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OK, so far we have some info on the D820 (via the FCC) and D821 (via the leaked service manual).
D820: LTE bands 2/4/5/17/25/26/41
D821: LTE B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20
D821 looks like a good match for European, African and most Asian LTE bands, and D820 looks like a match for American & South American LTE bands. China does not appear to be well covered by either model, so there may be a third model if the Nexus 5 is released there.
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UK:
D820: No carriers
D821: EE (3, 7, 20) 3, (3, 20), O2 (20), Vodafone (7, 20)
US:
D820: Sprint (25, 26, 41), AT&T (2, 4, 5, 17), T-Mobile (4)
D821: No carriers
Philippines
D820: Smart Communication (5)
D821: Smart Communication (1, 3, 5)
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Please post below with which model is supported by which carriers in your country, and I'll add it to the post.
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Two models, two spec revisions (with inexplicably lost bands), or the same model with bands 'locked off' for different region (is there a regulatory precedent for this, e.g. WiFi channel 14)? My guess is that the hardware is the same and the bands are locked off somewhere in the firmware, but maybe someone familiar with the chipsets can chime in as to their capabilities?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Its possible that the bands are modem locked. ie with n4 lte band 4. We really won't be able to tell until we get our hands on one.
So officially now, no Verizon love at all.
Sprint supported. Hell yeah.
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bavarianblessed said:
So officially now, no Verizon love at all.
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Say it isn't so!
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Where is the official proof no Verizon support?
Sprint uses bands 25, 26, and 41 for U.S. version.
AT&T uses bands 4, and 17 on Nexus 5.
T-Mobile has just band 4 from the looks of it.
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Say it isn't so!
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Sudbury78 said:
Where is the official proof no Verizon support?
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Sorry, I shouldn't say official. It hasn't been announced but the bands listed above do not include Verizon's LTE network. Apparently it supports band 4 wich Verizon is supposed to roll out in the future but everyone else is supported in the US. Even US Cellular just no Verizon from the looks of it.
Ugh thanks. F Verizon. Haha
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So there is still a glimmer of hope haha, but knowing Verizon (angry Gnex owner here) and not carrying the Nexus 4, I would not be surprised if they don't support the N5.
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I don't know why they just don't do like the Nexus 7 2013 and just put the Verizon bands in there. Verizon won't be happy but with N7 owners, they were able to activate a SIM in another device, then put it in the N7 for service. They just couldn't activate the SIM in the N7.
Verizon is a pain. My GNex is feeling the pain of Verizon but still overall a great device with tons of dev support.
I do remember there being some issues with the GNex release about signal strength and had a technical support nightmare. Plus the problem of Google releasing CDMA source code in AOSP. Not sure how Sprint does it.
Even if Verizon LTE isn't supported now, would it still work for voice service (3G speeds)?
There is mention of the Radio having an adjustable tuner. Perhaps it can tune in to Verizon LTE unofficially.
Verizon uses LTE 13 currently but plans on expanding to 4.
Having Verizon LTE support is still moot if the CDMA voice fall back isn't there. This after all a phone and Verizon doesn't have vo/lte. This makes the the situation with the new N7 different.
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In my opinion D820 will also have "Band 3" support.
It's the most used band in the world. And it will be very stupid to sell a Nexus 7 2013 US edition with Band 3 support...and a Nexus 5 without it.
Since, the Nexus is a phone it's more required when travelling than an LTE tablet.
Also, people told me that the FFC doesn't need to approve that Band so we still have no info about this.
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Also, people told me that the FFC doesn't need to approve that Band so we still have no info about this.
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I've just dug in Google for a few minutes, and I can't find any info supporting this...the FCC seeks approval on all bands under its perview, to ensure there's no disruption to other frequencies. The fact its a 'world' band is immaterial for release in the US..it would still receive testing/verification.
I am a bit disappointed by the two models, would have preferred a single model that supports all the bands listed (don't know if that is technically possible yet). I travel a lot to the UK and it would have been nice to have LTE while there.
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In my opinion D820 will also have "Band 3" support.
It's the most used band in the world. And it will be very stupid to sell a Nexus 7 2013 US edition with Band 3 support...and a Nexus 5 without it.
