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[Comparison] LG G Watch R Vs Moto 360

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Hey all
Lets take another look at the LG G Watch R, this time put it up against the Moto 360. Its still unsure on exactly which processor will be used in the Moto 360. There are rumors of it touting a Texas instruments chipset, but with that company bowing out of the market some time ago, the suggestion it may well run the same Snapdragon 400 chipset as the G watch R may well be true. For the purpose of this comparison, we will go with the Snapdragon 400, i will update when further info comes in:good: With both devices taking the same circular approach and similar hardware, the decision may not be so easy.​
Display Size:​
Just looking at the display size, the Moto 360 has the edge, with its 1.5" over the LG's 1.3"​
Display ppi:​
The LG has a superior resolution and a slightly smaller screen size resulting in a considerably higher ppi of ~277 PPI, over the Moto 360's ~205 pixel per inch ratio. How these numbers translate to use on a device worn on the wrist is yet to be seen, but clear winner is the LG.​
Display Type:​
The LG has a P-OLED display and Motorola sticking with the more traditional LCD technology. The P-OLED will result in the devices screen being far easier to read under direct sunlight, it also gives better contrast and color depth than the LCD. Winner, LG G Watch R.​
Processor, RAM:​
With both devices (possibly) packing the same chipset along with 512MB of RAM, this one is a draw.​
Heart Rate Monitor:​
Both devices feature a heart rate monitor, great for those of us who are active.​
Water/Dust Resistance:​
Both devices feature full IP67 certification. No worrying about your device while washing hands etc:victory:​
With both devices being so close in terms of hardware, at this point its down to preference over design. The screen technology used could be the killer feature, as reading the screen in sunlight for me is a must for any smartwatch. Looking forward to hearing members thoughts on these two devices:good:​
I will update this post as we get more info in:good:​

Nice comparison, great work! Now I can't wait to get my hands on them!

Am definitely aiming for the lg g watch r, not only because of the P-OLED display but also because the full area of the display is used (Motorola couldn't do that because of the ports)

dansou901 said:
Am definitely aiming for the lg g watch r, not only because of the P-OLED display but also because the full area of the display is used (Motorola couldn't do that because of the ports)
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Because of the what? lol there are no "ports".
They did it because the display technology is in that spot. LG got around it by putting the display tech in the bezel (like most TVs and phones do).

hotleadsingerguy said:
Because of the what? lol there are no "ports".
They did it because the display technology is in that spot. LG got around it by putting the display tech in the bezel (like most TVs and phones do).
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Yeah, was searching for the right word
Good to see more people here in this new forum...

No GPS in the LG?
And both heart rate monitors are practically unusable during e.g. running etc.

Hupsaflups said:
No GPS in the LG?
And both heart rate monitors are practically unusable during e.g. running etc.
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The moto doesnt have a GPS either, they just use the GPS in your phone via bluetooth.
As much as I love the 360, and as much as I keep trying to ignore the black bar, I just cant. Every single time I finish surfing through a dozen 360 pix I look at one pic of the R and immediately fall in love. They say the measurement of beauty is symmetry, and that stupid lower bezel completely disrupts the symmetry of the device. While all LG may have done is camouflaged it, I think their decision is still best.

A good start. Please add to the comparison:
- Battery life
- storage size
- Full 360 display
- Ease to root and ease to unlock the bootloader
- weight
- light sensor
- number of speakers
I know some details may not yet be available.
I would have purchased a 360 yesterday if not for it's terrible battery life. Which is worse than the pre-release review stated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2806528
From a 360 battery life thread:
robrob777 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGNEgDGvFr4
From 2:45 it had 69%
to 7:19 it had 64%
so around 1% PER MINUTE when it use!!!!
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
A good start. Please add to the comparison:
- Battery life
- storage size
- Full 360 display
- Ease to root and ease to unlock the bootloader
- weight
- light sensor
- number of speakers
I know some details may not yet be available.
I would have purchased a 360 yesterday if not for it's terrible battery life. Which is worse than the pre-release review stated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2806528
From a 360 battery life thread:
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1% per minute is obviously retarded, that would mean the watch is dead in less than 2 hours. These idiots need to quit averaging out usage since the battery drain is dynamic. CPU's throttle performance up/down on demand. If I drive around the city with the pedal to the metal my car will get 4mpg, does that mean I can therefore only drive 60 miles on a tank of gas?

RunNgun42 said:
1% per minute is obviously retarded, that would mean the watch is dead in less than 2 hours. These idiots need to quit averaging out usage since the battery drain is dynamic. CPU's throttle performance up/down on demand. If I drive around the city with the pedal to the metal my car will get 4mpg, does that mean I can therefore only drive 60 miles on a tank of gas?
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Read more reviews. The Moto 360 battery life is bad.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5903241/i-saw-a-moto-360-this-morning
http://online.wsj.com/articles/moto-360-review-one-size-doesnt-fit-all-1409896802
http://bgr.com/2014/09/05/moto-360-battery-life/
It has a smaller battery than the LG G Watch R.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Read more reviews. The Moto 360 battery life is bad.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5903241/i-saw-a-moto-360-this-morning
http://online.wsj.com/articles/moto-360-review-one-size-doesnt-fit-all-1409896802
http://bgr.com/2014/09/05/moto-360-battery-life/
It has a smaller battery than the LG G Watch R.
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And those same 3 sites are the biggest offenders pushing out this battery life garbage. The Verge and WSJ started this nonsense. I'll read the reviews of REAL people who are actually using it in REAL WORLD conditions, of which most are saying the battery life is either acceptable or better than expected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...discussion-t2806528/post55275122#post55275122
all the evidence you need

RunNgun42 said:
And those same 3 sites are the biggest offenders pushing out this battery life garbage. The Verge and WSJ started this nonsense. I'll read the reviews of REAL people who are actually using it in REAL WORLD conditions, of which most are saying the battery life is either acceptable or better than expected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...discussion-t2806528/post55275122#post55275122
all the evidence you need
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I've read through plenty of posts in that thread and can't agree with your blanket assessment. Especially given usage is key and I know what I need. It's your money and I'm happy with any decision you make with it. I'll take the near 30% larger battery and true 360 display, in a slightly smaller watch face.
Some other things to include in the comparison OP, port type and sensors.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I've read through plenty of posts in that thread and can't agree with your blanket assessment. Especially given usage is key and I know what I need. It's your money and I'm happy with any decision you make with it. I'll take the near 30% larger battery and true 360 display, in a slightly smaller watch face.
Some other things to include in the comparison OP, port type and sensors.
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I'm just saying the verge/WSJ reviews are patently false. There is no reasonable condition in which the watch will ever get less than 12 hours of life without intentionally going out of your way to drain it to death, and as a result they have started this **** storm of paranoia about battery life. Every youtube comment now talks about poor battery life because they saw someone else talking about poor battery life who got it from a forum post on another site that all invariably end up leading back to those 2 damn articles that came out at the same time. The problem is the verge/wsj have such high production value that people took their reviews as the gospel, thinking there's no way such a professional organization could completely botch a review for a product so badly.
When you watch these reviewers attempt to nagivate android wear it's clear they have no idea how the tile system or notification mirroring works. They had no business even touching these devices. It'll take weeks of homebrew review videos to surface online correcting their egregious errors before peoples faith in the device returns to normal.

