Hi everyone!
I want to buy the tablet Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 for its amazing screen, but the 64bits world is already here.
I checked that the only versions with a 64 bits cpu are just SM-T805S, SM-T805K, and SM-T805L with the Exynos 5433 in Korea.
Does anyone know where to buy it without going in person to Korea?
Or does anyone know if there is another version(s) with 64bits cpu and where to buy it?
Thanks!
Why do you want a 64 bit CPU?
codified said:
Why do you want a 64 bit CPU?
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I'll bet he doesn't even know. Saying 64 "bits" tells me he isn't very knowledgeable with technology. He just heard it from somewhere.
bloodrain954 said:
I'll bet he doesn't even know. Saying 64 "bits" tells me he isn't very knowledgeable with technology. He just heard it from somewhere.
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Or you can just be nice and explain to him why the 64 bit version won't garner him any real world benefits right now...:highfive:
wow!! how nice people are around here!!!
even if I dont have very high knowledge in technologies, you just have to write on google "64 bits android" to really know that 64 bits in android is not making any high difference now. So it doesnt really matter and whoever can know that. But at the same time, you can also see that there are some improvements and other "stuff" (typical word that some of my kind use) that will be useful soon while the rest of the techolopy (or technoloki... or how was the word? oh yes! = t-e-c-h-n-o-l-o-g-y ) is progressing.
I am not very advanced and thats why I am writing here, sorry that I didnt passed the test to write here.
Anyway, my only stupid reason why I want a 64 bits CPU is because of the money. Coz I dont have a lot. And I am the kind of person that tries to buy something that will last many years coz I cant afford to change deviced regularly. I bought my last laptop 10 years ago, it worked 7 years... and since then, there is no laptop. But my personal life is not the matter, and I am not asking about laptops or why I want a tablet now.
But I need a tablet that will last untill burns, and the "64bits world" is starting developing and in two years or so... I dont want to have a tablet that I cant use with something because 32 bits doesnt supported... but this is just an opinion anyway...
All 'new' tablets will last for a long time. 64 bit won't make a difference. If you feel it does, get the nexus 9. But even Google knows 32bit devices won't be going anywhere for a LONG time. Hence the reason the Nexus 6 is "only" using a 32bit processor. I'll be busy currently enjoying my brand new 32bit tablet
Just order online nuff said!
Sorry, didn't mean to make you feel stupid. I ask the question because a lot of people go blindly seeking the latest marketing term without realising what it means
64-bit processors are the new craze since Apple released one and had all the publicity about it
But it doesn't add much at all, and it won't future-proof your phone like you might think it would
This is a good article to read:
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-64-bit-32-bit-android-l-536280/
Anyway, the Exynos 5433 processor that you are talking about is technically 64 bit architecture but will only run in 32 bit mode, so you aren't really getting any of the advantages of 64 bit. You will have to wait for the Exynos 7420 for true 64-bit performance.
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Sorry, didn't mean to make you feel stupid. I ask the question because a lot of people go blindly seeking the latest marketing term without realising what it means
64-bit processors are the new craze since Apple released one and had all the publicity about it
But it doesn't add much at all, and it won't future-proof your phone like you might think it would
This is a good article to read:
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-64-bit-32-bit-android-l-536280/
Anyway, the Exynos 5433 processor that you are talking about is technically 64 bit architecture but will only run in 32 bit mode, so you aren't really getting any of the advantages of 64 bit. You will have to wait for the Exynos 7420 for true 64-bit performance.
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You are right, 64-Bit processors are only really beneficial if you have the added memory to make good use of them, Apple's was only a gimmick when you consider they still only come with 1gb of RAM whereas most other devices not coming from Apple have 2gb or more.
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You are right, 64-Bit processors are only really beneficial if you have the added memory to make good use of them, Apple's was only a gimmick when you consider they still only come with 1gb of RAM whereas most other devices not coming from Apple have 2gb or more.
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Thats not true. A 64-Bit processor have more registers and handle processing generally faster than the 32-Bit, even if you don't run any 64-Bit code on it.
caravana said:
Thats not true. A 64-Bit processor have more registers and handle processing generally faster than the 32-Bit, even if you don't run any 64-Bit code on it.
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Not without more RAM it doesn't, I design mobile devices so I have a ton of experience.
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Not without more RAM it doesn't, I design mobile devices so I have a ton of experience.
