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Report says that Samsung won't use Snapdragon 810 in Galaxy S6, overheating issues to blame
By Harish Jonnalagadda | Jan 21 2015 | 4:25 am | 12 Comments
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Over the last few years, Samsung has stuck to a release model for its flagships that sees the inclusion of Qualcomm chips for LTE markets, and Exynos-based variants in South Korea and emerging markets. That may change with the Galaxy S6, as a report out of Bloomberg states that Samsung won't offer a Snapdragon 810 variant of the Galaxy S6 on grounds of overheating issues.
Citing people familiar with the matter, Bloomberg says that Qualcomm's eight-core Snapdragon 810 "overheated during the Korean company's testing," with Samsung finally deciding not to use it altogether. Samsung will instead launch the Galaxy S6 with an in-house Exynos SoC. The South Korean manufacturer has been making huge strides in the field of application processors, with the latest version featuring an integrated LTE modem.
Samsung isn't far off in terms of processing power when seen against Qualcomm's offerings, but the vendor, along with everyone else in the segment including MediaTek, Intel and Nvidia, are miles behind Qualcomm when it comes to LTE modems. For instance, Qualcomm announced that it will offer the Snapdragon 810 with an LTE Category 9 modem that can attain download speeds of up to 450 Mbit/sec.
If Samsung is indeed looking to boycott the Snapdragon 810, it may be in the minority, as LG's G Flex 2 has Qualcomm's eight-core SoC, and HTC's upcoming One M9 is also expected to feature Qualcomm's latest.
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Tswfootball
If Samsung skips it due to overheating issues should we be concerned about flagship devices using it?
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arutemauepon
We don't know if it's real or they just made it up so they can opt for exynos
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rd_nest
Why should they do that when they have been using Qualcomm for past many years? It's a business, not fight among kids where you need to give a useless logic. If Samsung just wanted to use Exynos, they would simply do so without even talking about Qualcomm. There is no logic to giving any sort of explanation.
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Benjamin_NYC
Right. It's a business. And using their own in house chip is cheaper. This is a smoke screen.
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9ersfan3
The Exynos 7 is so powerful it may have the 810 trumped. I wish the SD 805 had issues that forced Samsung to go with only the Exynos 5433 on the note 4, lol. Exynos is now top of the line. The days of the octa 5420 (which is still very powerful) are over. The cat 9 of the 810 is impressive though
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zzzaac
Well it's all rumours until the phone actually shows up, personally don't mind either one, as both the Snapdragon and Exynos (which one though?) seem to be beasts.
But some modders might not like the Exynos
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zizu101
At the HTC event, I would like if AC could ask about this issue. I don't want to get an overheating mess on the m9.
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Benjamin_NYC
LOL AC "editors" don't ask any "questions" that might prove difficult for manufacturers or Google. They simply report the fluff presented to them.
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rd_nest
@harish Jonnalagadda, why are you mentioning Cat 9 modem as it is of much importance here? Samsung already is planning for in-house Cat 10 modem, so why suddenly Cat 9 be of any importance. Forget Cat 9/10, how many regions can actually exceed Cat 6??
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-exynos-cat10-lte-450mbps,28177....
http://www.gsmarena.com/next_samsung_exynos_soc_rumored_to_feature_cat10...
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Peter Burkes
I have a Samsung Galaxy s5 & its over heating as well. Never had this problem before with any Galaxy phones.
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Mighty_Red
Bit of a worry really, as if it is a problem with the 810 chip itself, the other vendors will have issues. On the other hand, if it is simply the design of the S6 that is to blame for the issues then Sammy are not doing such a great job.
Either way, I'm glad I'll be skipping this years offerings, hopefully 2016 will have stable CPU choices, 2K with no lag and type C USB
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tonybyatt
What are you talking about? There are no 2015 flagships even out yet...
How about waiting for facts before making absurd comments...
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If the overheating issues are a fact, then Samsung would have an edge if they designed a mean SoC. Especially if their competitors are going for the 810.
I've also been missing the Wolfson DAC, since the Exynos version is impossible to find unless I'm looking abroad. Would be nice to have that opportunity.