More than 2, and they can't all be lying when it comes to the Moto 360 having battery life issues. It's too consistent a complaint and in forum threads there are complaints from the early adopters too. Yet more independent reviews, which again cite battery life issues:
http://mashable.com/2014/09/06/motorola-moto-360-review/
http://www.cnet.com/products/motorola-moto-360/
Motorola says 1 day of use. While the LG G Watch R with almost 30% more battery and a smaller screen is claimed to reach 1 - 2 days of use by LG. For some of us, due to our level of use. We never see the claimed battery life for any device and must consider a fraction of what is claimed. And for me, it's repeatedly confirmed.
It's very user dependent, but obvious I need to stir clear of the Moto 360 and consider the LG G Watch R. For those with less a need, I'm sure they'll enjoy the Moto 360.
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Here's an article that also does a "vs" comparison in similar fashion. It just covers a some more areas.
And this review of the Moto 360 does a true apples to apples test of its battery life, versus other available Android Wear devices, see page 2. The LG G Watch R is not included, since not yet available.

thanks for posting the link to the arstechnica article, just wanted to post that one myself
in addition, some more about the limited SoC of the Moto 360:
https://plus.google.com/+RonAmadeo/posts/C3rdRdEme9o
combining the 4 (!) year old SoC with a pretty small battery, why should it be hard to imagine that the battery would hold up all that good?
I was really hyped to get the Moto 360, but not anymore
still think it looks better than the LG G Watch R, but it won't hold up to my expectations, especially because i really want the ambient mode / screen always on (which btw looks great on the R: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFO5tCkI__w&feature=player_detailpage#t=134)

2k4ever said:
thanks for posting the link to the arstechnica article, just wanted to post that one myself
in addition, some more about the limited SoC of the Moto 360:
https://plus.google.com/+RonAmadeo/posts/C3rdRdEme9o
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And related: https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/STQoPCSmE5w
Yea, the truth sure is coming out for the Moto 360. And the truth is not looking good.

one more truth about the Moto 360: contrary to official communication, it doesn't seem to have a 320mAh battery but the battery is actually only 300mAh ???

2k4ever said:
one more truth about the Moto 360: contrary to official communication, it doesn't seem to have a 320mAh battery but the battery is actually only 300mAh ???
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Whatever it is, it can't hang with any other Android Wear Smart Watch. But the battery size has become a point of debate. Moto has released their excuse explanation. But some claim it's even less than 300mAh.
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I have one sitting on my wrist right now, and I can tell you the battery life is pretty bad...

