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Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
They are active over at pocketGPSworld and seem legit, although given Expansys aren't claiming to have an in-stock date I'd be a little dubious about stock coming in Wednesday.
Do let us know what you do
Gordon
Thanks Gordon.
I don't really believe the availability date, they have other HTC phones with the same date given for availability so it's probably just a general day when they receive their HTC shipments or something.
The P4550 page looks a bit out of date - a couple of the specs (GPS chip, RAM) look like they're taken from old information, so I'm guessing the availability date is a little way out as well. I've been waiting since January though, so a bit longer wont hurt.
They've got quite a good score on DealTime but I'm never sure whether to trust those sorts of sites, I'm happier listening to forum opinions, so unless I see a load of negative opinion, I'll probably go with them later this week - but I think I'll use PayPal or Google Checkout for a little extra peace of mind.
Seems they have removed the phone now as cannot see it on there site.
Superiorgadgets is taking pre-orders
http://www.superiorgadgets.com/ca/product_info.php?products_id=224
Couple of suggestions
I've used these guys before:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_P4550.html
and these guys have been around for ages!
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
Gordon
Expansys
I used expansys sometimes it is a great seller so i ask me why they don`t accept pre-order for the Kaiser... You can pre-order a iphone too wich nobody knows when it will be aviable in Europe....
Another one taking pre-orders
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/HTC-P4550
Another pre-order HERE
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
evolution_theory said:
Wow $869 USD???
Is that really the price?
What if I waited and purchased it from Cingular? I'm wondering if the preorder price is so high because it's without carrier?
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check link agian it costs now : $766.50
This product will be in stock on Thursday 20 September, 2007.?!?!? Well not so quickly
It was supposed to june in Asia, then delayed til Aug, now most probably will be Sep however will want HTC to iron out the details first before we get our hands on one, don't really wish to be a guniea pig tester
kaiserchief said:
Has anybody around here ever used www.superetrader.co.uk, 'cause that's who I'm thinking of placing my pre-order with...
Alternatively, has anyone got any recommendations for where to put my name down (in the UK, preferably).
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I used superetraders to get my ETEN M700, they were very helpful with the order (complicated with a cc registered in one country and delivery to another country). The device arrived within the time they said and the phone had had a pre-sales check - I never got any of the problems that seemd to plague others!
I can heartily recommend them!
Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
Well I placed my oredr with Superetrader and payment was taken straight out of my account because I (stupidly, it seems) used Google Checkout.
Google Checkout showed my P4550 as "Posted" but, as noted earlier in this thread, Superetrader then took the P4550 off their site.
A few e-mails later trying to figure out what was really going on, Superetrader have confirmed that the release date has slipped to "Hopefully late July or early August". Shame I had to pay for the thing way in advance, but I'm hopeless with money so at least I know it's paid for and will be on it's way asap.
Moral is avoid Google Checkout! I have no problem with Superetrader, but the whole process has been complicated by Google and their fledgling payment service, which clearly needs a bit of ironing out.
Kaiser on ebay
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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$1350?!?!?! I hope that is packed full of gold and various high-quality jewels.
Pre-Release Phone Sold
deluxion said:
Guys,
Grab a Kaiser from ebay
Just found this one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Kaiser-P4...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Sorry guys, phone is sold... to ME
Yer it is slightly expensive.. but I am going to salary sacrifice it.. trusty tax cut so overall it wont be that bad.
Can't wait till it gets here! Tho it will be a few days cos its coming to Aus..
- Syrius
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Anyone know if Kaiser is going to be available in Australia if so when.
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I have an email confirming that the delivery date is scheduled for the fisrt week of September.
www.calculatorking.com.au
I bought my O2 Mini from these guys so they are very reputable.
Hi to all,
I want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and I was really satisfy about service so I decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site I saw that two models are available but I was interested only in the completely white one so I ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day I release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6USD due to account limitation) on next order that I'll never do cause It's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6USD) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so I asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.S. attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
Sorry for what happened
i faced the same problem they listed a phone with high specification at a high price yet it was just specifications hacked in kernel the phone was not of quality as it was priced i bought it at USD 295 yet other phones of exact spec without hacking kernels were at USD 165 so if you are buying online its better you buy from sites with payments protections like escrow of aliexpress as the product i bought there was real coz it had to wait for my confirmation the payments to be made which force the sellers to be sure of what they are doing.
In fact the item was shipped with very low prices i never requested for which led me to be over taxed as the tax authority had to do it by themselves.
Do NOT FALL VICTIM
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
i have read and others have complains for same problems (just google it )
i was about to buy from them but it think i will consider it twice
the posthumous fame[/B] should be re-considered by all Internet Shops
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
10 post noobs everywhere!
