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Pocketnow Review

Pocketnow has posted a 11+ minute review on the Nexus 7. Brandon did a pretty good job describing the pros and cons of the device and the tablet received a very good score overall. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiu7_Auqyg&feature=g-all-u. The negatives were a washed out/dull screen and it takes over 7 hours to charge the device from 0-100%.

I could not stand that guy's voice. That and it looked like he was constantly mashing the screen just for the sake of it.
Personal opinion.

I'm a bit nervous about the washed out screen. Coming from both a Galaxy Nexus and an iPad 3 I felt the Transformer series screens were all lacking in color vibrancy. I guess I'll have to wait and find out!

Strange that his takes 7 hours to charge, other reviews like ubergizmo say 3 hours.

jabsys said:
Strange that his takes 7 hours to charge, other reviews like ubergizmo say 3 hours.
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7 hours over USB could be right, but surely not plugged into the mains.

I think the Anandtech mini-review explains the screen issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
The big thing is his note that the greens seem undersaturated, which will make it appear dull. Plus comparing it to a phone isn't apples to apples because it is a different type of panel due to the need for greater viewing angles. I'd personally lose a bit of color vibrancy if it meant that I wouldn't have to hold it at a precise angle to be able to read it.

Really? People dislike the screen now? The day it was released at I/O everyone was complimenting it and saying that it looked great. It even looks good in videos.

>I'm a bit nervous about the washed out screen.
The comparison was to an AMOLED screen, which is stupid, since AMOLED is known to be oversaturated and brighter than most LCDs. He's comparing a $500 device (Galaxy Nexus) to a $200 device.
Comparison at 2:50 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiu7_Auqyg&t=170
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>7 hours over USB could be right, but surely not plugged into the mains.
Given the ill-advised comparison with AMOLED, dude has little credibility.
There are many variables in charging. He's had the unit 3-4 days, and likely has only one full charge for the review. The first charge cycle can be weird.
N7 is very similar to Fire. The Fire has a 4.4Ah batt, and a [email protected] charger. From TomsHardware, Fire has 0-100% recharge time of 2:48. Other sources say as long as 5 hrs.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amazon-kindle-fire-review,3076-14.html
N7 has a slightly smaller batt at 4.3Ah, and a slightly stronger [email protected] charger (same as iPad). Recharge time should be same or slightly less than Fire.
With his competence, dude probably used a standard cellphone (1.0A) charger.

Is it me.. or that video was so choppy that I just couldn't take it seriously

e.mote said:
He's comparing a $500 device (Galaxy Nexus) to a $200 device.
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The Galaxy Nexus is only $350.

My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.

lovenokia said:
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
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Everyone's unit will have a choppy browser unless Google patch through and update for chrome before the n7 is shipped. Think I will just download dolphin browser until its fixed. Oh and I did like this review but I just thought anandtech was better.
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androidkid311 said:
Everyone's unit will have a choppy browser unless Google patch through and update for chrome before the n7 is shipped. Think I will just download dolphin browser until its fixed. Oh and I did like this review but I just thought anandtech was better.
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I hope the dolphin web browser will be ipad smooth, i really need a good browsing device, cause i ruined the processor on my hp touchpad, and sold it to get an n7. Google better update chrome quickly.

I'll chime in here with my own opinion of the "screen vs. AMOLED" thing others have also commented on. I've been trying out a Toshiba Excite 7.7 with AMOLED (same one as on the Galaxy Tab 7.7) and have an iPad 3. Comparing the two side-by-side, I'll say that colors on the Excite 7.7 are definitely bright and more saturated than on the iPad 3. In fact, one might say the iPad 3 colors looked "washed out" compared to those on the Excite 7.7.
However, if you ask me which I prefer when using the two tablets separately, I'd say I prefer colors on the iPad 3. They seem more natural, while colors on the Excite 7.7 seem unnatural and somewhat blown out.
Also, I wouldn't want an AMOLED screen on the Nexus 7 even if colors were so much better, because AMOLED on a 7"-ish screen (at least on the Excite, with a similar battery) absolutely KILLS the battery when backgrounds are white (or generally brighter). For ebook reading, which I prefer black text on a white background, or any app (say, Greader) that uses a light background, battery life is something like 30% less. Switch to a dark background, and battery life is much improved. However, who wants to adjust their tablet usage to avoid lots of white, really?
In fact, there's so much of an impact that Toshiba apparently tuned their AutoBrite feature (adjusting contrast and brightness for screen content) to really kill quality with bright backgrounds. In fact, it changes abruptly when scrolling a Web page that varies from light to dark to light backgrounds. It's distracting and ugly, frankly, but clearly Toshiba saw the need to implement it given the impact on battery life.
The Verge said that, yes, colors are "washed out" compared to AMOLED, but much more in line with the new iPad. I'd say, that's a very good thing overall.