Since, the Nexus is a phone it's more required when travelling than an LTE tablet.
Also, people told me that the FFC doesn't need to approve that Band so we still have no info about this.
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According to the leaked Service Manual, page 6 indicates DCS1800 (Band 3) is supported.
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According to the leaked Service Manual, page 6 indicates DCS1800 (Band 3) is supported.
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Mmm but the leaked manual is not only for D821?
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thesebastian said:
Mmm but the leaked manual is not only for D821?
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"LG-D821 : WCDMA(B1,B2,B4,B5,B8)(HSPA+42Mbps(cat24)/ HSUPA 5.8Mbps(cat6) + GSM850/GSM900/DCS/PCS (GPRS Class10/EDGE
Class10)+ FDD LTE (B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20) (DL:102Mpbs, UL:51.0Mbps, Max DL MIMO layers = 2, Release8(Cat3))"
I don't know how to make it any clearer..but this relies on a leaked manual.
Here's the wiki page for bands/frequencies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
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"LG-D821 : WCDMA(B1,B2,B4,B5,B8)(HSPA+42Mbps(cat24)/ HSUPA 5.8Mbps(cat6) + GSM850/GSM900/DCS/PCS (GPRS Class10/EDGE
Class10)+ FDD LTE (B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20) (DL:102Mpbs, UL:51.0Mbps, Max DL MIMO layers = 2, Release8(Cat3))"
I don't know how to make it any clearer..but this relies on a leaked manual.
Here's the wiki page for bands/frequencies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
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The contest wasn't that the D821 would not support band 3 (as you say, the manual clearly states it), but that the D820 would (the FCC filing made no mention of band 3 being among the supported LTE bands).
The FCC website is inaccessible for the moment due to American governmental sillyness, so it's not possible to see if the D820's details have been updated.
EdZ said:
The contest wasn't that the D821 would not support band 3 (as you say, the manual clearly states it), but that the D820 would (the FCC filing made no mention of band 3 being among the supported LTE bands).
The FCC website is inaccessible for the moment due to American governmental sillyness, so it's not possible to see if the D820's details have been updated.
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Good catch! Didn't see that...but for the 820, we presently have:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ery-lte-802-11ac-wi-fi-and-wireless-charging/
I understand that for XT1103, the CA bands are 2+13, 2+17, 4+5, 4+13, and 4+17; for XT1100 3+5 and 3+8.
However, my country telcos only support 3+7. Is it possible to edit the CA bands for 3+7? Or is this a hardware thing? I'm using XT1100
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I understand that for XT1103, the CA bands are 2+13, 2+17, 4+5, 4+13, and 4+17; for XT1100 3+5 and 3+8.
However, my country telcos only support 3+7. Is it possible to edit the CA bands for 3+7? Or is this a hardware thing? I'm using XT1100
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Bands are completely hardware thing You can't change them
I see, thanks
What a waste for me, able to use LTE but not LTE-A
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Bands are completely hardware thing You can't change them
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That is not entirely true. You can enable some bands.
tatsit said:
I understand that for XT1103, the CA bands are 2+13, 2+17, 4+5, 4+13, and 4+17; for XT1100 3+5 and 3+8.
However, my country telcos only support 3+7. Is it possible to edit the CA bands for 3+7? Or is this a hardware thing? I'm using XT1100
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Maybe ask the OP of this thread. He figured out how to add LTE band 1 to the Nexus 6.
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That is not entirely true. You can enable some bands.
Maybe ask the OP of this thread. He figured out how to add LTE band 1 to the Nexus 6.
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I know that they can be managed to put but I highly doubt if that'll be effective or not
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I know that they can be managed to put but I highly doubt if that'll be effective or not
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It certainly worked fine on the Nexus 5 (enabling band 3 and 8 on the North American version). And although I haven't read much on enabling bands on the Nexus 6, I don't image it'll be any less effective.
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It certainly worked fine on the Nexus 5 (enabling band 3 and 8 on the North American version). And although I haven't read much on enabling bands on the Nexus 6, I don't image it'll be any less effective.
