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Gingerbread official update announcement (UK)

Out of curiosity, I just sent an enquiry to HTC UK about when they might be officially updating the device to 2.3.3 or a subsequent version. Here's the answer I got:
"Thank you very much for contacting the HTC technical support help desk. We are excited to announce that HTC Incredible will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Summer 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability. Please, for HTC INCREDIBLE S downloads and useful information about your device goes to: http://www.htc.com/uk/help_howtos.aspx?p_id=389"
I don't know about all of you, but this disappoints me - the Desire S is about to be released and yet that will be shipping with 2.3.3. And 'Summer'? That could easily be as late as September. This is all starting to sound very similar to the last time I was burned by HTC when I had a Hero and I was hanging around for 6 months waiting for a 2.x update from Android 1.5.
Anyway, I've told them I don't think this is good enough. I just hope someone finds a root exploit soon so there's a chance of me keeping vaguely up to date with new Android versions. Otherwise I'm going to be more and more tempted to sell this thing on later in the year and find something a bit more update-friendly.

to be honest, that just sound like the marketing department haven't been told anything, and that is a safe, wide target area, I wouldn't read too much into it.
I too suffered the Hero saga, don't want a repeat of that

l0st.prophet said:
to be honest, that just sound like the marketing department haven't been told anything, and that is a safe, wide target area, I wouldn't read too much into it.
I too suffered the Hero saga, don't want a repeat of that
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I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to release an update within the next month or so, rather than 'Summer'. It's the vagueness that concerns me more than anything else!
Also, am I right in thinking that all Incredible S models ship without any carrier/network specific branding or functions within the software? I'm hopeful that will cut down the time it takes to build and release the update.

I think the update comes in May or June the latest. You figure this phone is gone be in Canada on Virgin and Bell sometime early April and in the states on Verizon at the end of April. I figure once the phone is more widely available the update will come. If we are lucky maybe the official gingerbread rom for the Incredible S gets leaked in April.

According to Engadget Chinese (during the press conference of Desire S announcement in Taiwan), hTC representative suggested that Gingerbread for Incredible S would be available "in next 2 weeks". Considering European countries always get the OTA update earlier than Asia Pacific region (Desire, Desire HD, Desire Z, Aria, Legend...). If the news is true, UK should probably get the update in April.
And also they announced a partnership with Skype to provide customized version of Skype in 2.3 update to include video call ability, which is a great news for us. Just hope this Skype version works better than the one in Market...

doctorsax said:
Out of curiosity, I just sent an enquiry to HTC UK about when they might be officially updating the device to 2.3.3 or a subsequent version. Here's the answer I got:
"Thank you very much for contacting the HTC technical support help desk. We are excited to announce that HTC Incredible will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Summer 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability. Please, for HTC INCREDIBLE S downloads and useful information about your device goes to: http://www.htc.com/uk/help_howtos.aspx?p_id=389"
I don't know about all of you, but this disappoints me - the Desire S is about to be released and yet that will be shipping with 2.3.3. And 'Summer'? That could easily be as late as September. This is all starting to sound very similar to the last time I was burned by HTC when I had a Hero and I was hanging around for 6 months waiting for a 2.x update from Android 1.5.
Anyway, I've told them I don't think this is good enough. I just hope someone finds a root exploit soon so there's a chance of me keeping vaguely up to date with new Android versions. Otherwise I'm going to be more and more tempted to sell this thing on later in the year and find something a bit more update-friendly.
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I had similar bs answer from them..
my enquiry was that as I purchased the phone sim/ carrier free, and it is the carriers who will release the update..which carrier sim wld I need to be using to get it?
in fact the reply bypassed the question completely, saying just 'most carriers wld release the updat (really htc? so do i have to use a sim from a carrier that supports IS???)...and then went on to say 'what is more important is that when the OTA is released by your carrier, make sure you are using wifi to download..
All I wanted was straight answer like 'O2 will def be releasing the update, it doesnt come direct from us, and expect it in xyz'..
HTC havent even released it to carriers yet, so when they do that'l take another couple of months for them to tamper with it..HTC obviously have a finished product which works with sense ui as they've been parading it around on the Desire S..so must be ready for release before now.

