[Q] Note 4 vs N6 (SD805) - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So with both phones packing the same CPU+GPU combo, does this mean the (American) Note 4 is Android L ready, by that I mean is it ready for ART? Because if Google is packing the 805 in the N6, it should be 64 bit ready right? Can this be said about the Note 4 as well because of the identical chips?
Thanks

The 805 is 32-bit.
The Note 4 will get the Android L update sometime in the upcoming few months.

Yea thats just weird for me to understand as Google is preparing to head towards 64 bit but chose a 32 bit processor.

almost 90% of apps on desktop are 32bit, the need for 64bit is really not for standard, everyday apps. It's just the hype, guys.

There already is a Note 4 vs N6 thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
Please ask your question there and in the future ask your questions in the Q&A instead of the General section.
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Samsung galaxy S5 specs

Please post any speculations about the S5 specs.
1080p or 4k display amoled
16 core
Android key lime pie
64gb storage
4K resolution screen expandable up to 56" via flexible graphene technology
7.1 surround sound speakers
32 core bigLITTLE CPU
SLI graphics
Direct brain interface for HUD and audio overlay over reality plus telepathic hands free communication and control
Spoiler
Of course I'm taking the piss, this is an utterly pointless thread.
Qualcomm snapdragon 16 cores - 2.6Ghz
5.3 Inch Full Hd Display with Gorilla Glass 4
4GB Ram
Baets by Dre (or Eminem) :laugh:
32/64/126GB Memory
16Mp Camera
3800Mah Battery
And most importand Metal Body.
Useless, NON meaningful, lousy sh!t thread!
300 gb internal
69 cores
50 gb ram
A brain
The ability to use the brain
The abiltity to use the brain in a smart way- S smart
Ability to create fire
Ability to fly
Another extra brain
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why are you trolling my thread?
Why are u making this thread ?
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Well this thread will probably get locked anyways - BUT.
3 Million Core CPU - 4 of them.
Liquid Nitrogen cooling.
18K Resolution SAMOLED display.
Trillion Cuda cores nvidia titan GPU.
192837 Million mAh Battery.
Yeah , I know this thread is pointless and the specs he even mentioned are ridiculous for now.
Skander1998 said:
Yeah , I know this thread is pointless and the specs he even mentioned are ridiculous for now.
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That's what people said about 1080p and 8 cores on a photo two years ago.
FinancialWar said:
That's what people said about 1080p and 8 cores on a photo two years ago.
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"FOR NOW" - Read it again
That stuff isn't for 2013 - 2014 bro
Skander1998 said:
"FOR NOW" - Read it again
That stuff isn't for 2013 - 2014 bro
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what do you mean it isn't for 2014? S5 is a 2014 product. Go learn some arithmetic...
FinancialWar said:
what do you mean it isn't for 2014? S5 is a 2014 product. Go learn some arithmetic...
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*facepalm* My brain is starting to hurt - I'm talking about the specs and NO, you won't see 16 core CPU's in 2014 - neither this year 2013.
Man you hurt my brain.
Skander1998 said:
*facepalm* My brain is starting to hurt - I'm talking about the specs and NO, you won't see 16 core CPU's in 2014 - neither this year 2013.
Man you hurt my brain.
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Since you can't do simple arithmetic, I see why this might hurt your brain cells.
1 cores, 2 cores, 4 cores, 8 cores ....
Applying simple geometric sequence equation a*r^(n-1), where a is the first term, r is the common ratio.
Since a = 1, r = 2, therefore the number of cores in the nth generation phone is 1*2^(n-1) = 2^(n-1)
number of cores in S5 will be
= 2^(5-1) = 16 cores
number of cores in S10 will be
= 2^(10-1) = 512 cores
Did your brain explode?
Welcome to XDA 2013, where 13 y'old trolls hang around :3
One of the main reasons I don't even bother developing and sharing my work here.
PS: Facepalm at doubling the cores - I owe you 100$ if the S5 comes with 16 CPU cores.
Not trolling ... why would someone create a thread about next year's product ? We all know this thread is going to get closed ..
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This thread pisses me off
It's pointless you should be more concerned about your s4 if you even have one mate
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chubby65 said:
This thread pisses me off
It's pointless you should be more concerned about your s4 if you even have one mate
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why would I want a S4 when I have the Note 2? S5 could be a good candidate to replace my Note 2 but not S4.
FinancialWar said:
why would I want a S4 when I have the Note 2? S5 could be a good candidate to replace my Note 2 but not S4.
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No chance
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Plutonium battery
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Thread Closed and Cleaned...this thread has ran its course....

