I plan on upgrading to the Note 4 from my SGH-T889 on the Magenta Network (T-Mobile) but im stuck on which variant to get. All U.S. models are Snapdragon while others regions are Exynos. Im wondering if I should get T-Mobiles (Snapdragon) or International (Exynos)
■Exynos Chipset Specs:
CPU
4x A53 Cores at 1.3 Ghz
4x A57 Cores at 1.9 Ghz
GPU
Mali T760 at 700Mhz
Additional Info:
Its 8 cores, runs in 32bit mode but is 64 bit. It is built on a 20 process. It has better battery due to big.LITTLE configuration.
■Snapdragon Chipset Specs:
CPU
4 cores at 2.7 Ghz
GPU
Aderno 420 <===(hehe 420)
Additional Info:
It has a faster sigle core speed, better than the Snapdragon 800, only runs in 32 bit.
I don't know too much about this chipset.
According to various(that I have seen) benchmarks the Exynos configuration outperforms the Snapdragon in everyway. But I hear that there isn't much [custom rom support] for the Exynos chips. Im also considering the fact the Note 4 might be considered in the lineup of getting Android L which is a 64 bit Operation.
Tell me what your plan and reason of choice.
Also can you help me link this to the other Note 4 Q&A Fourms, thank you.
Because they are by the carriers
DirtyUsb_Port said:
Also can you help me link this to the other Note 4 Q&A Fourms, thank you.
Because they are by the carriers
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Get the 805. Its faster and hasore development support. The exynos ones usually don't get ROMs and kernels for months. Oh, and the battery is usually slightly better.
I still haven't figured out whether the Exynos version will work on Tmo and give me fast internet speeds. I am currently using the Exynos Note 3 on AT&T and am stuck with their H/H+ Internet. It's not slow by any means, but having LTE would be a bonus. I'm unfamiliar with Tmobile's non-LTE speeds since I haven't switched to their network yet.
T-Mobile 4g LTE speeds I think is 11.2 Mbps, which is still faster than AT&T
If you go international then your going to suffer on connectivity with the tmobile network.
Tmobile just bought up new frequencies that will allow for great building penetration and more high speed lte for cheaper and even in rural areas...the tmobile(and prob even at&t) note 4 is one of the only phones so far that can take advantage of these new frequency bands.
Also tons of amazing developers have tmobile and tend to stick with it....
I doubt much of the 64 system features will even be exploited right off the bat with android L considering hardly any phones even run 64... once it's more widespread then you'll see system updates that really utilize the system.... guessing that's a couple years out though
Doesn't the international version have the same antenna bands as the US meaning that it will get LTE.
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T-Mobile 4g LTE speeds I think is 11.2 Mbps, which is still faster than AT&T
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The HSPA or whatever, that one is like 12mbps. But LTE in my experience is 30mbps. That was a year ago in a small town, I'm sure it's at least as fast if not faster in this slightly bigger cityish area.
But I'm wondering the same thing as the OP: will the factory unlocked international model support all the same bands on the Tmo network as the Tmo model?
From what i gather tmobile uses 1700/2100 MHz AWS for LTE
The Exynos version doesnt have the 1700 band, so i guess no LTE?
Debating what version to get and i want FULL LTE in USA and maybe Japan.
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I currently have the most up to date SIM card for AT&T, I am on the 4G LTE plan, my phone spec's say it should work, but the best I can get is H+ service. My area in San Diego has LTE speeds. Does anyone know how to get this phone to work on the LTE network. AT&T tells me it won't because I didn't buy it from them.
The N7000 doesn't have LTE.
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Only HSPA+ on the Int Note
As noted.. you will only get LTE on the Note that comes directly from AT&T.
Zamboney said:
The N7000 doesn't have LTE.
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I thought the phone did have LTE...Oh well. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
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As noted.. you will only get LTE on the Note that comes directly from AT&T.
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I thought only the processor changed, not the guts of the phone... that sucks!!!! Regardless, the international version of the phone is far superior than the one offered by AT&T. I don't have all the baggage to contend with
I'm confused .
I found these specs for the GT-N7000:
Also known as Samsung GT-N7000, Samsung I9220
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 (region specific)
Then I searched to see what band or frequency AT&T uses for LTE and found it is LTE 700. My region has it. Therefore, my phone is capable and there must be a setting to get the phone to talk to the network. My plan has been changed and I have the newest SIM card installed. There has to be a away .
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I'm confused .
