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I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Sorry, can't agree less...AOSP is the best, I will never go back to anything else. Everyone else spends so much time packing in all of these other apps and features that are worthless to 95% of their users. As a result, updates are slower and in most cases never even happen. Our little guy here will always be up to date with the latest and greatest that Google can whip up.
I will admit that the display size (and resolution) leaves a bit to be desired, coming from one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen on a phone (DNA). Not a deal breaker for me.
At any rate, the truth is that every single person on this forum has a different "ideal" device from everyone else. If you feel like you want something else that's OK...it's the inevitable reality considering there is always something newer and better out there.
I love this phone and will happily wear it out until I'm due for an upgrade next June.
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OK that's fine. I'm not one to shout down a person who doesn't agree with me. Its not that I love the bloat of other OS but the colors of say the LG G3 or maybe a white version of our current vanilla
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i don't want a bigger screen and android can be customized to look and perform as you like.
moto x is not aging and i won't feel bad about keeping mine if moto comes out with a bigger one for the x+1.
I'm actually really surprised. My last 4 android phones have been rooted and customized. I love my moto X with stock 4.4.2. I would like to root it and use XPOSED but I'm very happy with it as is.
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Oh and I am still really impressed with the speed of the Moto X. I was a little worried after seeing the specs but this thing flies and I get virtually no lag.
I don't know what it is. I'm intrigued by the lg g3 but who knows I probably won't make the switch. I have to actually see it and use it
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Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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well, i come from a sony device in which i used to change roms every week (i know what u r thinking, but yes i had a lot of free time)
that is one of the things i am missing in Moto X (i haven't rooted it yet)
yes the stock rom is not that exciting with a lot of features but that makes the X fly..
i am ok with the stock rom..
If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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+1 I was using HKThemeManager and you can find different themes if you look hard enough. I had my drop down notification look like the gs5 with its color scheme and various other themes. But I decided to go back to stock.
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someguyatx said:
Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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For my use and preference the Moto X is the absolute best phone on the market. I have the opportunity to buy the latest and greatest if I choose to do so and yet I am completely unimpressed by:
-what is on the market today
-the fact that no OEM is focusing on reducing bezel size drastically or improving ergonomics in any meaningful way except Moto with their X line.
-Screen
I've already decided for my eyesight, viewing distance and hand size the 4.7 inch screen is perfect. Anything bigger and I find it harder to use Swype keyboard (I tend to be humble about most things but I'm a very fast Swyper). The max I would go with is 5 inch screen ONLY IF bezels are RIDICULOUSLY small, even smaller than Moto X. Theoretically you could fit a 5 inch screen on a phone the size of the Moto X. But nobody is focusing on this. There still isn't a phone on the market with thinner side bezels than Moto X.
-Active notifications.
Could I live without it? Probably. Do I want to? Nop.
-Touchless controls
I could live without it.
Moto X is the perfect form factor and because vertical scrolling fluidity and frame drops are a problem with Android OS and not the hardware, I don't find that Galaxy S5, HTC M8 are any smoother or faster than my debloated X. At all. I've done side by side comparisons.
For me Moto X is the perfect form factor/weight/feature set. If the next Moto X model to be released is a lot bigger, I will just buy another Moto X as a spare. I like iphone as well (I switch back and forth a lot, the customizability via jailbreak tends to put Android to it's knees but that's a tough pill to swallow for most people here) but I wasn't impressed by the iphone 6 leaks (bezels are not thinner than the 5/4s wth!) AND the fact that iphone doesn't have an official swype (still doable via touchpal and jailbreak but not nearly as good) is kind of a deal breaker for me. Swype is how I learned how to use smartphones. You would probably drool over my speed typing with swype or laugh at my clumsiness with two finger tapping. I feel like an idiot tap typing one handed on an iphone it's SOOO bloody slow
With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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There are already software systems in place to avoid this in ipad air due to it's small(er) bezels. It's just an algorithm that takes things like current orientation and digitizer inputs to decide whether it will ignore that input or not.