[Analysis] This is the Huawei P8

The Huawei P8 is the brand new high range model presented by the Chinese company in May, a device with which doubtless they are pointing high, for its design and finished as well as for the chosen hardware.
We must bear in mind the big bet they did with the previous model (P7) which achieved quite poor results. By the other hand I must also say that those results were understandable due to the difference of performance with the main phones from the competitors.
Huawei is a very big and consolidated company, although not precisely known by being a smartphone manufacturer. A market where they've been working for years, improving yes. But not yet giving the stroke.
They are in fact missing something that other Chinese manufacturers (much smaller and unknown) are already doing: present a real flagship phone.
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If we look around the other brands, from the big players (Samsung Galaxy S6Edge, Apple iPhone 6 Plus, LG G4, Sony Xperia Z4/Z5, Lumia Cityman...) to the small and last arriving to the battle field (Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, OnePlus One, Meizu MX 4 Pro, uleFone BeTouch 2, Elephone P8000, UMI Iron...) they all have a unique device representing the company values and... all that the company is able to achieve (technologically and in terms of design speaking). So... why is Huawei taking so long? But most important, will the P8 be a real and worthy candidate?
Design
The new design is very different from the one used on the P7, they go away from the use of crystal surfaces and come closer to the trend of metal, each time more common in high range terminals.
In the front, the screen takes almost all the space (71,63% ratio screen-front), with the secondary camera, the light sensor and the speaker on the top... and without any physical button on the bottom part.
The left side is completely naked, nothing in there. Leaving the volume and power/lock buttons on the right side, where we will also find the slots for memory (microSD) and SIM. On the bottom side we have the plug for the USB cable and the hands free speaker, so we will find the jack connector for audio on the top side.
When we turn it down, on the rear part we find just the main camera (one of this device's treasures), which is completely integrated into the surface, not protruding even a little, together with the dual LED flash on the top, and the Huawei logo in the middle area.
The finished on aluminum results very elegant and fits very well on the hand, although the truth is that due to its big size of 5,2”, we will need both hands to manage comfortably the phone. Must also say that with just6,4mm of thickness the P8 takes the tittle of thinnest of its category.
Hardware
All the manufacturers have smarten up in the last months. Starting with the 64 bits processors that enhance the Android Lollipop experience and of course a good dose of RAM memory to ensure a good performance at every moment.
Model P8
OS Android 5.0 with EMUI 3.1
Processor Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 930, Octa core with 4 cores @2GHz and 4 more @ 1,5GHz
GPU Mali-T628 MP4
RAM 3GB
Screen 5,2” IPS LCD FullHD 1920x1080, offering a density of 424ppi with 16M colors
Storage 16GB of internal memory, expandable via microSD card
Cameras Main camera of 13 Mpx, OIS, sensor RBGW, Image Signal processor DSLR-level, 1080p video recording/1080p video playback; F2.0; Flash color temperature dual. 8 Mpx for the front camera
Connectivity Wi-Fi 2.4GHz b/g/n with Wi-Fi Direct support // BT 4.1+LE // MicroUSB (Hi-speed USB) ; TDD LTE: B38/B39/B40/B41 (2555MHz~2655MHz) // FDD LTE:B1/B3/B4/B7 // UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz(B8/B5/B4/B2/B1) // GSM :850/900/1800/1900MHz
Other sensors GPS/A-GPS/Glonass/BDS(BeiDou Navigation Satellite System)
G-Sensor, Gyroscope, Ambient light Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Compass, Accelerometer
Battery 2680mAh
Dimensions 144.9x72.1x6.4mm
Weight 144gr
Price Between 499€ y 520€.
What probably attires the most my attention is the use of a proprietary SoC (System on Chip), instead of using the popular Qualcomm Snapdragon or the (almost equally popular) more economic and with good performance MTK from Mediatek. This can be a very profitable point for Huawei, since if it works well, it will provide a great performance for the P8 , but also will show the sector that the Chinese brand can made competitive SoC, providing them with more revenue if other brands bet for using them.
Use, performance and battery
As starting point, outline that it comes with Android Lollipop 5.0, however it's equipped with the last version of Huawei customization layer, called EMUI 3.1.
From the first EMUI versions, the improvement on fluency and suer experience has been notorious, in addition to that, they have included (or improved) a few applications. However it also implies that we will find duplicated tasks and apps in our Android (something that not only happens with EMUI), meaning a bigger load of our system.
The truth is this can happen with any launcher we install, so while the performance and agility of the smartphone are good, it means no problem. Just remember that Android updates will take more time to reach us.
In the case of EMUI, it brings us an extra number of options to the ones included on any Android, so at the end we will have much more ways to adapt the device to our likes.
One of the main characteristics of this P8, comes precisely from its processor. Kirin 930 has the connectivity very present, so in every moment it can calculate and change to the network (data or wifi) which gives us more speed. For that, Huawei has equipped this model with 2 independent antennas, one of the top the other on the bottom, allowing the network change to be very fast.
Regarding the performance, the 64 bits of the Kirin 930 offer very high results, scoring higher than other models like the Galaxy Note S4 on AnTuTu benchmarks, and so, showing it can talks on equal terms to any terminal (mounting Exynos or Snapdragon). All the games, as well as FullHD videos are played smoothly... well with that hardware the remarkable news good be to have some kind of lag.
The 5,2” FullHD screen, maybe perceived as a weak point since other flagship models are starting to mount QHD panels. Nonetheless, viewing the clear quality of the image and the real density of pixels that we receive (424ppi) the experience is more than satisfactory, and surely it impacts on a lower power consumption.
Talking about the battery, after having tested a few smartphones with different battery capacity, I daresay 2680mAh are perhaps few. I have no doubts we will reach the end of the day, but a device of this category could easily have pointed to cross the 3000mAh barrier and, I'm sure any user would mind sacrificing a few tenths thick for that reason. Even though, Huawei promises one day and a half with standard usage.
Something to have in mind is that obviously when we demand it a lot (gaming or doing Skype for example) it becomes hotter, as well as any other smartphone. In this case, since it has that nice metal body and being so thin, the heat is distributed all over the smartphone surface, giving more feeling of warming than with other devices.
Cameras
This is, each time more, a critical point on every smartphone coming to the market. In order to achieve better results, manufacturers are choosing good sensors like the Sony IMX214. Nonetheless, we've already seen in many other cases that the sensor is not everything to take good pictures, imaging software is as important or even more (does anyone question the quality of 8Mpx sensor in the iPhone?)
In this case, Huawei has not share who's manufacturing the sensor or the camera, so we will simply focus on the result achieved by those 13Mpx.
The P8 comes with a optical stabilizer and has a few other improvements for low-light conditions, ultra fast shooting, or shooting without unlocking the device, time-lapse, panoramic pictures, etc. I cannot but congratulate them for the results shown, specially good when doing macro pictures. In general very sharp pictures almost without noise. True that the quality level delivered in the photography area was already very high with the Ascen Mate 7.
Even those low-light situations where almost all Chinese phones get out badly, the P8 takes very worthy pictures.
However, colors don't always look like I see on the reality, i t may be due to the dynamic range... or maybe because of the screen, in any case it's a clear point to improve.
Selfie lovers will be delighted with the 8Mpx front camera, in addition to the good quality , the device recognizes its owner face, and if we have enabled it, apply automatically some face-beauty filters when it detects it.
Finally, something very curious (and funny) is the function known as “light-painting”, capable of capturing the light during a pre-stablished time. So we can capture cars lights, stars moving,... or even what we draw using a lantern.
Conclusions
Huawei has chosen it as its 2015 flagship smartphone, so it's clear enough they have put all their talent on it, building a very serious and powerful device that can fearless face the main players of the season.
I have already mentioned the good performance, the screen quality and the great pictures we can take. In addition, the clear design and the metal finish give a premium image.
But (there are always buts), there are a few points to improve, starting by EMUI... which is not new. Every customization layer brings some differentiators over the competitors, but at the same time usually eats more resources and make the updates to arrive later. Huawei proposes some very interesting things on this version 3.1, and many users will like and use them. From my side, I would like it to be as any launcher available on the PlayStore, so if we don't like it, we can just remove it, but this is not the case.
On the other hand, the question with the heating, it's something known and not bad, but there will be a lot of users feeling their phone hotter than other models and will be worried about that.
Finally, which is at least for me the biggest fault... where is the fingerprint? If you really want to compete against the main players, don't forget to bring the same weapons. And almost all the high range smartphones nowadays have a fingerprint or TouchID sensor, as security mechanism.
It's a great terminal, meaning Huawei has received, analyzed and used all the feedback from previous models (specially P7) , also meaning they are working to bring their products where they see themselves.
The price varies depending on where we look for this phone and what extras we include on the package. Normally we should find it between 499€ and 520€. Don't forget to check if your order include shipping cost and other charges.
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What is your Imaginary/Dream phone?

Hey!
I'd liked to share a bit about mine. So what you'll see in this picture is a phone that I called "Omni ZenLynx" (I know, it's a bad name lol, but please bear with me), it has a somewhat "huge" specs inside. I can't photoshop so I draw it inside my 'drawbook' (that drawbook is actually a notebook ).
Specs:
- 25.4 Megapixels Camera
- 5.5" Display with 4K Resolution
- Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision Capabilities
- Sapphire Crystal body (front, rear, right, and left sides) and Magnesium Alloy (top and bottom side of the frame), 7 mm thick
- 4050 mah Battery
- 6GB/8GB RAM, 512GB Internal Storage
- Quad Core 3.2 GHz Processor
- AutoAdapt™ Pro technology, my own technology that makes camera, display, and audio of the phone automatically adapt to produce the best possible audio/imaging/viewing experiences without having to set anything by yourselves.
I think that's it for now, I hope it will come true and be even better. Excuse me for my bad english and maybe, my delusion :laugh:
Oh yeah, there are two pictures, one of them is what I've just made recently, and the other is my last year's creation that is my earlier sketch of this phone (the old design is too crowded and doesn't have many innovations to me). Then, I'm open to any constructive feedback and please don't judge me or my creation too harshly
What is your imaginary phone? Share it here!
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It must be stylish.
Screen 5.5 inch
8GB RAM
256GB Storage
Camera must have DSLR quality
Battery 6000 mAh