lovenokia said:
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
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We can't go by software reviews right now. These tablets are all running a developer preview, not the final build. The only thing that won't change is the hardware.

revmra said:
I think the Anandtech mini-review explains the screen issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
The big thing is his note that the greens seem undersaturated, which will make it appear dull. Plus comparing it to a phone isn't apples to apples because it is a different type of panel due to the need for greater viewing angles. I'd personally lose a bit of color vibrancy if it meant that I wouldn't have to hold it at a precise angle to be able to read it.
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Thanks! I couldnt remember where I saw the color review. That for sure makes more sense.
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I found the Anandtech review a little concerning because of the temperature thing. I like warmer screens, but 5500K seems a little too warm. Can't seem to get any feedback from anyone who has one on white balance, either.
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We can't go by software reviews right now. These tablets are all running a developer preview, not the final build. The only thing that won't change is the hardware.
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So your saying that the web browser may in fact be all finished and smoothed out by the time of the release? than if so i am happy!

Isn't there already a thread for Hands-On reviews? This should probably continue there. Though I really shouldn't pretend to be Step666...

Was this guy smoking something when he said the back was "easy to remove"

I thought the nexus 5 display is supposed to be the most accurate?

I remember reading an article saying the nexus 5 panel is the most accurate. Not sure if the picture can show it here but turquoise came out looking very blue.
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I remember reading an article saying the nexus 5 panel is the most accurate. Not sure if the picture can show it here but turquoise came out looking very blue.
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I think it's just the auto white balance adjusting for the lighting conditions. That's a camera issue, not a display issue.

adjust some settings in your camera app, its way off! unless you already adjusted them to look like this, then youre way off

Okay i'll try it again with my qx100. Your reasoning makes sense.
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Your logic is flawed. Nobody said the camera had perfect color reproduction.

Funny enough, I thought the same about the display. It actually really bothers me. I came from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA). I had a couple short 1080p HD videos that I would play on that phone. Just like HD test videos. They looked great on that screen. So sharp and the color looked great on max brightness. The brighter the screen got the better the picture looked.
On this phone those same videos and others, too, look kind of grainy. Like the display should be a little smaller to get that sharp, crisp look. Turning the brightness all the way up just makes the grainy effect even worse. All of my HD videos have the same effect / look. I even turned on all of the warranty replacements I got. Same on 4 handsets. Kinda disappointed in the screen in that sense, but hey the phone was cheap.

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Funny enough, I thought the same about the display. It actually really bothers me. I came from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA). I had a couple short 1080p HD videos that I would play on that phone. Just like HD test videos. They looked great on that screen. So sharp and the color looked great on max brightness. The brighter the screen got the better the picture looked.
On this phone those same videos and others, too, look kind of grainy. Like the display should be a little smaller to get that sharp, crisp look. Turning the brightness all the way up just makes the grainy effect even worse. All of my HD videos have the same effect / look. I even turned on all of the warranty replacements I got. Same on 4 handsets. Kinda disappointed in the screen in that sense, but hey the phone was cheap.
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thats because samsung uses samoled screens. yes they are vivid and full of color, but they are more vivid and more colorful than in real life. where the n5 screen colors are more true to the colors in reality.

simms22 said:
thats because samsung uses samoled screens. yes they are vivid and full of color, but they are more vivid and more colorful than in real life. where the n5 screen colors are more true to the colors in reality.
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Agreed. It's just unfortunate that real life sucks.

I think this is a pointless thread
Flash Franco's kernel and adjust the color reproduction of your screen as per your liking..
Topic closed..
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Techimplant said:
I think this is a pointless thread
Flash Franco's kernel and adjust the color reproduction of your screen as per your liking..
Topic closed..
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You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
Edit: @ tech. Shutup lawlz, changing my gamma values, etc. Won't fix the grainy issue. Troll

RoyJ said:
You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
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Dont know about your N5 but my display is same as a HTC One ..and similar to my iPhone 5 as well ..coz ppi> 300 is all the same to naked eyes..
And if u r in love in with those pathetic over saturated amoled screens then nobody can help you..U should switch to a S4 or Note 3 or S5(will be unveiled tomorrow) as soon as possible..
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RoyJ said:
You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
Edit: @ tech. Shutup lawlz, changing my gamma values, etc. Won't fix the grainy issue. Troll
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I agree, accurate or not it's not a very good looking screen. On my computer monitor or TV I'll take accurate colors, but on my smartphone I much prefer bright, vivid colors. I really think LG/Google and N5 fanboys use "accuracy" as an excuse for such a subpar display. Between the washed out colors and poor viewing angles, it's easily the biggest disappointment with the N5.