All it does is ignores your thumb inputs while you hold the device with let's say your right hand. 4 fingers are supporting the back of the device and the thumb is clamping the screen. The thumb input is ignored by the OS which then turns it's attention to the hand that you are intending on navigating the OS with (left hand in this case).
Given a very small bottom bezel the size of Moto X's would avoid that issue. And Moto X's bottom bezel is friggin tiny! :laugh:
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
AndreaCristiano said:
I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Could not disagree more.
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
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My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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AndreaCristiano said:
My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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Link?
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Link?
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To the app?
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AndreaCristiano said:
To the app?
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I'd use an app like that that doesn't drain battery. Honestly, never heard of one. ?
I find myself living the sensors a lot. Waving over to check the screen and then waving over thinking it will close. Has any one else done this besides me? Do you think it might be a battery saver?
I wish it had the Moto X body with the Droid Turbo hardware and a mSD slot or at least the 64 GB option from the Nexus 6. Motorola just about build the perfect phone this year, but split it among 3 models.
yea
I wish it had a micro SD slot also. What about 5 inch. Display for one handed use? What about software they could update or install?
1) Better camera. One that was up to par with other flagships.
2) Dual speakers. Guess they saved that for the Nexus 6. What a tease.
3) Wireless charging.
4) Could do with a bigger battery, but at the same time, I understand the importance of form factor for a 5.2" screen.
That's about it, I guess. I would've been willing to pay $650 for these additional things.
Currently, the camera is the #1 thing holding me back from the Moto X. The other missing things I can live with.
Wireless charging, maybe... The battery is a non-issue for me as this little battery gets as much SOT as my G3 did with a much larger battery. I don't care about the camera and this speaker is way louder than my previous phones, so I can't complain there either. Oh, maybe an IR blaster for the TV might be nice... But that's it, and even then they're not huge deals for me. This thing is basically perfect for my needs.
iPhone 6's camera & wireless charging.
Then I'd be in heaven :angel:
32Gb is plenty for me, the battery gets me through the day just fine and dual speakers (while a nice addition) are not that important for a phone IMO, as long as a single speaker is loud & clear enough (which it is in this case)
S805 and better battery life. I would sell my iPhone 6 immediately for that.
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I wish it had the Moto X body with the Droid Turbo hardware and a mSD slot or at least the 64 GB option from the Nexus 6. Motorola just about build the perfect phone this year, but split it among 3 models.
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+1 this. This is the biggest gripe I have right now. The Droid Turbo is ugly and it's capacitive buttons are were outdated 2 years ago, the Nexus 6 is too big, and the Moto X still isn't up to flagship status. That combined with the locked bootloaders of Verizon just make me angry. Droid Turbo hardware in a Moto X case and screen with a mSD slot for expandable storage and an unlockable bootloader? Count me in for one even if it were $800.
1: Unlockable bootloader (VZW)
2: Dual front facing speakers
3: Micro SD slot
4: Better camera with OIS
5: Wireless charging
From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
I am really believing that camera quality is going to be going up a lot because of the APIs
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From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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Even Google camera has much better results. Three shots I took over the last few days came out great - just some random pics. I think the Moto X camera app needs some fixing.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9h1urz7c407dzct/2014-10-17 18.55.01.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vxti5yfijz3rkud/2014-10-18 09.13.42.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pces9safhv4ikrl/2014-10-20 10.59.23.jpg?dl=0
Now if I could configure the twist motion to open Google camera...
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From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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0.0 said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
I am really believing that camera quality is going to be going up a lot because of the APIs
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Yup I think I read that it has the same actual camera module as some of the slightly older Samsungs? S3 S4 or whatever. They took good pictures so its definitely software.
Bigger battery and SD card slot. That'd take it into superphone territory.
Sdobron said:
Now if I could configure the twist motion to open Google camera...
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Easy! Install Xposed, then install Twisty Switch module.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/xposed-twisty-switch-customize-moto-xs-t2722112
I wish it had better reception on non-3G/4G bands- the standard GSM radio performance is pretty terrible on mine!