Android 7+ (Android only!!!!!)
Screen 4.5-5 inch
1920x1080
4GB RAM
64GB Storage
proc 821+
Qi
Battery 3000+

the ways things are goin
my dream phone is one that dont hardware bootloop battery doesnt explode and has a unlocked bootloader

- 5.5-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit widescreen Multi-Touch display with IPS technology
- 13-megapixel iSight® camera with Optical Image Stabilization
- A8 chip with 64-bit architecture.
- 1080p HD video recording
- Battery 4000
Magento Website Development
hire magento developer
Magento installation

My dream phone is the one which is may be solar powered and is not battery / charge dependant. Scratch Proof. Unbreakable screen. Space available in TBs instead of GBs. High Resolution. High RAM. And last but not least, an ability for the phone to be able to read my eyes and scroll up and down or click a certain button based on my eye lens focus when I am busy with my toddler.

The April Fool's joke of XDA. I love it and I hope it will be soon crowdfunded.
Sent from either my Galaxy S7Edge or my Galaxy Core

A new Sony Ultra Z with updated hardware.

AlvinZahran98 said:
Hey!
I'd liked to share a bit about mine. So what you'll see in this picture is a phone that I called "Omni ZenLynx" (I know, it's a bad name lol, but please bear with me), it has a somewhat "huge" specs inside. I can't photoshop so I draw it inside my 'drawbook' (that drawbook is actually a notebook ).
Specs:
- 25.4 Megapixels Camera
- 5.5" Display with 4K Resolution
- Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision Capabilities
- Sapphire Crystal body (front, rear, right, and left sides) and Magnesium Alloy (top and bottom side of the frame), 7 mm thick
- 4050 mah Battery
- 6GB/8GB RAM, 512GB Internal Storage
- Quad Core 3.2 GHz Processor
- AutoAdapt™ Pro technology, my own technology that makes camera, display, and audio of the phone automatically adapt to produce the best possible audio/imaging/viewing experiences without having to set anything by yourselves.
I think that's it for now, I hope it will come true and be even better. Excuse me for my bad english and maybe, my delusion :laugh:
Oh yeah, there are two pictures, one of them is what I've just made recently, and the other is my last year's creation that is my earlier sketch of this phone (the old design is too crowded and doesn't have many innovations to me). Then, I'm open to any constructive feedback and please don't judge me or my creation too harshly
What is your imaginary phone? Share it here!
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Ill second it patent it. Ill order one

Very slim and transparent with holo functions.

A Smartphone with a hologram function, Thought control and with a good Battery Life time.

Xperia Play 2 with SD 835 or better.
Please let my dream become reality.

An Android phone with 2 partitions.
One is the main partition. Can be modified (e.g. Custom ROM, Kernel, Recovery, etc.)
Other is safe partition. Cannot be modified and can only be accessed when something is wrong with the main partition. Just in case the main partition gets corrupted when flashing, it will boot up to the safe partition to restore the main partition files. Preventing hard bricks.

Right Now "Google Pixel"

any phone with a 10 day battery life

TheMadScientist420 said:
Ill second it patent it. Ill order one
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I want to but don't know how to patent it lol. I'll be happy if you order one when it becomes available
Parsram said:
Awesome design. Patent your design
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Thanks for your kind words! I will but I don't know how do I patent them lol.
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Well I have some new designs and features to talk about, I took an inspiration from S8's launch and I'll share it tomorrow

Probably something like Google Glass with some improvements

Omni™ ZenCaelum™
-149.3 x 68.8 x 7 mm body, 90.44% screen-to-body ratio, 141 grams light, Sapphire Crystal front and rear, Magnesium Alloy frame (top and bottom), Stainless Steel frame (right and left).
- 23MP Camera, UltraGraph™ EYE Camera Module, 1/1.9" Sensor size, 2.4 μm pixel size, Xenon flash, OIS, AutoAdapt™ Pro.
- 6" Display, 4500 x 2250 Resolution in 16:8 Aspect Ratio, HDR-enabled (class 12), 829 ppi, UltraView™ VISION Display Module, OLED Panel, Advanced Depth Sensing, Dolby® Vision, 4K ReelFeel™ Pro (Advanced HDR Upscaler).
- 6GB RAM, 128GB UFS Internal Storage, up to 2TB External Storage.
- Dolby® Atmos, Adaptive Audio, 4K FLAC HiRes Audio, Dual Invisible Stereo Speakers (Similar technology to Sony BRAVIA OLED TV), UltraHear™ ECHO Audio Module, DSEE HX, Deep Audio Sensing Technology (DAST).
- Lithium Ion, 4300 mAh Battery, Flexible and thin Battery Design, so it could have a larger capacity battery without increasing the size of the battery and phone themselves, Advanced Thermal Control.
Omni™ ZenHilex™
This is actually inspired by MI MIX, but its bezels are much smaller and has a transparent display
it only has 0.5 mm bezel around the display (except for the bottom bezel which is around 13 mm). Speaking about bottom bezel, that bottom bezel is actually what I called "Core unit" because it is a modular (interchangeable) module that has a huge battery (4500 mAh) and again, it is flexible, then there's also a processor, graphic unit, a primary speaker, and basically every other components in the core unit.
(I know it is impossible to create lol)
You could twist the core unit (I mean it works like Nokia 5700 XpressMusic where you could twist the bottom side), it actually has a single camera a bottom left corner but I forgot to add it, so if you want to take a picture as rear camera, you could twist the core unit.
That's all, again, I'm open to critiques, so feel free.

