Why android phones use mini usb - Off-topic

Why does Android phones have to stick with the mini USB? All my phones have been Androids, but after 5 years of use, their mini USB port just starts to decay. It is because the port is cheap and low quality: it is made of single metal stripe. Bought a new phone two months ago and I already feel the connector loosening a bit, it certainly won't last for more than 3 years even though the phone is very durable. I am no an iPhone fan, but hands down this point definitely goes to Apple.

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Kiil said:
it certainly won't last for more than 3 years
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Maybe that's the point... they want you to buy a new phone all the time.

micro USB*
Ports last longer than the cord plugs. I don't disagree there's flaws in the design (mainly reversibility), but at least it's a standard now. It wasn't too long ago where there wasn't a standard. I remember one time a co-worker was given some old Samsung Blackberry-ish phone because his old phone died, but didn't have a charger. We tried 5 different Samsung chargers, and none of them fit.
USB 4.0 will be everything we want it to be...as long as it becomes a truly "universal" standard.

EU require that all phone must have that port to be sell in Europe. Still Apple use Thunderbolt.....

Planterz said:
micro USB*
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I always get them mixed up, but yeah micro USB. Standardising is a major factor, but I'd rather have a durable phone. It's almost impossible to replace that part since it's usually soldered to the main board, they really want you to buy new phone every 3 years.. Had one of those "wtf is this port"-moments once with an old Nokia, it was worse than Apple's wide dust-vacuum.
Hopefully USB 4.0 will get adapted. I don't think there are any regulations for phone charging ports.

Kiil said:
Why does Android phones have to stick with the mini USB?.... All my phones have been Androids, but after 5 years of use, their mini USB port just starts to decay... I am no an iPhone fan, but hands down this point definitely goes to Apple.
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Why ? : mainly because its a standard now and its effective and cheap and safe (remember the FireWire DMA attack)
5 years is a lot of action pretty normal it starts loosening
And the Apple way is no better with only less than 30% market shares just look at the abundance of replacement parts already sold for iPhone 5's it must be for a reason, I was an avid Apple fan for many years and I couldn't believe how brittle they where and how much repair I had to do on theses devices...

It's more like 3 years, my current phone started loosening after 3 months. It is cheap, but not an appropriate component for such a vital role. I am talking about Apple's charging ports only. Apple's products ARE fragile, they're not made for everyday clumsiness. Even though thunderbolts and lightnings are hated by some folks, I would much rather see those standardized than micro-USB or USB 3.0. USB 4.0 is a step to the right direction.

Kiil said:
It's more like 3 years, my current phone started loosening after 3 months.......USB 4.0 is a step to the right direction.
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I changed both my N4 and N5 charging ports after couples of months too but im no normal user as you probably are , good news they are cheap and easy to replace
As for USB 4 ... its a thing from the future I dont think USB 3/3.1 will be implemented widely anytime soon

Ltdrev said:
I changed both my N4 and N5 charging ports after couples of months too but im no normal user as you probably are , good news they are cheap and easy to replace
As for USB 4 ... its a thing from the future I dont think USB 3/3.1 will be implemented widely anytime soon
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Oh yeah they seem to be pretty easy to replace, I guess my knowledge is based on old models. That made me worry a bit less about breaking my phone. Had to solder one mini-USB once using some uncovered scrap copper wires and it was a hell. Yeah USB2 is the standard, but after 3-7 years we'll might see a change.

I've never had a MicroUSB port (It's Micro, not Mini. MiniUSB is what you find on hard drives and cameras.) decay, not even after 5 years of intensive use...

Yeah the micro-usb port on my S3 is becoming kind of loose now. I used to be able to suspend my phone in the air by holding the charging cable, but now it falls off.

superbarnie said:
Yeah the micro-usb port on my S3 is becoming kind of loose now. I used to be able to suspend my phone in the air by holding the charging cable, but now it falls off.
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I wonder why
@OP
I've never had one show signs of deterioration either, and the last phone I had was the longest I've had one - just over 2 years. The current one is over 18 months now and is still a perfect fit. That said, I am careful about removing it. I make sure to pull it straight out, with not even a slight angle on it, so there's no reason why it should ever break.
It could be bad luck or carelessness or a bit of both. Just make sure to rule out the latter and you should be fine.

Well, yeah, maybe I swinged it around my head using the cable a few times, but still...

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Micro usb storage for nexus 10?