I'll add one more here. A slightly brighter screen for outside. While it's not terrible, it's not great either.
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Easy! Install Xposed, then install Twisty Switch module.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/xposed-twisty-switch-customize-moto-xs-t2722112
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For those of us on VZW and without root, this isn't easy.
Things we need -
1. Root.
2. See above.
onthecouchagain said:
1) Better camera. One that was up to par with other flagships.
2) Dual speakers. Guess they saved that for the Nexus 6. What a tease.
3) Wireless charging.
4) Could do with a bigger battery, but at the same time, I understand the importance of form factor for a 5.2" screen.
That's about it, I guess. I would've been willing to pay $650 for these additional things.
Currently, the camera is the #1 thing holding me back from the Moto X. The other missing things I can live with.
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Agree with all the points. I could actually live with the current battery, I still manage 4hours screen on time with my use. I'm tempted for the Nexus 6, but the size put it out of the equation for me. I'm not really fond of the Droid Turbo design.
yes
It would be a flagship phone if it had:
Bigger battery
Expandable SD slot
Dual speakers
I like the size of the phone is classified under smartphone and not tablet (coming front note 4) so it fits better in the hand but still kind wish it was around 5 inches for a better one hand use. Would have been nice to have a headset made just for the phone Just saying...
Not to much to complain about though i love that it's software based so it gets updates faster.
Is there any evidence that the screen on the N6 will be any different from the generation shipped with the X? All indications point to the Moto using a previous generation Samsung display. I can't help but think that the N6 may have been able to score the latest generation due solely to its size?
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Is there any evidence that the screen on the N6 will be any different from the generation shipped with the X? All indications point to the Moto using a previous generation Samsung display. I can't help but think that the N6 may have been able to score the latest generation due solely to its size?
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Can you link these "all indications"? All I've seen is a bunch of speculation regarding this, coming from those who are detracting from the N6 because they can't afford it, or think it's too big.
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Is there any evidence that the screen on the N6 will be any different from the generation shipped with the X? All indications point to the Moto using a previous generation Samsung display. I can't help but think that the N6 may have been able to score the latest generation due solely to its size?
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If anything, I think they will be new panels because the panels that are needed by the Nexus 6 was not needed in previous phones until now (5.9" and rez).
What "previous generation" 6-inch QHD display?
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What "previous generation" 6-inch QHD display?
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Yup exactly what I was thinking too.
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What "previous generation" 6-inch QHD display?
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Well they can use previous generation AMOLED displays. I don't think resolution and size have an effect on the generation of AMOLED. For example, the Galaxy Alpha uses Samsung's latest AMOLED technology even though it has a 4.7 inch 720p display.
I am hoping we get a brighter and a longer lasting display. Burn-in is such a real issue, as is the fact that LCD displays are usually brighter.
I dont get this supposed burn in issue....i have had every galaxy phone with absolutly no issues with the screen. I have had my note 3 for a year now and again the screen is just as beautiful as day one. Sure if you put some abstract image on full brightness on screen for 6 months straight you might get a issue...but in actual real world usage...no such thing
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I dont get this supposed burn in issue....i have had every galaxy phone with absolutly no issues with the screen. I have had my note 3 for a year now and again the screen is just as beautiful as day one. Sure if you put some abstract image on full brightness on screen for 6 months straight you might get a issue...but in actual real world usage...no such thing
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The amoled burn in issue is still alive on the GS4 we had 3 and all have had it to differing degrees. I have no idea about the gs5 or note4 generation panels. I'd wager they would have at the least some kind of image retention though. Just a educated guess. The latest LG oled TV panels have image retention issues (glance at avs forums). Image retention, which looks like like burn in, but it can be rectified (like with plasma TVs). Burn is permanent so maybe this is a case of semantics. Think status bar battery icon. It is there 24/7. Maybe you just don't notice it or panel to panel discrepancies show more or less issues.
Having said all that you have to really look for it on our GS4's and its certainly NOT a deal breaker imo
I'd like to ask those who own the new Nexus 6 device:
1. Which features does the Nexus 6 have that other devices don't have?
For example, on the hardware part, I've noticed that it has front speakers and also double tapping to wake the device (while its screen is turned off), but are there any other goodies that I've probably missed from articles?