Um not visible to the naked eye? Actually it is. I notice it. With my eyes. SMH lol. Why do some people argue JUST to argue? There is a noticeable difference to the naked eye 100%.
Just because you never used the screen, or are a huge fanboy isn't my problem. My Gnex (like 3 years old) displays HD videos as sharply as my 70" smart TV. My N5 (new) doesn't even come close. It looks grainy and pixelated.

I think u dont know anything about displays ..and I hope you are not comparing a HD video..hope those are "Full HD" videos ..
And one of the best hardware review site said this about the display of N5 ..Now I dont know whether YOU are more intelligent and knowledgeable or the guys at Anandtech... The problem is that u were using a phone thats generations old now
.and here is the review..a part of it:
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RoyJ said:
Um not visible to the naked eye? Actually it is. I notice it. With my eyes. SMH lol. Why do some people argue JUST to argue? There is a noticeable difference to the naked eye 100%.
Just because you never used the screen, or are a huge fanboy isn't my problem. My Gnex (like 3 years old) displays HD videos as sharply as my 70" smart TV. My N5 (new) doesn't even come close. It looks grainy and pixelated.
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The problem is that u dont know about pixels either..when u run a 720p video on a screen that has much less pixels built in then it would look fine..
But when u run at a 720p video on a screen whose resolution is 1080p then obviously it wont look that sharp..
i have a Dell Ultrasharp and thats one of the best monitors on the planet..so trust me I know how displays should be like..
EDIT: The reviewers at Anandtech said that the screen is even better than Note 3 ..and u are comparing it to a Galaxy Nexus
I think XDA membership should only be given to those people who have basic technical knowledge so that threads like this one can be avoided..
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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
Who cares if I'm comparing n5 to a gnex??? Gnex looks better. Colors don't even look over saturated lol. Maybe that's because my gnex has a custom kernel with custom colors on it.
Okay so we took out the part of over saturation. So now pixelated effect. Gnex > n5.

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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
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you do realize that its a matter of taste, right? it might look better to you, but to someone else it might look like trash. "looks" isnt an accurate method to measure which is better, just like "feels" isnt an accurate way to measure temperature.

RoyJ said:
It looks grainy and pixelated.
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Are we talking about the same phone here? LG's OLED screen on the G Flex is exactly as you describe.
Thankfully I haven't been tainted by OLED yet but I can safely say the Nexus 5's IPS LCD is of superior quality than my $400 BenQ 120Hz TN display from a few years back. Also much nicer to look at than the majority of 15" 1080p mobile screens you find in $900 laptops.
If you're rooted I think you can boost colour saturation which would somewhat mimic the look you're going for.

RoyJ said:
Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
Who cares if I'm comparing n5 to a gnex??? Gnex looks better. Colors don't even look over saturated lol. Maybe that's because my gnex has a custom kernel with custom colors on it.
Okay so we took out the part of over saturation. So now pixelated effect. Gnex > n5.
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Dude..N5 has a full RGB display..Amoleds dont.. The only little tiny tiny tiny issue with N5 display is that the colors are warm and so there is a slight yellow tint..and thats coz the gamma is set to 1.8 all across..
Now if you correct that gamma then the yellow tint will disappear..Right now my N5 has a gamma of 2.2 all across ..and 2.2-2.4 is the most accurate for any display in the world ..2.2 being the best
Now if you dont have any idea what I said then google is your friend..
And trust me u need it..u r in need of some serious knowledge..loads of it..
And now I cannot waste my knowledge and time with you any more..this conversation is over..
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simms22 said:
you do realize that its a matter of taste, right? it might look better to you, but to someone else it might look like trash. "looks" isnt an accurate method to measure which is better, just like "feels" isnt an accurate way to measure temperature.
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Whatever lol. I'm so done with this thread. I don't care how old a gnex is. It just looks better. Sure you are right, but as far as I'm concerned, that only has to do with the "color saturation levels".
I can watch the same video on both phones. Full HD. On my gnex, I can read the writing on paper money in movies. I can see designs / patterns in the iris of someones eyes. I can see every nook and cranny or the trunk of a tree.
On the N5 it just looks lower quality. I can see the color of someone's eyes but really no specific pattern. The picture isn't sharp enough. I can see a blurred image of what looks like text on money or papers on the N5.
Newer isn't always better lol