Hi there guys. So i saw this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021001 looking for a solution for my nexus 10.
After a bit research i thought why the hell there is no company with a micro usb storage for our tablets and that was enought to start digging with my company to see if we can produce them. It seems it's going well for our project but i was wondering how many people are really interested on this one. We are looking to produce a tiny micro usb storage that will fit niceley with nexus 10 and it can be used 24/7 as storage expantion.
so your turn how many of you would be interested on getting one of these?
leo_s_smith said:
Hi there guys. So i saw this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021001 looking for a solution for my nexus 10.
After a bit research i thought why the hell there is no company with a micro usb storage for our tablets and that was enought to start digging with my company to see if we can produce them. It seems it's going well for our project but i was wondering how many people are really interested on this one. We are looking to produce a tiny micro usb storage that will fit niceley with nexus 10 and it can be used 24/7 as storage expantion.
so your turn how many of you would be interested on getting one of these?
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This would be cool. As long as it can be used without messing up the Micro USB port and doesn't expose the microsd to breaking also.
thacounty said:
This would be cool. As long as it can be used without messing up the Micro USB port and doesn't expose the microsd to breaking also.
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This. Also hopefully with a good amount of memory and a discreet design, not like those long thumb drives.
Are you talking microSD cards or flash drives? If flash drives, I asked about this long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029745
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Are you talking microSD cards or flash drives? If flash drives, I asked about this long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029745
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yup im talking about a flash drive we are really considering of building. i believe that this would be better than a microsd card reader and definitely more discreet.
Sounds great if it doesn't protrude too much from the port - count me in!
what i want someone to make is a micro usb with a flex ribbon that can mount flush to the device. then the ribbon can wrap around back with a Microsd slot or usb. getting the connector out of the device can be like an ide ribbon in a pc just have a small plastic piece sticking out to pull on.
Definitely interested. It needs to be absolutely tiny though and preferably thin on the edges so your hands would just glide over it instead of hitting it when they go around the display.
Another thing which would be awesome, but I doubt it's possible, is to allow it to act as a us pass through (so it would have a micro usb plug female in there as well, although I'm afraid it would make it too big). This is so that you can connect a data cable to your device and access the extra storage all at the same time.
It is ridiculous we have to jump through these hoops because of el goog's totally irrational and fundamentalist/religious at its core,war on expandable storage in the Nexus line of products (well, my Nexus 1 didn't have that restriction, to be fair).
Anyway, the design would have to be such that the reader somehow "clings" to the body of N10 (and probably, you'd want it to be useable with other devices too) to where it is secure enough and won't fall out from an accidental contact with one's hand etc. The headphone jack is nearby and can not be obstructed. Plugging anything into the microUSB jack would take ability to charge device while in use.
If anyone is in it to make money, it almost feels a better way is to take it "all the way":
- Exynos should have native pins for expandable storage, that are left "hanging" (prolly pulled up/down) OR
- there could be a built-in USB hub on the mobo OR
- one could up with a small f-factor PCB with one
the goal is to manage to modify the case to install 100% functional microSD reader - one that doesn't obscure/use the microUSB plug.
