking about screen on time and real world usage!
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i just picked up a 32gb developers edition for $250 2 hours ago. I love it. I still have the white nexus 5. I never felt a connection with the nexus 5, its just like a flat brick, this feels much more like the nexus 4, and s. Solid in your hands and ****. I recommend it, but as for the roming portion, I dont know yet, thats what im worried about because the development looks weak as hell in here.
Any recommended roms?
I don't think there is a lot of development for the Moto X because you pretty much already have a stock Android experience with a couple of added benefits that aren't just gimmicks. No bloatware either. Only reason most people root this phone is to install Unicon and Xposed in order to change icons and make visual tweaks without the need for third party launchers or roms.
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Once Motorola stops giving updates, development will increase.
Necessity is the mother of inventions. There is no need for roms at the moment as it is an awesome phone out of the box.
I had similar exp with my previous phone .
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All of above applies only if you have non-AT&T Moto X. If you buy an AT&T Moto X, you will be laughed at. Don't fall for a phone with locked bootloader, never. HTC's fortune started to fall when they put out phones that were unfriendly to developers and hackers. Samsung has started down the slippery slope as well and they will begin to suffer as a consquence. Moto X was a great phone but their myopic decision to cripple the phone with unlockable bootloader for the largest US carrier (ATT) consigned it to the dust bin, it seems.
I'd suggest buying a GSM Developer Edition so you keep your warranty intact after unlocking. This phone with Xposed Gravity Box installed has ended my 4 Year obsession to flash roms entirely. Gravity Box can do almost anything a Rom can do, I even went back to stock on my Nexus 7 with this module and couldn't be happier. Not thinking about the latest Rom or waiting for a new build to try and then have to wipe and setup my phone/tablet again is a blessing.
This is the first phone I've had that I've ever run stock. I'm thinking of unlocking it, just to install xposed, but that's really it.
Even my three Google Experience devices (Nexus One, Nexus S, and Xoom) were all rooted within a day or two of owning them. This phone is just really nice as-is.
-Jim
ill echo what everybody else said. The Moto X is the first Android phone that i have zero desire to install a different ROM. with just root and Xposed, the phone gives me everything i need without forcing me to give up the great features like Touchless Control, Active Display etc...
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All of above applies only if you have non-AT&T Moto X. If you buy an AT&T Moto X, you will be laughed at. Don't fall for a phone with locked bootloader, never. HTC's fortune started to fall when they put out phones that were unfriendly to developers and hackers. Samsung has started down the slippery slope as well and they will begin to suffer as a consquence. Moto X was a great phone but their myopic decision to cripple the phone with unlockable bootloader for the largest US carrier (ATT) consigned it to the dust bin, it seems.
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Samsung has a wider range of customers now that android has developed. It is the iPhones competition and people who are tired of iPhones and iOS look at that competition with on sheet greater specs, camera and a wide array of commercials going against the iPhone people are leaning towards the gs5 vs any other android device. The gs5 has outsold the iPhone 5s in the first weekend of its release. I'm not a Samsung fanboy nor apple fanboy, I've used both ecosystems before I loved iOS but now that android has developed I wouldn't think about going back to iOS unless there's specs and other enticing options to draw me back. I have a macbook air, but I have the moto x and let me get on topic with this one. The moto x is a really great device but I think the op should wait for the successor of the moto x or wait for the "last" nexus device. There's more great devices coming out later on this year and I think he should hold off.
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[q] nexus 4 or moto x

hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
KJ said:
If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
KJ said:
The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
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hahaha yeah i think i'd swap then! and nooo hes not really bothered which he has, he likes the nexus- if anything he thinks the nexus is better//the same.. not gonna decline the offer though am i "1 2 3 no swap back" hahaha
A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
idonttakedrugs said:
hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You are obviously right.
I did throw the N5 name in there tho. ?
Why Nexus 4? Why you picked that? Where I live Nexus 5 and X are of almost same price (N5 being slightly higher), and in UK the price is almost same if I am not wrong, unless you are in a contract. N4 is quite outdated, old.
Moto X definitely. Chose it over Nexus 5. The reasons have been said already, a lot of times, still repeating, Active display, AMOLED, Ergonomics and Size, Call quality, Speaker phone quality, and of course the performance. While with Nexus you will get the fastest Android out there at the moment because of better hardware, and a bigger display with more resolution, but it's IPS, so it's dull, call quality can never match X's, everyone knows how the speaker is on the N5, no active display, if that matters to you, and last but not the least an extremely fragile device.
If there were a phone at X's size, with S5's display, Z2/1020's camera and G3's hardware then I would probably let myself switch off from browsing mobile related websites for six months.
So I have a moto x right now and just loved the active display function. Very good battery life and smoother. Just my opinion.
I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
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okay, sounds good!! thanks
Wutang200 said:
I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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thank you! im about to go to the shop now
I wouldn't say the X is better than the N5, just bought a N5 after having my moto x for almost a year, the major difference is development for N5 kicks azz while the moto x development just sucks. Both phones have there advantages and disadvantages, yes moto did a good job on the firmware side but for those who run custom Roms and the such the N5 rocks. Sorry moto ,nexus devices are always going to be in my pocket from this day forward
Moto X to a Nexus 5