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rubbering said:
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
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Here's one I busted on aPad.tv.com forum; regarding Hyundai T7 Exynos 4 quad-core processor Tablet PC:
me: I ordered 1 a week ago. It was supposed to have been in stock, but when I checked on the status it was still unshipped. I was beginning to wonder if the T7 even existed; so what aPadTVadmin said about them being in stock, makes since now. I guess most of these online stores get all their stuff drop-shipped, am I assuming correct?
aPadTVadmin: I spoke to DP a couple of days ago regarding the T7 for another reason and all T7 units have been shipped out. This was Thursday. If you ordered 1 week ago it would have shipped out nearly same day. I witnessed with my own eyes a large stock of T7 Hyundais being processed for shipping out last time I visited there.
Please give me your order number so I can validate it and check with them for you.
me: BUNCH OF SCAM ARTISTS! I contacted the manufacturer today and found out that they don't even start shipping them until March 7th, 2013. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYONE EVEN HAS T7'S YET, EXCEPT FOR A FEW ENGINEERING SAMPLES THAT WENT OUT. SO MUCH FOR SEEING THEM WITH YOUR OWN EYES... MORE LIKE LYING OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH.
GadgetGreats.com, DealsPrime.com aPadtv; ALL ONE OF THE SAME; SCAMMERS! Also AD PANDAWILL.COM TO THE LIST OF SCAMMERS, INCLUDING EVERBUYING.COM
ALWAYS PAY W/PAYPAL, IN 7 DAYS IF THEY HAVEN'T UPLOADED A TRACEABLE TRACKING #, PAYPAL PUTS A HOLD ON THE PAYMENT,
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icestage said:
hi to all,
i want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and i was really satisfy about service so i decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site i saw that two models are available but i was interested only in the completely white one so i ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day i release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6usd due to account limitation) on next order that i'll never do cause it's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6usd) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so i asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.s. Attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
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this guy who wrote this is also part of the scam; he want's you think that the company actually ships a good product, while the truth is, what you'll get is an imitation of the product you order, if at all that; these guys are all in cahoots, and they're on every forum & youtube video out there. They are good at what they do & once they ship the inferior product, if you return it, you lost all your money, point blank.
aliexpress.com is the best site to buy tablets/phones from china. they have buyer protection, and the money isn't released from your account till you confirm the device is received and working.
Scam
I ran into the FCT trap too. Should have done some more research beforehand .
I ordered an HDC Note 3 clone from them and paid through Paypal. They provided a Singapore shipping number and the next day told me the phone is out of stock and was not shipped. Meaning a fake shipping number was provided. The same time the same phone is still listed on their website as "in stock" and questions of potential customers are answered.
They told me to choose an alternative phone which I did with another HDC N9002. 35$ more expensive which difference I paid. They did not ship, after a number of reminders they however provided again the same (!) fake shipping number as before. So the item was never ever intended to be shipped. They play for time and money to get over the 45 days to launch a Paypal dispute. So be careful.
Currently a dispute for full refund is ongoing.
Stay away from these scammers!
SCAM artists
I'm also getting countless fake shipping numbers regarding broken tablet that I actually received from them.
Beware of FCT!
They are always delaying with shipping (some items they never ship). Their policy is to provide a bit lower prices than the others at first sight and then add extra fees for nothing and eventually ship the item you ordered when it is already outdated.
Fake shipping numbers are their method of delay.
FCT
I recently ordered from FCT and of course before reading all the forums of countless individuals who have been scammed or dooped by these guys.
Anyway after 2 weeks from placing my order I received a tracking number followed by another tracking number 2 days later (weird), then a week later it was scanned into the U.S, 2 or so more days it actually arrived at my door!!! (bing bong)
I was pretty stoked however, once I opened my package (HDC GT N9000 Note3) one thing was missing ...No stylus!! so after numerous calls to these guys via Skype (preferred and only method to contact them) I finally speak to a man who tells me that if I buy another phone they would include the stylus plus a gift free of charge....wait the phone was advertised to include this?? blah blah something shipping he began to ramble on about.... all n all pointless
I'm now a month into having my phone which appears to be pretty effin exact to the Note3 however yesterday my phone just disconnected from my network and will not re-connect. I cannot reach a soul at this place leaving me with a fancy mini internet tab/paperweight/possibly shooting target..
Basically they were great until I gave them my money and the phone is awesome however customer service is a huge key to running any successful business and this is something they LACK.....
GOOD LUCK!
how do you use ems tracking
beefgalore said:
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i actually order a week ago and in Monday they send me a tracking number that says no information also... starting to suspect a bit weird 3 days and no tracking....