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Okay Thanks for the info btw
Nexus 5 still had some hardware restrictions for some bands. Some were possible to enable, some were not. Will require more investigation on the 805
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Nexus 5 still had some hardware restrictions for some bands. Some were possible to enable, some were not. Will require more investigation on the 805
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For sure. But band 1 has already been enabled on the North American version, and @Azlun seems to be working on band 8. He hasn't mentioned anything about band 7 in his thread, and I have no idea about the carrier aggregation stuff.
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That is not entirely true. You can enable some bands.
Maybe ask the OP of this thread. He figured out how to add LTE band 1 to the Nexus 6.
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Thanks, I've dropped a reply in his thread, seems like I'm not the only one asking
Hi All!!
Was just wondering if it is at all possible to replace or add/unlock additional LTE bands on our AHD?
As it stands now: ATRIX HD has the following bands and frequencies: LTE 700 and 1700 / 2100 (Bands 4, 17). Both USA.
The problem is LTE was introduced quite recently here in Pakistan and the frequency/band they are using is 1800MHz (Band 3, I believe?). So I can use 3G internet with my AHD but not the LTE.
Now as our phone is also based on the MSM8960 chipset, I did a quick research to see what other MSM8960 chipset phones have in terms of LTE bands. Quite a few do have the 1800MHz freq I need.
RAZR HD: LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 20)
RAZR HD XT925: LTE 700 (Band 13)
RAZR M XT905: LTE 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7)
Photon Q XT897:LTE 1900 (Band 25)
HTC Windows 8X:LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 17) - AT&T
BB Z10:LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 8, 20) - STL100-2
And I did visit the official Qualcomm page and they say the MSM8960 has "world/multimode" LTE.
Now my question is are we limited by hardware or software?
And this is where I need help understanding the following link:
1) Look at Page 3 of the following PDF file. This shows a complete hardware breakdown of our AHD phone. It shows the various PA (Power Amps) and other components the phone has as well as how data flows. According to this, is our phone limited by hardware to just the bands we have now or is it possible to unlock new bands and use them?
http://www.techinsights.com/uploadedFiles/Public_Website/Content_-_Primary/Marketing/2013/techinsights-motorola-atrix-hd-mb886.pdf
Also the following photo proves that the RTR8600 transceiver on our AHD is capable of LTE @ 1800MHz (Look at 4th Gen column): http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6541/IAR Summit Nov 2012_Serge_Jim_Page_20.png
If not limited by hardware. Has anyone heard of a software called "Qualcomm Prod Support Tool" I ask this because I came across "QPST?" which claims to unlock the bands on Qualcomm processors. While keeping the existing bands unharmed.
This link shows how to use QPST:
2) http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-t...aws-bands-on-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sgh-i337m/
Also found a thread about QPST WRT Samsung S5:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
So.
1. Has anyone here ever used QPST or know of any other method to unlock bands (if at all possible)?
2. Can we just flash modem firmware (baseband) from another MSM8960 phones to enable LTE frequencies on AHD? Asking this as CM11 for MSM8960 works on all devices and hardware of all the MSM8960 phones (similar drivers?)
Any and all help/guidance on the matter will be greatly appreciated as my other alternative is replacing the phone I bought not 6 months ago. Also I know of all the legal concerns on this matter as I am not in EU or US I believe I am at little risk of FCC coming after me My point is, please add useful and knowledgeable replies to this thread concerning the topic at hand instead of telling me FCC or AT&T will catch me..
I'm currently rooted with Phil'z Touch recovery(unlocked BL) and CM11. Phone is not locked to AT&T.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi All!!
Was just wondering if it is at all possible to replace or add/unlock additional LTE bands on our AHD?
As it stands now: ATRIX HD has the following bands and frequencies: LTE 700 and 1700 / 2100 (Bands 4, 17). Both USA.
The problem is LTE was introduced quite recently here in Pakistan and the frequency/band they are using is 1800MHz (Band 3, I believe?). So I can use 3G internet with my AHD but not the LTE.
Now as our phone is also based on the MSM8960 chipset, I did a quick research to see what other MSM8960 chipset phones have in terms of LTE bands. Quite a few do have the 1800MHz freq I need.
