How does magnetic charging work? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have never used anything but USB charging, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to wear out the flap/door over the USB port.
Does this use a pad? It looks like there's a recess in the side of the phone. Does the charging connector just snuggle up to that?
I'm assuming I could buy a charger from T-Mobile or Sony. Or maybe the connector for this is some kind of industry standard?

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Apparently there's a load of really crap ones out there. I'd advise you to either go for the Sony Dock (Sony Xperia Z3/Z3 Compact DK48 Magnetic Charging Dock)
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3z3-compact-dk48-magnetic-charging-dock
Or there's a highly regarded charger tip that fits onto the end of your USB lead. See it here: http://www.clove.co.uk/microusb-to-magnetic-connector-adapter
You won't go far wrong with either of those, anything else might not be as good as you would have hoped for.

I purchased this magnetic charging cable on ebay from seller myhkstar.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201073400856
It appears to be genuine; it's well constructed and has a very strong magnet.
Ordered on the 8th, shipped on the 10th from HK, received on the 18th.

Nice one, I was always led to believe if you wanted a proper Sony one you had to buy their whole dock, so I don't know if its genuine or not, although the packaging looked good so maybe it is.

cschmitt said:
I purchased this magnetic charging cable on ebay from seller myhkstar.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201073400856
It appears to be genuine; it's well constructed and has a very strong magnet.
Ordered on the 8th, shipped on the 10th from HK, received on the 18th.
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I also ordered 3 of (what appears to be) the same cable from the dx-box.com website and find they are of good quality.
I initially ordered one, liked it and then ordered 2 more - home, work and car!
PS I am using mine with Z1 compact...

Is the magnetic charger cables are all same for z1,z2,z1c and z3c. Wanna buy cable so the flqps wont be loose coz it needs to open every charge.
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Yes, they're all the same.

Iruwen said:
Yes, they're all the same.
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Thanks .. Didnt knw before :thumbup:
Xperia Z3 Compact "Green"

cschmitt said:
I purchased this magnetic charging cable on ebay from seller myhkstar.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201073400856
It appears to be genuine; it's well constructed and has a very strong magnet.
Ordered on the 8th, shipped on the 10th from HK, received on the 18th.
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what about the charging time? is it same as using microusb?

sravanz said:
what about the charging time? is it same as using microusb?
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Don't know, I only use the magnetic connection. Seems fast enough.

You put the thing on the thing and let it flow yo.

techguyone said:
Apparently there's a load of really crap ones out there. I'd advise you to either go for the Sony Dock (Sony Xperia Z3/Z3 Compact DK48 Magnetic Charging Dock)
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3z3-compact-dk48-magnetic-charging-dock
Or there's a highly regarded charger tip that fits onto the end of your USB lead. See it here: http://www.clove.co.uk/microusb-to-magnetic-connector-adapter
You won't go far wrong with either of those, anything else might not be as good as you would have hoped for.
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btw, i had the Sony Dock for the Z1 and my Z3Compact fits into it just fine when i use the 2nd/alternative insert they included. saved me from having to buy a new one
that model was the DK31. I just used the dock adapter for the Z1 w/case and my Z3C fits like a charm (without a case on it of course)

Yes it might be worth while seeing which of the older docks are available, they may be cheaper than the most newest and as the older phones tend to be a bit thicker its possible that your new phone with a case on will fit on an older dock ok (my DK48 had to have all the inserts removed and a small piece of foam padding in to allow it to be used with a cased phone)

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But that does not answer the question... Does this allow charging without opening any flaps on the waterproof devices \ allow us to keep the device constantly sealed to avoid potential water issues from the flap breaking from constant use?
Let me rephrase, is this magnetic like the mac-book cables (so a normal port but instead of a clip uses magnets), or is this an induction or pogo-pin setup that uses magnets to hold in place because it is just a surface contact that is waterproof?
Thanks

It's waterproof just like the headphone jack and it's simple contacts, no induction. So it's not "magnetic charging", it's just a proprietary connector held in place by a magnet. It's originally simply meant to place the device on the dock, Sony never sold a cable or adapter on its own.

julienrl said:
But that does not answer the question... Does this allow charging without opening any flaps on the waterproof devices \ allow us to keep the device constantly sealed to avoid potential water issues from the flap breaking from constant use?
Let me rephrase, is this magnetic like the mac-book cables (so a normal port but instead of a clip uses magnets), or is this an induction or pogo-pin setup that uses magnets to hold in place because it is just a surface contact that is waterproof?
Thanks
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Yes. it does supports charging without opening any flaps on the waterproof devices. Only this connector have only power connector and no data