I found these specs for the GT-N7000:
Also known as Samsung GT-N7000, Samsung I9220
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 (region specific)
Then I searched to see what band or frequency AT&T uses for LTE and found it is LTE 700. My region has it. Therefore, my phone is capable and there must be a setting to get the phone to talk to the network. My plan has been changed and I have the newest SIM card installed. There has to be a away .
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Dude, Exynos chipset does not support LTE. N700 does not have LTE support. You'd have to buy an AT&T version to make LTE work.
joyo22 said:
Dude, Exynos chipset does not support LTE. N700 does not have LTE support. You'd have to buy an AT&T version to make LTE work.
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+1 that's why they had to drop the far faster exynos for the slowdragon on att.
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Pavito said:
I'm confused .
I found these specs for the GT-N7000:
Also known as Samsung GT-N7000, Samsung I9220
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 (region specific)
Then I searched to see what band or frequency AT&T uses for LTE and found it is LTE 700. My region has it. Therefore, my phone is capable and there must be a setting to get the phone to talk to the network. My plan has been changed and I have the newest SIM card installed. There has to be a away .
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See how it says "region specific"? This is not an LTE phone in Europe. This is not an LTE phone period. The AT&T Note has LTE, and that was tacked onto the Note's list of frequencies because the AT&T Note can get it. Not because yours can.
Your phone is not capable of LTE. It doesn't matter what sim card you use, what region you're in, or if you practice black magic.
I think hebis confused because the Korean lte note?
Which has exynos right
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Note has to have a specific hardware to cater for a LTE signal and international N7000 don;t have it... This is the reason why every galaxy note in korea and AT&T's galaxy note is equipped with snapdragon processor and not with exynos chipset...
I love answering this question over and over again! Exynos 4210 = no LTE. Snapdragon S3 = LTE.
As far as the CPU vs guts question goes, modern phones don't use separate CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. They use an SoC (System on a chip) which combines these elements into one module. Exynos is the name of the SoC; not the CPU.
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
I love answering this question over and over again! Exynos 4210 = no LTE. Snapdragon S3 = LTE.
As far as the CPU vs guts question goes, modern phones don't use separate CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. They use an SoC (System on a chip) which combines these elements into one module. Exynos is the name of the SoC; not the CPU.
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So what's the name of the CPU?
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So what's the name of the CPU?
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The CPU is a dual-core ARM Cortex A9. I have no idea what Samsung calls it.
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The listed specifications from GSMArena is off, there is a Galaxy Note LTE prior to AT&T's, but it is specific to South Korean market and had the model number SHV-E160. This is the same one that AT&t sells in the U.S. now as the SGH-I717 with the Snapdragon processor.
TRF-Inferno said:
The listed specifications from GSMArena is off, there is a Galaxy Note LTE prior to AT&T's, but it is specific to South Korean market and had the model number SHV-E160. This is the same one that AT&t sells in the U.S. now as the SGH-I717 with the Snapdragon processor.
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Correct. Exonys chip set does not support LTE. The Korean model supported lte but not the correct band for america and it has a snapdragon chipset.
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
The CPU is a dual-core ARM Cortex A9. I have no idea what Samsung calls it.
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Samsung used to call it Hummingbird if I'm not mistaken..
i9220
joshnichols189 said:
See how it says "region specific"? This is not an LTE phone in Europe. This is not an LTE phone period. The AT&T Note has LTE, and that was tacked onto the Note's list of frequencies because the AT&T Note can get it. Not because yours can.
Your phone is not capable of LTE. It doesn't matter what sim card you use, what region you're in, or if you practice black magic.
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Also the i9220 the Chinese version of the note is LTE. It was the first to be LTE and then AT&T's version came out so if he had a i9220 he could use LTE on it.
Diesel1968 said:
Also the i9220 the Chinese version of the note is LTE. It was the first to be LTE and then AT&T's version came out so if he had a i9220 he could use LTE on it.
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But he doesn't..
Can these roms be used for some Us variants. The specs seem the same.
How can you say the specs seem to be the same when they are COMPLETELY different? The only thing the same is the ram & LTE but even the LTE bands are all different... The US variant only has Dual Core Snapdragon when the I9305 is a Quad CORE Exynos
Different different and Yehh ummm DIFFerent
btemtd said:
How can you say the specs seem to be the same when they are COMPLETELY different? The only thing the same is the ram & LTE but even the LTE bands are all different... The US variant only has Dual Core Snapdragon when the I9305 is a Quad CORE Exynos
Different different and Yehh ummm DIFFerent
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There are US variants of the M3, especially for T-Mobile. Calm down.