Fingers crossed..........
Regards FRZ
Dear all
I know that what you are going through is unacceptable and we are all working through the nights and weekends to resolve this issue. Supplies from the manufacturer are scarce and erratic, and our communication has been flawed. I can offer an unreserved apology for our service and communication failures in this process.
For those that originally received a 3-5 days shipping estimate, your orders are now in process for fulfillment. You can expect an email notification early this week which will include tracking information. Although you will be initially charged in full, you will receive a credit for the shipping charge soon after.
For others that received pre-Christmas shipping estimates, we anticipate processing your orders for fulfillment this week.
I realise that the people who ordered the Nexus 4 so early are among our most committed and loyal users and we are doing all we can to put things right.
Sorry again.
Dan
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Head of Google UK (Dan Cobley) finally offers some insight and an apology on this mess of a launch.
I apologize if this has already been posted, I couldn't find anything.
Full Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/17/nexus-4-delays-apology-blame
erosgulo said:
Head of Google UK (Dan Cobley) finally offers some insight and an apology on this mess of a launch.
I apologize if this has already been posted, I couldn't find anything.
Full Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/17/nexus-4-delays-apology-blame
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
If you want to look at a product launch that REALLY failed, you only have to look at the Xbox360, 60% failure rate after 3 years on the market..... Thats a REAL botched product launch...
www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
And the background behind the problems...
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/x...istory-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/
CrazyPeter said:
What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
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granted, some people are drama queens, but there are many people who still haven't received their order from Nov 13, and don't forget all the backordered folks from the initial release. Still there's some 1-2 weekers who have not received shipping emails. There's also the issue of ppl not receiving their devices in proportion to their order time. Furthermore, he's also apologizing about their lack of communication, which was another issue.
Also, providing an example of a greater failure doesn't justify this one haha.
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
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Google originally quoted 3-5 day shipping to those of us who ordered on Nov 13. Then we got a backorder email the next day that changed the estimate to 3 weeks. I got my phone yesterday. That's right, a day shy of 5 weeks. Some Nov 13 orders have yet to be filled. They have NOT been filling the orders in the order that they were made, nor have they kept up with demand. This has been a shameful fiasco. Why do you think the shippong and orders thread has almost 40,000 posts?
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WHAT???!!! AN APOLOGY FOR LATE SHIPPING???!!! WHO CARES! FK HIM AND HIS APOLOGY!!!!
Where's an apology for USB/OTG and all the hardware issues??? Who needs an apology, recall this phone and start over again. They need to be hit where it hurts, in the wallet. Apologies don't hurt them financially. Fk that.
A lot of people got backordered, and even at this moment, the phone is completely sold out. There aren't really people being drama queens factoring in that the Google website is pretty much the only place to get the phone (unless you want to pay 200 dollars more), and when other products are sold out, there are lots of other places that might be supplied. LG came in with a really small supply of Nexus 4's, and it's hurt us in the end. Then again, I think the problem is also that, even now, I don't think they're that incredibly concerned since they're not looking to profit off the phone majorly as they are just trying to introduce the phone into the market as a stepping stone for other companies. If they don't sell some large number like 2 million phones, they are more than happy and I don't think that's what their intentions were in the first place. Unfortunately, this ends up hurting a lot of people who actually want the phone, or who have it and want accessories and such.
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A lot of people got backordered, and even at this moment, the phone is completely sold out. There aren't really people being drama queens factoring in that the Google website is pretty much the only place to get the phone (unless you want to pay 200 dollars more), and when other products are sold out, there are lots of other places that might be supplied. LG came in with a really small supply of Nexus 4's, and it's hurt us in the end. Then again, I think the problem is also that, even now, I don't think they're that incredibly concerned since they're not looking to profit off the phone majorly as they are just trying to introduce the phone into the market as a stepping stone for other companies. If they don't sell some large number like 2 million phones, they are more than happy and I don't think that's what their intentions were in the first place. Unfortunately, this ends up hurting a lot of people who actually want the phone, or who have it and want accessories and such.
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I wonder if/when google will bring the nexus line to motorola if we'll see an actual big player rise in the smartphone world. I imagine if google put in an actual real solitary effort into the nexus line (instead of these half assed cooperative efforts) and advertised its product well, we would see a legitimate competitor in the smartphone market. There is some money to be made with the rise of android in the past year. I hope google will consider augmenting its objectives for the nexus line in the near future.
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
If you want to look at a product launch that REALLY failed, you only have to look at the Xbox360, 60% failure rate after 3 years on the market..... Thats a REAL botched product launch...
www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
And the background behind the problems...