RAZR HD: LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 20)
RAZR HD XT925: LTE 700 (Band 13)
RAZR M XT905: LTE 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7)
Photon Q XT897:LTE 1900 (Band 25)
HTC Windows 8X:LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 17) - AT&T
BB Z10:LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 (Bands 3, 7, 8, 20) - STL100-2
And I did visit the official Qualcomm page and they say the MSM8960 has "world/multimode" LTE.
Now my question is are we limited by hardware or software?
And this is where I need help understanding the following link:
1) Look at Page 3 of the following PDF file. This shows a complete hardware breakdown of our AHD phone. It shows the various PA (Power Amps) and other components the phone has as well as how data flows. According to this, is our phone limited by hardware to just the bands we have now or is it possible to unlock new bands and use them?
http://www.techinsights.com/uploade...2013/techinsights-motorola-atrix-hd-mb886.pdf
Also the following photo proves that the RTR8600 transceiver on our AHD is capable of LTE @ 1800MHz (Look at 4th Gen column): http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6541/IAR Summit Nov 2012_Serge_Jim_Page_20.png
If not limited by hardware. Has anyone heard of a software called "Qualcomm Prod Support Tool" I ask this because I came across "QPST?" which claims to unlock the bands on Qualcomm processors. While keeping the existing bands unharmed.
This link shows how to use QPST:
2) http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-t...aws-bands-on-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sgh-i337m/
Also found a thread about QPST WRT Samsung S5:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
So.
1. Has anyone here ever used QPST or know of any other method to unlock bands (if at all possible)?
2. Can we just flash modem firmware (baseband) from another MSM8960 phones to enable LTE frequencies on AHD? Asking this as CM11 for MSM8960 works on all devices and hardware of all the MSM8960 phones (similar drivers?)
Any and all help/guidance on the matter will be greatly appreciated as my other alternative is replacing the phone I bought not 6 months ago. Also I know of all the legal concerns on this matter as I am not in EU or US I believe I am at little risk of FCC coming after me My point is, please add useful and knowledgeable replies to this thread concerning the topic at hand instead of telling me FCC or AT&T will catch me..
I'm currently rooted with Phil'z Touch recovery(unlocked BL) and CM11. Phone is not locked to AT&T.
Thanks in advance!
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Yes it is possible to do what you are looking to do.
Original thread link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55321005
Modified Motorola instructions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57305360
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palmbeach05 said:
Yes it is possible to do what you are looking to do.
Original thread link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55321005
Modified Motorola instructions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57305360
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Thanks for the quick response and the links :good: Will check them out...
Have you tried doing this yourself? or have first hand knowledge? can I get back to you if I have questions?
Cheers!! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for the quick response and the links :good: Will check them out...
Have you tried doing this yourself? or have first hand knowledge? can I get back to you if I have questions?
Cheers!! :fingers-crossed:
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Yes i have tried it, i actually activated all bands. And yes, i am available for questions
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Hmm...
Enabling of additional LTE bands has failed so far on xt897 (Photon Q).
If you're interested to see what has been tried so far, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275748
You should pay special attention to the research done by stargo - his posts in the second half of the thread and the link to his utility source...
kabaldan said:
Hmm...
Enabling of additional LTE bands has failed so far on xt897 (Photon Q).
If you're interested to see what has been tried so far, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275748
You should pay special attention to the research done by stargo - his posts in the second half of the thread and the link to his utility source...
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I don't have the Photon Q, but it is always good to have feedback on other msm8960 devices. I'll check the link out in a sec
EDIT: Has anyone with the Photon Q tried the steps in the link above?
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Hmm...
Enabling of additional LTE bands has failed so far on xt897 (Photon Q).
If you're interested to see what has been tried so far, see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275748
You should pay special attention to the research done by stargo - his posts in the second half of the thread and the link to his utility source...
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Thank you for the info :good:..
I just checked the links and he is failing and the modem keeps crashing but Photon Q has just the one band 25 activated by default? Maybe Moto and Sprint have a thing going there where they limited the hardware to keep the price down and prevent customer from taking their phone to rival networks?