UMI ZERO new flagship! 2GHz MTK6592T, 5" OGS FHD 1920x1080, Gorilla Glas 3

UPDATE, here my user unboxing of the UMI ZERO.
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UMI ZERO, Inside the phone / Disassembly & How to remove battery
UMI ZERO, Super AMOLED Screen Comparison with the LG G3 & Lenovo S850 (Black values)
UMI ZERO with Android 5 Lollipop
UMI VOIX earphones test
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UMI ZERO: Review
The UMI ZERO is currently one of the most Anticipated smartphones from China. The last two months it has been hyped on the Internet and on a lot of channels, and with the UMI ZERO, UMI wanted to start on a new era and create something new. The UMI ZERO comes with top specifications like Super AMOLED display, Double-sided Gorilla Glass 3, Rapid Charging, 2GB RAM, Camera with aperture f/1.8, the MTK6592 Turbo CPU and is only 6.4MM thin. So in terms of hardware the UMI ZERO is in front, but how will it do in real life?
I have now tested the UMI ZERO for about 1 week to see how the performance is. Note, that the UMI ZERO that I tested is a demo unit with beta software (UMI.V3.01), so the final version could be even better once the firmware is better optimized.
First impressions
When I received the UMI ZERO, the first thing I noticed was the amazing big box and packaging that the phone comes in. It was not just a boring standard box, but a box with a really nice sharply design which fits the ZERO perfectly. In the past I have seen similar on other phones from Xiaomi and OnePlus One.
The first thing I saw when I opened up the box was a big silver Z. At first glance it looked like metal, but it turned out to be some kind of case that you can use to protect the UMI ZERO.
Design & look
The phone itself feels really premium. It is totally made of metal & glass and kind of heavy (in the good way) in the hand, there are no real plastic parts on the phone, and the metal "superbody" together with the double-sided Gorilla Glass III glass makes it feel really high-end and expensive. Some could be a little anxious about the double-sided glass, as it probably would not survive a drop from a higher distance. When the screen is turned off, the phone looks totally black - it has this kind of "Stealth-Look" to it, that makes it look cool and mysterious.
The screen with 1920x1080 pixels on the UMI ZERO is providing a sharp colorful picture, and black is really deeply black and will not use any power. So it is easy to see that it is using an original full hd Samsung Super AMOLED screen. While I tested the phone it was a pleasure to use the screen and both text and graphics were always really good to read/watch.
Unfortunately, the UMI ZERO has no notification LED. And when you receive a SMS, or you have a missed call. You are not able to see that in any way. I would have liked a notification LED in the top of the phone, or maybe a solution where the touch buttons would flash to notify you. Also the touch buttons could be a little brighter in my opinion. UPDATE: You can use the 3 touch buttons light as a notification! with the app called "LG Touch LED Notifications" it just requires ROOT and works great on the ZERO.
ROM & UI (UMIZERO.V3.01)
The UMI ZERO comes with a ROM based on 4.4.2 KitKat, the UI looks very stock (like Vanilla Android) with only small optimizations and changes made by UMI. Inside the settings I also found a Powersaving & Extreme Powersaving mode and the brightness control support "economic brightness" that should save some battery. I did not find any features like Off-screen gestures or double tap to wake, that many other China phones today offers but I believe that the final UMI ZERO ROM will have more features, and that the limited features on mine is because of the beta ROM.
Performance
Inside the UMI ZERO we find the MTK6592T Octa Core chip-set, where T stands for "Turbo". Normal Octa Core phones run with 1.7Ghz, while the Turbo version runs with whole 2.0Ghz. While I used the phone, it was very smooth in the UI and the overall performance was good. Regarding 3D gaming, it also performed really good, and games like Modern Combat 5 ran smooth with the highest graphic settings without any lag. In Antutu 5.1 the UMI ZERO scored 31200 points which is significant better than on other standard Octa Core phones.
The 13 mega-pixel camera (20 mega-pixel interpolated) provides some nice pictures, most pictures I shot with the UMI ZERO were sharp, with good contrast/colors and with minimal noise or blur. The auto-focus is fast and precise. I would definitely say that the camera is above the normal standard that we find on many other china phones.
The GPS is really fast on the UMI ZERO when your outside and have an open sky. It only takes some few seconds to get locked on the satellites. I found that the Voice & WiFi reception is pretty standard, not really better or worse than on other phones.
Sound quality
I was pleasantly surprised by the good sound-quality (from the ear-piece) when I spoke with people using the UMI ZERO. The sound is very loud and clear, and it is easy to hear the part in the other end. Regarding the speaker on the back, it was also good and loud and perfect for gaming, but when the phone was laying top-down on a table, the back-speaker would be a little blocked and the sound would because of that, then be a little lower.
Battery
During my test with the UMI ZERO, I only experienced good battery-life. Inside it has a 2780mAh mah and it can easily last a whole day or more with normal usage. And with the Extreme Powersaving mode enabled I am sure it can last even longer. The Rapid Charger feature is also a very nice thing, and is possible because the charger is on 2,4A. You could say that the rule is, that the charging time up to 80% is about 1 minute for 1%, so 20 minutes would charge the phone about 20%.
Verdict
If you are looking for a stylish phone made of high-end materials and with some good specifications, and the price is no problem. Then the UMI ZERO would be a very good choice. In my opinion, the UMI ZERO delivers good performance & build-quality above the normal standard on the market and really worth the extra money.
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Specifications:
- 5 inch OGS FHD 1920×1080 pixels (Original Samsung Super-AMOLED)
- Gorilla Glass 3
- MT6592T (8 core MediaTek) 2GHz clock frequency
- GPU Mail 450 mp4
- 2 GB of RAM
- 16 GB of internal memory;
- Battery capacity 2780 mAh with quick charge
- 13-megapixel rear camera with an image sensor: Sony Exmor RS f/1.8
- 8-megapixel front camera
- Dual Sim Dual Standby
- Bands: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100 3G
- Android 4.4 KitKat firmware
- Quick charge technology from Texas Instruments
- 137,37 x 66,36 x 6,4 mm
- Powersaving / Extreme Powersaving
- Comes Pre-ROOTED
- Antutu Benchmark score: 30.000
- Air Gestures: Yes, but you need to get close to the sensor
- Google Cardboard works: Yes
- Gyroscope built-in: Yes
- Photosphere works correct: Yes
- GPS: Works fast and good
- Network & WiFi: Works good on my device (3-4 pins in reception)
- See sensors supported here: http://peecee.dk/uploads/122014/Screenshot_2014-12-02-09-36-40_big_thumb.png
UMI ZERO Battery Disassembled (Normally you can NOT open the ZERO or remove the battery!)
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i heard it use the same screen with Samsung Galaxy S5, is it really?