Yeah - seems like the magnet just holds the plug flush against the devices connector pins, as the plug doesn't physically 'snap in'.
While its useful not having remove the flap/loosen it over time, i'm not a big fan. When im about to sleep and there isnt alot of light, i find the cable very hard to place correctly. It only connects one way and you have to be pretty precise to get both pins to line up. Granted this is with aftermarket cables (3 different companies) and a ringake case.
I wish it was more like the MS surface tablet plug, where the magnet lines up the connector and causes it to 'snap in' very easily. Obviously I dont know if waterproof limitations make this connector type impossible.

toshin9 said:
Yeah - seems like the magnet just holds the plug flush against the devices connector pins, as the plug doesn't physically 'snap in'.
While its useful not having remove the flap/loosen it over time, i'm not a big fan. When im about to sleep and there isnt alot of light, i find the cable very hard to place correctly. It only connects one way and you have to be pretty precise to get both pins to line up. Granted this is with aftermarket cables (3 different companies) and a ringake case.
I wish it was more like the MS surface tablet plug, where the magnet lines up the connector and causes it to 'snap in' very easily. Obviously I dont know if waterproof limitations make this connector type impossible.
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I found the magnector X202 to snap in very easily. it has a strong magnet and its asymmetrical construction prevents putting it on the wrong way around, preventing any possible short circuits. i can put it on blindly. i also had a second magnetic charger which i send back exactly because of the issues that you are describing. the alignement was just too much of a hassle. only problem is it is quite big and may not clear all the cases. though they released newer versions which
are not cables but adapters, which may work better with the clearance of the case (x203 version 2 i think just got available).
If your case allows this cable i would really consider buying it, its a bit on the more expensive site but its high quality and saves you a lot of fumbling around. also it is only 1m long but just buy an usb extension cable then your good for everything.

Supposedly Sony is going to do away with magnetic charging in the Z4 and use a waterproof micro-USB, which would be very welcome (fewer proprietary accessories and one less hole in cases). Until then, I use a mag cable with my Z3c and have tried a few of the Ebay cheapies. They work, but do not stay on very well despite having fairly strong magnets (they're not stable laterally) and can be fiddly to line up when connecting so I only use them at my desk or other places where the phone will just sit on a flat surface relatively undisturbed while charging. In the car I use a Magnector X2 cable, which is better designed with contours that match the side of the phone, making it far more stable and easy to snap on. But the Magnector cable is $18, which is silly money for a charging cable and why I can't wait for Sony to do away with the whole magnetic thing altogether.

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HD2 LEO back side pins[Q]