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RAM has nothing to do with the processors architecture, and with all due respect, your experience is not an argument. About the ARM 64-Bit architecture I can quote the AnandTech guys here:
Architecturally, the Cortex A57 is much like a tweaked Cortex A15 with 64-bit support. The CPU is still a 3-wide/3-issue machine with a 15+ stage pipeline. ARM has increased the width of NEON execution units in the Cortex A57 (128-bits wide now?) as well as enabled support for IEEE-754 DP FP. There have been some other minor pipeline enhancements as well. The end result is up to a 20 - 30% increase in performance over the Cortex A15 while running 32-bit code. Running 64-bit code you'll see an additional performance advantage as the 64-bit register file is far simplified compared to the 32-bit RF.
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And here AnandTech does detailed arm 32bit vs 64bit performance comparison:
The conclusion? There are definitely reasons outside of needing more memory to go 64-bit.
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So yes, the ARM 64-bit architecture is generally faster than the 32-bit counterpart, because of enhancements that does not depend on the amount of RAM available.
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Not without more RAM it doesn't, I design mobile devices so I have a ton of experience.
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I have a feeling you don't.
to take full advantage of a 64-bit processor you'd need an operating system that is also 64-bit as well, more than 4GB of ram (since 32-bit has a limitation of 4GB ram), and apps that are 64-bit.
For the pace of technology I'd say applications in the server-world (SQL and stuff) have fully taken advantage of 64-bit architecture for 10ish years, desktops maybe in the past 6 or 7 years.
It really depends on what type of programs you're using because certain things use the CPU, other's use the GPU. This being for games and such.
Apps like MX Player would take advantage of the CPU. ART in Android Lollipop will do us well. Bottom line- way too many factors but I don't think anything coming out on Android will make good use of a 64-bit architecture for a few more years. I mean, anything that would need 64-bits is really a battle with "is this a battery-friendly app or some intense app that should really be on a desktop?" or something. 64-bit just isn't needed right now. Personally, I like when developers focus on making programs that work best in a low power environment like a mobile device architecture.
You're buying an octacore tablet which is the most high-end device right now. I'd say Android and the hardware won't get much more fancier fancier for the next year or 2 and, TBH, this tablet won't start feeling sluggish for maybe 4 or 5 years as far as technology typically progresses.
Here's a video by Linus Tech tips detailing 64 bit vs 32 bit in a more layman term:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IknbgnJLSRY
Thanks for your messages.
After reading all and watching videos... I see that 64bit is not a big difference now, but it won't be for a very long time either... so it will be a little bit like the current situation in deskpots: even if 64bits is generally seen in everything, everything (almost) is still compatible with 32 bits and companies still give support to 32 bits...
and, on top of everything, if the "highest" option with this tablet is the exynos 5433 64 bits but only runs in 32bits mode... it makes no sense.
so, according to this, my question would be: how this tablet is going to handle Android Lollipop with the exynos 5420? I mean, how does the exynos 5420 (32 bits) handle android lollipop (64bits)?
There is a 64 bit option on my kernel configuration file for Note Edge 5433 and if enabled + unlocked 64 bit bootloader + firmware = winner. The 5433 Tab S is the same and has been deliberately crippled by Samsung to keep it on par with the crappy Snapdragon 805 which won't be ready for 64 bit until mid-next year. Even then, SD performance and potential doesn't even come close to the Exynos.
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why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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because Microsoft only support the "old" snapdragon .
why apple customers don't ask them the same question , they use the same GPU as what is in 3gs a year ago ,
a second thing wp7 is developed on the snapdragon which is more than enough for now with it's improved drivers and direct x 9 support , it will perform even 2x better than a DHD with 8255 processor
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but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
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Sorry I'm the one that had to break the news, but there is always something better coming...
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why apple customers don't ask them the same question , they use the same GPU as what is in 3gs a year ago ,
a second thing wp7 is developed on the snapdragon which is more than enough for now with it's improved drivers and direct x 9 support , it will perform even 2x better than a DHD with 8255 processor
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t3rm3y said:
why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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I have an HD7, it is lag free and very responsive, I think the processor will be up to the task as long as the coding is optimal.
Because having the next most powerful processor isn't important. It doesn't matter what kinda specs a device is running s long as the device runs well. Apple has proved that.