So your saying there are I9305 being sold in the US on Plans? I am sure US t-mobile has the 1900 band but thats not LTE, I wouldnt think they would sell these on a contract knowing the LTE wont work.. Unless there is a whole new version with Exynos Quad/2GB ram and runs on the american LTE? Which one is this?
I have heard of someone in america using the I9305 but it was the European/Australian Variant. And there is the I9305T which is Telstra Australia Variant and another European company has there own model the I9305N... But yeh I never heard of America having there own Model of the I9305.
Edit: when the op mentioned At&T it triggered the snapdragon thought lol which i know are pretty different, and it is why i said they were, And I was calm by the way I seem to use caps when i want to emphasize words
Hi,
I'm buying the S5 today and wondering about which variant I should buy? I can't find any info regarding this (which one is 4G, bands, etc). Even tried Google... Any help is appreciated.
KarimSalloum said:
Hi,
I'm buying the S5 today and wondering about which variant I should buy? I can't find any info regarding this (which one is 4G, bands, etc). Even tried Google... Any help is appreciated.
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If you live in an area with LTE coverage and plan to use it, go for the Snapdragon 801 variant. Look for the specs on the box, if you find the LTE logo and LTE bands listed as well as a 2.5GHz Quad-core CPU type, that's the one. The Exynos version will list HDSPA+ at connectivity and say 2,1GHz Quad core + 1,5 GHz Quad Core, indicating the 8 (4+4) core SoC, that one doesn't have LTE.
KarimSalloum said:
Hi,
I'm buying the S5 today and wondering about which variant I should buy? I can't find any info regarding this (which one is 4G, bands, etc). Even tried Google... Any help is appreciated.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...=5448&id12=5876&id13=5929&id14=5865&id15=6040
See this
http://beta.techradar.com/news/phon...erior-snapdragon-810-1276279#article-comments
well i would feel sad if i had the snapdragon note 4 but mine is exynos so i suppose this is to keep both variants 64bit
Only the SD 810 will most probably be more powerful than Exynos 5433 due to 14nm build which would result lower power consumption and higher clocks. Plus the more powerful Adreno 430.
I remember discussing the possibility of the Note 4 may get SD810 variant before it was available to buy, but the idea was dismissed by others
I just thought this since the S5 originally had SD801 variant but then later released with SD805 chip.
SD 810 is 20 nm chip, same as exynos 5433
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/810
This will probably go the same route as the Galaxy S5 Snapdragon 805, Galaxy S4 LTE-A Snapdragon 800 etc... And be launched in a few countries if not just South Korea.
People who think this will replace the 805 model need to be logical, the 805 Note 4 is by far the most popular in terms of units as it covers the USA, Western Europe and parts of Asia and Africa, so it would cost Samsung a lot, having to recreate a 810 variant for those countries.
This will have limited availability, and when will it be launched? After the S6 probably? Lets get real here.
ar216893 said:
SD 810 is 20 nm chip, same as exynos 5433
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/810
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Ah right, I may got mixed up with Exynos 7420.
http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-note-4-sm-916s-variant-seen-with-snapdragon-810-12359251/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/the-first-device-with-a-snapdragon-810-is-the-galaxy-note-4/
That's a common thing in Korea as most Koreans can enjoy faster download speed due to consistent upgrades in which forces the manufacturer and carriers to upgrade in order to take advantage on increasing download speeds and processor clock speeds and this trend started when LTE-A was launched there and only Snaprdragon 800 can utilise the technology due to its new modem and the result it was the Galaxy S4 LTE-A(SHV-E330S/K/L) until Galaxy S5 LTE-A(SM-G906S/K/L with Snapdragon 805) was released due to another LTE speed upgrade and i will not be surprised if that happens again.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/korean-note-4-revision-will-not-feature-a-newer-chipset/
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Post your Galaxy Note 4 LTE speeds with model numbers/carriers~
Mine is SM-N910U on T-Mobile USA.
You ppl are lucky to get those speeds.. here in Pakistan lte speeds avg around 5 to 8 mbps
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No LTE coverage in my town, only HSDPA+
N910F (Stock/Nobrand) on WIND Italy
Omnitel, Lithuania
Megafon, Kazan, Russia
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tkmobilesupport said:
Post your Galaxy Note 4 LTE speeds with model numbers/carriers~
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What's the point of this, really?