2. Which features do you miss from other devices?
I find it a bit disappointing that for a large screen, Google didn't add features that can take advantage of it (like the Note series) .
I'm just curious about your opinions, and also about what special features it got (other than long support, like other Nexus devices) .
Double Tap to Wake is not an existing feature.
For me the key selling points are the Moto X form factor, qHD display, 3GB of RAM and the size of the device paired with Android 5.0 and the 805 chipset.
Im sure Ambient Display will be a nice touch to the amoled screen and the new smart lock feature of lollipop for those with trusted bluetooth or nfc devices.
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IR Blaster. I used that all the time on my M7. Not a huge deal, just convenient.
Have no idea until we get the Nexus6 in our hands...
Donjuanal said:
Double Tap to Wake is not an existing feature.
For me the key selling points are the Moto X form factor, qHD display, 3GB of RAM and the size of the device paired with Android 5.0 and the 805 chipset.
Im sure Ambient Display will be a nice touch to the amoled screen and the new smart lock feature of lollipop for those with trusted bluetooth or nfc devices.
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Double tap isn't available?
I thought it's there, as this website says:
"Where supported by the hardware, your device will wake up as soon as you pick it up or tap the screen twice"
Odd. Maybe it's a hidden feature, or something that will be possible via root?
AndroidDeveloperLB said:
Double tap isn't available?
I thought it's there, as this website says:
"Where supported by the hardware, your device will wake up as soon as you pick it up or tap the screen twice"
Odd. Maybe it's a hidden feature, or something that will be possible via root?
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Its available for the Nexus 9 because its made by HTC. It was confirmed via google by the original review that Double Tap to Wake is not an implemented feature for this device. It was ambient display kicking in when it sensed the phone moving.
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for me:
disadvantages
1. 64gb maximum storage space. ok, i get it...no sdcard slot. then at least offer a 128gb option. because sticking in a 64gb sdcard to a device was already pretty standard ...a couple years ago. these days people are using 128gb cards. and this doesn't even count the phone's internal storage.
even apple has bumped up to 128gb. i get that 64gb is more than what was originally offered on nexus phones...but the nexus6 also costs a heck of a lot more to the end-user.
2. questionable availability of wired hdmi mirroring. lots of speculation on this...but if it doesn't have it...
i can accept the lack of other device-specific features...like active stylus, ir blaster, heartrate monitor, various camera functions...but something as basic as large storage capacity and wired hdmi mirroring (possibly) should be in line with a "vanilla" flagship phone.
Advantages:
*Optimized software. A big plus if coming from a Samsung galaxy device. Like a HUGE plus.
*Fast updates
*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
*Motorola signal quality. Their devices always have the best signal reception.
Disadvantages:
*Lack of Super AMOLED? I don't know, maybe this is just a gripe?
*No SD card slot. Yeah this sucks.
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for me:
disadvantages
1. 64gb maximum storage space. ok, i get it...no sdcard slot. then at least offer a 128gb option. because sticking in a 64gb sdcard to a device was already pretty standard ...a couple years ago. these days people are using 128gb cards. and this doesn't even count the phone's internal storage.
even apple has bumped up to 128gb. i get that 64gb is more than what was originally offered on nexus phones...but the nexus6 also costs a heck of a lot more to the end-user.
2. questionable availability of wired hdmi mirroring. lots of speculation on this...but if it doesn't have it...
i can accept the lack of other device-specific features...like active stylus, ir blaster, heartrate monitor, various camera functions...but something as basic as large storage capacity and wired hdmi mirroring (possibly) should be in line with a "vanilla" flagship phone.
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for #2... with the Nexus 4 and 5 supporting SlimPort HDMI output.... i'd find it very odd if the Nexus 6 didn't. GSMArena also shows it supporting it.