While on it, figure out the charging circuit and provide a barrel plug for 5v/3A charging. There has to be a few hundred N10 owners that would gladly spend $200 to have their N10's modded (and wty's voided). After all, they wuz crazy enough to buy it in the first place
A decent haul for an EE student/enthusiast with a steady hand, a Dremel and a good soldering iron.
I'd make the purchase in a heartbeat :good:!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2051949
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Wouldnt hesitate to buy one as well
leo_s_smith said:
yup im talking about a flash drive we are really considering of building. i believe that this would be better than a microsd card reader and definitely more discreet.
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Can you provide any more info about the profile of the device your considering building? Specifically - the shape, how far it would protrude, etc?
I'd love to see a sketch or two. If you streamline it enough (rounded edges, minimal chance of stressing the micro-usb jack), you'll be able to sell it to a whole lot of phone owners, not just us.
I would absolutely buy one.
I think the demand would clearly be very high for this product. Considering the size of the market of tablet owners looking for OTG cables, etc... I think it would sell extremely well. I, for one, would definitely by one the minute it was available.
This one seems a good idea:
http://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Cheap_Mobile_Phones/Cell_Phone_Accessories/4GB_USB_Flash_Drive_With_OTG_for_Samsung_Motorola_Nokia
Ready to buy one now!
Hi guys,
first i am glad to see that a lot of people are interested not only to support this project but also contribute with ideas. The goal is to create a product that will not get on the way of the user. As i already said i own a nexus 10 and i am working based on my everyday use of the tablet. My first designs are for a really small casing that will fit exactly to the body of our beloved nexus so it wont be able to move by accident. I am going for like 0.5cm width but we cannot at this point be sure for the final products dimensions.
I loved the idea of the flex cord that a user provided above but unfortunately that means loosen connectivity and i believe that it would get in the way of the user. Still it definitely gave my couple of ideas.
rgomesf i am already aware of this product but as a user i believe that in my hands its going to break in a day.
I think that the best approach would be a solid micro-usb unit for the nexus with a small cable-adaptor to connect it to USBs in computers in order to transfer data.
I am always open to more suggestions.
leo_s_smith said:
Hi guys,
first i am glad to see that a lot of people are interested not only to support this project but also contribute with ideas. The goal is to create a product that will not get on the way of the user. As i already said i own a nexus 10 and i am working based on my everyday use of the tablet. My first designs are for a really small casing that will fit exactly to the body of our beloved nexus so it wont be able to move by accident. I am going for like 0.5cm width but we cannot at this point be sure for the final products dimensions.
I loved the idea of the flex cord that a user provided above but unfortunately that means loosen connectivity and i believe that it would get in the way of the user. Still it definitely gave my couple of ideas.
rgomesf i am already aware of this product but as a user i believe that in my hands its going to break in a day.
I think that the best approach would be a solid micro-usb unit for the nexus with a small cable-adaptor to connect it to USBs in computers in order to transfer data.
I am always open to more suggestions.
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Is this still happening? I am very interested.
And the cable-adaptor could double up as a pass-through to connect another USB device? Or is that pushing the capabilities of the micro-usb port?
If you're tailoring it specifically toward the Nexus 10, perhaps it would be possible to decrease how much it juts out by running along the side? Not in the direction of the headphone port, but upwards near the power button.
Not sure if that's actually possible though.