Please suggest me good phone in 11k

I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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walpanmad said:
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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none at that price ...
yah you can get one of from your list but they will have certainly some issues so either accept them or increase your budget or reduce yr wish list.
simple understanding that if google sell it's nexus 5 at 28-30k with your requirement ... and google is one company which has lowest profit margin with highest specs... then how can you wish that all these "cheap product makers" can provide you those specs at less than half price ... so deal with that they surely comes with problems...
in my opinion f you don't want to increae budget go for moto G ... it don't have high specs which you wised but it's gr8 phone and no problem ...you won't regret ( PS: it doesn't come with gyrometer so No Photospehere )
Don't create thread for personal and not sgsa related Question we already have OT thread + Q&A thread
Go to G2
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Look for LG L90. Quad Core 1.2ghz processor. Android 4.4.2 KitKat.
I see noce development (for me its nice). I think he will get android L.
And he is olso really cheap.
But 1gb of ram.
walpanmad said:
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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jineshpatel30 said:
in my opinion f you don't want to increae budget go for moto G ... it don't have high specs which you wised but it's gr8 phone and no problem ...you won't regret ( PS: it doesn't come with gyrometer so No Photospehere )
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Just found that MOTO G (2014) have gyroscope also so photo-sphere will also work + Motorola conformed that it'll get Lollipop update... so now it's ultimate pack at that price:laugh:
Finally i gone with Panasonic eluga u in 15k because i just want 2gb ram phone wich really needs any android phone for reason of its performance and multitasking
2 gb ram 16 gb internal memory 32 gb expandable 1.2 quad-core snapdragon 400 processor with 305 adreno gpu 720 p hd ogs ips lcd screen with Android kitkat 4.4.2.
I don't know it's right decision to buy this one but i really feel power in my hand now all heavy apps running smoothly no lag no hang
So no need for development for this phone no update for lollipop is disapointing but when performance matters i don't need that
walpanmad said:
Finally i gone with Panasonic eluga u in 15k because i just want 2gb ram phone wich really needs any android phone for reason of its performance and multitasking
2 gb ram 16 gb internal memory 32 gb expandable 1.2 quad-core snapdragon 400 processor with 305 adreno gpu 720 p hd ogs ips lcd screen with Android kitkat 4.4.2.
I don't know it's right decision to buy this one but i really feel power in my hand now all heavy apps running smoothly no lag no hang
So no need for development for this phone no update for lollipop is disapointing but when performance matters i don't need that
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You should have gone to GALAXY GRAND PRIME its a 64 bit processor smartphone with snapdragon 410, maybe 64 bit processors are the future of android
64 bit processor grand prime cant able to play modern combat 4 and alsphat 8

[Q] So the Nexus 6 is 32-bit, what are the actual implications?

I've seen a handful of messages both here and on reddit lamenting the fact that the Nexus 6 is a 32-bit device. What all of these posts have in common is a lack of information: what does 32-bit vs 64-bit actually mean for day-to-day use and what are the practical implications?
Will the lack of 64-bit turn out to be a big deal within 2 years? How?
there's no way of telling. the first 64-bit Android device is the Nexus 9 and it's too new to tell any implications for the next year, let alone two.
as far as we know, it's schrodinger's cat... until there are 64-bit phones in the market, we'll neither know, nor not know, what we actually get.
It took apple a year (since the release of 64bit on the iPhone 5) to enforce 64bit code change for all apps... So likely you won't be hearing about 64 bit android apps probably until early 2016. Even then, the adoption rate will be gradual and slow until the majority of 32 bit handsets are phased out.

how to buy a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 with 64 bits CPU?

