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How to upgrade early

Ok, So here's my plan:
1. Go to AT&T website. Login. Add a line
2. Choose the phone I want with that new line for the discounted price or free with two year contract.
3. Receive the phone in the mail with brand new sim and everthing
4. Only take the phone out the box never touch the sim, unlock the phone, put different sim from another phone service in it and start using the phone with that service (or simply swap the sim for the line I'm already using)
5. Never activate the new line
Will i still have to pay for the second line if I never activate it? Or do I walk away sky free with my new phone?
someone said they have done this and it worked, I want feedback before I try and end up getting stuck paying another bill for a second line I don't need or want.

Wonder if this works? Would love to know!
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Eventually they will wonder what happened to the phone they sent to you and either ask for it back or activate it on their end I am sure. What do you do when you don't send a phone back to them?

aka how to try to cheat the system and fail
this won't work because when you agree to purchase at the discounted price, it comes with the expressed agreement that you are creating a new line that you will use and pay for 1 year or 2 years. if you do not activate the line, you will be charged for a line cancelation/ETF. without any months used, that means you'll pay for discounted price of phone and an ETF of at least $350
basically, AT&T isn't stupid. if you've thought of this idea, it's likely they have as well.

Kaik541 said:
aka how to try to cheat the system and fail
this won't work because when you agree to purchase at the discounted price, it comes with the expressed agreement that you are creating a new line that you will use and pay for 1 year or 2 years. if you do not activate the line, you will be charged for a line cancelation/ETF. without any months used, that means you'll pay for discounted price of phone and an ETF of at least $350
basically, AT&T isn't stupid. if you've thought of this idea, it's likely they have as well.
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I don't know....That's why I asked second opinions, but how can they cancel what was never activated? And I haven't signed any agreements? So why would I pay a early termination fee for something I never activated, or terminated?

nightwanderer said:
Eventually they will wonder what happened to the phone they sent to you and either ask for it back or activate it on their end I am sure. What do you do when you don't send a phone back to them?
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Why would you have to send something back that you paid for? That's like buying something from Wal-mart, and not using it the way it was supposed to be used so they ask you to bring it back... Not Likely. Lol

Klyentel said:
And I haven't signed any agreements? So why would I pay a early termination fee for something I never activated, or terminated?
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clicking agree is the same thing as signing your name on paper.
when you go to the web site and ask for a second line (with a phone) you must click "agree" to a contract. read the contract. you agree to pay for the phone if you do not activate the second line with a 2 year(or whatever) contract. that is why they send you a phone, because you agree to be a customer for a couple years.
Klyentel said:
Why would you have to send something back that you paid for? That's like buying something from Wal-mart, and not using it the way it was supposed to be used so they ask you to bring it back... Not Likely. Lol
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when you buy something from walmart you BUY it, you PAY MONEY for it. so OF COURSE they wouldnt ask you to bring it back. but if you RENT a car, and dont bring it back, they charge your credit card, as you agreed too.

yeah dont do that! someone may have fallen through the cracks here and there, but believe me they dont give you the phone on just good faith. they can charge you for the phone full price on the credit card, they can activate your line anyway and charge you for the two years of service, they can put it on your credit report, and they can charge you with theft. maybe they have a bad system and people get away with it, maybe in a court you can get a really good lawyer and get out of it for only lawyer and court fees(more expensive anyway) but all in all it is not a good idea.

Kyle...
for more information on " clicking agree " please go to
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes
and watch the season 15 premier of South Park
Human-cent-i-pad
- (official site no legal issues)
"why wont it read?"

Well glad I didn't try it, but I do know someone that got away with it. Maybe they got lucky.

TRusselo said:
when you buy something from walmart you BUY it, you PAY MONEY for it. so OF COURSE they wouldnt ask you to bring it back. but if you RENT a car, and dont bring it back, they charge your credit card, as you agreed too.
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Unless it's offered for free, you do actually pay for the phone though. You just get a discounted price.
Eample, if the phone retails at $599, they give it to you for $199 if you agree to two years of service.
So after you pay the offered price, the phone is yours. They cannot ask for it back, regardless if you terminate service early or whatever. And they charge your credit card right up front before they even ship it out. So that is what I met by the Wal Mart analogy, Once you pay for something its yours

its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
and EVERYONE else that has even bothered answering this thread agrees.
face it you are wrong.
and lcd damage
water damage
brick...
your sig doesnt inspire trust in you....