Cunning Samsung, the real reason why Note 4 battery is only 20 mah larger.

As we all know, the battery is the Note 4 is virtually the same as the one used in Note 3, it's only 20 mah larger in capacity. So why didn't samsung just stay at 3200 mah?
The real reason I found out after many nights of careful analysis is that Samsung does not want use to use Note 3 battery on the Note 4, therefore it would promote their battery sales, which makes up a substantial portion of their income. Samsung engineers obvious is not capable of figuring out how to make a improvement on the battery capacity despite note 4 is so much heavy than the Note 3. So the other goal achieved is to save face, so that they would not get criticism from the public for not improve on the battery capacity, despite there is virtually no piratical benefit makes the phone 19% heavier.
Like if you agree.
I see the shape of the battery has changed significantly.
Note 3:
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Note 4:
The Note 4 battery is much skinnier and longer. It is possible that this is just a side effect of having a new internal layout in the phone - the Galaxy Alpha also has a very skinny and long battery.
I actually prefer this design since they no longer have to use the crappy SIM and SD card 2-in-one slot, instead they have the SIM and SD card as a separate slot.
What a strange shape for a phone battery.
The weight is not symmetric.
The shape already change, means even without extra 20mAh, you also can't use Note 3 battery on it.
pcman2000 said:
The Note 4 battery is much skinnier and longer. It is possible that this is just a side effect of having a new internal layout in the phone - the Galaxy Alpha also has a very skinny and long battery.
I actually prefer this design since they no longer have to use the crappy SIM and SD card 2-in-one slot, instead they have the SIM and SD card as a separate slot.
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Yeah, why is Samsung constantly change the back layout? Even generation has different slot places and battery shape and the way you take off your back cover.
One reason the battery shape is different is to allow the SD and SIM cards to be swapped out without removing the battery.
A lot of phones don't have a removable battery... having one is better despite the changes.
Yes, it's true every year samsung makes a new battery size. It's normal. Every year, I sell my previous note with batteries included, and re-buy the new ones. But I would rather that anyways, I sell them for a decent price, use a coupon code every year to get them for $25 a piece, and the newer batteries have a higher capacity since they haven't worn out.
Plus, I get little upgrades, like last year samsung released the battery+charger holder combo for the same $25!
I understand it can be a little annoying, but you wouldn't want a year or two year old battery in your phone when new ones are so cheap anyways.
Also, S5 was the first Samsung to get this long "style" battery. And I hope it looks like the one in that picture, I'm so used to the black, but that shiny silver would be cool. I don't remember seeing that in any unbox videos tho, maybe that's the note edge?
When will XDA get rid off these ridiculous signatures?
Anyway, every year I have to sell or throw away many batteries, what a waste. The batteries are so expensive and bad for the environment.
This is one of the more idiotic posts I've seen in a while. The internal layout of phones constantly change based on developing technology. The addition of the fingerprint scanner and heartbeat sensor in the S5/Alpha/Note 4 along with the new UV and SpO2 sensors in the Note 4 all necessitate changes to internal layout. As SOCs change in power consumption and heat dissipation, there may have to be changes in cooling layouts. The new ISOCELL sensors and flashes may have different sizes. Also with the new metal frames, Samsung may have tweaked the position of the internal radios and GPS.
In fact the S5, Alpha, and Note 4 all share similar battery proportions (tall, narrow batteries) which are quite different from the S4 and Note 3. It's not a huge surprise as all the phones share similar SOCs and sensors.
They change the battery shape to accommodate the hardware changes. It's really nothing more. It would be impossible to use the Note 3 battery with the Note 4 internals and keep the phone shape.
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Samzebian said:
And I hope it looks like the one in that picture, I'm so used to the black, but that shiny silver would be cool. I don't remember seeing that in any unbox videos tho, maybe that's the note edge?
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Unfortunately the shipping ones are black. All the silver ones that I've seen are all marked "SAMSUNG CONFIDENTIAL", so they may indicate a prototype / non-retail device.
wow !!! the thread title deserves a medal
bala_gamer said:
wow !!! the thread title deserves a medal
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Thanks, thumb up if you like it.
kuromusha38 said:
As we all know, the battery is the Note 4 is virtually the same as the one used in Note 3, it's only 20 mah larger in capacity. So why didn't samsung just stay at 3200 mah?
The real reason I found out after many nights of careful analysis is that Samsung does not want use to use Note 3 battery on the Note 4, therefore it would promote their battery sales, which makes up a substantial portion of their income. Samsung engineers obvious is not capable of figuring out how to make a improvement on the battery capacity despite note 4 is so much heavy than the Note 3. So the other goal achieved is to save face, so that they would not get criticism from the public for not improve on the battery capacity, despite there is virtually no piratical benefit makes the phone 19% heavier.
Like if you agree.
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Yup. Stupid people are born stupid. The human race is doomed.
Lmao
Samzebian said:
Also, S5 was the first Samsung to get this long "style" battery.
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Actually, the Galaxy Round was the first Samsung phone to use this type of battery shape.
You are correct:
lmao lol
I thought I was on Facebook for a second... Like if you agree?
The Note 2 had a different battery than the Note 3... I don't recall any updated phone being capable of falling back and using it's replacements battery. I really hope this didn't tax your thoughts too much.

[Q] Pre-ordered Note 4 and already having 2nd thoughts?