Hi everyone!
I want to buy the tablet Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 for its amazing screen, but the 64bits world is already here.
I checked that the only versions with a 64 bits cpu are just SM-T805S, SM-T805K, and SM-T805L with the Exynos 5433 in Korea.
Does anyone know where to buy it without going in person to Korea?
Or does anyone know if there is another version(s) with 64bits cpu and where to buy it?
Thanks!
Why do you want a 64 bit CPU?
codified said:
Why do you want a 64 bit CPU?
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I'll bet he doesn't even know. Saying 64 "bits" tells me he isn't very knowledgeable with technology. He just heard it from somewhere.
bloodrain954 said:
I'll bet he doesn't even know. Saying 64 "bits" tells me he isn't very knowledgeable with technology. He just heard it from somewhere.
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Or you can just be nice and explain to him why the 64 bit version won't garner him any real world benefits right now...:highfive:
wow!! how nice people are around here!!!
even if I dont have very high knowledge in technologies, you just have to write on google "64 bits android" to really know that 64 bits in android is not making any high difference now. So it doesnt really matter and whoever can know that. But at the same time, you can also see that there are some improvements and other "stuff" (typical word that some of my kind use) that will be useful soon while the rest of the techolopy (or technoloki... or how was the word? oh yes! = t-e-c-h-n-o-l-o-g-y ) is progressing.
I am not very advanced and thats why I am writing here, sorry that I didnt passed the test to write here.
Anyway, my only stupid reason why I want a 64 bits CPU is because of the money. Coz I dont have a lot. And I am the kind of person that tries to buy something that will last many years coz I cant afford to change deviced regularly. I bought my last laptop 10 years ago, it worked 7 years... and since then, there is no laptop. But my personal life is not the matter, and I am not asking about laptops or why I want a tablet now.
But I need a tablet that will last untill burns, and the "64bits world" is starting developing and in two years or so... I dont want to have a tablet that I cant use with something because 32 bits doesnt supported... but this is just an opinion anyway...
All 'new' tablets will last for a long time. 64 bit won't make a difference. If you feel it does, get the nexus 9. But even Google knows 32bit devices won't be going anywhere for a LONG time. Hence the reason the Nexus 6 is "only" using a 32bit processor. I'll be busy currently enjoying my brand new 32bit tablet
Just order online nuff said!
Sorry, didn't mean to make you feel stupid. I ask the question because a lot of people go blindly seeking the latest marketing term without realising what it means
64-bit processors are the new craze since Apple released one and had all the publicity about it
But it doesn't add much at all, and it won't future-proof your phone like you might think it would
This is a good article to read:
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-64-bit-32-bit-android-l-536280/
Anyway, the Exynos 5433 processor that you are talking about is technically 64 bit architecture but will only run in 32 bit mode, so you aren't really getting any of the advantages of 64 bit. You will have to wait for the Exynos 7420 for true 64-bit performance.
codified said:
Sorry, didn't mean to make you feel stupid. I ask the question because a lot of people go blindly seeking the latest marketing term without realising what it means
64-bit processors are the new craze since Apple released one and had all the publicity about it
But it doesn't add much at all, and it won't future-proof your phone like you might think it would
This is a good article to read:
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-64-bit-32-bit-android-l-536280/
Anyway, the Exynos 5433 processor that you are talking about is technically 64 bit architecture but will only run in 32 bit mode, so you aren't really getting any of the advantages of 64 bit. You will have to wait for the Exynos 7420 for true 64-bit performance.
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You are right, 64-Bit processors are only really beneficial if you have the added memory to make good use of them, Apple's was only a gimmick when you consider they still only come with 1gb of RAM whereas most other devices not coming from Apple have 2gb or more.
lorinkundert said:
You are right, 64-Bit processors are only really beneficial if you have the added memory to make good use of them, Apple's was only a gimmick when you consider they still only come with 1gb of RAM whereas most other devices not coming from Apple have 2gb or more.