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
It would be better if Samsung stuck to one CPU per Galaxy model though, IMO, I remember the Note 2 being Exynos globally, if I'm not mistaken?
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Yep, same as the S3.
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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lordoftheriffs said:
S3 had snapdragon s4 in north america i think
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That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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My understanding was that it used separate lte radio. Now days they go for integrated solution
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Glad they are dumping crapdragon (as I call) in favor of exynos, the should have done it long back
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POLO_i780 said:
With all the reported issues in the 810, I'd avoid any phone based on it, and wait for one based on the 820.
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Agree.
As I've said before, the 810 turns out to be a bad chip.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, the Note 2 was quite strange in that it was only Exynos which I was sure was an error since most other Samsung devices used Qualcomm in the US and some other territories but it does seem to be the case.
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
Mafle93 said:
Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
Johnmcl7 said:
That's correct, there were variants with different radio support but they all used the Samsung Exynos platform rather than Snapdragon. I initially assumed a friend in the US was wrong when he said his US Note 2 was Exynos but when I read up on it I couldn't find any variants using a Snapdragon platform.
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Hm, I didn't know! Usually, we get the SD where I live. Our S3 was Exynos. I stand corrected.
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
They should put a heatsink fan on s805
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Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom ROM on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
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Wait, there was no SD Note 2?
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Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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zurkx said:
snapdragons this generation and the next suck so im happy they decided to ditch it for the s6. maybe we will get a 64 bit kernel for our note 4s finally if they go all in on exy 7s for the s6.
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Agree. I tried out Note 4 with SD at Best Buy and decided to go with Exynos version. The lags and stutters on SD version are too obvious. Also not happy with audio/music quality on SD DAC.
Tom-Helge said:
Personally, i give a damn on what processor the Note 5 will use (as that will be my next phone or maybe the Note 6). Because what matters to me is that the CPU and ofc the GPU gives me good performance and as long as i can root and install a good custom on the Note without any hassles or problems, then i will be all happy.
I know there are more support for the Snapdragon CPU's when it comes to custom ROM's, but i do believe it's alright for the Exynos version to if i'm not wrong here?
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You mean you don't give a damn? Anyway, CPU performance is hardly a problem these days. A lot more of it is in software optimization. The support for the SD SoCs is a lot bigger, since it's everywhere. More closed source SoCs, like the Exynos, are only to be found in Samsung's phones. It's harder to develop a proper CM for it due to closed source libs, but some of the most skilled developers in here are still doing some amazing work.
darekz said:
Nope. This is why "Exynos abuse" was easiest way to root Note 2.
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I see, thanks
Personally, I think Samsung should go for the Exynos, as Qualcomm has hardly any competition. With Samsung being one of the biggest manufacturers, I think it can make a huge difference. If Samsung is just consistent, using only the Exynoses in their flagships at least.
Exynos Note 4 users can expect a increase in Android development if the chip used in the S6 is similar enough =)
Qualcomm to provide Samsung with a modified Snapdragon 810:
http://www.gsmarena.com/qualcomm_to_provide_samsung_with_a_modified_snapdragon_810-news-10895.php
How outrageous is Snapdragon 821 to support MIMO but One Plus to discard it??
nikfam said:
How outrageous is Snapdragon 821 to support MIMO but One Plus to discard it??
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Not outrageous at all.
vladimir_carlan said:
Not outrageous at all.
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100 dollar Mi5c achieves twice the speed of the op3t.. Plus that when I bought the phone, MIMO was advertised as a feature without mentioning the other defects most users deal with
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100 dollar Mi5c achieves twice the speed of the op3t.. Plus that when I bought the phone, MIMO was advertised as a feature without mentioning the other defects most users deal with
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Are you sure MIMO was advertised? Are you sure was not MU-MIMO? Because it is a huge difference. Indeed Snapdragon 821 supports MIMO but Qualcomm do customise the chipset according to OEM demands. You got a top range device for a fraction of other flagships. And with a premium build aswell. To keep the cost low, some cuts must be made. Therefore OnePlus decided to cut costs by not offering MIMO support.