TRusselo said:
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
and EVERYONE else that has even bothered answering this thread agrees.
face it you are wrong.
and lcd damage
water damage
brick...
your sig doesnt inspire trust in you....
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Wtf? I never said I was right! All I did was ask for some feedback you prick. I just wanted to see what others thought before I tried, and now I know. Now why are you getting so sensitive about the issue? Do you work for AT&T or something? Dam.
And my sig has nothing to do with you, and most those phones weren't mine they were my wifes, except for the G1, either way not your concern, go inspire a life

TRusselo said:
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
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Since you like correcting people, and I'm sure 1400 of your 1700+ posts on xda are probably you being a ****....Allow me to correct you.
Just because you inquire a fee for something it does not reflect the price value of the merchandise. Example, you pay $199 for a phone that is originally $599, you cancel contract early and pay the ETF of $250 ( I don't know where the **** you got $350 from ) You look at it as if you paid full price of the phone right? Wrong. You may have spent in total almost 500 bucks anyway, but not on the phone. Because if you paid full price for the phone which is $599 plus the ETF of $250...your total spent would be about 850 dollars. Big difference right? Right.
Moral to the story, before you try to be a smart ass, you first have to be smart, otherwise, that just makes you an ass!

i never started name calling or being sensitive, and obviously i dont work for att im canadian.
why did you bother asking us if you know you are right?
im done.
grow up.

Thread closed, since this won't lead to nothing. Also, discussion in how to avoid payment or leaning to cheating it doesn't sound good.
If you want to do it, do it. No need to discuss it in a public forum.

Pay ETF to get discount on phone?

Can I simply sign up for the cheapest contract, get the phone at a discounted rate, pay the ETF right after, and walk away with a discounted phone?
I'm 6 months away from ending my contract, and my current phone has been really messing up a lot lately. I'm really strapped for cash at the moment, and I really can't wait 6 months for a new phone. I could buy a phone on Ebay, but a few years ago I got ripped off on there, so I would rather leave that as a last resort.
The phone is $600 brand new from my carrier. I really can't pay that for a phone at the moment. Signing a 2 year and getting it online would cost under $100 including activation fee. That's without any rebates. Just immediate discounts I believe. Plan is $60. ETF is $200. That's about $400 total with room for any taxes once I cancel. On ebay it's about $400-$500 new.
Could I do this instead of paying the $600 full price? Or am I missing something?

toiletsss said:
Can I simply sign up for the cheapest contract, get the phone at a discounted rate, pay the ETF right after, and walk away with a discounted phone?
I'm 6 months away from ending my contract, and my current phone has been really messing up a lot lately. I'm really strapped for cash at the moment, and I really can't wait 6 months for a new phone. I could buy a phone on Ebay, but a few years ago I got ripped off on there, so I would rather leave that as a last resort.
The phone is $600 brand new from my carrier. I really can't pay that for a phone at the moment. Signing a 2 year and getting it online would cost under $100 including activation fee. That's without any rebates. Just immediate discounts I believe. Plan is $60. ETF is $200. That's about $400 total with room for any taxes once I cancel. On ebay it's about $400-$500 new.
Could I do this instead of paying the $600 full price? Or am I missing something?
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You're missing the fact that your phone will still be network locked,whereas buying it from the MANUFACTURER and it's dealers gets you an unlocked sim,and such phones maintain value longer
Also the carrier has a right to charge you full price if you cancel service in under 30 days and don't return equipment.
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Allanitomwesh said:
You're missing the fact that your phone will still be network locked,whereas buying it from the MANUFACTURER and it's dealers gets you an unlocked sim,and such phones maintain value longer
Also the carrier has a right to charge you full price if you cancel service in under 30 days and don't return equipment.
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I'll be on the same network though, so that shouldn't be a problem right? I also don't mind paying an extra month. That would be about $450 total. I just don't want to be paying $600.

