Hi Guys,
I am pretty blind when it comes to these things so if its been answered, I am sorry - politely direct me to thread of origin.
Anyway, I am wondering with all the News of the Soak Test, generally after the pure edition update comes out, how long does it take for the Verizon update? Is the update regulated for the most part or does it take Verizon considerably more time after release for them to add their bloatware? Should I expect it a few weeks after pure edition OTA (RTM) is released or what?
Thanks - Any feedback is appreciated.
Regards - HMPace
Look at the thread that is about the update http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/5-0-update-motorola-t2925432
jdubya42 said:
Look at the thread that is about the update http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/5-0-update-motorola-t2925432
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Yes, but that does not cover the scope of Verizon or Carrier based updates - that only examines when the Pure Version will get the update and this is why this thread was created....
hasamoder said:
Yes, but that does not cover the scope of Verizon or Carrier based updates - that only examines when the Pure Version will get the update and this is why this thread was created....
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At the beginning of the thread they discussed when the update could possibly happen. Nobody knows when it will hit, but certainly before the end of November.
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At the beginning of the thread they discussed when the update could possibly happen. Nobody knows when it will hit, but certainly before the end of November.
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Sure, I read through that thread and I understand that General Consumption Update will happen soon (likely before end of November) but does this also apply to the Verizon model as well; Lets say in a month time the update get pushed out to all T-Mobile Pure Edition Moto X's will Verizon users have to wait longer? Do Verizon and AT&T Phones get the update at the same time? (as they are different models)...
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Sure, I read through that thread and I understand that General Consumption Update will happen soon (likely before end of November) but does this also apply to the Verizon model as well; Lets say in a month time the update get pushed out to all T-Mobile Pure Edition Moto X's will Verizon users have to wait longer? Do Verizon and AT&T Phones get the update at the same time? (as they are different models)...
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No, the carriers won't get updates at the same time. But, nobody can really pinpoint anything.
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No, the carriers won't get updates at the same time. But, nobody can really pinpoint anything.
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Fair Enough - thanks for feedback, By chance do you know how long AT&T / Verizon Users had to wait for the update to get pushed to the Moto X 2013? I was looking online and could not find the difference in time as a reference...
hasamoder said:
Fair Enough - thanks for feedback, By chance do you know how long AT&T / Verizon Users had to wait for the update to get pushed to the Moto X 2013? I was looking online and could not find the difference in time as a reference...
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I want to say that's in the other thread. If not I definitely saw it in another thread. I know the 2013 X got it before the Nexus.
jdubya42 said:
I want to say that's in the other thread. If not I definitely saw it in another thread. I know the 2013 X got it before the Nexus.
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But in any case I shouldn't have to wait to next year say to get update, it will be pushed in somewhat a timely manner? I have seen a lot of threads where Carriers have delayed an update months to add bloatware, but I guess this is different been a close to stock phone. that is tightly linked with google philosophy.
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But in any case I shouldn't have to wait to next year say to get update, it will be pushed in somewhat a timely manner? I have seen a lot of threads where Carriers have delayed an update months to add bloatware, but I guess this is different been a close to stock phone. that is tightly linked with google philosophy.
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I definitely think the update will happen before the end of November. Hopefully shortly after the Nexus 5. I think you're right about the stock software not slowing the update down.
We're in uncharted territory here, there's no historical precedent to refer back to so literally no one knows anything.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/97143/
If you want to refer to last year check out above link
Vzw note 3 took forever to update to kk. I'm patiently waiting for lp. I hate vzw
bmwh0r3 said:
Vzw note 3 took forever to update to kk. I'm patiently waiting for lp. I hate vzw
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I despise Verizon for this and other reasons. What's annoying is not even a word. Like, at least just throw out there "Yep, we haven't gotten around to it yet. "
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Any word on when we will be getting this for us Tmobile US users. Anxiously waiting for copy/paste funcitonality. Overall i like the phone, but some very spotty reception especially with 3g data connection.
I think as far as anyone knows the update is due to start rolling out from the 8th March... but it'll be the carriers that can delay it by a week or two
Yeah, I'm waiting for the update before I decide if I'm going to keep this HD7 or not. I love the big screen and I love the OS. But this phone has some serious reception issues. My Moto Defy and even my Nokia Nuron get much better reception in both voice and data. I'm not use to so many dropped called.