So I pre-ordered my Note 4 through T-Mobile and a leak has come out about the Nexus 6.
Why am I having second thoughts to cancel the Note 4 and wait to see what Nexus could bring.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/nexus-6-confirmed-5-9-inch-qhd-resolution-display-coming-motorola.html
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Maybe this will help? No spen, SD card, removable battery, multi window, mouse actions, etc. The note series is really the best big phone out there. Not because of hardware, but Samsung software really takes advantage of it. Stock android just doesn't.
But...it is impressive that moto fit a 5.9" screen in a small body about the size if the note 4.
Then do it. All talk.
Best thing about having Jump 1 is being able to jump whenever I feel like!!! If I dont like the Note 4, I'll just Jump to the Nexus 6.
Brandon_schulze said:
Best thing about having Jump 1 is being able to jump whenever I feel like!!! If I dont like the Note 4, I'll just Jump to the Nexus 6.
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If T-Mobile carries it. Which they won't if it doesn't have WiFi calling
aooga said:
Maybe this will help? No spen, SD card, removable battery, multi window, mouse actions, etc.
But...it is impressive that moto fit a 5.9" screen in a small body about the size if the note 4.
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You are right it is the best big phone out there, I played with it at Best Buy.
*The S-pen I really liked it, almost like writing on paper.
*SD Card - I don't mind losing it. I'm actually waiting for my 2nd 64Gb microsd replacement from sandisk, somehow they always go to a locked state. (I have 3 more sitting at home since I lost the receipts SanDisk won't replace them)
*Removable battery - I've never swapped for a bigger battery on my GS3 or my GS4. Thought the power saving feature will come handy in some occasions.
* Multi-Window - always had it rarely ever used it. I'm sure it's better on the Note 4 because of the bigger screen.
*Mouse action w\ S-pen - Now that will be useful for me.
*samsungalaxypromotions.com - I don't think NEXUS would give me $200 for my old GS3.
*Speaker - Really loud on the Note 4, kinda gets distorted at max level.
I've never had a nexus before, just a little jealous they get OS updates quickly lol.
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You are
I've never had a nexus before, just a little jealous they get OS updates quickly
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Yup this is the best nexus feature. But most Samsung devices get pretty good development support. So even if T-Mobile doesn't release it quickly, you'll at least get it a few months quicker when the international version gets it.
But you really don't use multi window? That's one of the beet features on android IMO.
As for the SD card, I bought a Samsung one a whole ago and haven't had any issues with it.
aooga said:
If T-Mobile carries it. Which they won't if it doesn't have WiFi calling
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Good point, I did turned off wifi calling for about 3 weeks just a couple days ago and fortunately coverage is good in my area.
Questions for Note 3 users: If you install the Google launcher do you lose some of the S-Pen features?
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Good point, I did turned off wifi calling for about 3 weeks just a couple days ago and fortunately coverage is good in my area.
Questions for Note 3 users: If you install the Google launcher do you lose some of the S-Pen features?
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Nope. It's a touchwiz thing. You can use any launcher. You really don't lose anything by switching to a different launcher. (I had a note 3 before my S5).
aooga said:
Nope. It's a touchwiz thing. You can use any launcher. You really don't lose anything by switching to a different launcher. (I had a note 3 before my S5).
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Thanks for clearing that up.
hatchback said:
*SD Card - I don't mind losing it. I'm actually waiting for my 2nd 64Gb microsd replacement from sandisk, somehow they always go to a locked state. (I have 3 more sitting at home since I lost the receipts SanDisk won't replace them)
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i RMAed a 64gb microSD with sandisk earlier this year, and they didn't ask for a receipt. they asked me to take 2 pictures of the card (front and back intact), 2nd set of pics was the card destroyed in 2 pieces (front and back as well), and my replacement card was on its way the next 2 days. i believe that sd card has a 10yr warranty, and i RMA it 1yr later after purchase, so it makes sense that a receipt is not required for a product that has only been out for 1yr only, or maybe i just got lucky with a nice rep.
I will try giving another call.
aooga said:
Maybe this will help? No spen, SD card, removable battery, multi window, mouse actions, etc. The note series is really the best big phone out there. Not because of hardware, but Samsung software really takes advantage of it. Stock android just doesn't.
But...it is impressive that moto fit a 5.9" screen in a small body about the size if the note 4.
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Yep! Nothing else on the market even comes close, but that's IF you need all those functions. I do, so the Note is the only choice. The Spen and oneNote are things I can't live without. Otherwise if you don't need that, then yeah go for the N6 save some money and don't deal with Samsung anymore.
If the nexus6 had 128gb onboard, I would have gone for that. 16 and 32gb phones are just too small.
The only trepidation I have about the note4 is how long it going to takes before Samsung releases androidL on the device. They always take forever. The note3 is still in 4.4.2, when all the Motorola phones and most HTC phones have all been upgraded.
hatchback said:
You are right it is the best big phone out there, I played with it at Best Buy.
*The S-pen I really liked it, almost like writing on paper.
*SD Card - I don't mind losing it. I'm actually waiting for my 2nd 64Gb microsd replacement from sandisk, somehow they always go to a locked state. (I have 3 more sitting at home since I lost the receipts SanDisk won't replace them)
*Removable battery - I've never swapped for a bigger battery on my GS3 or my GS4. Thought the power saving feature will come handy in some occasions.
* Multi-Window - always had it rarely ever used it. I'm sure it's better on the Note 4 because of the bigger screen.
*Mouse action w\ S-pen - Now that will be useful for me.
*samsungalaxypromotions.com - I don't think NEXUS would give me $200 for my old GS3.
*Speaker - Really loud on the Note 4, kinda gets distorted at max level.
I've never had a nexus before, just a little jealous they get OS updates quickly lol.
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i actually noticed that too. i had to lower it at best buy. Im hoping its a demo software bug that can be fixed. On the other hand, my level on headphones with my note 3.... i sometimes wish i could crank up the volume louder so maybe the note 4 will make a difference it volume levels.
If anythign, get the Note 4 and later on just flash a AOSP L rom on it...
You will loose samsung features but then again you can also flash back to a Samsung Rom...
Best of both worlds...