toiletsss said:
I'll be on the same network though, so that shouldn't be a problem right? I also don't mind paying an extra month. That would be about $450 total. I just don't want to be paying $600.
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The savings won't be worth the hassle. I'm predicting more like $500 if you do it like you say.
But then,I'd advice you to read through your networks return policy, especially through the fine print. Like AT&T I know won't return your security deposit,another charge.
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You are really strapped for cash, yet your require a $600 phone? I think you should get your priorities in order before trying to get over on your carrier.

lowandbehold said:
You are really strapped for cash, yet your require a $600 phone?
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Yes. When your phone is the one tool you depend on for most of the day, and considering the price trends on phones, it's worth the investment. In any case, I didn't come here for opinions on my personal finance.

toiletsss said:
Yes. When your phone is the one tool you depend on for most of the day, and considering the price trends on phones, it's worth the investment. In any case, I didn't come here for opinions on my personal finance.
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Before you kill each other,he does have a valid point. Why not buy a phone in your price range,or save for the 60 days you'd have to endure in your current plan?
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Allanitomwesh said:
Before you kill each other,he does have a valid point. Why not buy a phone in your price range,or save for the 60 days you'd have to endure in your current plan?
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I have 6 months left? Not 60 days. And because I've set aside money specifically for this purpose. Non-contracted phones in the $100 range are obsolete, and I'd end up spending more money anyways. I know what I'm doing with my money. I didn't come here looking for the Suze Orman of smartphones.

toiletsss said:
Yes. When your phone is the one tool you depend on for most of the day, and considering the price trends on phones, it's worth the investment. In any case, I didn't come here for opinions on my personal finance.
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Actually, considering the price trends on phones, you are way off. If you are really strapped for cash, but can pull enough together for a phone, I would suggest a Galaxy Nexus. You can pick one up for $350 brand new, even less used. It will easily be good for another 2 years, and you can get yourself on prepaid when your contract ends and save a ton per month.
When you say $600 I am assuming you are planning on getting the GSIII. Not worth it in my opinion. Best thing out right now? Probably. A major upgrade from a GSII or Nexus? Nope. With technology how it is right now..the latest and greatest isn't going to be that much greater than the other options.
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One more thing...check with your carrier before doing this. Most carriers won't let you start a new contract for 6 months after paying an ETF.

lowandbehold said:
Actually, considering the price trends on phones, you are way off. If you are really strapped for cash, but can pull enough together for a phone, I would suggest a Galaxy Nexus. You can pick one up for $350 brand new, even less used. It will easily be good for another 2 years, and you can get yourself on prepaid when your contract ends and save a ton per month.
When you say $600 I am assuming you are planning on getting the GSIII. Not worth it in my opinion. Best thing out right now? Probably. A major upgrade from a GSII or Nexus? Nope. With technology how it is right now..the latest and greatest isn't going to be that much greater than the other options.
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How so? Market prices for good conditioned phones seem to level off right above $100. And this happens far down the line. Sweetspot seems to be in the $300 range, so $400 for a new phone is more than reasonable. $600 is not so reasonable. This is from the prices I've seen on CL or Ebay.
And no. HTC One S actually. And for me, it's definitely the best thing out right now.

toiletsss said:
How so? Market prices for good conditioned phones seem to level off right above $100. And this happens far down the line. Sweetspot seems to be in the $300 range, so $400 for a new phone is more than reasonable. $600 is not so reasonable. This is from the prices I've seen on CL or Ebay.
And no. HTC One S actually. And for me, it's definitely the best thing out right now.
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You can get a One S for $380...

lowandbehold said:
You can get a One S for $380...
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A new one? From where?

xda marketplace, swappa, craigslist...the price of that phone has plummeted.

toiletsss said:
I have 6 months left? Not 60 days. And because I've set aside money specifically for this purpose. Non-contracted phones in the $100 range are obsolete, and I'd end up spending more money anyways. I know what I'm doing with my money. I didn't come here looking for the Suze Orman of smartphones.
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You'd have to keep your phone 60 days to qualify for ETF. I wasn't referring to your current contract. Also,phone companies aren't stupid,and neither are their law firms. You will end up paying in full,or incurring a loss. There's a reason nobody is trying it.
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As this thread doesn't have to do with mobile devices and instead service plans and carrier issues, moved to Off-Topic.