[Q] Moto X or Droid Turbo

Hey all,
So I'm due for a phone. Currently using the HTC DNA on Verizon.
I was all about the Moto X(2014) until I heard about the Droid Turbo, which looks pretty sweet.
These are my concerns:
Moto X will probably have a larger Dev community, as the turbo is a Verizon exclusive.
The Turbo will probably have a lot more bloat than the Moto X.
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
Does the higher resolution screen, extra gig of ram and faster processor worth it?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks
rjd584 said:
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
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There will be no difference on bloat. The turbo may have extra droid stuff (like circle widgets and that zap thing) but moto X on vzw still comes with vzw bloat (this is based on my 2013 X having vzw bloat)
The new X has 8 Verizon apps. I have disabled 5 of them. Verizon Voicemail can not be disabled. I use the hotspot app and the Verizon mobile app to check data usage.
I'd add another phone into the mix, supposed rumors detail the Nexus 6 is coming to Verizon.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/10/02/verizon-nexus-6
rjd584 said:
Hey all,
So I'm due for a phone. Currently using the HTC DNA on Verizon.
I was all about the Moto X(2014) until I heard about the Droid Turbo, which looks pretty sweet.
These are my concerns:
Moto X will probably have a larger Dev community, as the turbo is a Verizon exclusive.
The Turbo will probably have a lot more bloat than the Moto X.
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
Does the higher resolution screen, extra gig of ram and faster processor worth it?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks
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If you are sticking with Verizon, then the Droid. better specs, better screen, better battery. But going back to carrier lock and carrier bloat is not something I am willing to do after leaving Sprint last year. I'll be activating an X or Nexus on either T-mo or Cricket soon. Can always walk away if I'm not happy.
I bet the screen brightness will push many to the Turbo. More juice to allow a brighter display. So it was with the X/Maxx dilemma.
FYI: The manual for the Turbo leaked.
http://gizmodo.com/leaked-droid-turbo-manual-shows-a-super-powered-motorol-1644058683
I went with the X because I don't like the droid branding or the fact that it has capacitive navigation buttons, like the galaxy phones still cling to.
The one benefit of capacitive is that they can't burn in at least. I got the new moto x and love it. Might still get the Note 4 instead though. I'd rather have a 16 mp camera on Samsung then a 21 with bad software. That's the only ring Motorola can't get to be great. Camera software.
Ah man, I'm on day 13 of moto x 2014 and now news of droid turbo leaks. Better battery, hopefully more storage and same software features. Thinking about returning moto x to wait for turbo.
Turbo has good specs, but looks like moto went back in time 5 years in the design department
svtfmook said:
Turbo has good specs, but looks like moto went back in time 5 years in the design department
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Yeah, but I'll take specs over looks as long as it still feels good in the hand/pocket.
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Function over form:
Returning my moto x. I love it, but the entire package is way better on the turbo. It seems exactly like a 5 inch version of the nexus 6. I even set up an exchange for a different moto x yesterday and I contact moto today to get my money back.
Droid life is reporting that the battery code listed on the Turbo benchmark sheet relates to a 3,900mAh battery spotted in China.
Not too shabby.
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I ended up returning my moto x, hopefully these droid turbo rumors prove to be true.
Yeah, function over form, but who can feel performance difference over any flagship device out this month? I have an iPhone 6, moto x, M8 and they all perform the same. The only draw back I have is the camera on the x sucks, like really really bad and no good cases for the x. Otherwise, I like the near pure android experience of the x over sense and iOS. And the x just looks so much better than the other 2
The only reasoning I have to keep my moto x is that it's the pure edition so it will most certainly get updates quicker than the droid and it's rocking and unlocked bootloader
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The only reasoning I have to keep my moto x is that it's the pure edition so it will most certainly get updates quicker than the droid and it's rocking and unlocked bootloader
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Yes, the Turbo ill most assuredly have a locked bootloader, be almost impossible to Root, and probably never see anything past Android L.
But dear god, those specs.
Coronado is dead said:
Yes, the Turbo ill most assuredly have a locked bootloader, be almost impossible to Root, and probably never see anything past Android L.
But dear god, those specs.
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I'm just hoping that att version that went through the FCC is legit.
hopesrequiem said:
The one benefit of capacitive is that they can't burn in at least. I got the new moto x and love it. Might still get the Note 4 instead though. I'd rather have a 16 mp camera on Samsung then a 21 with bad software. That's the only ring Motorola can't get to be great. Camera software.
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Burn in? Lol. These aren't plasma TV screens.

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