Battery replacement - Battery from Sony Xperia Z2 into my Xperia Z

Hello xda Guys.
I am new and I have a question. Since I have updated my Xperia Z I have problems with my battery time. Before I have done update my battery was very slow too, but now it is horrible. I wanted to replace it four months ago, but I hadn't time. Now my question: Can I place the battery from the Z2 into my Xperia Z, or not?
Thanks Guys for your help
nope, from long distance its look like z2 battery is similar to z, but when you see them those are totally different batteries.
But you can buy bigger battery for z:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...3_74_75,201560_1&spm=2114.04020208.3.2.umgOBj
my friend have it, he said that its not HUGE difference, but he dont have problem with it at all, and compared to my phone, with new original battery its WAY better,(not as you would expected looking at size but still) especially in heavy games. after day of usage he still have 30-40 when I had to use power bank
Thanks alot for this Information
i live in bangladesh.. can i replace the battery own moblie...plz inform me
Be careful with cheap batteries from China. They tend to exaggerate a *lot*, and are often much worse than OEM batteries. At that price, it is far too good to be true. I can nearly guarantee it will be no better than stock, and possibly fail and overheat easily.
I bought a PolarCell battery from Germany, they are a known quality brand of aftermarket batteries. Rated at 2500mAh, slightly higher than the stock, and it was ~$25 - much more than any other brand, bit they are proven to be high quality. However, it performs identically to my original 2330mAh battery in terms of screen on time (goes flat well before end of the day with heavy use). Instead I got a battery bank case thing, that the phone clips into and it connects to the side dock. Also has a button on the back to turn on/off the battery bank charging mode. Works well, but blocks standard USB port.
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Probably 95% of batteries are from China
Rest is maybe from Taiwan or India :]
And yes, you should watch out for some of them, but this one that I posted is actually good, and not only because my friend have it, but because most of reviews are positive about it(not only from aliexpress).
Its not give you huge boots, like you would expect from capacity of it, but its definitely is better(especially standby).
But Everything depend from user
I found out that most of people complaining, use phone a lot, or they have loots of background sync and apps running. And they expected HUGE boots or 12 years standby mode.
Im heavy user, sometimes I think that Im only person that use phone to work(rest people use it as for media consumption) and even if I recently put new original battery I still cant manage full day of usage, and Im a bit mad because I could buy this bigger one.
PS. I have case with wireless charging I wanted the same as CosmicDan but phone is WAY to big with it. I dont use it now(I actually hate phone cases) But its pretty cool and actually fast charging. but small movement and it stops so it was annoying as hell. I bought it mostly for night charging, but its turn out that Docking station is just better...
Akinaro said:
Probably 95% of batteries are from China
Rest is maybe from Taiwan or India :]
And yes, you should watch out for some of them, but this one that I posted is actually good, and not only because my friend have it, but because most of reviews are positive about it(not only from aliexpress).
Its not give you huge boots, like you would expect from capacity of it, but its definitely is better(especially standby).
But Everything depend from user
I found out that most of people complaining, use phone a lot, or they have loots of background sync and apps running. And they expected HUGE boots or 12 years standby mode.
Im heavy user, sometimes I think that Im only person that use phone to work(rest people use it as for media consumption) and even if I recently put new original battery I still cant manage full day of usage, and Im a bit mad because I could buy this bigger one.
PS. I have case with wireless charging I wanted the same as CosmicDan but phone is WAY to big with it. I dont use it now(I actually hate phone cases) But its pretty cool and actually fast charging. but small movement and it stops so it was annoying as hell. I bought it mostly for night charging, but its turn out that Docking station is just better...
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Yes of course most things are manufactured on China, but the old adage "you get what you pay for" shouldn't be forgotten. I'd personally never trust a $10 battery that claims to have 1000mAh higher than every other, $20 battery. Standby is not a problem, can last for days on standby with original battery. SoT with adaptive brightness and regular use is what matters - unless you yourself have this battery and can personally say it lasts more than a day with heavy use, and doesn't develop a memory effect after 6 months, then I guess it is good. But some people prefer to be safe than sorry. I used to repair phones as a technician and 90% of aftermarket batteries out there are complete garbage, that's all I'm saying.