I would like to have a phone which has every cool features and which can work with any Android system and should be future proof

When I see OP, I thought, wow my old design looks bad, so I made a new one
This is called Omni ZenVega, it has 5.8" display in 142 x 72 x 8 mm body (I've calculated everything and this is already perfect). So it has a mind-blowing 90.65% screen-to-body ratio.
It has a 13 MP rear camera with 1/1.7" sensor size and 2 µm pixel size, it has dual 12 MP Motion Sensing Cameras too, beside its primary camera, but it has a smaller sensor and pixel size.
It also has a new sophisticated technology/feature called Edge Motion Surface, this new sensor-based surface is placed at the edge (frame) of the phone, it is a motion, pressure, and gesture-based device controls to control volume, power on/off, music, camera, and more, this technology lets this phone to be the world's first buttonless phone, yes.. A smartphone with NO BUTTON. This phone has a Natural Body Language Recognition System so you don't have to worry about accidental touches on the frame.
The phone's front and back are made of Sapphire Crystal, top and bottom sides of the frame are made of Reinforced Ceramic, and left and right sides of the frame are made of Stainless Steel that is mixed with another alloy.
Feel free to download the attached full phone specifications below, there are a lot of things and terms that you might not understand but yeah it's my world
Notes:
- Zerstonhornde Electricalism is the company name (I know, this is a bad name, but I'll figure out a simpler and better name, since that name has been into my mind since I was a little kid).
- Omni is the company's product series name (like Galaxy on Samsung, Xperia on Sony, and more).
- You might notice that there is a currency called UR$ and 'country' names listed there, just ignore them because those are also my imaginary countries, please don't judge me too harshly.

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A beauty behold !
It's been eight days I BOUGHT it
USED it for alot of time until now.
COLOR is Midnight Black (personally wanted this, although other colors were tempting too)
Things that necessarily require mentions:
Network Bands (4g,3g,2g)
The network strength is perfectly fine, the signal doesn't fool. It correctly takes the receptivity to the exact extent needed, you wont loose any even in remote areas. If an iphone user has a network strength like one bit in his notification bar, you too are having surely. So, here network isn't a problem with this phone.
The Weight
In today world, we could be of carrying any weights, but when it comes to the phones, the weight really matters. If it's above 180g, boy, take it in written, so much pain in hand, soo much when talking calls, soo much in holding it straight infront. Soo much in pocket too. This phone instead is only 149g, which is excellently lightweight. The utmost benefit would be for people who waited for a phone which had good specs and stands equal to others of its range aswell. For the lightweight phones preferring people, finally the wait is over
Body Built
A strong phone doesnt mean an awesome phone. A weak phone doesnt mean poor quality. Firstly, one should know there is no such thing like strong or weak in phones of major brands. It is purely specs that decide to the needs of people and make phones accordingly. This phone has Severely flaunting looks. Totally an eye catcher. The glass back is soo beautiful & makes you want to look at it rather than looking at the screen most of the time
Display Screen
The 18:9 ratio is more than you can ask for in this phone. I mean, you are getting a 428ppi screen, what more do you want expect that huge clarity and detail in this price range and phone screen This looks more crisp than the any other budget phones, i guarantee you baby, its 428ppi, you donno how good the screen gets when its 428. Most of the phones were 403ppi and looked already good enough. This is much better now.
Platform
You are not in line, like before a person or after a person. You are right next to each other, like holding hands. Which means, you are in such a thing called " Happiness comes in all sizes and quantities :victory:." Because, its HiSilicon Kirin 659 in all the phones of the honor budget class range. Which would benefit you highly in performing without causing any complexities. Games are good to play, if one knows how to tweak better, then it's kickass
Memory
4GB and 64GB, is more than enough and perfect. You wont require more for this processor and budget.
Camera
This is the core purpose of this phone. Damn, the photos are soo good, sooooo good that you will for the first time find yourself have a true "Wow" reaction on your face when you snap them. Selfies are great aswell. People mentioned alot in the comments session in major sellers websites that the nighttime shots are horrible in the rear camera. You should know one thing, you aren't carrying a DSLR or HandyCAM, its your phone. its primary utility was to communicate. You are wrong to expect it to do well in a lowlight location. Not even a DSLR with a flash can be capable of better picture quality. Even professionals use heavy lights for the good feel in a photo when movies are made. So, a phone you are expecting to do this night capable photography job is totally a myth. Think once, there is no point of expecting some heavy landscape photography over night. Even James Cameron would shoot his film in the day with soo expensive cameras. If still you arent happy then when it's night time you want to snap something, its not phone you require, that's surveillance camera you need to carry with yourself having night vision lens :laugh:
Sound
That's loud. You will be totally fine with it. Just as loud as it can fit in there. Music has clarity and crispness, bass isn't an element for music through speakers, earphones does the job well if someone needed bass.
Software
The Android 8.0 is soo well designed, it would understand your interests. Even would show you few that you wouldn't have imagined to find them in phone. There are all the modifications possibly existing in every popular custom ROM readily available in this honor phone stock ROM itself. The settings hold various toggles to change according to your liking. Below they are listed...
Huawei ID It takes care of backing up all the contacts, messages, calender and necessary stuff to the cloud provided by Huawei.
Wireless & Networks Lte, VoLTE configurations can be modified, data usage with specific networked apps is added advantage.
Apps & Notifications Apps to uninstall or disable, enable is available. Default apps, App twin & notification mods such as network meter, etc are here too.
Battery setting In this option, there is a power saving mode that can give you more than 4days standby if stuck to only few basic utilities with the phone.
Display setting Eye Comfort which can exchange color of screen to cool, warm feel. Screen resolution modification which is only in honor that enables to reduce screen density which can result in great power save.
Storage setting You get around 52GB free out of 64GB internal space. The RAM Management is nice too. There is always somehow 2.4GB RAM remaning in 4GB available though around 13apps are in the multitasking window. The software of honor does the RAM allocation very well for tasks processing.
Security & Privacy Fingerprints soo fast (0.25sec), file safe to hide files, App lock, Screen Pinning.
Smart Assistance setting Double tap to wake screen or lock screen.
System setting inside here, there are data transfer, backup & restore, reset, update, etc.
Themes These look soo beautiful and give a punchy look to the phone.
The Magazine Lockscreen This is the best part of the phone when you unlock, the pictures are soo beautiful that just by looking at them, your mind strikes at wow which really is relaxing and refreshing all the time you want them.
Navigation Buttons the onscreen buttons can be exchanged places from right to left which is way convenient for southpaw's.
Battery & Power Consumption
The moderate usage of phone can last a whole day, from 100% in the morning, you can use the phone till next day until same time u charged if you are only on 4g data usage and checking messages, attending calls, by then your battery will be around 10%. In the night, the percentage of drop in non usage is only 2% which is super less. The charging time is alot, but there's something honor's very concerned about, it takes alot of time to charge because, the module of charge input itself is designed by honor in such a way it takes charge slowly (Not to mistake as snail slow) to not spoil the battery life. Hence, this doesn't heat up phone very much. It keeps cool and does its job CooL without messing around. It takes 2hrs15min for full charge. This is same with many mobiles, almost 2hr15min is common with most mobiles.
Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, OTG are all working flawlessly too.
Frankly speaking, cost is soo low, quality we get is really good, more than pleasing for the price we pay for.
Mentions that need to be considered:
I know the camera in our phone is enough capable to get the exact software enhancements i find in HonorV10 Camera app. I clearly see honor is trying to limit these enhancements for the sake people would fall dull that they invested double the price and got exactly the same software loaded in half priced model (which is ours). Sure, many people might question this out. But, Please, middle class people require somebody to bother them. It's us who suffer the loss or gain equally and still keep calm without having no other choices rather than to convince ourselves we cant get more, nobody cares. The rich complain, they sue, you bother them. We request, we ask things soo much, we are many & loud but unheard (-_-) , you have established soo well in our country market this time, the what we have lost (beauty, power, feel ) in xiaomi phones, we found in yours. Your phones made us feel alive. I felt soo good looking at my Honor 9 Lite, it was worth all the effort you put on. I didnt even buy a Xiaomi phone for myself until date, i felt like us were being played by that company. It didnt feel good. They sold cheap stuff with good software tweaks. It was Hugo Barra who designed software, only because of this Xiaomi phones were a hit. You lagged at it alot in the past until Honor 6X. I never bought any Xiaomi device, i loved the Honor 4x, but found there were no updates. But this time you came superawesome into the market, your software is wayyy better than Xiaomi in looks and feel, all that it finally require is bug fixes, proper tweaks to utilize the whole capacity of the hardware, you do everything from scratch and created us this antique designed masterpiece phones. You should be proud. All you require is massive tweaking in the software, thats all. The processor's are superb, the screen buttersmooth, sound clear crisp and loud. Its the tweaking that's missing. I really wish honor this time you keep alot of effort in giving us customers in the country who bought your phones a huge happy smile. Ask how?? Here's how, we like gifts, gift us like 2 or 3days before festivals an OTA update that solves all the bug issues in our honor phones and then look at the news, scroll down, check the comments session. You would be very well liked. We'd then even feel honored to have had you bothering us and all together. Straight outta heart, we would be TRULY overjoyed that you did care for us this time on.
Dear Honor,
The world is a happy place for as long you, atleast hereafter consider to help us better .​​