chrisr27 said:
I had similar bs answer from them..
my enquiry was that as I purchased the phone sim/ carrier free, and it is the carriers who will release the update..which carrier sim wld I need to be using to get it?
in fact the reply bypassed the question completely, saying just 'most carriers wld release the updat (really htc? so do i have to use a sim from a carrier that supports IS???)...and then went on to say 'what is more important is that when the OTA is released by your carrier, make sure you are using wifi to download..
All I wanted was straight answer like 'O2 will def be releasing the update, it doesnt come direct from us, and expect it in xyz'..
HTC havent even released it to carriers yet, so when they do that'l take another couple of months for them to tamper with it..HTC obviously have a finished product which works with sense ui as they've been parading it around on the Desire S..so must be ready for release before now.
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More likely than not, the official update will get leaked anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about that if you're lurking here as you'll probably see it here first. I'm on 3 in the UK who definitely don't support this phone, so this is what I'll probably be relying on unless the update comes direct from HTC. I wouldn't rely on HTC support to know where it's coming from, they're clearly as much in the dark as we are but have to give an answer of some kind. They don't count on people actually being clued up already, sadly.
I agree that if the Desire S is getting it, we should be getting it soon, but I do understand if there's a short delay due to it having to be tested fully on differing hardware. It's just the vagueness and the timescale that gets to me.

if the official update does get leaked, could it be installed without root?
update def won't be from HTC direct, thats the one thing they are adamant about..your's is a perfect example of a carrier that therefore wouldnt be releasing the update..and as for the clowns at 3 dont get me started..I had a DHD from 3, contacted them about a ginbgerbread update and they just told me they were'nt doing it and that 2.1 was the latest version 3 had...erm, hello 3..i bought the phone from your shop with 2.2 already on it!
glad i got rid of my dhd tho...IS is tons better

Wheres my update?

my phone is hk version:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

Aww u mad?
Sweet thread bro

Australia doesn't have it either
You're definitely not alone
Sent from my Incredible S

Me too for an HK incredible S :crying:

markj338 said:
Australia doesn't have it either
You're definitely not alone
Sent from my Incredible S
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we not getting it till august. FIRETRUCK OPTUS (hehe firetruck stars with F and ends in UCK)

Crying? It's not like your phone is going to self-destruct if the ics update don't arrive
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Why are we complaining about optus when we are on custom roms?
Hopefully its not going to be bogged down by their firetrucking bloat/ 1 star apps like they did with the GB update which I unfortunately had to put up with for a day and a bit

markj338 said:
Why are we complaining about optus when we are on custom roms?
Hopefully its not going to be bogged down by their firetrucking bloat/ 1 star apps like they did with the GB update which I unfortunately had to put up with for a day and a bit
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it will be but they re assure that you can DISABLE them not remove them unless you root haha

naathaanb96 said:
it will be but they re assure that you can DISABLE them not remove them unless you root haha
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True about being able to disable them
Thats a good feature of ICS, and probably why the android devs decided to build it into ICS
But, laginess IMO creates the impression that the phone is crap
which creates the impression that the hardware is crap
and that HTC is crap
and android is crap
And thats why people buy iphones
Same with low end phones like the OG wildfire which didn't have a GPU
They are compared to the iphone (unfairly) and people class android in general as being crappy
Thats what happens in Melbourne/Australia anyway
/rant finished
And @OP don't cry, we are here for you, at least you don't have to put up with optus and their mediocre network and bloatware

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my phone is hk version:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Cry ***** Cry!
You just had to read some threads here and so on, but instead you like to cry, you didnt?
If you really need ICS flash a ICS Rom out there.
Sent from my Incredible S using xda app-developers app

Yup, no update in the land of Aus, makes me sad .
But im on a custom rom so im not complaining..
Does anyone know if its possible to downgrade your HBOOT to acquire S-OFF if you install the update that will be rolled out in August?
I know it is currently possible. But will it be possible with the new update?

greg2126 said:
Yup, no update in the land of Aus, makes me sad .
But im on a custom rom so im not complaining..
Does anyone know if its possible to downgrade your HBOOT to acquire S-OFF if you install the update that will be rolled out in August?
I know it is currently possible. But will it be possible with the new update?
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Not possible, it will most likely have the new hboot
The tacoroot exploit used now does not work with this new hboot
Better to s off now

I'm a little intrigued as to what's happening with the Virgin AU phones. While they are run on the Optus network and they have an Optus CID (OPTUS002) they are completely unbranded and have none of the Optus software installed and do not have a sim-lock either so theoretically they should get the same 'clean' update as the European WWE release. Virgin haven't said whether any updates will be pushed by themselves so I don't know if these phones will even get an update or whether they will get it at the same time as the branded Optus units. Due to the lack of customisation on Virgin phones, it's a bit ropey having to wait until late August to receive the update (if at all). One can only hope it's because they are ironing out even more bugs for the final release.