Wireless charging? How does that work, the Z doesn't have wireless charging capability? And it's not that thick, only adds another 0.8mm to thickness. You get used to it after a while, and it has enough juice to fully charge the battery with a bit to spare.
EDIT: This is the one I'm using: http://www.dx.com/p/rechargeable-28...-case-for-sony-l36h-black-216633#.Vhj0vIkzHqA
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Well, yeah, but many time I bought something from original shop, that is original new, and it was not cheap, and it had good opinion from forum users... and it was crap like hell.
Especially headphones. I'm crazy about headphone.. And those are not typical headphones for show off like most people use them today. I actually never use headphones in public(cant focus...).
And I bough many Sony headphones, Koss, JVC, AKG... aaaaand few times I bought Sennheiser because people say that they are good, and amazing etc etc... and those after Beats are really bad... even compared to JVC from HA series(best quality/price ratio)
So just because something is expensive it doesnt mean its better :]
And about wireless charging. you can buy something like that:
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But instead of microUSB you have small pins that are on side of case that connect to phone, just like most of cases for XZ that have powerbank.
I cant make picture of it(im not in home) but later I'll try find email with ebay link to buy one.
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Well, yeah, but many time I bought something from original shop, that is original new, and it was not cheap, and it had good opinion from forum users... and it was crap like hell.
Especially headphones. I'm crazy about headphone.. And those are not typical headphones for show off like most people use them today. I actually never use headphones in public(cant focus...).
And I bough many Sony headphones, Koss, JVC, AKG... aaaaand few times I bought Sennheiser because people say that they are good, and amazing etc etc... and those after Beats are really bad... even compared to JVC from HA series(best quality/price ratio)
So just because something is expensive it doesnt mean its better :]
And about wireless charging. you can buy something like that:
But instead of microUSB you have small pins that are on side of case that connect to phone, just like most of cases for XZ that have powerbank.
I cant make picture of it(im not in home) but later I'll try find email with ebay link to buy one.
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That's fair enough. Many brands claim to be genuine but are fake, indeed. But if the one you shared is clearly stated as non-genuine and has good reviews, than fair enough - I'm sure it's OK.
Headphones are such a flooded market, I bought an $80 pair once and they had terrible low range response. My $20 Samsung pair were so much better.
That's a pretty cool wireless charging thing, never seen them before. But do you keep it always connected and just have it stuck to the back with tape? [emoji14] the plug could also be damaged, so I would not use it for those reasons. But that's just me, still a cool accessory.
But if they combined the case design (like the one I shared) with a wireless charging thing, so it would be much thinner + connect to side dock and keep USB free, that would be cool!
EDIT: Sorry, didn't see what you said below - so it *does* connect to the dock on the side, nice!
I am planning on a new phone this Christmas, myself, so I am probably done with gadgets for the Z myself. Either the Xperia C5 Ultra (I miss my old phablet, its pretty cheap and will get Android 6.0 update too) or the BlackBerry Priv. But I digress.
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Im also waiting for BB Priv -_- I love this phone so much that I put picture of it in my p0rn folder xD
I hope battery is good in it
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Im also waiting for BB Priv -_- I love this phone so much that I put picture of it in my p0rn folder xD
I hope battery is good in it [emoji14]
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Ha-ha for sure, it is beautiful and I loved the Qwerty keyboard on my old Nokia E63. But I'm worried about the price, C5 Ultra us only $500 AU brand new (which is maybe $420 USD I think). It's a mid range device, I only want big screen so I can type better like I used to. But keyboard much better. Priv surely has flagship specs, but I'm expecting it to be over $1000 AU - not sure I can afford that! But we will see
So... Batteries? Off topic Lol.... [emoji14]
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Is Mi 8 still worth buying at the end of 2020?