It's the best you can get for the price with some small compromises
Let's start with not so good stuff before we get on to the great stuff!
I've got the 3GB variant and Midnight Black Color, I'm using it now for about 23 days.
Memory Management - Well the RAM/Memory management on this device is very aggressive, Here's how I was watching some dope stuff on YouTube and few Minutes in and I got a call and was talking for about 15 - 20 Mins and after the call ended, I was hoping the youtube app will be in the same state I left it! But, no The app was closed completely and I had to relaunch the app again, and also if you are running music in the background you get this stupid notification saying the app is running in the background and drains battery which can annoy anyone!
Hopefully, they will fix these in future software updates.
And (Not sure whether it's the Memory management or the app's problem), I'm running NOVA Launcher as default After 2 or 3 days, it automatically switched back to the default Launcher, well this only happened twice and after that, I didn't face this problem anymore, I thought it was worth mentioning.
Camera - Well the only thing that I felt weird was with the rear camera when I switched to Portrait mode or Wide Aperture mode It Changed the Resolution to 8MP, but the same with the front camera it was 13MP and there is no option to switch to 13MP, and maybe that's why most of the Tech YouTubers say the front cam of this device is good then the rear.
And also I wish it had EIS hopefully, in future software update we will get it!
It would really help the video quality!
Well, that's the things that annoyed me the most, now let's get to the good stuff!
Design and Build Quality - Well, you might have heard a lot about this, but the device screams Premium, They have nailed the design with this device, it's absolutely gorgeous and It's really light to hold tho, some people may like it, and people like me may want a heavy device (Personal preference).
OS and UI - Well it's really smooth didn't have any lag issues or any of such kind, it's snappy and didn't face any heating issues or so, the only thing is RAM management which I mentioned it earlier and apart from that, it's really good.
Battery and charging speed - I could easily get through a day, I have no complaints about the battery it's really good and I'm happy with it. From 20% to 100% the charging time it took was somewhere around 1hr 15 mins to 1hr 40mins, which is reasonable for a 3000mAh battery, it doesn't support fast charging but I don't think that's an issue as I can get a day's worth of battery and I have no complaints about it, But I did wish it had a Type - C port, it's fine not a big issues but it could've had a Type - C
Speaker and Headphone output - The speaker is loud and clear, there is no Distortion at full volume, there is a bit bass which you can feel and its' good but a finger can cover it and the whole sound can be lost, that's the only issue and that's the issue with all mono down facing speaker.
And for the headphone output, I don't own a premium headset, I have a cheap one and it worked fine with it, it was loud and clear.
Call and Network - Call quality was really good, No issues Tried with Jio, Vodafone and BSNL didn't face any issues, the receiver was able to hear me clear and loud and the data was also at a good speed and with 4G it didn't affect the battery much as I thought it would, Wifi Bridge is one of the really cool features and it works really good.
and Finally
Camera - Well I've already told the problem I faced apart from that I don't have any issues,
It focuses really fast and also takes photos really fast, it's super snappy! I really loved the quality of images that I got in this price segment.
The Pro Photo and Pro Video mode are really good if you know to use them well, There are several other modes The food mode is also good and Timelapse is awesome.
Well, the front cam in portrait mode does fail sometimes to recognize people's face if there are more than 2 persons in the shot, it just happens sometimes and not every time. And I wish it had a Slo-Mo Mode tho.
The images are of really good quality tho, good enough to post on Social Networking sites.
Conclusion - I think it worth the money I paid, It does have some minor issues which can be fixed via Software Update apart from that it's a really good device and I'm Lovin it.
PS - I had actually added images and since I'm a new member XDA doesn't allow new users to post links.