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/x...istory-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/
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What mess? Lol too funny
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estallings15 said:
Google originally quoted 3-5 day shipping to those of us who ordered on Nov 13. Then we got a backorder email the next day that changed the estimate to 3 weeks. I got my phone yesterday. That's right, a day shy of 5 weeks. Some Nov 13 orders have yet to be filled. They have NOT been filling the orders in the order that they were made, nor have they kept up with demand. This has been a shameful fiasco. Why do you think the shippong and orders thread has almost 40,000 posts?
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Because people like posting =)
Not to mention people ordering later than others but still get their phones shipped sooner...
The only mistake Google made with this phone was selling it so cheap so millions of people wanted to buy it instead of getting it.on contract like normal phone.
The only mistake???
Pfft.
Old news ...we have enough news Google screwed up in every aspect of selling the N4, from the launch time announcement to the ordering to the shipping to the communication to the rma's.
you name and it they screwed up big time everywhere they were involved in.
I find it hard to believe how cynical everyone is. I had a few issues as well with Google, but I called and talked through it all. I know some of the customer service representatives are a little clueless, but those who have't got their device yet, probably could have done something about it. Also, Google is new to this game, you can't expect everything to be perfect their first try.
And yes I know they've sold devices before, I have purchased almost all of them, but I don't believe they have ever had such a high demand.
Just relax and enjoy the holidays.
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Old news ...we have enough news Google screwed up in every aspect of selling the N4, from the launch time announcement to the ordering to the shipping to the communication to the rma's.
you name and it they screwed up big time everywhere they were involved in.
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Ermmm... what's with that announcement? Did not correctly estimate sandy schedule?
biffsmash said:
The only mistake Google made with this phone was selling it so cheap so millions of people wanted to buy it instead of getting it.on contract like normal phone.
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Yes, because it would have been sooo much better if they sold it for £500+, just like the iPaidTooMuchForThisPhone.
When you stay awake to be first to order a phone that takes 2 weeks more than it should and there is still no bumper for sale, that is failure. If i wanted to pre order i would have in September.
I do not see LG getting another Nexus after this.
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When you stay awake to be first to order a phone that takes 2 weeks more than it should and there is still no bumper for sale, that is failure. If i wanted to pre order i would have in September.
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The preorders would run out as fast as orders, so you still won't be happy. Preorders don't magically speed up production.
No company on this earth has an infinite supply chain flexibility. Or they are grossly mismanaged. I don't see how it is a failure.
I do not see LG getting another Nexus after this.
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Dunno, I suppose LG probably won't even bid for another nexus. And the next OEM will be Compal, ZTE, Huawei or something.
Or even Motorola, like "dear OEMs, if you don't elect supplying us with a new platform, Motorola will. This is not a threat, we repeat, this is not a threat!"
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vanmarek said:
Yes, because it would have been sooo much better if they sold it for £500+, just like the iPaidTooMuchForThisPhone.
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There woudn't be any supply problems, sleepless nights and anxiety So el goog wouldn't fail and everyone would be happy
I'm not complaining because all the bugs in the initial release could be potentially sorted out when Google makes new devices. Just waiting past what your promised is not enjoyable especially when you get a definite ETA.
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neim81094 said:
I'm not complaining because all the bugs in the initial release could be potentially sorted out when Google makes new devices. Just waiting past what your promised is not enjoyable especially when you get a definite ETA.
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What bugs are these that require new devices?
I was in the market to replace my parent’s old Galaxy Note 2. So I’ve been searching around for comparable phone that has slight upgrades. My Budget is around $300. Parents need a phone with removable battery and good GPS so I’m limited to the LG G3, G4 and Note 3 and 4. Also wants screen at 5.5 inches or larger. So was concerned to read about this widespread bootloop issue. After reading up on this issue it seems all old models/ will eventually be affected. I usually purchase phones second hand off of eBay or Swappa but in this case It seems I must be very careful as it seems many people are unloading these devices which will eventually fail. Some have sold their devices beforehand because of this and I’m sure as second hand buyers we will inherit/get the issue in time. Also not sure about how warranty works for second hand buyers. I’m with T-Mobile by the way. What do you guys think about buying a G4 right now? Safe bet or stay away? Also if you guys know any comparable devices that meet all the criteria or most let me know. Thanks
I'll throw my two cents in here. I bought an LG G2 about a year ago and loved the LG style of hardware, button placement, and great performance. I had the old upgrade itch rear its ugly head and so I decided the G4 was the phone for me. Generally it wouldn't bother me to buy mint used phones, but I decided in this case I should do some research. I found out about the bootloop issue and decided it wasn't worth the risk (for me). An awesome deal came up on eBay, brand new G4 in box for $348, snapped that up right away, got it yesterday and from my time with it so far I love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Sorry for the long preamble, here's my advice, if you can swing the extra $40 -$50 for a new boxed phone (assuming a deal like that pops up on eBay again) I would say go for it. The extra $50 in my mind is well worth the peace of mind knowing that it has a warranty. I will say that when I was looking at Swappa I saw a lot of like new T-Mobile refurbs for the G4, however I was still a bit hesitant on those because I couldn't find much info on T-Mobile's refurbishment process. You may be more comfortable with T-Mobile refurbs than I was though so something to consider. I hope you find something that will work well!