The LTE download speeds are affected by:
1) frequency band - i.e 800/1800/2600 (2600 the best), visible in *#0011#
2) bandwidth - 5/10/15/20/etc Mhz (the higher the better), visible in *#0011#
3) whether carrier aggregation (CA) is enabled or not, visible in *#0011#
4) signal strength, visible in System settings - about - status
5) amount of active traffic on the same frequency/sector
6) hardware (modem) limitations
i mean, DL on 800 with 15Mhz and -100db will probably be lower than 2600 with 20Mhz and -85db.
or 1800 with 15Mhz and -95db will get more DL than 2600 with 20Mhz and -112db.
and if CA is enabled, Note 4 with cat.6 (snapdragon) will get much better results than Note 4 cat.4 (exynos)
i have seen 83MB DL on a Cat3 device without CA, 2600/20Mhz (Galaxy S3 LTE i9305).
Toronto Canada.
SM-N910W8
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Omnitel, Lithuania
force70 said:
Toronto Canada.
SM-N910W8
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That is a fantastic speed~ I wish I can access those type of speeds!
lisbon2004 said:
What's the point of this, really?
The LTE download speeds are affected by:
1) frequency band - i.e 800/1800/2600 (2600 the best), visible in *#0011#
2) bandwidth - 5/10/15/20/etc Mhz (the higher the better), visible in *#0011#
3) whether carrier aggregation (CA) is enabled or not, visible in *#0011#
4) signal strength, visible in System settings - about - status
5) amount of active traffic on the same frequency/sector
6) hardware (modem) limitations
i mean, DL on 800 with 15Mhz and -100db will probably be lower than 2600 with 20Mhz and -85db.
or 1800 with 15Mhz and -95db will get more DL than 2600 with 20Mhz and -112db.
and if CA is enabled, Note 4 with cat.6 (snapdragon) will get much better results than Note 4 cat.4 (exynos)
i have seen 83MB DL on a Cat3 device without CA, 2600/20Mhz (Galaxy S3 LTE i9305).
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There are cat6 exynos versions as well. Also, the intel 7260 modem that the exynos version is equipped has very similar performance compared to the gobi modem that the snapdragon model has, so your reasoning of snapdragon version always being faster than exynos version in terms of LTE is not correct.
The purpose for this thread is to compare the actual real-life performance of the different modems that the Galaxy Note 4s are equipped with.
lisbon2004 said:
What's the point of this, really?
i have seen 83MB DL on a Cat3 device without CA, 2600/20Mhz (Galaxy S3 LTE i9305).
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That is extremely impressive, although I find it hard to believe. We cant even get a 664Mbps connection here in Canada on a home hardline let alone a cell phone. As far as I know LTE is only capable of theoretical speeds up to 150Mbps. How did you manage to create a cell network capable of 664Mbps (88MB/s) and how did you mod the S3 to accept that speed?
Here's mine
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Best I could manage using Smart in Metro Manila on my Australian 910G. I'll be going back to Sydney soon so I'm curious to test Telstra's new upgraded network which is capable of up to 300Mbps
tryfound said:
Best I could manage using Smart in Metro Manila on my Australian 910G. I'll be going back to Sydney soon so I'm curious to test Telstra's new upgraded network which is capable of up to 300Mbps
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Id trade my speeds for a trip back to manila any day!
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Id trade my speeds for a trip back to manila any day!
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True, don't really care about my data speeds, having too much fun. 50c beers and $2 meals... And $2 cigs as opposed to $22 back home. Sigh.
I already posted this pict to other thread in Q & A, but I'm gonna post it here as well.
I'm on XL Axiata, Indonesia
You guys should not be confused with my signature. I'm really on 910H phone.
I really envy with those speed all of you can get.
On N910S (SKT), but on standard LTE, not LTE-A.
(For some reason speedtest automatically chose a Chinese server and it had higher speeds than local servers in seoul, but higher ping)
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On N910S (SKT), but on standard LTE, not LTE-A.
(For some reason speedtest automatically chose a Chinese server and it had higher speeds than local servers in seoul, but higher ping)
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That's still impressive LTE speeds. With the tri-band carrier aggregation that SKT commercially launched, you will have access to speeds up to 300mbps and greater. I think we all need to acknowledge Korea's internet speeds.
It's not the Note 4. My carrier just sucks - Globe Telecom. Cebu City.
910F on vodafone spain here called 4G+ (LTE-A) on a 2600MHz BTS, not the best freq but only where available.