As for #1.... not everyone finds that to be a disadvantage. The only people i can see using 128GB of storage, be it built-in or expanded, are those who either love to have a library of music on their phone at all times, or those who horde EVERYTHING (Apps, pictures, etc...) on their phone. For me, i would have liked to have been able to order the 64GB model... but seeing as i've been getting along just fine with my 16GB Nexus 5 for the past year.... 32GB isn't a bad idea either, and wasn't going to pass up on the opportunity of ordering one simply because of storage space. And if i NEED storage.... well.... that's what a 64GB USB-OTG flash drive is for.
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*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
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I thought all the versions (Play & T-Mobile) of the Nexus 5 were unlocked?
Way too many advantages so I won't list any, lol.
As for disadvantages:
No SD slot (but that was expected...),
No Super AMOLED (also expected as Samsung wouldn't hurt their own sales-Note4),
No IR (I have smart TVs, my Note 3 is able to control them over both IR and WiFi since they are Samsung TV also)
No cool accessories at all! All those (SLIM) wallet cases and digital ink cases for Samsung and HTC devices, plus things like Gear VR
No physical camera button... I mean... with a phone that size... I'm pretty sure they had enough space for a camera shutter button...
Not completely waterproof certified, it annoys me because it seems like all they had to do was block the open ports (Charger and headphone)!!
I know that seems like a lot of disadvantages but I was just thinking of The Perfect Phone...which will never exist, lol. All in all, I am very excited to get my hands on the Nexus 6
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IR Blaster. I used that all the time on my M7. Not a huge deal, just convenient.
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Yup what he said^ That is my biggest want in the N6 that it does not have.
Unconn said:
I thought all the versions (Play & T-Mobile) of the Nexus 5 were unlocked?
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I hope they are. I was also referring to sim locked, which we know AT&T will do.
I have a harmony hub setup. No need for IR
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Advantages:
*Optimized software. A big plus if coming from a Samsung galaxy device. Like a HUGE plus.
*Fast updates
*Completely unlocked (bootloader included) if buying form GP. I can't think of a reason why anyone would buy from their carrier?
*Motorola signal quality. Their devices always have the best signal reception.
Disadvantages:
*Lack of Super AMOLED? I don't know, maybe this is just a gripe?
*No SD card slot. Yeah this sucks.
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Afaik super amoled is just a marketing term from samsung and it does not make a difference...
Summarising my thoughts on the device in comparison to other flagships:
Pros
- Android 5.0 & guaranteed timely future updates
- Large 6" screen in a decent slim bezel form factor
- Always on voice commands
- Dual front facing stereo speakers
- Build quality
- Great developer support
Cons/could have done better
- Mediocre-average battery life (especially for a phablet)
- High res screen comes at the cost of battery life, brightness and colour accuracy without tangible benefits over 1080P for most people
- Average middling camera
- No Snapdragon 810 = less future proofing and no 64bit android. Misses out on the 20nm processing which promises 40-50% better battery life with 50% better performance. S805 is old tech – last of the 28nm series which has been around since 2013. Heck with the availability issues anyway I'd much rather it launch in Jan-Feb and get S810.
- No SD storage
- Price – Google sold out to the US carriers which needed premium pricing to get it on their subsidised plans. Screws the rest of the world over though.
- Availability
- Nano sim – hardly the standard in the android world. Makes it hard to change between/from other devices/tablets
- Lack of Phablet customisations in the UI with no 3rd party alternatives currently through xposed.
Overall I'm pretty disappointed as it could have been so much more from both a HW and SW point of view. Definitely not a day 1 purchase for me, maybe in the future if the XZU 4 doesn't materialise/disappoints and we see more of a price drop.
Starting to lean towards waiting for maybe a Sony Xperia Z4/Z4 Ultra & other S810 device's announcemenst at CES 2015...
Don't have the phone yet, but for me,
Advantages: QHD screen, 3GB RAM, pure stock Android, Wireless Charging, Very easy to root
Disadvantages: 6" Screen. Just a little bit too much for me. The sweet spot for me is 5.2"-5.5". (But I'm sure I'll get used to it), front camera is still 2MP, and battery is 3220 mAh, but people are saying it only has around 5 hours of on screen time.