I hear ya, but wouldn't that be a carrier update, not NoDo that addresses these reception issues we have. Just thinking logically here, this is a software update, not radio or kernel correct? MS can't possibly know all the issues present for each carrier or phone that needs to be addresses. Soryr coming form android so maybe my understanding is incorrect.
JamesDax said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the update before I decide if I'm going to keep this HD7 or not. I love the big screen and I love the OS. But this phone has some serious reception issues. My Moto Defy and even my Nokia Nuron get much better reception in both voice and data. I'm not use to so many dropped called.
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I'm waiting with you. So far, the same disappointment. I also noted that prices have fallen significantly and people are getting rid of them.
It seems that as soon MS will do something good is this system will fail. Even though HTC has released several new models, but with Android on board.
HTC Europe v1.30 ROM was released over in the Mozart forums and build number confirmed final NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
and this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11917333#post11917333
I'm sure it's just a matter of hours for HD7... the pre-update went quick and smoothly, as well so should this one too.
Cheers
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HTC Europe v1.30 ROM was released over in the Mozart forums and build number confirmed final NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
and this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11917333#post11917333
I'm sure it's just a matter of hours for HD7... the pre-update went quick and smoothly, as well so should this one too.
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Tmobile US sent you the pre-update?
Please confirm post above
Ya im confused too. I'm on Tmobile USA and didnt get a pre update yet.....
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Me neither
From what I've gathered, the pre-update wasn't/isn't 100% necessary.
Any good news?
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From what I've gathered, the pre-update wasn't/isn't 100% necessary.
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the content of the update is necessary but the update process itself isn't because the contents of that update will be included in the NoDo update. Given the fact that the 8th was only a rumored date, I doubt its coming out today, but hey surprises are welcome!
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the content of the update is necessary but the update process itself isn't because the contents of that update will be included in the NoDo update. Given the fact that the 8th was only a rumored date, I doubt its coming out today, but hey surprises are welcome!
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i've been checking all day. nothing.
scriller said:
i've been checking all day. nothing.
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same here... Ah well at least the fact that the update is out unofficially for dev/unlocked devices is a good sign.
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Tmobile US sent you the pre-update?
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not I'm starting hate them
It's my understanding that the pre-update is not necessary. What T-mobile has done was include the pre-update WITH the NoDo update; this was noted as something carriers were allowed to do.
When does this combo update come? Who the hell knows.
nexus14 said:
It's my understanding that the pre-update is not necessary. What T-mobile has done was include the pre-update WITH the NoDo update; this was noted as something carriers were allowed to do.
When does this combo update come? Who the hell knows.
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Microsoft themselves stated (while being scrutinized if carriers can block updates) that updates are bundled together by them (Microsoft) so that it won't have an effect on consumers who's carriers have blocked a previous update. The first update served two purposes: the first; was driver or firmware level upgrades that facilitate the upgrade process (which is why those small number of phones ended up bricking when the update went awry) the second was to see the worst case scenario that ended up happening to the Samsung phones. So to do list for initial update crossed out, time to release NoDo!
hope this helps
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Any word on when we will be getting this for us Tmobile US users. Anxiously waiting for copy/paste funcitonality. Overall i like the phone, but some very spotty reception especially with 3g data connection.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/trophy-and...=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral) not sure if this will help probably not
check this link also this should get everyone on the right foot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10176994#post10176994
Can anybody confirm whether the radio & firmware updated ROM that XDA user Ansar posted over in the development section made it into the NoDo update ROM? I've heard good things about that radio update (saves battery, better signal etc.) and it'd be nice to know that we would also be receiving that updated radio and firmware.
Since we'll never be getting the update on Verizon (unless any of you have any info) I would like to ask my Sprint/T-Mobile variant users how the new camera/etc. update is? Does it fix the stupid robotic crap that happens all the time in the middle of a call that makes the call sound absolutely horrendous? Must be nice for you guys to get updates so timely.
I twated with Verizon support and they said it was forthcoming. Pretty helpful, eh? They said watch the news channel on their website.
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SubliminalME said:
I twated with Verizon support and they said it was forthcoming. Pretty helpful, eh? They said watch the news channel on their website.
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I asked a rep at moto care and all they could tell me is an update will be available as soon as it's ready. I grabbed the sbf files and plan on trying to use the files from the other builds to make a hackneyed update.