Indeed MI5c do support MIMO. How you came with $100 for it I don't know. But whatever. Be it your way. The price is irrelevant anyway. For $100 you have MIMO woohooo. But to have MIMO and such a low price, Xiaomi have made other compromises. A cheap in-house build chipset build on 5 years old technology (ARM53 cores), a cheap and outdated (2 years old) GPU.
Any information about the DAC in the Note 9?
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Any information about the DAC in the Note 9?
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Not that I can find yet? Will be interesting to find out.
Ryland
Same here ....
Waiting to hear about this too. Will be the difference between me buying the Tmobile variant or an unlocked international one. Only reason I rooted my Note 8 was for Viper and it was worth the 20% battery loss for the sound quality, but if they can get the dac anywhere close to the V20, I'll no longer need root.
Samsung using hi dac ? ??
No way
Should be the same as the s9 plus. Go figure that one out.
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I'm pretty impressed with the headlamp when playing high res audio.
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Any information about the DAC in the Note 9?
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There was an article on the phone arena from ifixit I think. The DAC is Qualcomm AMD the amplifier is MAXIM. THAT'S for the snapdragon version. Anyway it's the same from S9
calinormy said:
There was an article on the phone arena from ifixit I think. The DAC is Qualcomm AMD the amplifier is MAXIM. THAT'S for the snapdragon version. Anyway it's the same from S9
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I have Exynos version. And super pleased with the quality.
Same here. It's a step up from the N8 which was already good. Anyone know anything about the DAC in the international version?
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It should be the same dac , they never changed it i am guessing.
Emerald Core said:
It should be the same dac , they never changed it i am guessing.
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Yes but what is the model of the DAC?
Emerald Core said:
It should be the same dac , they never changed it i am guessing.
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It's the same DAC as the international versions of S9. Maybe we could find some information on the S9 forums
I suspect, I don't yet know, the DAC in the Note 9 will be a Wolfsen (Cirrus logic) in the Exynos variety? Very accomplished DAC
Ryland
clear and loud
It is clear and soo much loud with dolby enabled
Ryland Johnson said:
I suspect, I don't yet know, the DAC in the Note 9 will be a Wolfsen (Cirrus logic) in the Exynos variety? Very accomplished DAC
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Wolfston has been bought by samsung AFAIK
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Wolfston has been bought by samsung AFAIK
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I forgot if apple bought Cirrus logic or Wolfson or if Cirrus logic bought Wolfson but IIRC Wolfson is part of Cirrus logic now which is part of Apple. I don't know if Apple wholly owns it though. Still pissed off Apple bought Authentec and only used it for themselves. My laptop fingerprint sensor has not worked as well as previous models with Authentec. But it's apple. Shouldn't be surprised. They buy IP or companies and then invent everything.
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Wolfston has been bought by samsung AFAIK
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That is not the case. Wolfsen microelectronics was purchased by Cirrus logic in 2014. To date Cirrus logic is owned by Cirrus logic. Who they do business with is another matter.
Ryland :good:
Hey guys, can you please tell me If there is any difference in internal audio quality viz a viz S9 and Note9 (both exynos). Cant seem to justify the $300 difference (dont really need the SPen)
S1611 said:
Hey guys, can you please tell me If there is any difference in internal audio quality viz a viz S9 and Note9 (both exynos). Cant seem to justify the $300 difference (dont really need the SPen)
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I highly doubt there is a $300 difference. Probably not even a $50 difference.
If you have no need for an s-pen, there are only a couple things you're paying for with the Note9: larger battery, larger screen, better cooling, more storage (and RAM, potentially).
But the s-pen is the centerpiece of this phone. It's why you buy it.
Does our note 9 has built-in DAC for improving music quality?
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Not sure about a h/w chip, but there are plenty of s/w settings incl. Dolby Atmos and UHD upscaling.
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All phones with a headphone jack have a DAC as it's required (DAC = Digital to Analog Converter). The DAC in the S9+ isn't the same as the ones LG is using in their high-end phones but it's not bad either. As mentioned, there are software adjustments as well.