Quite frankly,to be putting this much effort into getting a HTC one S isn't worth it at all. If you have $300 to pay etf then you have enough to afford a one S,new and unlocked from your carrier you seem to despise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774401&highlight=one+s
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Tried it once when the iPhone 3g first came out. It ended up costing me no less than if I had paid retail price. I think they have that all figured out.

Not to mention the hell it will wreak on your credit score.

Yeah, for the money you're actually talking about you could get a Nexus, a Sony Xperia Sola or U, or a number of other phones.

T-Mobile Jump: All Hype

Last time I was in the T-Mobile store, the clerk told me about their "Jump" program. It sounded great: You give them your old phone, they give you a new one, your monthly payments stay the same. No brainer. Go for it.
Something, however, didn't feel right. I went over the words again in my mind. You give them your old phone, they give you a new one, your monthly payments stay the same. What could possibly be wrong with that?
I took it apart:
1) You give them your old phone.
No problem. It's old. I want a new one.
2) They give you a new one.
Trade in your old, obsolete phone for a band new, cutting edge device. Cool.
3) Your monthly payments stay the same.
Paying the exact same amount for a brand new phone as what I was paying for my old phone. I can afford that.
Sound too good to be true?
It is.
When you do the math, it becomes obvious that when you jump, you lose money.
Think about "You give them your old phone". Notice the word "give". That means you get nothing in return. You may be thinking, "No, I AM getting something in return - a band new phone!
Wrong. T-Mobile makes it seem like it's all one big happy transaction. The Jump, however, actually consists of two separate transactions: giving them your old phone, and, getting a new phone.
1) Giving them your old phone
T-Mobile makes you think that when you give them your old phone, you get a new one in return. It sounds great because we think that the value of the old phone necessarily is less than that of the new phone. You say to yourself, Wow! I can't believe they're doing that! Well, they're not.
You have been paying off the old phone for quite a while, and have built up "equity" of a few hundred dollars, which is the basis for the true value of the old phone. When you jump, you give T-Mobile those hundreds of dollars as a gift. It seems like you get back the amount still left on the loan because T-Mobile "pays" it for you. That amount is always smaller than what you've already paid. It has to be, otherwise, T-Mobile wouldn't pay it. They make sure that they never lose money on the deal in two ways. 1) THEY tell YOU how much your old phone is worth, and, 2) You can jump only every six months (after which the amount you've paid on the loan exceeds what's left).
Now, what is the value of their payment of the balance of the old phone? Zero. When you give them the phone, you no longer owe the balance. You don't have the phone any more, they do. If you were to continue paying the loan off, you would be building up T-Mobile's equity rather than your own.
What is really happening is the following:
- You pay full price for your old phone, and then you give it away for nothing.
2) Getting a new phone
When T-Mobile says, "You get a brand new phone but the payments stay the same", they are drawing your attention away from the fact that when you jump, you take out a loan on the new phone for its full price. The payments don't "stay the same". The same as what? The loan you had on the old phone, which, as we've seen, is a separate transaction. So, the fact that the payments "stay the same" doesn't put a dime in your pocket. Ironically, you are the one ensuring that the payments stay the same by putting down a couple of hundred dollars. Oh, wait a minute, I forgot something. T-Mobile charges $10/mo to jump. So the payments actually increase.
What is really happening is the following:
- You pay full price for the new phone, and pay T-Mobile $10/mo for the privilege.
I didn't jump.

From my understanding if you owe money on the 6 month or less "old phone" then it is paid off. If you don't owe money on the "old phone" you get the trade in value of the phone. Which is what you would get anyways. And for someone who likes to switch there phone up every 3 or so months when a new "interesting" phone comes out, its a pretty good thing....
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You're wrong on the "Jump every six months part". You initially wait 6 months after signing up to be able to use Jump, after that you can get two new devices within twelve months with no wait time in between. I verified that with three T-Mobile reps. Say I buy the Nexus 5 this week (which I am) and the Galaxy S5 comes out next month and I want that.. Guess what? I can go trade my device in for that S5. But then I'm out of upgrades for almost a year..

jump program from what i was also told is that it comes with warranty, so if i lost my phone or what not, it will be covered.....