Thanks for the advice
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I'll throw my two cents in here. I bought an LG G2 about a year ago and loved the LG style of hardware, button placement, and great performance. I had the old upgrade itch rear its ugly head and so I decided the G4 was the phone for me. Generally it wouldn't bother me to buy mint used phones, but I decided in this case I should do some research. I found out about the bootloop issue and decided it wasn't worth the risk (for me). An awesome deal came up on eBay, brand new G4 in box for $348, snapped that up right away, got it yesterday and from my time with it so far I love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Sorry for the long preamble, here's my advice, if you can swing the extra $40 -$50 for a new boxed phone (assuming a deal like that pops up on eBay again) I would say go for it. The extra $50 in my mind is well worth the peace of mind knowing that it has a warranty. I will say that when I was looking at Swappa I saw a lot of like new T-Mobile refurbs for the G4, however I was still a bit hesitant on those because I couldn't find much info on T-Mobile's refurbishment process. You may be more comfortable with T-Mobile refurbs than I was though so something to consider. I hope you find something that will work well!
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Yeah the scary part is it seems people are just unloading the phones and you cant really know which ones will have issues later. If i buy new from ebay will i still be covered by T-Mobiles warranty ? I thought to get that you had to buy the phone direct from them ? I will keep looking around to see if any deals come up.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah the scary part is it seems people are just unloading the phones and you cant really know which ones will have issues later. If i buy new from ebay will i still be covered by T-Mobiles warranty ? I thought to get that you had to buy the phone direct from them ? I will keep looking around to see if any deals come up.
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I don't think you'll be covered by T-Mobile's warranty, but you should be covered by LG's manufacturer warranty (I would think anyway) as long as it's new in box. Also a lot of the new supply is likely to be manufactured after the date when they had issues. The issue dates were from months 05-08 of 2015 (from what I've read in the forums). The phone I got from eBay was manufactured in 09 2015 so it should *fingers crossed* be just fine.
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I don't think you'll be covered by T-Mobile's warranty, but you should be covered by LG's manufacturer warranty (I would think anyway) as long as it's new in box. Also a lot of the new supply is likely to be manufactured after the date when they had issues. The issue dates were from months 05-08 of 2015 (from what I've read in the forums). The phone I got from eBay was manufactured in 09 2015 so it should *fingers crossed* be just fine.
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your right. Before i buy it ill have to ask the seller a lot of questions like when was it manufactured and whats the serial numbers and such. Will look into LG's warranty coverage for eBay. I think on eBay you can also buy squaretrade coverage as well.
naruto.ninjakid said:
I was in the market to replace my parent’s old Galaxy Note 2. So I’ve been searching around for comparable phone that has slight upgrades. My Budget is around $300. Parents need a phone with removable battery and good GPS so I’m limited to the LG G3, G4 and Note 3 and 4. Also wants screen at 5.5 inches or larger. So was concerned to read about this widespread bootloop issue. After reading up on this issue it seems all old models/ will eventually be affected. I usually purchase phones second hand off of eBay or Swappa but in this case It seems I must be very careful as it seems many people are unloading these devices which will eventually fail. Some have sold their devices beforehand because of this and I’m sure as second hand buyers we will inherit/get the issue in time. Also not sure about how warranty works for second hand buyers. I’m with T-Mobile by the way. What do you guys think about buying a G4 right now? Safe bet or stay away? Also if you guys know any comparable devices that meet all the criteria or most let me know. Thanks
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Have had mine since about a week after release last year. Zero problems. Will have it for quite a while longer.
there is a new in box on swappa right now, but the seller says he opened the box to remove the sim. Do phones come with a sim already in place like that?
raqfox said:
there is a new in box on swappa right now, but the seller says he opened the box to remove the sim. Do phones come with a sim already in place like that?
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I'm not aware of any phone that comes with a sim pre-installed.
T-Mobile phones come with an unactivated sim on a punch out card. They are not "installed" in the phone. The Swappa seller is not including this sim in his listing.
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For $300 you can manage to get a brand new G4 right now, beside tell get cheaper now that the G5 been announce.