And from what I have seen, MP7 runs beautifully.
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Because having the next most powerful processor isn't important. It doesn't matter what kinda specs a device is running s long as the device runs well. Apple has proved that.
And from what I have seen, MP7 runs beautifully.
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True that.
Old processor?
Maybe this is a bad news to you, but it's good to me cause of my hd2.
I probably would have been crying about the same thing, if technology was growing by leaps and bounds. But its not right now, technology is kinda stagnate as of lately. Yes, the HD7 has the same processor as its predecessor the HD2, but its not a bad thing. especially now that the new rom has came out for the HD2, it feels faster than ever (you can go on the HD2 and Leo boards to attest for yourself). Another thing to remember, is that the new Windows Phone 7, is not an OS that needs a 2Ghz processor to run buttery smooth. I think that we are used to the PC ideology that the next thing should have a higher number than the last, in order to be considered and respectable upgrade. But even those Intel and AMD processors, reached their, threshold for raw computing power (for now) and the companies are now refining their codes, and drivers, in order to utilize and maximize peak performance out of what they already have. (That's why 4Ghz desktop processors aren't mainstream yet)
Another thing is the WP7 is standardized with base set requirements for internal specs. I truly doubt that you'll find a noticeable difference between all the launch devices behavior with the OS, because of their processors. The mail screen might open up a little quicker on one device, but again, that could be a driver code magic for the display adapter in a particular phone, so the one that "wins" in our mind, should have been the "newer, speedier" processor but because of the refinement and more developed drivers, the one that displayed the inbox quicker was the "older" processor. (I hope you guys got that...lol)
So what I'm trying to say at the end of the day, is it really doesn't matter about the processor spec, because whats inside the HD7 is more than plenty to run the OS and its apps very very nicely.
I've seen a handful of messages both here and on reddit lamenting the fact that the Nexus 6 is a 32-bit device. What all of these posts have in common is a lack of information: what does 32-bit vs 64-bit actually mean for day-to-day use and what are the practical implications?
Will the lack of 64-bit turn out to be a big deal within 2 years? How?
there's no way of telling. the first 64-bit Android device is the Nexus 9 and it's too new to tell any implications for the next year, let alone two.
as far as we know, it's schrodinger's cat... until there are 64-bit phones in the market, we'll neither know, nor not know, what we actually get.
It took apple a year (since the release of 64bit on the iPhone 5) to enforce 64bit code change for all apps... So likely you won't be hearing about 64 bit android apps probably until early 2016. Even then, the adoption rate will be gradual and slow until the majority of 32 bit handsets are phased out.
Edit: Campaign Link Available: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/166919191/we-want-64-bit-android-on-our-note-4-and-tab-s2-97
Hi all,
As the proud owner of a Note 4, I am a digital enthusiast looking to facilitate my life as much as possible. I expect high performance, faultless experience and plenty of organisational functionalities.
Having chosen deliberately for the Exynos-version, I am also tech savvy and willing to pay an extra buck for a machine that will do the extra mile, both in speed and distance.
You can imagine my disappointment when I figured out that the Exynos 5433-version ships with a 32-bit Android, without a 64-bit update in sight. My extra buck down the drain, stuck with a 2 year long feeling of having paid a vast sum of money for an ‘old’ device.
After having browsed the fora and blog posts, I’ve seen I’m not the only one. Realising that this is ‘only’ a matter of code, I can not help but feeling we can solve this! (Samsung, if not, then this will have been my last Samsung device).
I've launched a kickstarter campaign where I want to find 1000 users, backing the campaign with €1 for 2 goals:
1) Gather all interested Note 4 and Tab S2 9.7 owners who want a 64-bit operating system to pressure Samsung with a high amount of discontent customers to release the bootloader source code..
2) Gather money to donate to a recognised developer that can make a 64-bit bootloader, once Samsung has released the bootloader source code.
With this tread, I’d like to ask those interested to join and spread the word! Together, we can win this
You can find the project on kickstarter.com by searching with "64 bit". You'll see the "we want android 64 bit for our exynos "- project.
I am sure that together, we can win this!
Dapollez
I would count myself happy if we even get the leaked revamped tw with 6.o. But don't give up. ?
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Might be unfair for snapdragon users, but hey, i bought my note4 for the 64bit capability. so count me in!
? Great Idea !
I m in
I must say that the respons is not what I'd epected. We won't make it this way.