Advantages:
- Stock OS
- 3GB RAM
- Snapdragon 805
- 5.95inch screen
- No physical home buttons
Disadvantages:
- Relatively average battery (should've been 3500-3900mh ideally; it would've fit)
- Screen is ok, but nothing special (not as bright or vivid as iPhone 6+ or Note 4)
- Too thick (10.1mm at the thicket point), should've been thinner (7 to 8mm would be great)
- Cameras are average, an improvement from last year but nothing to write home about.
- Not 64-bit despite all the work that went into making the OS 64-bit ready (understable though due to processor releases).
- The fact that the Nexus 6 will not hold its ground as well as the Nexus 5 (which is still a good phone a year after release; the Nexus 6 will not likely be able to maintain the same longevity as the Galaxy S6 is out soon expected Snapdragon 810, 3-4GB RAM, even better display and cameras + bigger battery).
I don't yet have the device, but my initial thoughts mirror many on here. But I'd like to add two more disadvantages - no removable battery (surely this was expected, though). As a current G3 owner, having a spare battery with me when I know I'll be using my phone a lot while away from a charger is great. Also, current availability MUST be listed as a disadvantage. I'm ready to buy the 64GB model right now and the longer I have to wait the better the chance is I'll move on and wait for something else.
Hello,
Which is the best option?
The new Moto X will have a newer sock, probably a microSD slot and a slightly worst battery and smaller screen size.
Besides having a sock lesser optimized for 2k, Nexus 6 has amoled screen, which I think is not than power hungry and has a bit bigger battery.
Consider that both shares the same price range here in Brazil.
Csetoue said:
Which is the best option?
The new Moto X .....
microSD slot ; Slightly worst battery; smaller screen size.
Nexus 6 . . . .
amoled screen; bit bigger battery.
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It is subjective, but I try.
You may also consider:
- availability of factory images;
- portability; magnet sensor n6 can't switch off;
- wireless charging; camera m-pixels;
- the great dev support here;
- good kernels / Roms N6 now available;
- the screen resolution;
- the positive N6 posts of the M-preview.
NLBeev said:
It is subjective, but I try.
You may also consider:
- availability of factory images;
- portability; magnet sensor n6 can't switch off;
- wireless charging; camera m-pixels;
- the great dev support here;
- good kernels / Roms N6 now available;
- the screen resolution;
- the positive N6 posts of the M-preview.
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I was comparing the specs...
Processor
- Winner: M2015 Style?
N6 has the best SD 32bits out, but 808, maybe I think, is better because its 64 bits... Besides, the video processor is worse (418 vs 420 from N6).
Camera
- Winner: M2015 Style?
N6 has OIS, but M2015 has more MP... Dunno, really, which is better on real life.
Loudspeaker
- Winner: draw
Both has front stereo speakers. Dunno which has the cleanest and/or the loudest sound.
Screen
- Winner: Nexus 6
Amoled is better than TFT, and less power hungry.
Memory
- Winner: M2015 Style
M2015 Style has microSD.
Battery
- Winner: Nexus 6
It has QI charging and probably has more battery life (more mAh and amoled screen).
User experience
- Winner: ???
Will the M2015 Style have the same pure experience and smoothness than the Nexus 6, only adding the few Moto Apps?
After this comparison, I hasnt concluded anything.
Dunno how much better is SD808 than SD805... And, also, dunno if the user experience will be equal... The amoled and the probably better battery life lean me toward the N6.
i ABSOLUTELY love my nexus 6, really do. but at this point id wait for one of the new nexus thatll come out in a few months. if you like larger screened phones, theres the 5.7 inch option(all in theory, since google hasnt announced anything yet). but, if you cant wait, definitely nexus 6
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After this comparison, I hasnt concluded anything.