P.S any G4 manufacture on or after 09/16 as far as i know don't have those issues
Will keep an eye out.
DrakenFX said:
For $300 you can manage to get a brand new G4 right now, beside tell get cheaper now that the G5 been announce.
P.S any G4 manufacture on or after 09/16 as far as i know don't have those issues
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Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
naruto.ninjakid said:
Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
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Used prices are roughly 300 used so new would cost 500ish but there have been sales that brought the price down to 400ish. Keep waiting and it'll drop even more.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
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tiskewlio said:
Used prices are roughly 300 used so new would cost 500ish but there have been sales that brought the price down to 400ish. Keep waiting and it'll drop even more.
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well right now the G4 (H811) is going for $400 (Full Price) and just recently there was a $75 off from $400 but ended already....just wait or if you have $100 more to spare just get it, but i just recommend to wait a bit to see a permanent price cut on the G4 or even the V10.
I have a flawless P5 (other than a degraded battery) with nary a scratch or flaw other than normal use. I just bought a Pixel 6a and received a trade-in value of $138 from Google. Swappa is currently selling them in good condition for close to $200 but after fees and shipping it's probably not much different. So should I keep the P5 for a backup in case something happens to the P6a or bite the bullet and send it back? It's sitting here wiped clean but looking pretty good on the table next to the trade-in box. Just some random thoughts would be appreciated.
When the phones I currently own depreciate that much in value - I usually gift them to family members who need them since I always keep them in pristine condition.
If a phone sells for a net profit of $100-$200 and I spent anywhere from $600-$1400 (some unlocked intl. versions of high end SAmsungs have gone even more than $1400), I might as well just gift it to one of my family members. That would make me feel a lot better than selling it for a small profit.
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I have a flawless P5 (other than a degraded battery) with nary a scratch or flaw other than normal use. I just bought a Pixel 6a and received a trade-in value of $138 from Google. Swappa is currently selling them in good condition for close to $200 but after fees and shipping it's probably not much different. So should I keep the P5 for a backup in case something happens to the P6a or bite the bullet and send it back? It's sitting here wiped clean but looking pretty good on the table next to the trade-in box. Just some random thoughts would be appreciated.
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Dang P5 was $400 when I last checked, and $280 with crack screen IIRC. I actually think $280 was lowest.
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Dang P5 was $400 when I last checked, and $280 with crack screen IIRC. I actually think $280 was lowest.
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I know, that's what I thought. I was surprised at the Google offer of only $138 too. Just checked again and mint P5 is only a little over 200 now with 'good' selling at around $180 and a lot of them from major sellers. At this point I'll keep it for a backup device since both my wife and I have the P6a now and just in case... damn slippery phone. lol. Only problem with the P5 is that it's a VZW phone and you know what that means... no rom playing. Both the 6a are bl unlockable for the future.
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Dang P5 was $400 when I last checked, and $280 with crack screen IIRC. I actually think $280 was lowest.
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And just like that Google is offering $400 for the P5 for the P7 trade in. That makes the phone $99 plus tax. This is nuts. How can you turn down a P7 for that price?
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And just like that Google is offering $400 for the P5 for the P7 trade in. That makes the phone $99 plus tax. This is nuts. How can you turn down a P7 for that price?
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I love my P5.. idk what to do.
I had to replace my back camera myself. its fine close shots but not far..
so idk what they will do.
i wish they'd let me do the black friday $499 + the $100 promo code I got one from a friend.
I'd do that all day.
but it wouldn't allow me to do it.
I'll have to play with the P7, I haven't seen it in person, if I like the size, I'll do it.
My 2016 htc one m8 will have to be my backup LOL
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I love my P5.. idk what to do.
I had to replace my back camera myself. its fine close shots but not far..
so idk what they will do.
i wish they'd let me do the black friday $499 + the $100 promo code I got one from a friend.
I'd do that all day.
but it wouldn't allow me to do it.
I'll have to play with the P7, I haven't seen it in person, if I like the size, I'll do it.
My 2016 htc one m8 will have to be my backup LOL
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I LOVED my M8. That's the phone that made me an active member here and where I started learning WAY more about Android and rooting. Became a member here a couple of years before that with the Galaxy s3
andybones said:
I love my P5.. idk what to do.
I had to replace my back camera myself. its fine close shots but not far..
so idk what they will do.
i wish they'd let me do the black friday $499 + the $100 promo code I got one from a friend.
I'd do that all day.
but it wouldn't allow me to do it.
I'll have to play with the P7, I haven't seen it in person, if I like the size, I'll do it.