Not very impressed with the Honor 9 Lite.
I did online research and read lots of review on the Honor 9 Lite.
What convinced me was a comparison some reviewer did with his current daily driver, a 1+3t, and was, as he put it, 'pleasantly surprised'. Since my current daily driver is also a 1+3t I relented and bought one, the 3+32GB version.
After using the Honor 9 Lite I don't think it comes anywhere close to a 1+3t. Now I appreciate and understand that it is cheaper than my 1+3t (even at its current value) but I'm not very impressed, especially with the way EMUI 8 completely rapes Android stock ! I knew this going in but never realised to what extent EMUI restrict customisation.
Let me give examples.
1. First thing I always do with every phone i buy is disabled all apps I don't need/use. Some of the apps on the Honor 9 Lite are cooked in and without root cannot be disables, frozen or removed; e.g. Files, Huawei Mobile Service, Themes.
2. Next thing is to replace any homelauncher with my favourite 'Nova'. Well as soon as you do this on the 9Lite you get a pop-up message stating something like 'changing home launcher uses more battery'...What ? Anyway you can force it through and then just change the default home launcher to Nova. Then some of the EMUI widgets, like weather, don't work anymore. That's ok, I expected that, what I did not expect is for it to show up as available but when you try to add it to your homescreen you get a FC and Huawei launcher is back, in effect removing your default launcher you just set.
3. Huawei badges also obviously don't work under Nova; again as expected.
4. Next I fired up Chronus widget so i can get a replacement for the now non-working Huawei weather service (which at least you can disable). Chronus now does not update the alarm. So you set an alarm in clock but Chronus does not pick up the changee unless you go into chronus change something and save it. This was even after i loaded up Google clock and set alarm through that.
All the above works flawlessly in my Oreo based 1+3t.
5. Lag..yes it is a lot worse than my 1+3t, now like i said because of the price difference i did not expect the Kirin659 to be on par with the Snapdragon 821 but the lag difference was much more noticable on the Honor9 lite than i expected.
6. Since Nova was basically non functional I had to return to Huawei's own launcher.
7. No way of hiding status bar. By the way I also tried play store apps, like GMD Full Screen, but it did not work properly.
8. Battery life is one day on normal use.
9. Cameras are acceptable but no better than my single camera 1+3t.
Conclusion:
Not impresssed, it looks great, weight is spot on for me, size is also great so is the screen brightness, but everything else is nothing special and that EMUI8 man, it just restricts you from most customisation which is the reason we all love android. If i wanted restrictions i would have gone for an iphone.
Why should i have to unlock BL and root to be able to do simple things like use full immersive mode. I'd like to keep android pay functioning so don't want to unlock,root and battle with magidisk to hide root. I just want control back of my phone.
Anyway, thought i would put this together outlining my experience with the Honor 9Lite, hopefully yours will be better and find acceptable.

Well, I bought this device as my ex-device was quite old enough(I was using grand 2 as my daily driver).Next,when I was searching for new devices,I was looking for a device which is better in all aspects(camera,looks,sound,performance,signal quality) and also in a moderate price.Then I stumbled across Honor 9 Lite.It was the old phone in my budget range which was able to cater to my demands.It looks gorgeous as ever.The glass body,its colour (I got the Sapphire blue one) and its modern looks with minimal borders made me order the phone without even checking for other details(I already knew it supports 4G and fingerprint sensor) .When I got the phone,I found that it is not too heavy but is indeed slippery due to glossy back,so I applied the cover to increase friction and to prevent falling .
These are the following pros and cons of the phone I found:-
PROS
1.Camera->Both the front and back cameras are awesome and can even capture good amount of detail even in low light condition.Maybe the 4 cameras(2 in pairs does the trick)
2.Android OS->Being latest is the best.This device packs with Android Oreo which many 2017 flagships like S8(they got it but Samsung removed the OTA update) haven't recieved properly
3.Processor->I haven't heard about this processor's name earlier but was shocked by its insane frequency(greater than 2 Ghz) so I decided to do an Antutu benchmark and found that this processor's performance is comparable with Snapdragon 625.
4.Display->Display is awesome.Nothing to say about it
5.Battery->Battery life is a bit-tad low (It lasts 9 hrs for me),so I need to charge atleast once a day.No fast charging support and no USB C was a dissappointment
6.Storage and Ram management-Plenty of Ram(3 GBs) and storage(around 22 GBs),so no complaints there

General Initial impressions & photo samples (CN ROM)

I've used my new Mi 11 Ultra (CN rom) for over 48 hours now and just wanted to say I'm very impressed so far. It's the first time I've used a Xiaomi device in over a decade and I previously had a Huawei P40 Pro for over a year. I ordered mine from TradingShenzhen and it took 9 days in total to land on my doorstep.
Screen: Amazing. Bright in sunlight, sharp, clear and just what you'd expect from an E4 screen. They weren't kidding when they said it can max out at 1700 nits if you really wanted to set it to that. Doesn't use a LTPO panel like the S21 Ultra does which would've made it even more power efficient but I suppose you can't have everything. Also, I wouldn't call the secondary screen a gimmick, but its features are certainly very limited at present so I've just put the default clock on and left it there.
Performance: Very fast. 12GB of LPDDR5 and the cooling system seem to be doing their job well as I remember Xiaomi pointing out that the SD888 runs hot on a lot of other devices in the market during their launch event.
I ran some benchmarks as shown below for curiosity and couldn't be happier with the numbers I was able to bench on it. I know real-world situations are more important but it's interesting to see the scores imho. I don't play a lot of games but I am a heavy social media user as well as happen to use my phone for work, so I do appreciate how snappy and quick everything is.
Cameras: One of the best I've seen to date, but sometimes I've noticed it's still not always consistent and reliable. Nonetheless the mains sensor captures a lot of detail due to its sensor size in almost all scenarios. You do get a really good natural bokeh effect too when shooting subjects up close, the ultrawide angle is incredibly wide at 12mm and Night mode shots are probably the best I've seen so far. The zoom is really great even though 10x optical would've been nice to have (even night mode zoom shots are decent due to its IMX586's 1/2" sensor size).
My housemate has an iPhone 12 Pro Max and I've found her phone to just be a bit more reliable and consistent. Occasionally I need to manually turn on HDR mode too as the AI won't toggle that on or maybe I'm just used to my previous phone's 'scene optimizer' feature automatically doing that for me and this behaviour of the Mi 11 Ultra is intended.
Another thing I've noticed is that camera module itself seems to get hot easily even just from taking photos. I'm not referring to taking shots back-to-back constantly or even recording videos and the shutter speed seems to have some minor 'lag' to it too which is hard to describe which is a bit annoying.
I'm hoping some software updates and optimizations will address this issue as we are still on very early firmware where none of the recent builds have specifically mentioned camera improvements from what I've noticed.
Call reception/signal: LTE, 5G and cellular speeds seem superior to my Huawei P40 Pro and when I try putting in my SIM to an IPhone 12 Pro Max, I get higher download speeds than that too. VOLTE and WiFi calling all working as intended for my carrier (EE).
Battery life: I still haven't fully stress tested it properly but the 5000mAh battery is looking good so far. Easily 7-8 hours (YMMV) SOT with 120hz, but at FHD+ due to personal preference. I didn't buy the official Xiaomi 67w wired charger as I already have a working 65w PD 3.0 from Amazon instead which works well (got over 75% in 30mins).
Build quality/feel: Love the ceramic rear back which you don't find on most flagships nowadays and even though it weighs a hefty 239g, it just screams quality to me as I'm used to big phones even though I have medium-sized hands. The camera bump is big and it's definitely going to be a dealbreaker or dealmaker for those who either like or dislike the look. I personally don't mind it since it's so unique looking.
Overall impressions: I'm a happy user (and customer!) and look forward to a couple of software updates which I hope will iron out a few issues/bugs I've encountered. The global version would've been cool to have but after spending several hours debloating, customizing and getting used to MIUI 12, it feels great and I've got no problems staying with the CN ROM since my carrier's bands are all supported on it and Google Pay is working too.
What I like
+ Beautiful and bright Samsung E4 panel with 120hz support
+ One of the faster SD888 phones out there with less throttling problems
+ First device to use the new Samsung GN2 main sensor and it captures so much detail
+ A huge battery with support for aftermarket PD 3.0 charging (I used a RavPower 65w charger)
+ Looks and smells premium and solid all-round with the Ceramic rear back and Gorilla Glass Victus on the front and back
+ MIUI 12 on the whole and its stock launcher is very speedy - I didn't need to replace it with Nova in the end
What I dislike
- Some annoying bugs/issues which I hope will be fixed soon: camera shutter button lags sometimes, the camera gets very hot quickly, my WiFi automatically goes to sleep after I turn off the screen despite turning off all battery optimization and restrictions under battery and app management settings and I can't record videos in the self-view of the secondary rear screen
- No 10x optical zoom (120x shouldn't be taken too seriously) - the 10x hybrid is still more than good enough for the most part
- Photos taken from the ultrawide's edges and corners are a bit soft and there's slightly more barrel distortion compared to my Huawei P40 Pro as well as my housemate's iPhone 12 Pro Max
- CN ROM had more junk than I expected - I had to use ADB/Fastboot Tools and SDK Platform Tools to debloat my phone and check which apps/processes were safe to remove and which were not
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Thanks for your initial review. How reliable is Xiaomi for updates - especially the camera lag & heating up of the cam module? Those are serious enough issues.