Anybody any idea's on how to bring this under the attention? I would have loved to have posted in under the Exynos-development section, but I'm not allowed.
@moderator: Since timing is everything,it would be good to point people to the kickstater campaign on the first read of this post. Could you please allow me to add the link to the post (or do it yourself?) I've contacted 2 moderators, no reply yet.
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Sure why not, I really like to have this as it will make porting easier as I think
Is 64bit even worth it ? I thought it is worth when you have at least 4gb of ram
Finally someone just said wat I feel Iam completely supporting a man for 2 yearsnow and Iam waiting For someone in xda to succeed in activating 64 bit exynos note 4 , Don't giveup .
So what will that goal achieve? the figure showing that the phone is 64bit? Does it provide tangible improvements, will the phone perform better and consume less battery. To my knowledge it will do no such thing and I can only imagine how many men hours it will take to port all the libraries, kernel, bootloader, I fail to see the benefits.
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So what will that goal achieve? the figure showing that the phone is 64bit? Does it provide tangible improvements, will the phone perform better and consume less battery. To my knowledge it will do no such thing and I can only imagine how many men hours it will take to port all the libraries, kernel, bootloader, I fail to see the benefits.
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The discussion whether 64 bit brings extra performance or not has been held on several other places, on XDA and elsewhere. I'd like to try to keep this post about the campaign as clean as possible to enthusiast as many as possible.
We will take advantage of ARMv8 architecture, both for CPU and GPU. So there will be a performance gain. How big remains to be proven. Besides this It's a matter of principle.
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The discussion whether 64 bit brings extra performance or not has been held on several other places, on XDA and elsewhere. I'd like to try to keep this post about the campaign as clean as possible to enthusiast as many as possible.
We will take advantage of ARMv8 architecture, both for CPU and GPU. So there will be a performance gain. How big remains to be proven. Besides this It's a matter of principle.
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Im pretty sure there wont be any change. You allready have advantage of armv8( it has nothing to do with 64 bit) im using s6 edge and performance difference is very minimal even with overclocked cpu. I bet there wont be even 1% performance change but ram usage will be higher around 15% percent cuz of 64 bit so i hope note 4 sticks with 32 bit.
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Im pretty sure there wont be any change. You allready have advantage of armv8( it has nothing to do with 64 bit) im using s6 edge and performance difference is very minimal even with overclocked cpu. I bet there wont be even 1% performance change but ram usage will be higher around 15% percent cuz of 64 bit so i hope note 4 sticks with 32 bit.
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Then what about the benchmark scores ?
& overall performance ?
Whatever it may be , I think it should be available because exynos 5433 is 64bit supported.
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Then what about the benchmark scores ?
& overall performance ?
Whatever it may be , I think it should be available because exynos 5433 is 64bit supported.
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Which benchmark scores? Antutu has the biggest difference and its a bull**** benchmark anyway. And gpu is more powerful on 7420. Other benchmarks just about frequency difference 200 mhz overclock performance gain and its not that big for example 5433 get 1300/4600 on geekbench 7420 gets around 1500/5200. Thats all. About daily usage its just same for me i even tried it now app launchs etc almost same web pages load almost same.
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Which benchmark scores? Antutu has the biggest difference and its a bull**** benchmark anyway. And gpu is more powerful on 7420. Other benchmarks just about frequency difference 200 mhz overclock performance gain and its not that big for example 5433 get 1300/4600 on geekbench 7420 gets around 1500/5200. Thats all. About daily usage its just same for me i even tried it now app launchs etc almost same web pages load almost same.
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Nah its not about oc.even if u can oc your cpu now to the same freq on 7420 the score wouldn't be the same. Cuz 7420 have diffrent CPU*architecture . and 7420 will be better because it would have the latest CPU*architecture. Soo yeah
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Nah its not about oc.even if u can oc your cpu now to the same freq on 7420 the score wouldn't be the same. Cuz 7420 have diffrent CPU*architecture . and 7420 will be better because it would have the latest CPU*architecture. Soo yeah
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Not its just same cpu architecture both cortex a57 only difference is in production 1 is 20 nm 1 is 14 nm. And it doesnt effect performance directly it just gives you a thermal space so they can overclock cpu to 2.1 ghz like in 7420 basically you cant overclock 5433 to 2.1 its just too much for it in 20 nm.