My 2016 htc one m8 will have to be my backup LOL
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The P7 is large for sure. Without any case it's doable but bound to drop and crack. It's just the way things are. But I did pull the trigger and order it, just too good of a deal to pass up. I'll keep my P6a but I'm not really sure what will become my carrier device yet. Worst case scenario I'll trade in my 6a for the 7a and.. heck I have no idea what I'm doing. Why does Google do that do that to me? But nonetheless I will have 2 great phones to play with. And pretty inexpensive to boot. This might also be a great time for me to play around with unlock and root which I haven't done in years. Bottom line I have a P6a and a P7 total cost $400.
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And just like that Google is offering $400 for the P5 for the P7 trade in. That makes the phone $99 plus tax. This is nuts. How can you turn down a P7 for that price?
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oh man... why did you have to tell us about this amazing deal lol lol? Really tempting to trade my P5 for the P7. But the size and weight of P5 is on another level. One of the best designed phones I've ever used
andybones said:
I love my P5.. idk what to do.
I had to replace my back camera myself. its fine close shots but not far..
so idk what they will do.
i wish they'd let me do the black friday $499 + the $100 promo code I got one from a friend.
I'd do that all day.
but it wouldn't allow me to do it.
I'll have to play with the P7, I haven't seen it in person, if I like the size, I'll do it.
My 2016 htc one m8 will have to be my backup LOL
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My bro.... I am on the check out step of my P7 purchase and it's giving me the option to get that $100 Google store credit for myself and you will get it too if you complete the purchase using my code... Want to do that? I hope Google is not lying lol... because that's what I'm reading at the checkout page.
how does Google send the code? Via e-mail or did I miss something? First pixel I buy through the Google website
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how does Google send the code? Via e-mail or did I miss something? First pixel I buy through the Google website
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When you purchase, I recommend using a burner account specifically for buying from Google Store. If you hang around in https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/ there are hundreds of horror stories of people receiving an empty box (delivery drivers stealing it) and Google refusing to refund or replace, making it exceptionally stressful for you. If you do a chargeback, Google will deactivate your account in retaliation. Against a huge company like Google, you don't really have any recourse.
I always recommend buying from a retailer so you are better protected with consumer laws (you can do a lawful chargeback without the retailer retaliating) and you can pick up the device in person so you know for sure the box has a phone inside it. But sometimes, a promotion is only valid through their official website in which case I recommend using a secondary account that you don't mind being nuked for whatever reason.
Back to the original topic, I'd probably use my P5 until it dies. Pay someone to replace the battery in a few years. It's the perfect size with pretty good battery life based on my usage. I don't game on my phone and mostly only use it for listening to music via bluetooth and some social media. There are no other modern phones that fit in one hand. All the other phones are too big and require both hands to operate. The only downside to this phone is that cell service is really bad. It drops down to 3G in malls meanwhile a Galaxy S9 (2018) has full bars of 4G+. If they release a phone that's the same size as P5 but with the newer P7 hardware, I'm all in.
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oh man... why did you have to tell us about this amazing deal lol lol? Really tempting to trade my P5 for the P7. But the size and weight of P5 is on another level. One of the best designed phones I've ever used
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Sorry, the devil made me do it. but you are correct. There is nothing like the P5 for size and weight. I still have it right here looking at me longingly but it's time to give up the ghost. I have been using the 6a now since it came out. I traded in my P6 (cracked case) and got $300 for it. I hated the P6 and was glad BB offered me the trade-in. The real story here is that the P5 is my wife's phone and I had to pry it from her cold dead hands in order to get her to try the 6a. It was $299 plus a trade-in of $138. The battery on the 5 was shot to heck and she uses it all the time for news/email/social. I let her use my 6a for a day and she finally said ok, it wasn't bad and we bought it. She does like it even though it's a bit larger. It fits in her pockets and running gear (has to use Strava) which I do too. I traded in my P5 for the P6 and regretted it from day one.
But then they came up with the $400 vs $138 and well how can you turn that down with a hundred off on the 7? That phone is just too large to carry but it will be a great phone for the house on either wifi or with my eSim which I rarely use any longer. I mean it's $99 bucks and I'd use it without a case. So there's the two phones, 6a and 7 for 400 dollars. When the 7a comes out I will probably get it if it comes in at the same size as the 6a (or smaller) and they accept a 6a trade-in. But that's a long way off for now.