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A lot of the comparisons require things to be known about the Moto X that we don't have information about yet. The battery life could be phenominal, or it could suck. The camera could be amazing, or it could be overhyped and end up garbage. The speakers could be the worst speakers on a phone in years. I mean, we really don't know at this point. On that note, what if there are major flaws with the device that we dont' know about, and may not until release. Display defects, camera defects, build quality issues or software bugs that looking at a spec sheet won't tell us.
Chipset. They are similar. Unless you are a really heavy user, or a gamer there probably won't be a noticeable difference between the two. We are at a point now where many devices perform similarly even though technically one is faster. The Nexus 6 is technically faster than the Nexus 5, but they perform similarly for most of the basic tasks people would do. Same with the Moto G which has a low end processor, but it should be able to send Snapchats, Instagram, and stream Spotify just as well as any device out now or coming in the near future.
One device isn't objectively better than the other, unless there happens to be a major problem with one. They each have their own pros and cons, most are subjective at this point. Only you know which ones matter most to you, and can make the decision using that information. Both are fine devices (once again assuming there is nothing majorly wrong with the Moto X), and I think a lot of customers would be happy with either.
Personally I would pick the Nexus 6 for 3 reasons.
The display, it being AMOLED and larger are both pluses to me. I have grown to love the 6" display, the bigger the better at this point.
It being a Nexus, gives me the ability to get updates quicker than other phones as well as it being easily rootable and ROMable.
Lastly, my carrier T-Mobile in the US officially supports the N6 meaning I get band 12 and wifi-calling functionality.
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. . . about the Moto X that we don't have information about yet.
One device isn't objectively better than the other. . .
. . .carrier T-Mobile in the US officially supports the N6 meaning I get band 12 and wifi-calling functionality.
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Agree, it is a personal choice. It is difficult to say something about a phone that is not available yet,
In my view it is the subjective way of choosing.
OP wants probably make a choice by comparing phones.
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The battery life could be phenominal, or it could suck.
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Agreed. I presume battery life will be worse on M2015S than on Nexus 6, because it uses TFT and have a 3000mAh, while N6 has amoled and 3220mAh.
I dont think how could it be better, really. :angel:
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On that note, what if there are major flaws with the device that we dont' know about, and may not until release. Display defects, camera defects, build quality issues or software bugs that looking at a spec sheet won't tell us.
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Totally agreed. :highfive:
cupfulloflol said:
Chipset. They are similar. Unless you are a really heavy user, or a gamer there probably won't be a noticeable difference between the two. We are at a point now where many devices perform similarly even though technically one is faster. The Nexus 6 is technically faster than the Nexus 5, but they perform similarly for most of the basic tasks people would do. Same with the Moto G which has a low end processor, but it should be able to send Snapchats, Instagram, and stream Spotify just as well as any device out now or coming in the near future.
One device isn't objectively better than the other, unless there happens to be a major problem with one. They each have their own pros and cons, most are subjective at this point. Only you know which ones matter most to you, and can make the decision using that information. Both are fine devices (once again assuming there is nothing majorly wrong with the Moto X), and I think a lot of customers would be happy with either.
Personally I would pick the Nexus 6 for 3 reasons.
The display, it being AMOLED and larger are both pluses to me. I have grown to love the 6" display, the bigger the better at this point.
It being a Nexus, gives me the ability to get updates quicker than other phones as well as it being easily rootable and ROMable.
Lastly, my carrier T-Mobile in the US officially supports the N6 meaning I get band 12 and wifi-calling functionality.
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I think the comparison is worthy because both gadgets aim at the same kind of user. The one which like pure android and large screens. Besides M2015S isnt already out, I think somethings are presumable.
Other things, I think that requires a clearer understanding about 32bits vs 64bits (which I dont have)... For example, I use Onenote and Evernote a LOT daily. Dont know if it will be smooth on both cellphones while I use heavy notebooks with many data on these apps.
Technically, I dont know if a 64bits processor will make such difference in that case, or if it just about a well fitted Android - which Im not sure, because it implicates in RAM usage and data processing (maybe the difference between SD808 and SD805 is so slight that even in that case, as you said, they will perform similarly).
Objectively, Im more concerned on SOT + big screen + smoothness using apps with many graphics and texts.