At first I would like to apologize if this topic already is somewhere there. I didn't know how to call thouse pins so I didn't know what to serach for.
When I look at the back side of Leo I can see three unused pins. I remember HTC Himalaya, where thouse pins were for extension pack with VGA OUT, CF slot and next battery.
Review of the cover
Does anyone know what are thouse pins for? CF slot is death but VGA OUT is usefull. Older QC generation was able to VGA OUT so why Snapdragon wouldn't?
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+1...
DN41
Problem solved
They are in use with original car holder
i guessed s.th. like that
thanks mate =)
DN41
Cannot believe that/
Sir Andrew CZ said:
Problem solved
They are in use with original car holder
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So one has to remove the battery cover in order to put the HD2 in the car holder?
Sorry, but this I do not believe it, I have never seen such car holders that demanded removing crucial/standard parts in order for the device to be able to function.... (Apart from a small rubber (dust)cover....)
Please document your findings with a link.
Personally I believe this is more for service/mantenance/diagnosing a broken device by tech support.
Wilco said:
So one has to remove the battery cover in order to put the HD2 in the car holder?
Sorry, but this I do not believe it, I have never seen such car holders that demanded removing crucial/standard parts in order for the device to be able to function.... (Apart from a small rubber (dust)cover....)
Please document your findings with a link.
Personally I believe this is more for service/mantenance/diagnosing a broken device by tech support.
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believe it, bub. As retarded as it is, HTC has made it that way with the HD2. The car holder will activate the Navpanel (via the 3 pins in the back) while charging the phone at the same time.
lude219 said:
believe it, bub. As retarded as it is, HTC has made it that way with the HD2. The car holder will activate the Navpanel (via the 3 pins in the back) while charging the phone at the same time.
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So in order to use the car adapter one should everytime remove the battery cover?
That's really retarded : where to leave it while driving? in your pocket is not to comfortable
They should mention that in the specs before one pays around $90 for that piece of cr*p
Bought mine at Dealextreme for under $10, works perfectly, only need car charger....
Wilco said:
So in order to use the car adapter one should everytime remove the battery cover?
That's really retarded : where to leave it while driving? in your pocket is not to comfortable
They should mention that in the specs before one pays around $90 for that piece of cr*p
Bought mine at Dealextreme for under $10, works perfectly, only need car charger....
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CAR HOLDER. Not car adapter. HTC made a car holder for the HD2. It has a suction cup stuck to the front windshield. The car holder is there to activate the Navpanel for using GPS program.
Wilco said:
So in order to use the car adapter one should everytime remove the battery cover?
That's really retarded : where to leave it while driving? in your pocket is not to comfortable
They should mention that in the specs before one pays around $90 for that piece of cr*p
Bought mine at Dealextreme for under $10, works perfectly, only need car charger....
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The car holder was to ship with a new battery cover which connected to those pins.
Search google for "Official HD2 car holder" then you can see pictures of it, it was actually
a very nice design, not retarded in any way.
Replacement back cover is not so bad
But I still don't know WHY buy expensive original holder with this "speciality" when I can buy 3 dollar holder on eBay with normal attachment...
These pins were for the original HTC car holder which never came to market. Therefore it was necessary to replace the rear cover permanently and stick with it at the car holder.
The now available HTC car holder is using a hughe plastic thing and the HD2 gets connected via Mini USB.
Neverteless, it would be very interest how these pins are usable for personal mods and so on. does anyone knows which functions they provide or how they can be used?
sorry to dig up a massively old subject, but I figured I would jump on the end of this instead of a whole new thread, now that this thread established what the subject matter is.
I want to put an induction coil in my phone (using a plastic back-plate obviously) and I'm wondering if I could feed power into these pins, obviously they were meant for charging so they should accept charge from other things, does anyone know the polarity of the metal tabs so I don't fry my hd2 with trial and error?
davidcampbell, did you try it? Cause i wanna use that two pins for charging and don`t know polarity too...
Seems like i have an answer. We need a block with 3 pins behind a battery cover, where left is minus and right is plus.
FunFrog said:
Seems like i have an answer. We need a block with 3 pins behind a battery cover, where left is minus and right is plus.
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Is this confirmed? Have you tried connecting power to the leads? Ive been contemplating turning the phone into a din-mounted stereo when I switch carriers and would like something better than microusb for power.
When powering these leads, can you remove the battery and still run the device? Unlike the microusb...
I,m also intrested in connecting cheap china wireles charging coil to those pins. Also I found out that they are used by Powermat Wireles Charging System for HTC HD2. Here you can see a picture showing this plug. So it seems that pin 1 and 3 is used for charging. But not shure about polarity.
pa0l080 said:
I,m also intrested in connecting cheap china wireles charging coil to those pins. Also I found out that they are used by Powermat Wireles Charging System for HTC HD2. Here you can see a picture showing this plug. So it seems that pin 1 and 3 is used for charging. But not shure about polarity.
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With battery door removed & looking into the back with the 3 pins in the bottom left the left most pin is +5v & right most pin is ground ...
I beg your pardon!
Prompt. There were official comments of the existence of this car holder (uses charge pins) from the HTC company?
Sorry for my language (google translate).