AHD is also used by Bell in Canada I believe.. and they also use band 7 in addition to AT&T's bands 4 and 17? So their might be some hardware in AHD to use the additional bands? Of course this is all my guess work.. however..
@palmbeach05 said that he has successfully activated all bands.. I hope it was for AHD and that he got a chance to test them out That makes me think we have different hardware to Photon Q and gives me hope it would work for me too if it worked for another user?
Look the following link: http://www.comparecellular.com/cell-phones/motorola-atrix-hd-lte/specifications.asp
It lists Bell's variant of AHD capable of ONLY Band 7 for LTE... while in the US they enabled Bands 4 and 17 for AT&T? If this is accurate then we have hardware limited by firmware/software.. and additional bands could be unlocked?
I just need Band 3.. don't mind blocking the rest if that makes the device more stable as I don't travel a whole lot..
AT&T specs on the Atrix HD MB886 -
AFAIK it should be LTE (700 (band 17)) / (1700/ 2100 (band 4)) .
Band 4 is AWS which uses both 1700 & 2100 for up/down but is just referred to by 1700.
Bell LTE bands (from Wikipedia) are 700b (band 17), 1700 (band 4), 2600 (band 7).
From research it seems Bell Canada had 1700 (AWS band 4) up and running in 2011 and then got 2600 (band 7) up and running in July 2012 - the exact time frame they launched the Atrix HD.
While they (Bell) didn't get any 700b (band 17) until they launched last year - 2014.
So it would seem that the HD was indeed running on 2600 when launched by Bell IMO.
I'm quite sure that if @palmbeach05 said he had all bands working then he did.
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Look the following link: http://www.comparecellular.com/cell-phones/motorola-atrix-hd-lte/specifications.asp
It lists Bell's variant of AHD capable of ONLY Band 7 for LTE... while in the US they enabled Bands 4 and 17 for AT&T? If this is accurate then we have hardware limited by firmware/software.. and additional bands could be unlocked?
I just need Band 3.. don't mind blocking the rest if that makes the device more stable as I don't travel a whole lot..
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Yeah a lot of conflicting data online... thanks for correcting me on the Bell bands..
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I'm quite sure that if @palmbeach05 said he had all bands working then he did.
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Waiting for confirmation from him on whether he got this done for AHD or another MSM8960 phone...
1. I think that the biggest battle is getting the PC, software & HD all on the same page - If you know what I mean. Once you get the software to recognize the HD in the correct way your mostly done. I started to do this but had issues and thought I'd save it for another day.
2. I know that Qualcomm regretted leaving the MSM8960 open to DIY reprogramming as they soon updated how they did things - none of their later model chips have this ability.
3. There are some handy programs on the Play Store for computing the NV values
See----->>>> Qualcomm NV Calculator & LTE Band Calculator
4. If you succeed please keep us posted TIA
Tim3tripp3r said:
AT&T specs on the Atrix HD MB886 -
AFAIK it should be LTE (700 (band 17)) / (1700/ 2100 (band 4)) .
Band 4 is AWS which uses both 1700 & 2100 for up/down but is just referred to by 1700.
Bell LTE bands (from Wikipedia) are 700b (band 17), 1700 (band 4), 2600 (band 7).
From research it seems Bell Canada had 1700 (AWS band 4) up and running in 2011 and then got 2600 (band 7) up and running in July 2012 - the exact time frame they launched the Atrix HD.
While they (Bell) didn't get any 700b (band 17) until they launched last year - 2014.
So it would seem that the HD was indeed running on 2600 when launched by Bell IMO.
I'm quite sure that if @palmbeach05 said he had all bands working then he did.
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Just woke up for the day. Yes i did do that unlocking method for the AHD. To check what bands are available, hit *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone info and the three dot menu in the upper right hand corner. You are able to select preffered bands in this menu, which will allow you to make it a global phone instead of just LTE. I'm in the US, so i can only vouch for ATT bands. I haven't tried switching my apns and service to TMobile to check if they are up and running too, but i think i might do that later on today to test it out.
NOTE - Global sticks all the time, including on reboots, when selected while using CM11. CM12 is having issues on that at the moment
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Yeah a lot of conflicting data online... thanks for correcting me on the Bell bands..