I'm betting we get the update before 10/14. That's just a guess based on the phone's release date and the build date that's sitting on the current Verizon software (kernel was built on 8/7 and phone was released on 8/29).
I'd say we'll get an email this week saying the soak test is starting "soon" and we might start to see it roll out this weekend over the next 2 weeks as it's a fairly minor update.
I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
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Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code. last year though... verizon was the first to get kitkat. so who knows.
pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
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I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
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pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
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i completely agree.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
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the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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i completely agree.
the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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thanks for that deep info. it makes sense, fast isn't always better. I did read that 4.4.4 screwed up the OG Moto X, which was kind of a letdown. but I really feel that Android L is going to be complete, in a sense of no major bugs when it releases. I want that quickly. having a L preview definitely helps in squashing the bugs, which is why I am more confident in the L update being rolled out quickly not destroying the phone than all the other Android updates
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
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Venders get the code before the public does. Google announced this quite a while ago to speed up releases.
Apparently lollipop is starting to roll out this week for the first generation Moto X. Has anybody received this update yet?
You might want to try reading the other 3 threads about this instead of creating yet another one.
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You might want to try reading the other 3 threads about this instead of creating yet another one.
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All the other searches that I found about lollipop for the Moto X are roms. I didn't find any about official over the air update. You could have maybe sent me a link at least
In the news, the most recent 5.1 OTA update was for the Moto G Google Play Edition. I also an article that said they were rolling out 5.1 for the moto X, but it was misleading; it came from Realty Today, so I find it understandable if they are not in the forefront of android news.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/official-lollipop-5-1-moto-x-t3070730
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/official-lollipop-5-1-moto-x-t3070730
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Thank you sir
Stalls and BS like this are pushing back towards iPhone. Lollipop us already played out, and we don't even have it yet.
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Stalls and BS like this are pushing back towards iPhone. Lollipop us already played out, and we don't even have it yet.
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Get a nexus then. I'd much rather Motorola wait until lollipop is stable than have what apple did which was roll out horrible buggy 8.0, 8.1, 8.2 releases.
Basically the title! I know the Snapdragon variant for Oreo is out and we can flash via Odin, but as far as I know all those builds get you bloatware and boot animations. I'm wondering if Oreo build is out for the unlocked version, one where you get the pure Samsung firmware without any carrier third parties.
not yet
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not yet
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Sad. Thank you
You figure the unlocked phones would be the first ones to get it since there is no extra crap in the ROM, but it's not the case.
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You figure the unlocked phones would be the first ones to get it since there is no extra crap in the ROM, but it's not the case.
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It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
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It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
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Yea, does make sense.
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Basically the title! I know the Snapdragon variant for Oreo is out and we can flash via Odin, but as far as I know all those builds get you bloatware and boot animations. I'm wondering if Oreo build is out for the unlocked version, one where you get the pure Samsung firmware without any carrier third parties.
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Oreo for the Snapdragon is not out yet. Just the Exynos. The Oreo builds for the Snapdragon all come from leaked OTA zips. It has not been officially released so no Oreo ODIN files exist for the N8.
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Oreo for the Snapdragon is not out yet. Just the Exynos. The Oreo builds for the Snapdragon all come from leaked OTA zips. It has not been officially released so no Oreo ODIN files exist for the N8.
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Well I wouldn't say they don't exist at all. There's an xda thread on how to flash N8 to Oreo. Issue is the build is carrier build so you get bloatware and boot animations even on an unlocked phone. But if you meant the unlocked version, then yeah I don't think there's a build out yet.
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Well I wouldn't say they don't exist at all. There's an xda thread on how to flash N8 to Oreo. Issue is the build is carrier build so you get bloatware and boot animations even on an unlocked phone. But if you meant the unlocked version, then yeah I don't think there's a build out yet.
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I would say that. The thread for flashing Oreo involved using ODIN to flash a specific version of NOUGAT. Then, as I stated, you use a leaked OTA zip to update to Oreo.
So no, ODIN files for OREO are NOT available.
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You figure the unlocked phones would be the first ones to get it since there is no extra crap in the ROM, but it's not the case.
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It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
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Basically the title! I know the Snapdragon variant for Oreo is out and we can flash via Odin, but as far as I know all those builds get you bloatware and boot animations. I'm wondering if Oreo build is out for the unlocked version, one where you get the pure Samsung firmware without any carrier third parties.