Qi Wireless Charger Receiver/Plate

I wish someone would come up with something like this that would make the Xperia Z Qi compatible...
So far they have it for the S3 and Note 2.
Just slot it in behind your battery and you are set for Qi wireless charging...
For us, it would have to be hidden behind in an external case though...
If only someone could come up with something like that for the Xperia Z, utilizing the dock connector ports and we can have wireless charging too!
The problem with the current Sony dock is that it is too tight fitting for most cases.
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The best they have currently is the qi flip case
Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk 2
If you go in mobile fun you should be able to find one, sorry I can't post links yet!
I plan on getting one some point as I've got a leather flip which is basically identical anyway!
added the link here
and direct link here
to Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z
here's the official product pages according to the wireless power consortium
http://www.ascendeo.net/open/store/control/productDetails?productId=MUWIR0003
http://www.ascendeo.net/open/store/control/productDetails?productId=SEWIR0002
http://www.ascendeo.net/mcaccessmobile/images/products/pdf/Solution de charge sans fil, Xperia Z.pdf
No where does it say how much power they put out, most of the Qi coils seem to be about 600ma which is a bit slow
wpc pages
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products/details/219/qi-compact-pad
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium....0/sleeve-qi-made-for-xperia-for-sony-xperia-z
mouser have Wurth branded Qi coils with connectors (need to wire up tabs to the pogo I guess) that you could mount inside any other case.
http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...GAEpiMZZMsg%2by3WlYCkU5p0SDCJysEwHW5Dy0fLJEQ=
at 12Euro they are a fair bit cheaper than the muvit case option..
I presume you can get a Qi base pad cheaper.
Thread on Cheaper Qi Chargers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
maybe a better link http://uk.mouser.com/new/wurth/WE-WPC-Coils/
http://www.mouser.com/QiTech/ << the TDK ones look better design
For those who are interested in Qi wireless charging for the Sony Xperia Z, attached is my review of it.
It is based on the Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for the Sony Xperia Z, sold by MobileFun.
http://youtu.be/ElFJzbsiiOQ
Hope this helps...
chesterchen said:
For those who are interested in Qi wireless charging for the Sony Xperia Z, attached is my review of it.
It is based on the Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for the Sony Xperia Z, sold by MobileFun.
http://youtu.be/ElFJzbsiiOQ
Hope this helps...
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so, isn't there any Qi charger without case? I mean, I'd like to have my own one... never liked cases with covers and sh*t
I will check the polarity of both Xperia Z and Note 2 charging pins tonight when I get home. The spacing on both sets of pins is very close, if polarity is not switched around this means you should be able to use a Note 2 Qi pad under a case of your choice, provided you take some of the bulk off the contacts on the Qi pad itself.
Do NOT attempt to hook one up (if you have one), without checking the polarity first. You may short your phone and kill it.
fards said:
here's the official product pages according to the wireless power consortium
http://www.ascendeo.net/open/store/control/productDetails?productId=MUWIR0003
http://www.ascendeo.net/open/store/control/productDetails?productId=SEWIR0002
http://www.ascendeo.net/mcaccessmobile/images/products/pdf/Solution de charge sans fil, Xperia Z.pdf
No where does it say how much power they put out, most of the Qi coils seem to be about 600ma which is a bit slow
wpc pages
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products/details/219/qi-compact-pad
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium....0/sleeve-qi-made-for-xperia-for-sony-xperia-z
mouser have Wurth branded Qi coils with connectors (need to wire up tabs to the pogo I guess) that you could mount inside any other case.
http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...GAEpiMZZMsg%2by3WlYCkU5p0SDCJysEwHW5Dy0fLJEQ=
at 12Euro they are a fair bit cheaper than the muvit case option..
I presume you can get a Qi base pad cheaper.
Thread on Cheaper Qi Chargers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
maybe a better link http://uk.mouser.com/new/wurth/WE-WPC-Coils/
http://www.mouser.com/QiTech/ << the TDK ones look better design
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Looking at that Wurth transmitter, I see a coil, with two leads coming off of that. My DIY electronics knowledge tells me that's positive and negative. However: for that coil to work, does one have to have a control circuit of some sort? Because, I mean, if I can modify a MicroUSB cable to plug directly into that (the two leads), I'll wire these things up everywhere...
SparkyXI said:
Looking at that Wurth transmitter, I see a coil, with two leads coming off of that. My DIY electronics knowledge tells me that's positive and negative. However: for that coil to work, does one have to have a control circuit of some sort? Because, I mean, if I can modify a MicroUSB cable to plug directly into that (the two leads), I'll wire these things up everywhere...
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responded to the pm.. in short.
dont think so..
http://uk.mouser.com/new/wurth/WE-WPC-Coils/
http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...hhEDZ8Vsg/rfrKC8s/fLPoDy5m3XWcvbuh6JhjwZlcg== << recommended
Just want to share.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39829800&postcount=74
I have done with existing Qi transmitter and receiver.
juzz86 said:
I will check the polarity of both Xperia Z and Note 2 charging pins tonight when I get home. The spacing on both sets of pins is very close, if polarity is not switched around this means you should be able to use a Note 2 Qi pad under a case of your choice, provided you take some of the bulk off the contacts on the Qi pad itself.
Do NOT attempt to hook one up (if you have one), without checking the polarity first. You may short your phone and kill it.
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I've actually done this already, using a qi receiver for note 2 and it works great. I hide the receiver tag between the phone and the hard case I use.
will probably start a thread to share some photos and tips later.
Anybody heard of this wireless charging backplate replacement?
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-cover-battery-back-cover-py7pm-0270-black-nl-en.html
"The Sony Xperia Z L36h cover battery, back cover gives the damaged product a new look. This Sony Xperia Z back cover is complete with camera lens and wireless charging connector module."
argh2000 said:
Just want to share.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39829800&postcount=74
I have done with existing Qi transmitter and receiver.
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Great mod, very interested in doing this! Have you encounter any problems are doing this? And what did you use to raise the point in the wireless card?
I've managed to get my XZ charging using a Qi baseplate and a receiver for a Galaxy Note2.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131098145484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171259136644?var=470354528931&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
The receiver was a little expensive, as I thought it came with a charger plate.
I'll try and get some pics up later, but basically I've just hidden the receiver under my Casemate Tough case, and fitted the pins onto the charging dock connector on the side.
I filed down the pins so they would fit into the recess on the phone, but they aren't quite long enough to touch the brass contacts on the phone, so I've wedged a bit of stiff card down the side of the case over the pins to force them to keep touching the connector. I suppose someone who is good with a soldering iron could make the pins on the receiver longer so they touch the phone connectors when the case is on.
It's far from perfect at the moment, but as a bit of a hack and slash job, it works fine. The receiver is only rated at 500mah, which is a lot less than the Sony charger, so we'll see how quickly it can charge the phone.
Please tell me how
warface said:
I've managed to get my XZ charging using a Qi baseplate and a receiver for a Galaxy Note2.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131098145484?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171259136644?var=470354528931&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
The receiver was a little expensive, as I thought it came with a charger plate.
I'll try and get some pics up later, but basically I've just hidden the receiver under my Casemate Tough case, and fitted the pins onto the charging dock connector on the side.
I filed down the pins so they would fit into the recess on the phone, but they aren't quite long enough to touch the brass contacts on the phone, so I've wedged a bit of stiff card down the side of the case over the pins to force them to keep touching the connector. I suppose someone who is good with a soldering iron could make the pins on the receiver longer so they touch the phone connectors when the case is on.
It's far from perfect at the moment, but as a bit of a hack and slash job, it works fine. The receiver is only rated at 500mah, which is a lot less than the Sony charger, so we'll see how quickly it can charge the phone.
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Please tell me how, can I just connect the receiver card and the Xz coper charging plates on the side???? Thanks please reply [email protected] ....