Waiting for confirmation from him on whether he got this done for AHD or another MSM8960 phone...
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palmbeach05 said:
Just woke up for the day. Yes i did do that unlocking method for the AHD. To check what bands are available, hit *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone info and the three dot menu in the upper right hand corner. You are able to select preffered bands in this menu, which will allow you to make it a global phone instead of just LTE. I'm in the US, so i can only vouch for ATT bands. I haven't tried switching my apns and service to TMobile to check if they are up and running too, but i think i might do that later on today to test it out.
NOTE - Global sticks all the time, including on reboots, when selected while using CM11. CM12 is having issues on that at the moment
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Thanks again.. I have no problem sticking to CM11 if it works.. I tried the latest nightly of CM12 last week and my games kept hanging and crashing so I reverted back to CM11.. I'll get an LTE sim in a day or two and then unlock the bands.. be ready for some questions regarding the unlock process
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Thanks again.. I have no problem sticking to CM11 if it works.. I tried the latest nightly of CM12 last week and my games kept hanging and crashing so I reverted back to CM11.. I'll get an LTE sim in a day or two and then unlock the bands.. be ready for some questions regarding the unlock process
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You can actually unlock the bands now if you want, this method deals with the radio/modem, not the sim card
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theenlightened1 said:
Thank you for the info :good:..
I just checked the links and he is failing and the modem keeps crashing but Photon Q has just the one band 25 activated by default? Maybe Moto and Sprint have a thing going there where they limited the hardware to keep the price down and prevent customer from taking their phone to rival networks?
AHD is also used by Bell in Canada I believe.. and they also use band 7 in addition to AT&T's bands 4 and 17? So their might be some hardware in AHD to use the additional bands? Of course this is all my guess work.. however..
@palmbeach05 said that he has successfully activated all bands.. I hope it was for AHD and that he got a chance to test them out That makes me think we have different hardware to Photon Q and gives me hope it would work for me too if it worked for another user?
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Update regarding band 17 - I am not seeing it pop up in my menu of bands i can select in the *#*#4636#*#* menu. I have not tried a different device's modem yet, nor have I tried what Kablan was talking about in his post regarding the Photon Q.
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theenlightened1 said:
Thanks again.. I have no problem sticking to CM11 if it works.. I tried the latest nightly of CM12 last week and my games kept hanging and crashing so I reverted back to CM11.. I'll get an LTE sim in a day or two and then unlock the bands.. be ready for some questions regarding the unlock process
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Update - Global finally sticks on 3/10 builds. It must have gotten fixed with all those commits that got pushed out between 3/4 and 3/10 builds
Sorry for not being able to respond for a while.. the week's been crazy and sadly this one looks to be following the same pattern.
So.. I didn't get a chance to try anything out as yet coz of several reasons..
First I lost my phone and thank God there are still good people left on this Earth coz one of them attended my call and brought it back to me!
Secondly my mobile operator is giving me a headache getting that LTE enabled sim.. so waiting for that.. and one top of that I've been busy..
So I apologise but please know that I've not given up on this and will give this a shot soon..
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Update - Global finally sticks on 3/10 builds. It must have gotten fixed with all those commits that got pushed out between 3/4 and 3/10 builds
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Is that CM11 or CM12? I have CM11.. build 11/12 (that's Nov 12, 2014 of course).. hope this works on it.. I have a Windows 8.1 laptop but also have an old P4 desktop PC running Win XP.. I have downloaded "EFS_Professional_2.1.80_BETA.zip" and "Unlock_bands_of_your_qualcomm_device!.zip" which contains "QPST" and "mzTools".. I'm trying to make sure I understand the instructions perfectly before I take a single step.. will ask you for help if need be.. thanks!
Wanted to ask.. I found a couple of more forum posts describing what to do..
1) https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-qualcomm-devices-oneplus-one-edition.193610/
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
Could someone please have a read and see if these are following the same steps as the links @palmbeach05 shared earlier on..
Thanks!