watalee said:
i heard it use the same screen with Samsung Galaxy S5, is it really?
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Yes ZERO adopts Samsung's Super-AMOLED. The display is a AMOLED display with an integrated touch function. It has a touch-sensor (on-cell) over the display. Compared with a conventional screen, it is 1.2mm thinner. Self-luminous also means 10% lower consumption. High static contrast ratio and high transparency also makes the color brighter and crisper - with an 178°wide visible angle.

Very good mobile phone, hope the price is not too expensive.

After a long time of waiting. UMI has now released the official specifications for UMI ZERO (source UMI).
What we can see from this, is that the UMI ZERO will be a true high-end smartphone with a lot of power, a big battery and a really good screen.

To your information, I just saw this on UMIs page.
UMI is also now giving away a free UMI Zero to 1 fan.
UMI Give Away Time (only from 20/10-5/11). Win a free UMI Zero read more here http://www.facebook.com/umicommunit...6381240861590/372876502878730/?type=1&theater on the UMI facebook page. And they also have a special 50% off offer here http://www.umidigi.com/About/SpecialOfferActivitives/

Just waiting patiently... But could have been 3Gig ram and 4G lte.
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Jeffylaw said:
Just waiting patiently... But could have been 3Gig ram and 4G lte.
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Yes but I think then the price would have been too high also. Under normal circumstances 2GB should be enough. 4G would have been nice, but not all places you can even use 4G LTE yet.

Ye you are right... Hope also the camera will live up to the hype too cos my umi c1 camera is a crap...
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Post #1 is now also updated with my unboxing video. So far the device is stunning, camera seems also to be very nice, sharp pictures. But need to test it some days before I can say more about it.

Saw a video that otg not supported? If true then a very big No for me...
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Waiting for your full review of the phone and it's retail price is quite high though.

Jeffylaw said:
Waiting for your full review of the phone and it's retail price is quite high though.
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Yes the price is high, but it is because the phone is made all in metal and glass. There are almost no plastic parts on this phone. So the materials are of high quality. So far I am impressed with the camera, it is clearly much better than on many other Chinese phones I have tried. Also the screen is a joy to look at with the Super AMOLED FHD. Unfortunately, The phone doesn't support OTG, according to UMI it is because of the fast charging technology that the phone uses via the micro USB port, they could not combine it with OTG.

Who needs a quick recharge on just 27380mah battery? I was considering this but without otg I'll look at a better and complete phone else where!

Great unboxing video!
Would it be possible for you to post some sample pictures taken with the camera?
Also - does it have a separate LED for notifications, or it uses the bottom buttons? If it's the buttons, then I assume it doesn't allow any customization in color or pulsing?
Thank you!

JankyLV said:
Great unboxing video!
Would it be possible for you to post some sample pictures taken with the camera?
Also - does it have a separate LED for notifications, or it uses the bottom buttons? If it's the buttons, then I assume it doesn't allow any customization in color or pulsing?
Thank you!
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Thanks I have added some camera samples now to post #1. Unfortunately there is no LED for notications or in the buttons. But they may make something for the buttons if it is possible, UMI are still working on the software, it is not final yet.