External Qi Charging Coil

Has anyone tried one of these?
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-P...=UTF8&qid=1385474373&sr=8-5&keywords=lg+g2+qi
I'd be curious to hear your experience, I wonder how thick or fragile it is. I'd buy one to test but I am not in the US and would have to import it.
I ordered one a week or two ago. One of my wireless charging pads (which I didn't have any of, so I had to order a couple) arrived yesterday, but still waiting for the receiver coil. Hopefully any day now.
Edit: bah, I forgot, it's being shipped from HK; it'll be a while yet (the pads came from the US).
Klotar said:
I ordered one a week or two ago. One of my wireless charging pads (which I didn't have any of, so I had to order a couple) arrived yesterday, but still waiting for the receiver coil. Hopefully any day now.
Edit: bah, I forgot, it's being shipped from HK; it'll be a while yet (the pads came from the US).
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Awesome, I look foward to hearing your thoughts on it when you get it
They are pretty thin. I've never use one quite like that, but I used the external pads for the Note 2 that I retro fitted into my old Verizon Galaxy Nexus... and it worked extremely well.
I ended up hooking it up to the POGO pins and taping it onto the battery I had to do a little case modding to make it all fit in a normal Incipio Feather case (basically cut a back plate in half, but I had like 5 of them).
So it works really well. The problem I see here though is you are eating up the USB port all the time. With the thin profile cable, I wouldn't attempt to unplug it many times. Just leave it and forget it. Fortunately the G2 has a great battery. My Verizon G2 has this built in, and I Qi Wireless Charge every night.
The Coils are thin, but thick enough to forbid the use of a thin case like a Incipio Feather. If you use this, you are best off using a TPU case that is flexible.
player911 has nailed the situation. My plan is to 'switch over' entirely to wireless charging for the most part, and wifi file transfers -- I don't want to be unplugging/plugging the usb connector in at all. I figure one more charging pad (total 3) should do it... 1 at work, 2 at home kinda thing.
The eBay version of the amazon listing linked seems to suggest it will come with a case (the one pictured). I can't imagine why I would be asked to pick a colour otherwise black or white, when ordering. Yet both listings state "1 piece", so who knows. Will report what I end up with when it arrives. My S3 had the pogo pins so that you could use wireless or usb for charging but I never went that route at the time. The use of the usb port on the G2 did give me pause but I'm going to give it a go.
I would give it a go too. Perhaps temporarily until a internal solution pops up (bound to happen). Even if it doesn't come with a case, TPU cases are a dime a dozen.
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I just bought one of these, when I get it in over 2 weeks I'll make a review of it since no one else buying these has still.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261329370615
Interesting. I look forward to hearing how these work.
I've received my coil from ebay, and "installed" it.
It is working fine, however my battery is almost full, so I can't test now the current. I'll do it later.
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Awesome, thanks for the pics! BTW, what charging pad is it that you have there, with the green and red lights?
How thick is the coil? Do you think it is possible to fit it under the back cover? Because I'm planning to do that and run the cable through a hole I want to cut in the back cover so that I can plug it in the usb connector.
Eh that isn't too bad. Looks fine IMO. Besides you don't really need to use the USB port with the Wireless Storage option (awesome feature) and Qi Charging.
So if the port is unused, the also acts like a port saver to keep dirt and lent out.
If you feel lucky and want to further reduce thickness, you can open that package up and remove just the coil. The packaging is basically a thick plastic sticky back that is folded over. Removing the outer plastic housing will cut down 1-2mm. Inside the hard plastic cover, there is the actual coil that is in a black square sticker. The Coil itself is round. On mine, I removed the outer shell and trimmed the unused outside area around the coil. Creates a smaller footprint and gets even thinner.
My goal with my Galaxy Nexus was to fit it in a hard Incipio Feather Slim Case. As it is, any TPU case should work though.
Klotar said:
Awesome, thanks for the pics! BTW, what charging pad is it that you have there, with the green and red lights?
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yes, the cheap one from ebay.
stronkk said:
How thick is the coil? Do you think it is possible to fit it under the back cover? Because I'm planning to do that and run the cable through a hole I want to cut in the back cover so that I can plug it in the usb connector.
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it is thin, but I don't if there is enough space under the backcover, I've never removed it.
I'm still testing it, if my readings are correct it is charging the G2 with at least 400 mA.
Now I've moved it to check how much does the positioning matter.
I've charged it from 50% to 100% using this stuff, it was charging with ~450 mA
Qi is a slow charge. I use mine for my desk and nighttime charging.
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WiZARD7 said:
I've received my coil from ebay, and "installed" it.
It is working fine, however my battery is almost full, so I can't test now the current. I'll do it later.
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Soooooo, how it's working?
Bought one from an Ebay U.S. seller, hope it works.
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Soooooo, how it's working?
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fine
400-450 mA charging current.
I've ordered two different kinds, one is the same as Wizard7 that purports 500 mA output and the other purports 750 mA output. I've received neither one yet although according to tracking, the 750 mA one is finally slated for delivery today. But it has a longer cable that I'll figure out how to fold or contend with.
While I fully expected qi charging to be slower, I have to admit I hoped it would be faster than PC USB at least. It would have been a decent solution if I didn't "lose" use of the usb ports but I guess as long as it charges overnight, I can't complain.
Sooo which qi chargers do you guys recommend?
I also bought the charging coil ;D
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Samsung Wireless Fast Charger Teardown + Platinum Qualcomm 2.0 Fast Car Charger