Btw we are talking about 64 bit not cpus itself. And whatever i use both of them anyway and i dont think 7420 worths anything 2015 is just waste for me imho.
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Not its just same cpu architecture both cortex a57 only difference is in production 1 is 20 nm 1 is 14 nm. And it doesnt effect performance directly it just gives you a thermal space so they can overclock cpu to 2.1 ghz like in 7420 basically you cant overclock 5433 to 2.1 its just too much for it in 20 nm.
Btw we are talking about 64 bit not cpus itself. And whatever i use both of them anyway and i dont think 7420 worths anything 2015 is just waste for me imho.
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The revision. And btw they quietly improve things up u didnt know so yea
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The revision. And btw they quietly improve things up u didnt know so yea
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Well peak performance doesnt effected by small differences even s810 with same cores (a57) gives same peak performance but sustainable performance can change between all of them. Again its not a soc thread im just commenting about 64 bit.
im in. I support you.
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So what will that goal achieve? the figure showing that the phone is 64bit? Does it provide tangible improvements, will the phone perform better and consume less battery. To my knowledge it will do no such thing and I can only imagine how many men hours it will take to port all the libraries, kernel, bootloader, I fail to see the benefits.
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Does it matter? If people are willing to pay for it and developers are willing to do the work, I don't see any harm in it. Always better to have 64-bit support.
Can anybody please run a benchmark and confirm if the OS is 32 bit or 64 bit? I know Snapdragon 625 supports 64 bit OS. But Motorola put 32 bit OS previously on G5 plus. So just want to confirm.
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Can anybody please run a benchmark and confirm if the OS is 32 bit or 64 bit? I know Snapdragon 625 supports 64 bit OS. But Motorola put 32 bit OS previously on G5 plus. So just want to confirm.
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32-bit.
Way to disappointing that G5s plus got 32bit while it can run 64bit perfectly -.- Lenovo really sux at software handling for sure camera quality ain't as expected way to much yellow color in low light pics and way to much sharpness in day light photos no natural colors are to be found in pics -.- my Nexus 5 can do better than this one imo and lastly what disappointed me was that in LTE network sim 1 net is always turned on in background I checked developers option agressive data is turned off but net is always on which tolls on ür price if u don't have free data which I usually don't since I'm always surrounded by wifi 24/7 my over all impression about this device is that it's only good at performance and battery life
Yes, I just spent a fun morning trying to get the Adfree YouTube apk working before I discovered that 64 bit architecture was the wrong one to be using. Banging my head against a wall because the Snapdragon 625 is 64 bit so there was no logic as to why it'd be the wrong one.
Mind you, I did like the post above mine - all this phone has got going for it is performance and battery life. Well, as I couldn't really give two hoots about anything else other than performance and battery life, it looks as if I've made a good choice for my new phone...
With oreo being 64bit we should see the real full utilization of this CPU when we get the update. I just got my confirmation that my phone shipped and i cant wait to mess with it.
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With oreo being 64bit we should see the real full utilization of this CPU when we get the update. I just got my confirmation that my phone shipped and i cant wait to mess with it.
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what do you expect to happen with 64 bit? code is larger and you can access more than ~4 gigs of memory; handy on a 3gig phone.
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what do you expect to happen with 64 bit? code is larger and you can access more than ~4 gigs of memory; handy on a 3gig phone.
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Power efficiency and preformance. I also bought the 4gb ram version.
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With oreo being 64bit we should see the real full utilization of this CPU when we get the update. I just got my confirmation that my phone shipped and i cant wait to mess with it.
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I thought Motorola has a put a hardware limitation by limiting the size of one of the buses to 32 bit or I could have totally misread something
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what do you expect to happen with 64 bit? code is larger and you can access more than ~4 gigs of memory; handy on a 3gig phone.
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64-bit required for Google camera HDR+ mod specifically
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I thought Motorola has a put a hardware limitation by limiting the size of one of the buses to 32 bit or I could have totally misread something
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I was under the impression that google will not support a 32bit Oreo and Motorola said this will be updated to Oreo. Do you remember where you saw the limitations?
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I was under the impression that google will not support a 32bit Oreo
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That is incorrect. Android Oreo supports 32-bit devices just like always.
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I was under the impression that google will not support a 32bit Oreo and Motorola said this will be updated to Oreo. Do you remember where you saw the limitations?