The pictures look good. Although the ones with the helicopter - are the colors correct? Aren't they actually more saturated?
The buttons don't even light up when you have a missed call or a message?

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The pictures look good. Although the ones with the helicopter - are the colors correct? Aren't they actually more saturated?
The buttons don't even light up when you have a missed call or a message?
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My lamps in the ceiling, are spots with cold temperature light, I think that's why the helicopter looks like that. With warm light or normal daylight it would have been more colourful. As told, my phone is currently using a beta software - and it has no kind of notifications after a call or sms, so I think they will release a much better software/ROM in the final version with this, let's hope so.

The quick-charge function is really as good as advertised?
I'm looking for a new phone, and my main concerns are the camera and good GPS.
GPS on mediatek devices are usually.. Well.. Not that good How about this one?

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OP, have you tried rooting the umi zero and whats the application memory size?

Anyone Else Disappointed with Gear Image Quality?

Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?

I agree with you that the image quality is still not good enough to replace mediums like a TV or monitor. This is for sure one reason why it will not find mass adoption right now. You must understand that this are really early days of consumer VR now and until today there is no "real" consumer ready HMD on the market.
ad. Gear VR lenses:
They really could have used better optics but then the price would be not "consumer friendly" then - also the DK2 lenses are crap in my opinion but it seems the market for good vr optics also just have been awaken.
I remember my first VR experience was with a homemade cardboard-design HMD using good lenses from high grade binoculars. They were heavy (as glass made) and the achieved FOV was not really great but it was crystal clear and nearly zero SDE. When i got my DK2 i was really disappointed to see this big pixel party! But realizing what a great FOV and the right software can achieve (a kind of presence) i knew we have to go for great FOV if VR should be a new medium and not only a image/movie viewer.

Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.

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Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.
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Personally I prefer a larger FOV, and think you get the best experience with the foams removed (only have some on my nose). Would never choose a smaller FOV just for slightly less of a SDE as that would totally kill the immersion for me. Hoping for 4K full RGB screens in two years time.

Agree with you
I for one absolutely agree with you. got mine 2 days ago and yeah the experience is nice but the image quality is fuzzy or blurry, it would be nice if someone can mod a lens on to the Gear VR to sharpen the quality.
my question: is this issue addressed in the upcoming drift in 2016?
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Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?
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To be very very honest, Im not disappointed about it at all. The tech is really young, the Note4 was only compatible with the innovator and development editions of the hardware. I cant comment on the quality improvement between the devices. But with a Note5 and a consumer version, Im getting exactly what I thought id be getting. Very bleeding edge technology that hasn't even gotten off the runway but is far ahead than anything else on the consumer market today.

Remember this: 100$ ..................... if you want something better, the next step is 600$ and only in march.
Also, this is technically not even an official 1st gen device. It's a slightly better draft than the slightly better draft of the previous editions. I think oculus and samsung partnered to use Galaxy users as a sort of Beta test. This technology obviously is the future, but as of now, its still a foetus. I have a Note 5, one of the most powerful smartphones in the world, and yet, the VR uses 98% of the phones performance. The battery drains within 1h practically and it generates so much heat it would probably keep your coffee warm in winter.
I bought one of the best rated VR headsets on amazon as a gift for my nephew, it cost me half of what my GearVR cost me, and it doesnt even come close to offer what Samsung does. The ONLY thing it does better, it it has almost no light leak. Thats also the only thing i can ***** about the GearVR, i would have liked a black background around lenses and thicker padding around face, or at least, an extra strip of padding we can patch the light leaks (also a carrying bag would have been nice even if it was cheap).
This GearVR sould have been called the "Early Bird Edition". We all are early adopters, I can tell you one thing, for 100$, I have impressed 100% of the people that put the headset on, and not only impressed, amazed. And 3 weeks later, i'm still being impressed by the new thing I find I can do, explore or play.
As for the pixels, it would take an 8K screen 3 inches from our face to not see them. I didnt know this until recently when the app froze on me but out the the entire screen realestate, only a very small portion is used for a majority of content. So yeah, that 1080p content you are watching, not exactly trueHD
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I might have made it a bit small, but not by much.
P.S. Not a big fan of the super mega studio adult films, but they have actually some of the highest quality videos out there, there are some samples floating around, its quite impressive.

Over the moon with mine, can watch full length movies with ease Tonto being one of them, battery no problem here with an s6 edge plus, but use mine on wifi only usually, and I have facebook blather and g+ disabled, and nothing polling ,email etc. all on manual , usually use unit at 4 to 5 on its brightness slide ,not aware of any light leak in my experience.
Everyone without exception who has tried it is blown away, I own my favourite phone anyway and then this appears, an accessory for $99 with this level of experience, if you are fortunate to be able to afford it without neglecting your life and dependants needs.......who wouldn't . If apple had released this exact same item with their logo ,the media would have eaten it alive with cream and the public would too, and, when they do, they will, we all
know this is in its infancy, but its a great place to be, the next advance in screen resolution will nail it, when your looking at a 25 foot screen with the clarity of a samsung big tv quality ,you, entertainment wise, have arrived.
plus, keep em like new guys, when it comes time to upgrade, this will practically sell your phone for you...maybe. lol.