The back story ->
I have an old Nokia Wireless Charging Car Dock and love it. SO much so that I made it work with my sammy devices using a heat gun to bend some of the plastic. Coming into the new devices and wireless standards, I wanted to keep with the same trend and update/ upgrade. Got ahold of the Samsung Wireless charger and had no reason to upgrade the nokia since the charging was the same. In comes the Samsung Wireless Fast Charger and wanting it in the truck. So, I went to work on a teardown of all my gear (again) and here is the insides for you folks. I included the Platinum 12v Car Qualcomm Fast Charger 2.0 since it is what I am using in there with it.
I have a Note5 and an S6 Edge+ so I can verify it IS faster.
I can't see, I'm blind, lol.
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HOW TO TEARDOWN -
Using a regular + screwdriver, you can move the rubber on both sides of the rubber on the bottom of the charger. There are just 2 screws there.
Once they are unscrewed, flip over the charger and turn the top part of the charger counter clockwise. It should then lift right off.
Now that the top is removed, there are 5 screws holding the middle section to the base. Remove them.
Base should now easily lift away from the middle section.
Flip over the middle section and you have an additional 5 screws to remove.
Now to fully remove the electronics from the unit. You would need a Heat Gun and a Soldering iron if you planned on keeping it in a warrantable state. Otherwise, just use a heat gun and a pair of wire cutters.
I used the heat gun to remove the coil from the frame as well as the ribbon cable LED daughter board. Then using the cutters, cut the section where the LED was out as to not have desolder the coil.
DONE.
As for the car charger, I used a knife and some pressure on the seams. "POP' in 4 places and I was done. Desoldered the 2 grounds and 1 positive. Soldered up some red and black 14gauge lead wires and I am off to install in the truck.
I didn't put the Nokia modification up since I doubt there is any interest. Basically I gutted it, Used a heat gun and bent the arms in a manner that would hold my devices and allow for the thicker electronics. Then used some moldable plastic (polymorph) to make a BASE for the electronics to screw into / secure it. I had already added a Ram Ball mount to it so reassembly and plugging it back in were all that was needed. - Overly simplified explanation -
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I can't see, I'm blind, lol.
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Check the 3rd post. I just 'dumped' the pictures here and will reorganize later.
The 12v charger and the 120v charger have the same output specs with the exception of the 12v output on the car charger. Have had this setup working for over a week now without fail or issue/. The second one is for a 'STEALTH' install on a piece of vehicle trim. When I am navigating, or using Torque app, I keep the device in the Car dock under the rearview. Just driving around, I set it behind my shifter where I put another charging pad under it. Just waiting for my Micro Suction tape to use as a pad so it doesn't move around.