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Thats not true. A 64-Bit processor have more registers and handle processing generally faster than the 32-Bit, even if you don't run any 64-Bit code on it.
caravana said:
Thats not true. A 64-Bit processor have more registers and handle processing generally faster than the 32-Bit, even if you don't run any 64-Bit code on it.
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Not without more RAM it doesn't, I design mobile devices so I have a ton of experience.
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Not without more RAM it doesn't, I design mobile devices so I have a ton of experience.
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RAM has nothing to do with the processors architecture, and with all due respect, your experience is not an argument. About the ARM 64-Bit architecture I can quote the AnandTech guys here:
Architecturally, the Cortex A57 is much like a tweaked Cortex A15 with 64-bit support. The CPU is still a 3-wide/3-issue machine with a 15+ stage pipeline. ARM has increased the width of NEON execution units in the Cortex A57 (128-bits wide now?) as well as enabled support for IEEE-754 DP FP. There have been some other minor pipeline enhancements as well. The end result is up to a 20 - 30% increase in performance over the Cortex A15 while running 32-bit code. Running 64-bit code you'll see an additional performance advantage as the 64-bit register file is far simplified compared to the 32-bit RF.
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And here AnandTech does detailed arm 32bit vs 64bit performance comparison:
The conclusion? There are definitely reasons outside of needing more memory to go 64-bit.
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So yes, the ARM 64-bit architecture is generally faster than the 32-bit counterpart, because of enhancements that does not depend on the amount of RAM available.
lorinkundert said:
Not without more RAM it doesn't, I design mobile devices so I have a ton of experience.
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I have a feeling you don't.
to take full advantage of a 64-bit processor you'd need an operating system that is also 64-bit as well, more than 4GB of ram (since 32-bit has a limitation of 4GB ram), and apps that are 64-bit.
For the pace of technology I'd say applications in the server-world (SQL and stuff) have fully taken advantage of 64-bit architecture for 10ish years, desktops maybe in the past 6 or 7 years.
It really depends on what type of programs you're using because certain things use the CPU, other's use the GPU. This being for games and such.
Apps like MX Player would take advantage of the CPU. ART in Android Lollipop will do us well. Bottom line- way too many factors but I don't think anything coming out on Android will make good use of a 64-bit architecture for a few more years. I mean, anything that would need 64-bits is really a battle with "is this a battery-friendly app or some intense app that should really be on a desktop?" or something. 64-bit just isn't needed right now. Personally, I like when developers focus on making programs that work best in a low power environment like a mobile device architecture.
You're buying an octacore tablet which is the most high-end device right now. I'd say Android and the hardware won't get much more fancier fancier for the next year or 2 and, TBH, this tablet won't start feeling sluggish for maybe 4 or 5 years as far as technology typically progresses.
Here's a video by Linus Tech tips detailing 64 bit vs 32 bit in a more layman term:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IknbgnJLSRY
Thanks for your messages.
After reading all and watching videos... I see that 64bit is not a big difference now, but it won't be for a very long time either... so it will be a little bit like the current situation in deskpots: even if 64bits is generally seen in everything, everything (almost) is still compatible with 32 bits and companies still give support to 32 bits...
and, on top of everything, if the "highest" option with this tablet is the exynos 5433 64 bits but only runs in 32bits mode... it makes no sense.
so, according to this, my question would be: how this tablet is going to handle Android Lollipop with the exynos 5420? I mean, how does the exynos 5420 (32 bits) handle android lollipop (64bits)?
There is a 64 bit option on my kernel configuration file for Note Edge 5433 and if enabled + unlocked 64 bit bootloader + firmware = winner. The 5433 Tab S is the same and has been deliberately crippled by Samsung to keep it on par with the crappy Snapdragon 805 which won't be ready for 64 bit until mid-next year. Even then, SD performance and potential doesn't even come close to the Exynos.