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This is actually pretty upsetting. I went out of my way, avoiding all the carriers great buy one get one deals, to buy direct from Samsung thinking I was going to get priority updates. I really honestly would have bet money on getting Oreo before the carrier Note 8's did.
Naivety at its best I guess. Meanwhile I've been running Android P on my Pixel 2 XL for almost a month now. My Note 8 will never see Android P, at least not while I own it. Kinda sad.
I wouldn't expect Oreo until near when the Note 9 comes out (in the US)
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I wouldn't expect Oreo until near when the Note 9 comes out (in the US)
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No, that's months away, and Oreo is already rolling out for Note 8. Definitely won't be that long.
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Yeah, I agree. The sufferings of capitalism and putting money before costumers.
Anyhow, I don't get why S8 and S8+ are getting updates and Note 8 isn't. Like I haven't even heard of carriers actually releasing Note 8 OTA for Oreo yet. On the one hand, I want to be optimistic and think that's because they're implementing newer features in N8 version, or perhaps releasing Oreo 8.1. On the other, I think that's not true and they just wanna piss us off. N8 is the latest Note flagship, they gotta take care of it!
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Yeah, I agree. The sufferings of capitalism and putting money before costumers.
Anyhow, I don't get why S8 and S8+ are getting updates and Note 8 isn't. Like I haven't even heard of carriers actually releasing Note 8 OTA for Oreo yet. On the one hand, I want to be optimistic and think that's because they're implementing newer features in N8 version, or perhaps releasing Oreo 8.1. On the other, I think that's not true and they just wanna piss us off. N8 is the latest Note flagship, they gotta take care of it!
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If you took a moment to search the forums before commenting that Samsung is not taking care of note8 users it would be awesome. Just because it's a flagship does not mean it will get updates first.
Note8 series is not the best selling popular Samsung phone. S series is the main bread and butter for Samsung.
Past couple of years I have been following Samsung and it's update cycle, it's always S series first and then N series.
Just have patience and again learn to use the search function sometimes. This discussion has happened multiple times and answer always is if you need immediate updates get Apple/pixel phone. If you can live with decent delayed updates, go for s series.
If you care for good hardware and build but ok update speed (updates will come for sure) note series helps .
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If you took a moment to search the forums before commenting that Samsung is not taking care of note8 users it would be awesome. Just because it's a flagship does not mean it will get updates first.
Note8 series is not the best selling popular Samsung phone. S series is the main bread and butter for Samsung.
Past couple of years I have been following Samsung and it's update cycle, it's always S series first and then N series.
Just have patience and again learn to use the search function sometimes. This discussion has happened multiple times and answer always is if you need immediate updates get Apple/pixel phone. If you can live with decent delayed updates, go for s series.
If you care for good hardware and build but ok update speed (updates will come for sure) note series helps .
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I know you probably think you were being helpful, but it was peppered with such an absolute undertone of condescension I don't care to read anything you ever write again.
Maybe try reading it out loud before posting next time?
Namolas said:
I know you probably think you were being helpful, but it was peppered with such an absolute undertone of condescension I don't care to read anything you ever write again.
Maybe try reading it out loud before posting next time?
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I am just making a point that people need to search the forums before posting any comments. Also no one should feel entitled that since its a flagship or they paid big bucks, that the manufacturer should drop everything and cater to their needs. Samsung never promised faster updates than s series. It has always been like that.
None the less everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can read it or choose to ignore it and move on.
Got Oreo (OTA) to my unlocked Note 8 (SM-N950F) yesterday - so at least in Europe it is out and deliveries started.
I could be wrong but.. I think this at 1st was about a PHONE. I guess life is a slap in the face to some.. they express it to all..
I manually put it on my phone. Securty update is March 1st. Never had one problem. Runs great...
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I could be wrong but.. I think this at 1st was about a PHONE. I guess life is a slap in the face to some.. they express it to all..
I manually put it on my phone. Securty update is March 1st. Never had one problem. Runs great...
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I doubt you have the unlocked version one. Is it bloatware free and boot animations free?
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I am just making a point that people need to search the forums before posting any comments. Also no one should feel entitled that since its a flagship or they paid big bucks, that the manufacturer should drop everything and cater to their needs. Samsung never promised faster updates than s series. It has always been like that.
None the less everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can read it or choose to ignore it and move on.
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I know I know, some people will be ok even samsung releases the OREO next year. Because they never promised right... I wonder what they have promised. OMG...some people just....