Love mine too. Have had it since the day after Thanksgiving, and still using it a lot daily. There is a "screen door effect" to it, but the resolution is still clear and bright on movies. I put on some 3D movies last week, and they look great, and are easy to watch. Games like Herobound and Gunjack are also stunning and extremely fun with a controller to play. Samsung Internet browser is great, but don't count on all content to be great quality. There are some good 3D video samples on Youtube through the browser though. Also just looked through some Experiences in the Oculus Video app tonight, like going to the Electric Daisy Carnival. Again, quality of that video not great, but still a fun experience to see what it would be like to be there.

SDE is overpowering and both sides of the screen out of focus - in my experience. Its a cool toy but nothing I would use for any length of time. This is with the Note 5.
That being said, the tech should probably be good in a year or so.

Decided For the Pixel 4 - vs all the others (Samsung, Apple, and etc)

I am very excited. I really think it's a special phone, at least from a first glance. The phones that Samsung, Apple, LG, and others put out year after year are all.. carbon copies of one another. I always choose an outsider if I have the option for anything outside of the mainstream - you know, especially if everyone has it.
I had HTC m8 when Samsung ruled Android all alone. Than I opted for OnePlus when I broke my HTC.. because, why not right? Cheap, and as good as the twice as expensive ones.
Anyway!!
That was probably the main reason I decided to go with Pixel. On top of guarantee of getting new Android OS probably before anyone else, I also like the lack of a company skin, and bloatware. I mean root does take care of that but you shouldn't need to root to get rid of apps from a device that you OWN.
When I get it, hoping the order process goes without a hitch, I will write my first impressions here.
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I didn't spend much time on the forum but from a few reviews I read.. it seems pretty mixed. Some hate it, others love it. Care to enlighten me, please?
Greatly appreciate any effort to that question..
Cheers, Amer

The sound quality will blow you away.
Phone calls are clear and crisp, no complaints, people can hear me great too.
Small but pleasant surprises:
The vibrating motor has an interesting kick to it. It's hard to ignore.. (if you've used phones set to vibrate and still missed calls you didn't notice you'd understand what I mean)
I'm coming from a P30, so battery life in comparison is certainly an issue (or at least precieved to be an issue.)
To counteract this I ordered an iotie wireless charger for the car.
Face unlock: yes we all heard its bad, cause it doesn't require "attention" to unlock.
I don't have trust issues or major security requirements. However....
When you put this in the car holder... If it catches a glimpse of your face for even a second... The screen unlocks and stays open (very annoying) also if you have the screen off and it somehow gets a glimpse of your face... Screen unlocked... Now your fingers are doing all sorts of things on the phone that you don't want to happen.
Having said that.. We all know google will patch in the "attention" feature for face unlock. I'm not happy about the delay... But I can certainly wait.
Bottom line, could it have been better... Absolutely.... Do I have any regrets? No.
I'm very happy with my purchase. And I've had it since the 26th of October. So literally 1 week.
I love having a comparable screen to iPhone, gestures, and stock android. And the camera is better than I need it to be. (yup not a pro phone cam user.. I mostly take pics of my pets or business cards or important notes..) for anything else I have a dslr.
This is highly subjective... So I hope you'll be happy with it. And if not.. That's fine... Just return or sell and go with something that makes you happy =)
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Very quickly, I am absolutely happy with my Pixel.
Face unlock, I really do think this is a storm in a tea cup. If your life leads you to worry about people sneaking in to your bedroom and presenting your phone to your face whilst you sleep... You have much more serious issue to deal with than the pixel's biometric supposed shortcomings.
More annoying is that it doesn't work with all those apps that I just got used to working with my fingerprint.
Don't understand about it opening when it catches sight of your face instantly? Mine doesn't, I have to press the power button before it activates? Probably something I've misunderstood. (Edit - I get it now actually. Soli wakes the phone up and then your face unlocks it. Doesn't seem to happen that often unintentionally though)
It does just work 100% of the time (so far at least) really, really quickly.
The battery. It is 19:05 here, the phone was charged up yesterday, I left it off the power overnight, to see how it would fare (it lost 8%) and I'm on 33%. I charged it fit approx 10 minutes in car earlier.
It could be better, but really it doesn't impact anywhere near as much as done would have you think.
The camera is simply brilliant.
Scrolling around is super smooth. Noticeably smoother than my old Huawei P20 Pro. To use some other company's tag line - it just works.