This is mostly about the popularity of the phone and the support of the community.
Do you expect that there will still be custom roms for Mi 8 in 2-3 years?
I really like this phone and I can buy it in excellent condition for 180-200 euros.
But if there's not enough support from the community it's useless.
Cheers!
djuka007 said:
This is mostly about the popularity of the phone and the support of the community.
Do you expect that there will still be custom roms for Mi 8 in 2-3 years?
I really like this phone and I can buy it in excellent condition for 180-200 euros.
But if there's not enough support from the community it's useless.
Cheers!
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I bought a used one couple weeks ago in perfect condition (couldnt find even a small scratch on the back) and less than a year old for 130 euros. So 180-200 euros are way too much
If the condition of the battery is ok, then you will definitely have a great experience with the phone. Great screen, great performance and great camera
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I bought a used one couple weeks ago in perfect condition (couldnt find even a small scratch on the back) and less than a year old for 130 euros. So 180-200 euros are way too much
If the condition of the battery is ok, then you will definitely have a great experience with the phone. Great screen, great performance and great camera
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At that price it's definitely a no brainier but I don't have anything remotely cheap on offer.
Still suggest buy other phone cause of mi8 battery capacity really small
If you comes from phone can holds from morning until your bed time/night without charging, this phone isn't for you.
The downside of this phone is the battery, other than that, if you wouldn't mind charging 2 times a day. I recommend you this phone.
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If you comes from phone can holds from morning until your bed time/night without charging, this phone isn't for you.
The downside of this phone is the battery, other than that, if you wouldn't mind charging 2 times a day. I recommend you this phone.
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Maybe I'm not typical - but at the moment, I can get three days between charges. Even when I'm away to the office, I could get 2 days.
lybad said:
Maybe I'm not typical - but at the moment, I can get three days between charges. Even when I'm away to the office, I could get 2 days.
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yeah it depends on your usage and battery condition, my phone is 2 y.o and battery condition is about 60% holding max charge about 2096 mAh, my usage is social media and messaging app, data and wifi always connected. average total standby from 100 - 20% is 12-14 Hrs, with SoT 3-4Hrs. (can be worse if you using data only) So I should charge it 1 times more to last for one day. I don't complain much about the battery because my previous device has a small battery too.
I still have more than 3 hours of OST on my S4 which is 6 years old (with original battery), so that's a really bad result.
Do you have any other suggestions of a 845/855 with OIS camera setup?
The only thing that comes to mind in the price range of 200 euros is Mi Mix 3 (if you can find it for that money in good condition).
Newer generations - Mi9/pro or mi 9t pro are more expensive but only have EIS
go for it. I bought my mi8 in oct 2018 (so 2 yo now) and still hit 6h of sot (xiaomi.eu rom, on Paranoid android even better). I only use the QC in emergency, always used a normal 1.5a charger and my battery is just fine. snapdragon 845 is strong, we don't need to launch a nasa rocket lol
I think its a great phone, I have it for about a half a year now, had samsung s9 plus (exynos) before. I have offical Lineage on Mi8 and it works great. I miss two things on this phone (wireless charging and 90hz display). I think battery life is much better than samsung s9 plus. Speed of the phone is completely sufficient, I have like 100+ apps on it and works completly fine, and camera is superb. I have google camera installed on it and it makes great photos - in theory it has almost google pixel picture quality (it has the same sensor as the new Pixel5). I think its like the most complete good phone experience for 200€, if you are prepared to put in a bit of work (lineage, gcam), and I have high hopes for support because there are some projects supporting android 11, hopefully we will se lineage 18 on Mi8.
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djuka007 said:
This is mostly about the popularity of the phone and the support of the community.
Do you expect that there will still be custom roms for Mi 8 in 2-3 years?
I really like this phone and I can buy it in excellent condition for 180-200 euros.
But if there's not enough support from the community it's useless.
Cheers!
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Go on and join to xiaomi_dipper on telegram
gefrost7 said:
If you comes from phone can holds from morning until your bed time/night without charging, this phone isn't for you.
The downside of this phone is the battery, other than that, if you wouldn't mind charging 2 times a day. I recommend you this phone.
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yeah it depends on your usage and battery condition, my phone is 2 y.o and battery condition is about 60% holding max charge about 2096 mAh, my usage is social media and messaging app, data and wifi always connected. average total standby from 100 - 20% is 12-14 Hrs, with SoT 3-4Hrs. (can be worse if you using data only) So I should charge it 1 times more to last for one day. I don't complain much about the battery because my previous device has a small battery too.
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I have then same usage as you, but i charge it every 2 days, I bought mine on jan 2019
ItalianWolf said:
I have then same usage as you, but i charge it every 2 days, I bought mine on jan 2019
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hmmm didn't sure what's wrong, but it's used anyway, the previous user is a heavy mobile gamer, so no wonder the battery health is only ~60%. I really want to replace the battery, but my local Xiaomi Service Center wouldn't accept my phone because it's not sold officially in my country. want to replace with nohon battery (which is recommended by another user here), but nohon can't ship their product to my country.
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Go on and join to xiaomi_dipper on telegram
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Can you link this please?
Dr.Dinel said:
Can you link this please?
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Access Telegram and type that in search box
Good luck

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