Dude the $10 replaces your old php/ warranty which could be higher . so no its not a separate charge. I was paying 15 for insurance/ warranty and when I registered for jump it REPLACED that charge for $10. So I saved $5 a month. Also when you trade in your old phone any balance left is paid off and yes you are technically leasing a phone but you don't have to JUMP every six months. It actually works out better than their previous plan. I have two separate payment plans before jump because I didn't realize they were actually starting a new credit line for every phone you financed. I thought it was adding to the total. This plan leaves you with one balance to pay and not multiple.
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jbreeze228 said:
You're wrong on the "Jump every six months part". You initially wait 6 months after signing up to be able to use Jump, after that you can get two new devices within twelve months with no wait time in between. I verified that with three T-Mobile reps. Say I buy the Nexus 5 this week (which I am) and the Galaxy S5 comes out next month and I want that.. Guess what? I can go trade my device in for that S5. But then I'm out of upgrades for almost a year..
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Sorry that's not how it works either. If you buy your nexus device with jump you have to wait six months in between for the twice a year upgrade. I've also been told this by a few reps. I'd like to know the specifoc s of this.
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monkeypaws said:
Dude the $10 replaces your old php/ warranty which could be higher . so no its not a separate charge. I was paying 15 for insurance/ warranty and when I registered for jump it REPLACED that charge for $10. So I saved $5 a month. Also when you trade in your old phone any balance left is paid off and yes you are technically leasing a phone but you don't have to JUMP every six months. It actually works out better than their previous plan. I have two separate payment plans before jump because I didn't realize they were actually starting a new credit line for every phone you financed. I thought it was adding to the total. This plan leaves you with one balance to pay and not multiple.
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Sorry that's not how it works either. If you buy your nexus device with jump you have to wait six months in between for the twice a year upgrade. I've also been told this by a few reps. I'd like to know the specifoc s of this.
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That's very possible for it to be that case. But for me to be misquoted by three reps is pretty bad on T-Mobile's part. The last time I called was to verify my Jump Upgrade date last week and the guy went through all the specifics of the program and said after you wait the initial 6 months, after that you can upgrade two times in one year regardless of the time between the upgrades. But I just like the fact that I can upgrade two times in one year and have it added to monthly bill.

Well, it sounds like if you consistently jump you're basically leasing your phones...
Pay monthly for it, JUMP to a new one, and continue paying. Might be okay for some people, might not. Really depends on how often you upgrade and whether or not you really need to. I love having the latest stuff, but the Nexus 5 seems to satisfy me in every way possible. Don't know how it could get much better right now (camera, MAYBE - I never really take pictures anyway), so I may end up keeping this phone past my typical year of owning a device.
I haven't paid insurance on my devices in quite some time. Waste of money for me considering how cheap the Nexus line is nowadays, plus I've never broke, damaged, or lost a phone in the past 10 years. Wouldn't really like paying the $10/mo, plus the new phone payments, even with a value plan.