Thanks!
Can you please share sample images in 2X zoom?
I can't find any. I loved the 50mm lens on the Mi 10 Pro and was wondering how well this camera handles 2X.
Thanks!!!

shethsa said:
Thanks for your initial review. How reliable is Xiaomi for updates - especially the camera lag & heating up of the cam module? Those are serious enough issues.
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I've gotten about 3 updates since I bought it, mainly UI improvements and a few other quality of life changes. I'm also on the April 2021 Security patch already so I'm very happy with the pace so far.
The camera lag isn't too bad, I may have made it sound worse than it is as it doesn't always happen and seems to more of an animation/UI stutter than anything as it does end up taking the photo anyway.

Thanks for the thoughts. Great stuff.
The "shutter lag" has been discussed in a few videos, seems as you thought. It's an animation issue, the camera is actually taking the pictures quick enough.
Is there any other UK Sims you can try? Interested if the likes of ID and SKY will work with WiFi calling etc as they are the most limited usually.
Cheers.

mgbosshogg said:
Thanks for the thoughts. Great stuff.
The "shutter lag" has been discussed in a few videos, seems as you thought. It's an animation issue, the camera is actually taking the pictures quick enough.
Is there any other UK Sims you can try? Interested if the likes of ID and SKY will work with WiFi calling etc as they are the most limited usually.
Cheers.
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Yes, you're right. The lag I'm seeing is not too much of a dealbreaker as I'm sure it can be fixed via an update.
I have a Vodafone UK SIM from my work iPhone I've tried it with too. Unfortunately, I don't get VOLTE or 4G+/LTE no matter what settings I try but I do get VOWIFI and 5G on it. It might be because of the firmware/modem settings from what I've heard which stops me from getting 4G+/LTE.
I also tried a BT SIM too but as that piggybacks on to EE's network, I do get VOLTE, VOWiFi, 4G+/LTE without any issues.

galr said:
Thanks!
Can you please share sample images in 2X zoom?
I can't find any. I loved the 50mm lens on the Mi 10 Pro and was wondering how well this camera handles 2X.
Thanks!!!
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Here you go. I deliberately took the last two photos in those lighting conditions to see how it'd behave.

1x, 2x
1x, 5x, 10x

Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.

galr said:
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
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I'll take some more shots when I go outside as well.

galr said:
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
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Added a couple more samples.

kyero985 said:
Added a couple more samples.
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Thanks again!

kyero985 said:
Added a couple more samples.
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Brilliant. Thanks.

I took some various shots around town today.
Auto settings and AI mode enabled as before but this time I'm on 12.5.4 CN stable. I'm very happy with the results and can't wait for even more camera improvements.
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Hi, I've the Pro version and was debloating like yourself, have you managed to get Hey Google to work? Not sure if I disabled anything for it to be greyed out but works fine if you click on the microphone icon.
Also are you staying on the cn rom?

wilpang said:
@kyero985
Hi, I've the Pro version and was debloating like yourself, have you managed to get Hey Google to work? Not sure if I disabled anything for it to be greyed out but works fine if you click on the microphone icon.
Also are you staying on the cn rom?
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Heya, I don't know as I don't like using voice assistants in general I'm afraid, so I actually got rid of that as part of my debloating spree.
Yes, I'll be staying on the CN ROM because it tends to receive OTA stable (and even stable beta) updates quicker. I don't want to worry about the unlocking, flashing and other update processes as I'd rather keep it simple even if the weekly EU ROM for instance has extra features and quality of life improvements. I'm very happy with my SOT and battery life now that I've removed everything I don't want on my phone now

kyero985 said:
Heya, I don't know as I don't like using voice assistants in general I'm afraid, so I actually got rid of that as part of my debloating spree.
Yes, I'll be staying on the CN ROM because it tends to receive OTA stable (and even stable beta) updates quicker. I don't want to worry about the unlocking, flashing and other update processes as I'd rather keep it simple even if the weekly EU ROM for instance has extra features and quality of life improvements. I'm very happy with my SOT and battery life now that I've removed everything I don't want on my phone now
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I know what you mean, had the same amount updates as yourself on 12.5.4 or something like that just trying to get everything the way I like as per my last Oneplus device.

Can you guys confirm that Mi 11 Pro also has Dxomark camera update ? That the main sensor is same as ultra ? I've heard that software is different. Even though the main sensor is same.

OPOmaniac said:
Can you guys confirm that Mi 11 Pro also has Dxomark camera update ? That the main sensor is same as ultra ? I've heard that software is different. Even though the main sensor is same.
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There has been a comparison here pre update

A sample of picture taken in lowlight direct facing light source. You can see the text behind