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Sorry mate, not able to find it now. Will update as soon as I find the link
As I thought, I had misread something. The decision to use 32 bit comes from G5 where 2 GB and 3 GB versions could not make use of 64 bit OS. So they decided to go with 32bit altogether for G5 series. Maybe that's the reason it's still 32 bit on G5s series as well? Business decision wise it makes sense :| and for that price we can't really complain
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Sorry mate, not able to find it now. Will update as soon as I find the link
As I thought, I had misread something. The decision to use 32 bit comes from G5 where 2 GB and 3 GB versions could not make use of 64 bit OS. So they decided to go with 32bit altogether for G5 series. Maybe that's the reason it's still 32 bit on G5s series as well? Business decision wise it makes sense :| and for that price we can't really complain
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Good to know. Thank you.
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With oreo being 64bit we should see the real full utilization of this CPU when we get the update. I just got my confirmation that my phone shipped and i cant wait to mess with it.
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Do join our telegram development group. We have a couple test builds out too. Just text me @Manan44 on telegram.
After a lot of reading on 64bit vs 32bit on MSM8953 this SoC doesn't benefit to much while running a 64bit OS. This SoC was one of the earliest 64bit SoC that Qualcomm offered (for sale in Feb 2016). Comparing benchmarks (i know benchmarks arent the best way to compare devices, but i needed a repeatable source so that's what i used.) on both single core and multi core the overall efficiency was a minimal gain. like 1-3%.
It is smarter from a business stance that they would stick to 1 base for their G line and they picked 32bit. I was looking forward to having a 64bit device but it will have to wait.
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what do you expect to happen with 64 bit? code is larger and you can access more than ~4 gigs of memory; handy on a 3gig phone.
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Haha to be accurate 32Bit is more on side of saving battery and giving decent performance , 64Bit is about giving more performance and decent battery life , And last x86 is lot on performance and below avg with battery life
And I really wants 64Bit just to be able to run Google camera -.- and hope ported one to work well T~T
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Can anybody please run a benchmark and confirm if the OS is 32 bit or 64 bit? I know Snapdragon 625 supports 64 bit OS. But Motorola put 32 bit OS previously on G5 plus. So just want to confirm.
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is Android OS 32bit on 64bit CPU Arm, not is 64bit OS
but is support OS
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is Android OS 32bit on 64bit CPU Arm, not is 64bit OS
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Yes that is the point. Even though the processor supports 64-bit OS, moto decided to put 32-bit OS (understandable business decision). I was just curious to know since Google Camera HDR+ currently works only on 64-bit OS.
Reson behind 32 bit os is as the architecture of cpu is 64 bit the 32 bit os will take 32 bit of thread space so 2 threads or two operations can run simultaneously boosting the device performance and battery whereas compared to 64 bit os will take 64 bit thread size and more ram and battery compared to 32 bit thats the reason behind 32 bit os but afterall dosent matter 4 gb ram and that snapdragon 625 processor can handle but battery can be a concern for heavy users.
So you release a phone with 64bit processor in 2018
And you put 32bit ROM!!!! What's wrong with U!!!
This device is a scam for everyone who bought it expecting a great Roms support because he saw xiaomi phones getting ROMs right away . but this phone simply doesn't !
It's essentially the same as an older 'mido' too, they just put some lipstick on an old ARM board and sell it like it's new...
A 64 bits OS on a device with less than 4Go of RAM is .... totally useless .... Even if we are in 2019 ....
Keep 32 Bits in this case is the best solution : Applications needs less RAM than on a 64 bits OS.
xNiux said:
A 64 bits OS on a device with less than 4Go of RAM is .... totally useless .... Even if we are in 2019 ....
Keep 32 Bits in this case is the best solution : Applications needs less RAM than on a 64 bits OS.
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This is not true. 64bit apps have better performance. There is also a 4GB RAM version of this phone. Xiaomi should be ashamed for creating a 32bit only ROM for this device.
stephendt0 said:
This is not true. 64bit apps have better performance. There is also a 4GB RAM version of this phone. Xiaomi should be ashamed for creating a 32bit only ROM for this device.
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Can also confirm that comment is incorrect. Even my Raspberry Pi is faster with 64-bit OS (Debian).
The claim applications use more RAM, simply because they are 64 bit, is also incorrect.