craigbailey1986 said:
From my understanding if you owe money on the 6 month or less "old phone" then it is paid off. If you don't owe money on the "old phone" you get the trade in value of the phone. Which is what you would get anyways. And for someone who likes to switch there phone up every 3 or so months when a new "interesting" phone comes out, its a pretty good thing....
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This is correct. When you first sign up with jump you have to wait six months to"jump". After that you can jump twice a year whenever you want, you can jump twice in one week but then have to wait another year to do it again. There are pros and cons to this plan and depends on the person to decide if it is useful to them. Remember OP just like flashing it's your choice, don't try to blame T-Mobile for a choice that you make.
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Let me break it down for you a bit:
Person 1 buys an HTC One at full price through T-Mobile at $600 (price when I purchased mine) no JUMP.
Person 2 buys the same HTC One for $0 down with payments equalling $25 beginning in Month #2 with $10 per month for JUMP.
Both parties pay the tax for the full price of the device so that's a mute point.
6 months down the road (when you are JUMP eligible for the first time) you trade in the HTC One for a Nexus 5.
Person 1 sells the HTC One for $369 (the current avg selling price according to Swappa.com) and buys a Nexus 5 from Google for $350 (again we ignore tax) making the total outlay:
0-600+369-350 = -$581
Person 2 walks into T-Mobile and trades the HTC One in and walks out the door with a new Nexus 5 for $0 down and $16.50 per month. Saving $8.50 per month from the HTC One. Total outlay:
0-150(payments of $25 x 6) - 60 = -$205
Let's also mention that JUMP gives you the insurance as well.
With the cost of mobile devices depreciating head over heels it makes no sense to purchase your devices outright if you plan on upgrading on any sort of routine. The equity drops too fast, almost 40% in 6 months. T-Mobile will make its money in 2 places:
1- people who dont want to upgrade
2- people who put money down on their device due to bad credit or when a 0 down deal isn't running
Also its a 1 time 6-month buffer period until you can use JUMP. After that point you may use it 2 times per 12 month period starting with your first JUMP date
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moose1313 said:
This is correct. When you first sign up with jump you have to wait six months to"jump". After that you can jump twice a year whenever you want, you can jump twice in one week but then have to wait another year to do it again. There are pros and cons to this plan and depends on the person to decide if it is useful to them. Remember OP just like flashing it's your choice, don't try to blame T-Mobile for a choice that you make.
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My bad then. That sounds great. My six months will be up in march and I'll be able to do my first jump.
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Guess I should have jumped.... Or, should I have?

PhilipTD said:
I didn't know you could get a phone with no money down.
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$0 money down and 0 signal in any area not within the confines of a very large city.
You get what you pay for

jdk2 said:
$0 money down and 0 signal in any area not within the confines of a very large city.
You get what you pay for
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That's true. Reception is pretty bad in the countryside. Good thing I'm not into nature.

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$0 money down and 0 signal in any area not within the confines of a very large city.
You get what you pay for
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Depends on the area for sure. I'm in the Lakeland area (between Tampa and Orlando FL) and I've had LTE for a long time now and Verizon can't match it. T-Mobile has really taken off within the past 3 years
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altimax98 said:
Depends on the area for sure. I'm in the Lakeland area (between Tampa and Orlando FL) and I've had LTE for a long time now and Verizon can't match it. T-Mobile has really taken off within the past 3 years
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Here's hoping they keep up the momentum. They could bring AT&T and VZW to their knees.

Nice post altimax :thumbup::beer:
I jumped the day it came out. Haven't used yet. Glad I have it though
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jbdan said:
Nice post altimax :thumbup::beer:
I jumped the day it came out. Haven't used yet. Glad I have it though
Nexus5
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No problem, just trying to clarify it... The key is to only JUMP when they do the $0 down deals which is quite often.
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altimax98 said:
Person 1 sells the HTC One for $369 (the current avg selling price according to Swappa.com) and buys a Nexus 5 from Google for $350 (again we ignore tax) making the total outlay:
0-600+369-350 = -$581
Person 2 walks into T-Mobile and trades the HTC One in and walks out the door with a new Nexus 5 for $0 down and $16.50 per month. Saving $8.50 per month from the HTC One. Total outlay:
0-150(payments of $25 x 6) - 60 = -$205
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I think it's a worthy mention that person 2 still owes the price of nexus 5.... so it be 396 + 205 if he doesn't upgrade again. He can jump to avoid paying the debt of the current phone, but eventually he'll be paying full price for a phone.
Person 1 can upgrade as soon as the new hot phone comes out. Person 2 has to wait for 0 down promotion or suffer a loss.

neugenusis said:
I think it's a worthy mention that person 2 still owes the price of nexus 5.... so it be 396 + 205 if he doesn't upgrade again. He can jump to avoid paying the debt of the current phone, but eventually he'll be paying full price for a phone. Person 1 can upgrade as soon as the new hot phone comes out. Person 2 has to wait for 0 down promotion or suffer a loss.
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Yeah, you're exactly right, the $396 loss becomes obscured in the verbiage.