A look at the leaked Lollipop TouchWiz build.

A look at the leaked Lollipop build on the Note 3. Should be pretty much the same for the Note 4.
Looks very nice indeed! Especially the Dialer, Settings overview and Previews look much better than on 4.4.4.
Very promising!
http://www.androidauthority.com/loo...ational-install-instructions-included-576552/
Nice nice.
Which someone would v port the Lockean
I personally don't like the Vanilla flavor of Lollipop on my Nexus 7, the TouchWiz overlay is essential to complete Lollipop. :good:
I've got the leaked L build flashed on my Note 3 (N9005) since Christmas Eve, timing couldn't be better.
It performs way more fluidly and consistently than the Note 4 (N910C) on 4.4.4. If this is what Lollipop brings to the table for Android, I can't wait until the OTA drops. Samsung, it's 2015, and your flagship's been waiting months!
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I've got the leaked L build flashed on my Note 3 (N9005) since Christmas Eve, timing couldn't be better.
It performs way more fluidly and consistently than the Note 4 (N910C) on 4.4.4. If this is what Lollipop brings to the table for Android, I can't wait until the OTA drops. Samsung, it's 2015, and your flagship's been waiting months!
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Don't nag! Does your Note 4 only work on 5.0?
I experienced lollipop on my S5 and I isn't that fluid at all, now having a note 4 I hope it will be.Shame there are no news when it will be released....
Lollipop users - is the calculator bug still there?
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Don't nag! Does your Note 4 only work on 5.0?
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when it's up to me it has nothing to do with nagging, this is a discussion site. My Note 4 just isn't fluid in daily use and my fingerprint scanner is more a gimmick than a useful feature. Reading the posts about 5.0 being more fluid i'm also waiting for this update. Until then I almost don't install any software. I'm still not sure if selling my Note 3 was a wise decision.
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when it's up to me it has nothing to do with nagging, this is a discussion site. My Note 4 just isn't fluid in daily use and my fingerprint scanner is more a gimmick than a useful feature. Reading the posts about 5.0 being more fluid i'm also waiting for this update. Until then I almost don't install any software. I'm still not sure if selling my Note 3 was a wise decision.
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if your note 4 is not fluid with stock then either it needs a reset or probably something wrong with your device
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I personally don't like the Vanilla flavor of Lollipop on my Nexus 7, the TouchWiz overlay is essential to complete Lollipop. :good:
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I'm the opposite. I'm loving Lollipop vanilla but I cry and cringe every time I see or use TouchWiz.
I just wish someone would leak the Note 4 TW Lollipop build soon. Or at least Samsung release it. I just can't stand the lag on 4.4.4 TW. Most of all the multitasking switcher.
I think Note 3 is better than Note 4 because its better optimized system and we will see if it'll change with Lollipop for the Note 4, but this is always going to be this way on newer devices. Note 3 works for me much better and is fluently than the 4 is @ this time.
I find the recent apps menu to work flawlessly on my note N910F...idk why so many people have problems with that.
dede99 said:
I think Note 3 is better than Note 4 because its better optimized system and we will see if it'll change with Lollipop for the Note 4, but this is always going to be this way on newer devices. Note 3 works for me much better and is fluently than the 4 is @ this time.
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Which variant of Note 3 and Note 4 are you talking about? I had a Note 3 Snapdragon and now I have an Exynos Note 4 and surely Note 4 is smoother, faster and has a little better battery life.I am very satified and Lollipop is around the corner to perfect the expierience
Both Snapdragon but I would'n say the CPU makes the difference since Note 3 is working perfectly. I'm not saying the Note 4 is bad, but the Note 3 is working better on stock ROM's.
My old snapdragon note 3 is wiped nothing installed and on latest stock. Its definetly worse than my exynos note 4 and not even close.
And old touchwiz just sucks slow and laggy i wouldnt buy note 4 if they didnt change it.
is the leaked build 64 bit ? 64 bit kernel for exynos with armv8 instruction set ?
Nope, Samsung will not be adding 64-bit support for the note 4 most likely nor for the note 3...
dede99 said:
I think Note 3 is better than Note 4 because its better optimized system and we will see if it'll change with Lollipop for the Note 4, but this is always going to be this way on newer devices. Note 3 works for me much better and is fluently than the 4 is @ this time.
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You have right I find the note 3 also better than note 4 much more stable in performance and feeling
how would u know? do u work for samsung? i think not.. oh and the note 3 DOES NOT have a 64bit chip. please dont flood with useless wrong information

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