The DAC in the Note 9 isn't that bad however it is not the same as the DAC found in other phones that are designed to have high sound quality.
what are the Note9 DAC specs?
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Does our note 9 has built-in DAC for improving music quality?
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Yes, it does (as all phone with 3.5mm jack). It also has AMP. The DACs in the US sd845 variant and the exynos 9810 variant are different tho and the exynos 9810 one is better. The only thing that this SOC is better compared to sd845. :laugh:
The DAC used in the Note 9 is manufactured by Wolfson.
Wolfson was purchased by Cirrus Logic. Wolfson Make some of the most accomplished DAC's available. I am deliberately avoiding the term 'best' as its highly subjective and sound reproduction is personal taste.
I am able to assure the reader that Wolfson DAC's are highly sought after and industry respected. The Wolfson DAC is found only in the Note 9 with the Exynos chip though. Its is not part of the PCB as is the case in the SD variant.
Use an external amp or amp DAC combo and the Note 9 is a superb reproducer of sound.
Samsung have, with the 9 series of smart phones, at last reached top quality industry sound reproduction-sound stage requisites, took them long enough lol.
Ryland
I answer too, even if this thread is quite old. I'm really impressed by the sound of my Note 9 exynos. I've plugged in a planar magnetic headphone (Verum one), which usually requires a powerful amp for driving, and I can get a very good volume. So sad that newer smartphones haven't the 3,5 jack anymore.
gabripranzo said:
I answer too, even if this thread is quite old. I'm really impressed by the sound of my Note 9 exynos. I've plugged in a planar magnetic headphone (Verum one), which usually requires a powerful amp for driving, and I can get a very good volume. So sad that newer smartphones haven't the 3,5 jack anymore.
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Those fascist NPCs, who tell us we don't need a headphone jack and we should accept the Brave New World, they will never understand!
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Actually Exynos devices are sold in the EU, Austrailia and parts of the middle East. The US and East Asia use Snapdragon devices.
keaheng said:
Lesson learnt. Never go with exynos chips again. Since exynos decices are officially sold in asia Snapdragons are cheaper and its technically better
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Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Common really Lesson learnt ? Exynos is awesome! There are to many factors just to blame Exynos, his network could suck ? Or the game (Pub G) has a bug that's causing the lag! Or in game settings aren’t optimized ? You cant balme the cpu for in game lag! Exynos Rock they are awesome chipset!
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oh? https://youtu.be/3l-7uFhSKGw
Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
Thank you in advance
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The snapdragon version is better in every possible way - GPU (on average 30% faster), the CPU (in every real world scenario or bench, except geekbench), better battery life. That said, the exynos 9810 is perfectly capable to run PUBG maxed out smoothly. I tested it in android oreo on my exynos note 9. It's possible that the game has some issues with the pie update, as the new GPU driver is actually giving around 10% more performance in every scenario.
I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
Ahmed Elkhyate said:
Hi guys
Good evening ..i had note9 since 1 week and i have a question
Is there a real diffrence between exynos and snapdragon .. iam from Egypt and i have exynos version
Second ghing i have a very stupid lag on PUBG ?? Is this coz of new pie udate or it a general problem
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You have to wait next pie updates. Exynos is the best chipset on device market but always has been limited due to battery and device safety.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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You're trying too hard my friend. In the end all that matters is real life performance... and since the Galaxy S8, the Exynos has been biting the dust. (The Exynos S7 was actually faster than the Snapdragon S7 in real-life screnarios though, except in 3D performance).
I'm not saying the Exynos is a mediocre SoC, but clearly Samsung failed to deliver for some time now. Today, in 2019, the Snapdragon variant of the S9/N9 is without a doubt the one to get if your cell. network is supported. The Snapdragon 845 is also more efficient and less power-hungry.
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I want to add though. The audio quality is quite a lot better on the exynos.
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This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i won’t say Snapdragon destroys Exynos they both have the strength and weakness.. Also note Samsung does not really optimize Exynos chipsets for Android! They rush and cut corners.. The way Samsung see's it, if it does the job (what’s the point of spending real time to get the whole o.s optimized for Android) if Samsung truly setup the Exynos for Android from the ground up it would actually leave the snapdragon cpu in dust!