I prefer to just stick to buying my phones off-contract. With the Nexus line being so great at such an amazing price, it seems way better than perpetually paying $20+ a month to basically rent a phone.
Not to mention that pre-paid prices are *so* much better. Like, half the price better. And if you want insurance, you can always get it through one of the many phone insurance companies by yourself for cheaper.

Do anyone know how motorola financed will work on the nexus 6

I was approved for a line of credit and was wondering how motorola would financed the nexus 6. How much would monthly payments be?

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I was approved for a line of credit and was wondering how motorola would financed the nexus 6. How much would monthly payments be?
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You got credit through Motorola? If that's the case call them and ask
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I got it through paypal.

NewMan4Life2010 said:
I got it through paypal.
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Oh ok, look at the terms and conditions in that case
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NewMan4Life2010 said:
I got it through paypal.
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You used paypalbto pay for Nexus 6?

Not to be the one who says it, but if you have to finance a phone, you shouldn't be in this game.

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Not to be the one who says it, but if you have to finance a phone, you shouldn't be in this game.
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Not everyone can afford a phone that's 600 plus outright
From my CM11 S3

hack14u said:
Not to be the one who says it, but if you have to finance a phone, you shouldn't be in this game.
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It all about cash flow I got about $2000 in my phone fund and have a few phones if I paid cash for every one I wouldn't to up grade as often as I do.

Not to be the one who says it, but that's sort of a **** thing to say. Not everybody has $700.00 to drop on a phone all at once. A lot of people are basically financing their phones when they go through a carrier anyways.

dave2metz said:
Not to be the one who says it, but that's sort of a **** thing to say. Not everybody has $700.00 to drop on a phone all at once. A lot of people are basically financing their phones when they go through a carrier anyways.
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+1 Even if you did why would you not want to pay it off interest free for 18 or 24 months make better sense.

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Not to be the one who says it, but if you have to finance a phone, you shouldn't be in this game.
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I gotta agree with this guy. I understand zero percent financing and all, but for someone to pay for the phone with PayPal credit is outrageous. Its like 27% interest.

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I gotta agree with this guy. I understand zero percent financing and all, but for someone to pay for the phone with PayPal credit is outrageous. Its like 27% interest.
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Wow didnt realize that's what he was talking thought he meant like the old Bill Me Later interest free.

wooddale said:
Wow didnt realize that's what he was talking thought he meant like the old Bill Me Later interest free.
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BillMeLater turned into PayPal Credit. They still offer no interest for 6 month deals, but its not a blanket offer like BillMeLater was. There are inclusions, exclusions, and tons of fine print.
BTW, I overstated. The fine print for the APR reads:
"The Annual Percentage Rate is 19.99%"
(which is still outrageously high)

PaisanNYC said:
BillMeLater turned into PayPal Credit. They still offer no interest for 6 month deals, but its not a blanket offer like BillMeLater was. There are inclusions, exclusions, and tons of fine print.
BTW, I overstated. The fine print for the APR reads:
"The Annual Percentage Rate is 19.99%"
(which is still outrageously high)
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Most credit cards are higher than that, the one I have is 24.99
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wooddale said:
You used paypalbto pay for Nexus 6?
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No I got a line of credit for $750.00.

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Not to be the one who says it, but if you have to finance a phone, you shouldn't be in this game.
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My last two phones I brought full price from T-Mobile. I brought a Samsung Note 3 and The phone I have now LG G3. I just didnt want to pay full price this time around.

I've ordered stuff on PayPal credit and I always get 6 months no interest no matter what. I pay it off way before that anyway so it's not a big deal.
So what if you finance it through Motorola if you are good with money you pay it off.
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Just use T-Mobile and finance.
G3

You can't finance through PayPal unless the seller accepts PayPal. I could be wrong but I don't think the Play Store does. Verizon doesn't or any of the other carriers. Your only shot is Motorola if and when they decide to. Unless you can pick up a new one on EBay or Swappa for a reasonable price. You know how that goes guys say they are new but there not + no warranty unless you get a carrier to honor it.