			
				

			
				
Great pics, sounds like something id do but my Grand Cherokee has nowhere "extra" i could place my ohone onto a hidden qi charger.
You know they make much smaller dash cams right? (Sorry, had to).
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Great pics, sounds like something id do but my Grand Cherokee has nowhere "extra" i could place my ohone onto a hidden qi charger.
You know they make much smaller dash cams right? (Sorry, had to).
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I know with the dash cam. It is multi purpose. I like for people to know they are being video'd, especially LEO. then I remove it and use it for other activities.
Thank you for posting this! It inspired me to try taking my wireless charger apart and intergrating it into my car.
Unfortunately I only had the "regular" (non-fast) Samsung wireless charger for my Note 5 and didn't get very far. When I removed the silicone and stickers on the back and front, I couldn't find any screws!
I think I saw the regular Samsung wireless charger in one of your pictures, have you tried taking it apart and do you have any tips?
Thanks again for posting this, the pictures and instructions made a very nice tutorial
(attached below are pictures of my wireless charger without silicone/stickers)
Not joking here. I just sold that unit yesterday. Have you tried looking in that single cylindrical hole on the bottom? Or try holding the unit in between both hands and turning opposite directions?
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Not joking here. I just sold that unit yesterday. Have you tried looking in that single cylindrical hole on the bottom? Or try holding the unit in between both hands and turning opposite directions?
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Wow, talk about bad timing. Thanks for the suggestions.
I checked the small hole in the bottom, and there is no screw there either, just a nice view of the board beneath.
I also tried twisting the unit in opposite directions and nothing seems to move. I could try putting it in a vise but it was already difficult to grasp the bottom to twist, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get any more leverage.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for the regular wireless charger? I've been thinking how nice it would be to have the fast charging version anyway, now there might be an additional benefit of being able to open it easily.
Sold it to a buddy for 20, he wanted a fast charger too so I sold that to him for 25 and a cable. ~$45 and a handshake.
I got a deal from a retailer that was hesitant on getting them in stock. I put in on 4 of them and paid less than $100USD for them all combined.
If your device supports the fast charging wirelessly, I would recommend in the investment. Check amazon, bestbuy, and all the normal big box places for "black friday/cyber monday" weekend deals.
Worst case with your current one, pry it open or use a dremmel.
THOUGHT on the vise. Put it horizontal instead of vertical. That way the cylindrical disk will split as you tighten it. All the internals should be fine. Or do it in that manner to gain access to a spot where a flat head will have purchase for prying.
You can buy raw charging boards without a case on amazon for like 12 bucks.
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You can buy raw charging boards without a case on amazon for like 12 bucks.
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The samsung fast wireless boards? Got a link for that?
Couldn't figure out search parameters that yielded me that.
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Wow, talk about bad timing. Thanks for the suggestions.
I checked the small hole in the bottom, and there is no screw there either, just a nice view of the board beneath.
I also tried twisting the unit in opposite directions and nothing seems to move. I could try putting it in a vise but it was already difficult to grasp the bottom to twist, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get any more leverage.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for the regular wireless charger? I've been thinking how nice it would be to have the fast charging version anyway, now there might be an additional benefit of being able to open it easily.
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Hi! Sorry for revive this... Any luck opening it? I´m in the same boat here
The LEDs are driving me crazy at night. Just fixed the Fast charger thanks to this thread, but the regular one is resisting haha
EP-PG920I teardown
If it's the newer pad, you do twist to open. I took apart for the same reason. I have a S7 Edge and no point in using a fast charger on my night stand.
The top twist counter clockwise. Attached is a photo with the notch.
Once open, there are 4 screws on the inside and then the bottom comes off.
There are 2 bulbs and access is not great but you can get to them and eliminate or black out.
If you have any other questions, let me know. I have the newer pad, the newer fast charge pad and the new fast charging stand.
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If it's the newer pad, you do twist to open. I took apart for the same reason. I have a S7 Edge and no point in using a fast charger on my night stand.
The top twist counter clockwise. Attached is a photo with the notch.
Once open, there are 4 screws on the inside and then the bottom comes off.
There are 2 bulbs and access is not great but you can get to them and eliminate or black out.
If you have any other questions, let me know. I have the newer pad, the newer fast charge pad and the new fast charging stand.
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Its really hard isnt it? can´t easily turn it counter clockwise.. its slippery and hard.
Any tip?
Thanks again!