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Is that CM11 or CM12? I have CM11.. build 11/12 (that's Nov 12, 2014 of course).. hope this works on it.. I have a Windows 8.1 laptop but also have an old P4 desktop PC running Win XP.. I have downloaded "EFS_Professional_2.1.80_BETA.zip" and "Unlock_bands_of_your_qualcomm_device!.zip" which contains "QPST" and "mzTools".. I'm trying to make sure I understand the instructions perfectly before I take a single step.. will ask you for help if need be.. thanks!
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CM11 is fine, haven't been on that old of a build for a while. I'm on CM12 right now. The global thing works on both 11 and 12
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Wanted to ask.. I found a couple of more forum posts describing what to do..
1) https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-qualcomm-devices-oneplus-one-edition.193610/
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
Could someone please have a read and see if these are following the same steps as the links @palmbeach05 shared earlier on..
Thanks!
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Link #1 is OPO's steps for what I have shared. Link #2 is something i recently discovered and haven't tried. I have the day off so i can test it out and provide feedback, but its now 3 am, i've was sleeping for about 10 hrs before my last post, and the only thing on my mind right now is food lol
UPDATE #1 - After wiping modemst1 and modemst2, I attempted the unlocking of bands by editing line 1877. This method is as effective as doing it the other way with the steps that I provided.
UPDATE #2 - Editing line 441 to reflect 0xFFFF works as well, no issues to report.
UPDATE #3 - Editing line 946 to reflect 0xFFFF works, no issues. Editing line 2954 creates issues. Looking into lines 6828 and 6829 now.
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I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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This (QPST) is something I have no experience with,but,interested in the subject:
I'm good with the band support (for now) as what's available in my area,with my carrier,is supported (Bands 2 &4 on T-Mobile US,no Band 12 or 66 yet),definitely would be nice for at least Band 12,if possible,as I believe my area will get it eventually.
One side note & a positive one at that:
My MiMix locks-in on a signal & has better/stronger connections than any phone I've used to date. This was really noticeable while commuting back & forth to work today,unbelieveable signal quality.
IDK if the ceramic body is better vs other materials,but,recent flagships from HTC/Samsung/LG pale in comparison vs this phone.
i have MI MIX in hand.
I think we need MIX Diag Driver to make it recognize from pc. MI5 Diag drivers are not the same
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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I may have that 'xtra' mix in a few weeks, will PM you if it pans out and we can see about a software hack to open up other bands.
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wolfgart said:
i have MI MIX in hand.
I think we need MIX Diag Driver to make it recognize from pc. MI5 Diag drivers are not the same
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I've heard the Mi5 diag drivers were usable on the Mi5S, which is the same SD 821, so that's strange. What happens when you put it in diag mode and plug it in? Can I see a screenshot from device manager, or some evidence of what the device is?
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
Good luck Ken, I hope you are able to crack this bad boy.
krazyken04 said:
I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
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first of all I do not have the MIX/any Xiaomi device...but you could try starting here (though think you may have already or have plodded down the path much more already) good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
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This (QPST) is something I have no experience with,but,interested in the subject:
I'm good with the band support (for now) as what's available in my area,with my carrier,is supported (Bands 2 &4 on T-Mobile US,no Band 12 or 66 yet),definitely would be nice for at least Band 12,if possible,as I believe my area will get it eventually.
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Is that band 4 only on LTE? I've seen many spec sheets and the carrier I'm on only has band 4 for 3g.
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Is that band 4 only on LTE? I've seen many spec sheets and the carrier I'm on only has band 4 for 3g.
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this is what I have gathered from various sources (so yes Band 4 is both LTE and 3g)
Tmobile
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Lower 700 MHz band 12
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
ATT
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands
LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz),
Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
LTE B29 (700)
LTE B30 (2300 WCS)
mac231us said:
this is what I have gathered from various sources (so yes Band 4 is both LTE and 3g)
Tmobile
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Lower 700 MHz band 12
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
ATT
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands
LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz),
Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
LTE B29 (700)
LTE B30 (2300 WCS)
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That still doesn't mean the WCDMA Band 4 is enabled. It's possible to have LTE band 4 and not have WCDMA Band 4.