I didn't mean to sound like a jerk when I posted that response last night. If you have 0% interest for 12 or 18 months and you pay it off without getting penalized for late payments or whatever, it's a good deal. On the other hand, if you are planning to pay off the phone with a credit card that charges a ridiculous interest like 10 - 30%, I would agree that it's not a wise choice. In the end, it's really none of my business to tell anyone how to purchase a phone. Sometimes, if you want the latest and greatest phone, you'll do just about anything to get it.

AT&T Nexus cost more??

**Warning** Kind of a long read but I'm curious to other peoples thoughts.
Wanted to share my experience today. I went into a Corporate AT&T store planning on upgrading to a 32GB MB Nexus 6 on the Next program. I'm good with it being carrier locked and I'll just remove the AT&T bloatware. I was excited that they had them in stock, however I noticed that the retail price was for $682.99 instead of $649 like Google has it for. I asked the rep and he was surprised and looked it up. I told him that other carriers were selling it for $649 also, and he verified it but couldn't explain it and mentioned that they can't match it either. I asked why do I want to pay like $30 more for it to be carrier locked and have bloatware installed (okay with it but not gonna pay for it).
At home, I called 611 to see if they would match it and see if they knew why. The first rep basically said that was the way it was and didn't really seem interested. The second time I called (I know now maybe I'm crazy but didn't think its right), I asked for their loyalty department cause I know they have more power. The guy there said he was being told that its not ATT but the Manufacture that is dictating the price. I told him that Motorola has it for $649 on their website and it doesn't make sense that they are letting everyone else sell it for one price and making AT&T sell it higher. Told them that I may change carriers if AT&T thinks that its good business practice to charge more then everyone else.
I want to point out that:
1. I was never rude or demanded anything. Just told them that I hope it gets pushed up and corrected.
2. Realize that this is a first world problem and I could just go purchase it from Google or somewhere else but I feel its the principle. Its not right to charge like $30 more and add to the fact that I would have paid higher taxes.
3. They still ended up not matching the price but did offer me a $50 discount off the contract price but told them I didn't want a contract.

The extra cost is for the high quality paint used for the death star logo on the back. (The one that comes off if you stare at it hard enough.)
Actually, I didn't mind the extra 30 for one simple reason: it didn't require waiting 6 to 20 weeks for moto to get stock and ship.
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Ha on the paint. I'm still torn. Almost talked myself into going back and just pay for it.

You know what? I just bought a Nexus 6 from AT&T web ordering and I knew it was $30 more than everyone else, but you know what?! AT&T has them in stock and nobody else does!! Get over it. If you don't like it wait until Google has them on their site and then wait some more until they really have it and can send it to you! I had no problem getting mine from AT&T and I really didn't care that it has their logo on it!

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Ha on the paint. I'm still torn. Almost talked myself into going back and just pay for it.
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Do you going to leave a service because they charge 30 bucks for a device no one got in stock? Sound like a great business strategy for me... They know they can provide it today while others can in weeks. I will advice you go back

Appreciate the feed back. I realize that's it only like 30 bucks but there is also the added cost of paying taxes on 682 instead of 649. Not outrageous but still there. I doubt they are charging higher because they know they have them in stock. Especially when they are late to the game. They had to send their initial batch back. I wonder if this is fair to be who don't realize they are paying more. I noticed the price difference and accept the added cost, I'm okay with it but it's not fair to an unsuspecting customer.

Complain about it on at&t's Facebook page. The first person that contacts you probably won't be alot of help. They will eventually have someone else contact you. This person can help you. They gave me a $100 bill credit. I could have paid the balance of $582.99 plus tax but I chose to do the next 12 plan. So I paid $682.99 in order to do next and the $100 came off my monthly bill.

Well to update. I ended up going back and getting it. Really wanted to check it out and decided it was worth to walk out with it now. I hope its corrected still though. Now to run it through its paces before the 14 days are up. Like it so far. It is my first nexus device.

Mine was 249.99 with the 2 year contract.

$249.99 + $25 per month extra for 24 months = $849.99 + tax and upgrade / activation fees.

Best buy has the at&t n6 for 649 but the sprint n6 is 699 dosent make sense
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That's interesting, on Sprints website its 648.