Wireless charging solution by Nillkin

anyone already try new wireless charging solution by Nillkin?
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seems very good to me :good:
http://nillkin.org/accessories/chargers/nillkin-magic-tags-type-c-wireless-charging-receiver
If you have to connect something to charge, what's the difference between this and just connecting it normally without losing DASH charging?
maybe you just come home and put your phone on to wireless charging dock instead desk. And you dont care how long it will take to charge. I was on wireless charging on my previos phone (Nexus5) and it was perfect for me it feels good forget about charging.
I thought that I'd miss wireless charging, especially since I invested in Qi chargers in the house and cars but I found dash charge to be a LOT more convenient.
Same here. I thought I would miss qi charging, but I've been okay without it. I bought a couple USB-C docks for my nightstand and work desk. I'm not using dash charge on them but it charges quickly enough without it.
Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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want to order one tonight. i noticed the tag has adhesive. is it strong? id hate to gunk up the back of my phone.
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want to order one tonight. i noticed the tag has adhesive. is it strong? id hate to gunk up the back of my phone.
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There is only one small strip (2cm x 0.5cm) of some sort of 3M adhesive. I haven't bothered taking the protective layer off to try it since it will be underneath a case and I anticipate having to move it to access the USB port anyways as I mentioned.
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There is only one small strip (2cm x 0.5cm) of some sort of 3M adhesive. I haven't bothered taking the protective layer off to try it since it will be underneath a case and I anticipate having to move it to access the USB port anyways as I mentioned.
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ok cool so it stays stable under the case without the adhesive. just ordered one. dash is great but the convenience of dropping my phone on a pad at night is great
Usability
Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Depends on the case.I'll be putting mine between the phone and case. Its trial and error with thickness .though the manufacturer says i think like .2mm I'll leave it in all the time.kind of like a dust cover too
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Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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I got my hands on an ordinary flat charging pad and the phone properly charges positioned pretty much anywhere on the pad.
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Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Cases typically aren't thick enough to prevent the system from charging unless the distance and position of the coils is already at its limit, like with my upright charging docks which were made with smaller phones in mind. Nicer and newer chargers will have multiple coils for better coverage. Case materials like metal however will prevent all charging through them, which is why wireless charging and NFC has been excluded from many recent phones. Increasing distance does decrease the efficiency but probably not to a significant amount in this scenario.
Certain cases will have tighter tolerances for fitting this device underneath than others. I would say the pad gets about as thick as a US quarter in the middle. You also need enough space around the USB port for the plug and ribbon cable. I will try the stock OnePlus 3 sandstone case once it arrives, but my current $3 clear vinyl case is fine, just a bit wobbly when laying on a flat surface.
Are you able to use the USB type c cable when you have the adapter installed?
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Are you able to use the USB type c cable when you have the adapter installed?
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You'll have to unplug it
got my adapter on Thursday.Got married Sunday and was out of town and in hotels for a few days so i got some good testing time with this. it works great. im using it with an anker qi charger. i have it behind a rubber case and i have no problems with it. it charges slow obviously but its stupid easy and at least with the anker qi charger there is a big sweet spot.
I must be missing something but this thing seems to me to be a power pack that you plug in via the sub port, however small.
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I must be missing something but this thing seems to me to be a power pack that you plug in via the sub port, however small.
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It's a Qi compliant inductive coil for wireless charging
Ahhh. I though this small metal strip was all you needed. Should have paid more attention to it.
Just wanted to confirm that this wireless charging pad fits fine underneath the official Sandstone case from OnePlus. You will still have to remove the case to remove the plug to access the USB C slot, but other than that it works just fine.
Complete utter rubbish based on what it actually does:
1. Charges at only ~650 mAh rate (slow to hell, my USB PC & Laptop & Tiny client is faster then this, I can get up to 1400mAh with my set up(s) if not using DASH charge).
2. Can not plug OTG-USB, connect to a PC at will or use DASH charge if not removed.
3. Not all protective cases are ok with this external QI pad.
Based only on these 3, it's a complete fail...... and so on... until it is a complete and utter fail yet again.
Verdict: a total waste of money.

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