From androidcentral!!
Technically, there is nothing surprising about this — the Exynos 9810's M3 cores are extremely powerful, besting Qualcomm's proprietary Kryo cores by a large margin in synthetic tests like Geekbench. But Samsung appears to have failed the task of balancing real-world performance with device longevity, and given Android's scalability, such theoretical performance advantages are not always borne out in the mundanities of daily tasks.
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True and wrong. It's true that the M3 cores has a lot of brute power and also it's true that there is a lot of room for improvements regarding 9810 control... sadly as you said it was rushed, half baked, android 9 improves it a bit but still it's like 1/4 of the max potential and as we know - new phones are coming with new SOC's and this will be leaved as it is, sadly. Wrong in the meaning that the exynos 9810 can't beat snapdragon 945, because if you unleash it the power consumption would be insane and it will lead to a lot of heat, throttling (thermal), poor sustain from those two and really bad screen on time. And this is only the CPU, the GPU is no contest at all - the adreno is around 30% faster (depending on the workload)... atleast we got around 10% higher scores with the newer driver in the android 9 tho. Also wrong in the meaning that the only CPU bench that puts exynos on top is the geekbench, every other CPU test or bench is giving the first place to the sd845, including the more close to real world tests like pcmark. I have the exynos note 9 btw.
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This was valid in the past, the latest snapdragons DAC is really a step up, especially the one in the snapdragon 845. I still would put on top the exynos 9810 DAC tho, but by not that much compared to the past SOCs.
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Allright! Didn't know they came back more. Good to know.
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SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....
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SD:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874435&postcount=31
my OC Exy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78874576&postcount=32
and attached is with NON OC kernel
the line is thinner and thinner....
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Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.
I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.
roaduardo said:
I don't understand how these differences can be clearly representing in real world use, everyday use, to the average and enthusiast consumer. I'm actually thinking about buying an Exynos Note 9 for one reason: ROOT.
I'm sure I'll be just as happy with the performance of the Exynos chip just as I am on this Snapdragon. I don't really game that much, anyway. Not stuff like shooters at least.
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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.
high_voltage said:
Aha, but a few problems:
1) this is not the stock ROM/kernel and some of us prefer to not unlock as it voids the warranty + you literally will need to flash updates every single month as this phone is heavily supported
2) your battery life will be a lot worse vs the snapdragon 845
3) you GPU is still 30% slower and some of us DO game on that phone
4) this is benchmarks after all, real world can be different and you will most likely have a few frame drops while the sd does not
It's not that simple as to flash a custom kernel, but it's a good reference point that samsung have a lot of room to improve the SOC control, but they will not do it, mostly because the galaxy s10 is here and every single competent engineer will work on it + future devices.
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in my heart of hearts, I'll take any advantage I can to tip the scales on my side. why? because I can.
nothing ventured nothing gained.
and again benchmark numbers VS benchmark numbers,
the line really is thinner. no longer is it 30% on GPU and what ever it was on CPU
Luv my EXynos Note 9! ftw
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Well, there are a few forum fellow members that got the both variants. All of them said the same - that they came prepared for a difference in favour of the snapdragon, but was surprised how big it is and all of them returned the exynos keeping the snapdragon variant. This should sum it up from "real world" perspective. The exynos is not super bad or anything, the snapdragon version is just THAT much better.
Also if you want more scientific approach - anandtech Andrei's note 9 sd vs note 9 exynos direct comparison. For the numbers, but the real world is coming from our forum. I am sure if you search long enough that you will find atleast some of those comparison and opinions.
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Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.
roaduardo said:
Hmmm. But root, though. It's a compelling reason to get an Exynos. I'm not sure how much longer it may be for something awesome to happen on the Snapdragon side of things when it comes to root but it'll probably be many moons from now. Exynos is here already able to root and I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on buying one.
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well the 9600 would be the best of both worlds. just not much development. but then again note 9 exynos developemnt is not much anyways. There seems to be a bigger community around on telegram with roms that have more mods than what we currently have on xda...
but I feel content with my n960n.