I agree with everybody else in that it does have it's shortcomings but overall I love the phone. I mainly like it because of the size. It just feels so much more comfortable in the hand vs larger form factor phones like the 4 XL. It's also a very unique phone in that it is the only small form factor phone with a 90hz display right now, every other phone that has a 90hz display is on the larger side.
Battery life is relatively bad compared to other phones, I'm getting about 4 hours of screen on time with light-medium usage, which includes youtube videos and scrolling through social media. It's not much of an issue for me though because I always charge my phone in my car and I always carry a portable charger with me.
I just can't get over that 90hz display, it's so smooth.

Amer28 said:
I am very excited. I really think it's a special phone, at least from a first glance. The phones that Samsung, Apple, LG, and others put out year after year are all.. carbon copies of one another. I always choose an outsider if I have the option for anything outside of the mainstream - you know, especially if everyone has it.
I had HTC m8 when Samsung ruled Android all alone. Than I opted for OnePlus when I broke my HTC.. because, why not right? Cheap, and as good as the twice as expensive ones.
Anyway!!
That was probably the main reason I decided to go with Pixel. On top of guarantee of getting new Android OS probably before anyone else, I also like the lack of a company skin, and bloatware. I mean root does take care of that but you shouldn't need to root to get rid of apps from a device that you OWN.
When I get it, hoping the order process goes without a hitch, I will write my first impressions here.
^^ Hoping the estimate is very close to accurate.
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I didn't spend much time on the forum but from a few reviews I read.. it seems pretty mixed. Some hate it, others love it. Care to enlighten me, please?
Greatly appreciate any effort to that question..
Cheers, Amer
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I don't agree putting LG with Samsung and Apple. In fac I can tell you that carbon copy is Apple and Pixel when it comes to main camera sensor module. They both share an Sony imx363 but assembled and with lenses from LG Innotek . So who's copying who? Apple has f1.8, pixel f1. 7 and lg the more advanced f1. 5 since lg v40 ThinQ. That's 1 year before.
Regarding photovideography my V50 kills both the iPhone and the pixel.
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Regarding sound quality, saying the pixel has sound quality without reffering to the best in class... Quad dac, LDAC, dtsx, hardware MQA, 32 bit audio processor and so on...
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Design?
Just take a look at the V50 Korean model. Under glass most advanced and best on the planet triple camera system. LG has done it. Pixel apple and Samsung are dreaming.

Inerent said:
I don't agree putting LG with Samsung and Apple. In fac I can tell you that carbon copy is Apple and Pixel when it comes to main camera sensor module. They both share an Sony imx363 but assembled and with lenses from LG Innotek . So who's copying who? Apple has f1.8, pixel f1. 7 and lg the more advanced f1. 5 since lg v40 ThinQ. That's 1 year before.
Regarding photovideography my V50 kills both the iPhone and the pixel.
Regarding sound quality, saying the pixel has sound quality without reffering to the best in class... Quad dac, LDAC, dtsx, hardware MQA, 32 bit audio processor and so on...
Design?
Just take a look at the V50 Korean model. Under glass most advanced and best on the planet triple camera system. LG has done it. Pixel apple and Samsung are dreaming.
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LG's flagship devices are meh at best.
Camera? Can only take average at best in detail. f1.5 means nothing if image processing is mediocre.
Under glass camera? LG wasn't the first to do that and they can only do so because they are using smaller camera sensors (aka. for midrange)
Design? This is subjective. LG phones are always a clone of Samsung but look plain and boring.
There is no real character in their phones. Let's not talk about LG's hideous notch because it's not even funny to begin with.
Sound quality? They should thank HTC for being bankrupt, else, HTC will continue to dominate this space.
Videography? I am not a fan of iPhone but everyone will agree that they rule this piece even without pro mode.

Yeah, right. I'm telling you. LG V50 kills everything in both photos and videos.
Regarding design:

How about this? Got it since 04 December.
I've heard there are pixel 4 xl out there with like September and October security patch.
Intresting how times changes...
Regarding the camera aspect don't forget that LG Innotek makes them both for iPhone and Pixel. No way iPhone is taking better videos than V50. They're dreaming.

Ah. I forgot to mention I'm getting 10-12 hours SOT with my V50 4000mah.
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Inerent said:
How about this? Got it since 04 December.
I've heard there are pixel 4 xl out there with like September and October security patch.
Intresting how times changes...
Regarding the camera aspect don't forget that LG Innotek makes them both for iPhone and Pixel. No way iPhone is taking better videos than V50. They're dreaming.
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Pixel 4 xl with Sept security patches!? You do realize the pixel 4 wasn't released until October ? Let me guess this coming from the grapevine right.