@swangjang I've seen the stories about the returns. I've probably sent back for trade-in and replacements about 6 or so times over the years. And not to jinx it but never had one problem. I'm going to take the leap of faith again simply because BB is only offering $315 for the P5. That's an $85 difference and nothing to sneeze about. I count in beers and that's about 20 drafts on happy hour. I tried appealing to BB corporate but they didn't budge so Google it is. Anyway, to make a long story short.
bobby janow said:
Sorry, the devil made me do it. but you are correct. There is nothing like the P5 for size and weight. I still have it right here looking at me longingly but it's time to give up the ghost. I have been using the 6a now since it came out. I traded in my P6 (cracked case) and got $300 for it. I hated the P6 and was glad BB offered me the trade-in. The real story here is that the P5 is my wife's phone and I had to pry it from her cold dead hands in order to get her to try the 6a. It was $299 plus a trade-in of $138. The battery on the 5 was shot to heck and she uses it all the time for news/email/social. I let her use my 6a for a day and she finally said ok, it wasn't bad and we bought it. She does like it even though it's a bit larger. It fits in her pockets and running gear (has to use Strava) which I do too. I traded in my P5 for the P6 and regretted it from day one.
But then they came up with the $400 vs $138 and well how can you turn that down with a hundred off on the 7? That phone is just too large to carry but it will be a great phone for the house on either wifi or with my eSim which I rarely use any longer. I mean it's $99 bucks and I'd use it without a case. So there's the two phones, 6a and 7 for 400 dollars. When the 7a comes out I will probably get it if it comes in at the same size as the 6a (or smaller) and they accept a 6a trade-in. But that's a long way off for now.
@swangjang I've seen the stories about the returns. I've probably sent back for trade-in and replacements about 6 or so times over the years. And not to jinx it but never had one problem. I'm going to take the leap of faith again simply because BB is only offering $315 for the P5. That's an $85 difference and nothing to sneeze about. I count in beers and that's about 20 drafts on happy hour. I tried appealing to BB corporate but they didn't budge so Google it is. Anyway, to make a long story short.
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I got the P5 in Aug 2021 for $420 - brand new condition and I never game or use it for any demanding apps or anything like that. I installed a custom ROM and custom kernel in it and chose the most conservative battery parameters and this bad boy can easily go 2 days without a charge in my case. Battery is still running great.
Like I mentioned before - I've always used power units before - I have pretty much owned and used all the Note and Ultras from samsung and I gave my S21 Ultra to my mom. I am a strong believer that big screen phones are tailored to women lol... they never carry their phones in their pockets. But that thing was such a pain to carry around - so heavy and it would tire my hands holding it.
Then I switched to the P5 and the size and weight are amazing. I like the bezels and the shape a lot too. Even though the P5 is a great device overall you could tell that it is still a midranger performer. Switching apps, recording, camera (imo) or doing something that requires power you can tell that it doesn't perform as the power units. And I tried using kernels that were tweaked for performance -it still fell short.
I made the switch to the P7 also - it was a really good deal to pass up and the reviews are very positive thus far. Never held the device or looked at it live but the size shouldn't be too bad. I only hope that it feels nice in the pocket or when walking. I know that it is heavier but hopefully it won't feel like the Samsung bricks lol
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My bro.... I am on the check out step of my P7 purchase and it's giving me the option to get that $100 Google store credit for myself and you will get it too if you complete the purchase using my code... Want to do that? I hope Google is not lying lol... because that's what I'm reading at the checkout page.
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Yes!
I keep trying and it's saying coupon code invalid.
I also did a chat w them the other day.
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Maybe things have changed.
Let's try it!
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Yes!
I keep trying and it's saying coupon code invalid.
I also did a chat w them the other day.
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Maybe things have changed.
Let's try it!
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I'm not trolling or anything but they said they were going to send me the $100 Google store coupon but they never did. And I checked spam/promotions folder in my gmail and still nothing. I might reach out to them also and see what's going on with that. But I read your correspondence with them - maybe they realized they were giving too many discounts with the purchase of the P7 so they took that away (by saying it's an ongoing issue and all those excuses).
Let us know if they ever "fix" your request but I'm assuming they will never give the $100 Google store credit anymore...
Meanwhile here in Canada I just got a 7 Pro for $428CAD through my carrier ($319 in USD). Black Friday deals ftw!
I wonder if you guys ever considered the Zenfone 9... that one seems like a perfect phone also considering its size and performance
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Meanwhile here in Canada I just got a 7 Pro for $428CAD through my carrier ($319 in USD). Black Friday deals ftw!
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Wow, great deal. Trade-in or straight away? Carriers will sometimes give those deals and give credit over 2 years. I got a free P5 that way but had to wait the two years to fully realize it.
I'm perfectly happy with my P5 still. I bought my P2 about a month after it was released and didn't replace it for 4 years until I got my P5, 6 months after the release date. I most likely won't replace my P5 until Google comes to their senses and goes back to the plain slate styling instead of that horrible camera bump.