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That still doesn't mean the WCDMA Band 4 is enabled. It's possible to have LTE band 4 and not have WCDMA Band 4.
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Yes....was just giving the bands and frequencies I know for two GSM carriers in the US. Monitoring the bands at various locations by something like signal check lite (much easier to use/read than lte discovery IMO) would be only way to tell.. If I recall correctly this device has 3g at 850,900,1800,1900 so there is no band 4 on 3g it seems... Although band 4 (1700/2100) COULD be a 3g band too for some devices. Someone with better knowledge can chime in here. I might be wrong.
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krazyken04 said:
I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
any luck so far? Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
any luck so far? Thanks
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Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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Sorry to hear that the band could not be tapped into...
yes most likely a hardware thing-like Samsung (some of their models exclusively for Latin america have u.s bands but the 'international' variants of the same models will not do the U.S bands no matter what...
I actually opened one of them (got a damaged T239M) and found indeed that the motherboard is different...(so much speculation and folks asking/trying to flash S. American firmware on like the T705, T239 etc, myself included (not possible anyway even if going through TWRP and flashing modem files etc...bootloader and pit all different..so nothing would change with the other parts of the firmware)
so it is highly likely in this case that the modem will not do bands 12, 17 (ATT) and 29, 30 (ATT). However, it is impressive that for a China phone this will even do bands 2, 4 and 5. Huawei models (again supposedly international) except for some variants of the smaller 5-5.2 inch models (not p9, p8, P8 max, x2, t3, t3 pro, or m3 (some of these are the tablet phone types) and numerous other Chinese phones will not do anything more than 1, 3, 7 and then maybe 8 and 20 or a 28. (all useless for North America). Huawei has an M2 variant that has US bands and also on their smaller phones (certain versions)
so for the Mix, you at least have LTE 2, 4 and 5 (though of lesser importance).
krazyken04 said:
Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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can you make a detailed guide with all steps and stuff to enable desidered band ? If not works is the same ...
would like to see if LTE Band 20 can be unlocked
wolfgart said:
can you make a detailed guide with all steps and stuff to enable desidered band ? If not works is the same ...
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I would love to, it's the first thought I had when both starting a new guide and when I finished getting the phone to look for band 12.
I'm currently _buried_ in a project for work right now (it's taking my nights and a lot of sleep from me ha), so nothing soon. But it's on my list of first contributions I'd like to make to this awesome community!
Would you be able to try Band 20 ?
Thanks
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I would love to, it's the first thought I had when both starting a new guide and when I finished getting the phone to look for band 12.
I'm currently _buried_ in a project for work right now (it's taking my nights and a lot of sleep from me ha), so nothing soon. But it's on my list of first contributions I'd like to make to this awesome community!
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tarkuk said:
would like to see if LTE Band 20 can be unlocked
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So far my experience is that if the band isn't listed in those spec sheet it isn't there in the hardware (apparently a very Xiaomi thing to do). I'm finding that they rarely software lock you out of the bands, it's usually that their hardware simply doesn't support the band.
Wanted to post that on Verizon and Samsung website the LTE bands supported on the device doesn't not include bands 12 and 71 that T mobile uses. Well i have used it on T-Mobile and it connected to band 12 which leaves me to believe the Verizon edition supports all bands like a unlock model would. Single and bands 2 4 and 66 worked great and are the main ones used in my part but 12 is around also and connects. Don't have any area where there is band 71 so cannot test that but like i said probably does just wanted to pass the info.
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Wanted to post that on Verizon and Samsung website the LTE bands supported on the device doesn't not include bands 12 and 71 that T mobile uses. Well i have used it on T-Mobile and it connected to band 12 which leaves me to believe the Verizon edition supports all bands like a unlock model would. Single and bands 2 4 and 66 worked great and are the main ones used in my part but 12 is around also and connects. Don't have any area where there is band 71 so cannot test that but like i said probably does just wanted to pass the info.
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Hey bud
I just started using the Samsung galaxy s10 5g verizon variant with tmobile and had band 71 in the band selection app but today I checked and the highest band it has now is 66. Why did band 71 disappear from the lte band list?
Would you know about that?
Thanks
Nevermind, figured it out.