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I'm a little intrigued as to what's happening with the Virgin AU phones. While they are run on the Optus network and they have an Optus CID (OPTUS002) they are completely unbranded and have none of the Optus software installed and do not have a sim-lock either so theoretically they should get the same 'clean' update as the European WWE release. Virgin haven't said whether any updates will be pushed by themselves so I don't know if these phones will even get an update or whether they will get it at the same time as the branded Optus units. Due to the lack of customisation on Virgin phones, it's a bit ropey having to wait until late August to receive the update (if at all). One can only hope it's because they are ironing out even more bugs for the final release.
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Maybe contact them and ask, I haven't heard anything from them either

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Maybe contact them and ask...
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I did ask them a few months back when I was speaking to them regarding a billing issue. They said that any updates made for their phones are available from the manufacturers websites. The person I spoke to had no knowledge of the concept of OTA updates and said I should simply check the HTC website on a regular basis.

mr nick said:
I did ask them a few months back when I was speaking to them regarding a billing issue. They said that any updates made for their phones are available from the manufacturers websites. The person I spoke to had no knowledge of the concept of OTA updates and said I should simply check the HTC website on a regular basis.
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With most of the phone people, their aim is to get you off the phone as quick as they can, and redirect your questioning

[Q] Verizon Moto X - Android 5.0

Hi Guys,
I am pretty blind when it comes to these things so if its been answered, I am sorry - politely direct me to thread of origin.
Anyway, I am wondering with all the News of the Soak Test, generally after the pure edition update comes out, how long does it take for the Verizon update? Is the update regulated for the most part or does it take Verizon considerably more time after release for them to add their bloatware? Should I expect it a few weeks after pure edition OTA (RTM) is released or what?
Thanks - Any feedback is appreciated.
Regards - HMPace

Look at the thread that is about the update http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/5-0-update-motorola-t2925432

jdubya42 said:
Look at the thread that is about the update http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/5-0-update-motorola-t2925432
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Yes, but that does not cover the scope of Verizon or Carrier based updates - that only examines when the Pure Version will get the update and this is why this thread was created....

hasamoder said:
Yes, but that does not cover the scope of Verizon or Carrier based updates - that only examines when the Pure Version will get the update and this is why this thread was created....
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At the beginning of the thread they discussed when the update could possibly happen. Nobody knows when it will hit, but certainly before the end of November.

jdubya42 said:
At the beginning of the thread they discussed when the update could possibly happen. Nobody knows when it will hit, but certainly before the end of November.
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Sure, I read through that thread and I understand that General Consumption Update will happen soon (likely before end of November) but does this also apply to the Verizon model as well; Lets say in a month time the update get pushed out to all T-Mobile Pure Edition Moto X's will Verizon users have to wait longer? Do Verizon and AT&T Phones get the update at the same time? (as they are different models)...

hasamoder said:
Sure, I read through that thread and I understand that General Consumption Update will happen soon (likely before end of November) but does this also apply to the Verizon model as well; Lets say in a month time the update get pushed out to all T-Mobile Pure Edition Moto X's will Verizon users have to wait longer? Do Verizon and AT&T Phones get the update at the same time? (as they are different models)...
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No, the carriers won't get updates at the same time. But, nobody can really pinpoint anything.

jdubya42 said:
No, the carriers won't get updates at the same time. But, nobody can really pinpoint anything.
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Fair Enough - thanks for feedback, By chance do you know how long AT&T / Verizon Users had to wait for the update to get pushed to the Moto X 2013? I was looking online and could not find the difference in time as a reference...

hasamoder said:
Fair Enough - thanks for feedback, By chance do you know how long AT&T / Verizon Users had to wait for the update to get pushed to the Moto X 2013? I was looking online and could not find the difference in time as a reference...
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I want to say that's in the other thread. If not I definitely saw it in another thread. I know the 2013 X got it before the Nexus.

jdubya42 said:
I want to say that's in the other thread. If not I definitely saw it in another thread. I know the 2013 X got it before the Nexus.
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But in any case I shouldn't have to wait to next year say to get update, it will be pushed in somewhat a timely manner? I have seen a lot of threads where Carriers have delayed an update months to add bloatware, but I guess this is different been a close to stock phone. that is tightly linked with google philosophy.

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But in any case I shouldn't have to wait to next year say to get update, it will be pushed in somewhat a timely manner? I have seen a lot of threads where Carriers have delayed an update months to add bloatware, but I guess this is different been a close to stock phone. that is tightly linked with google philosophy.
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I definitely think the update will happen before the end of November. Hopefully shortly after the Nexus 5. I think you're right about the stock software not slowing the update down.

We're in uncharted territory here, there's no historical precedent to refer back to so literally no one knows anything.

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/97143/
If you want to refer to last year check out above link

Vzw note 3 took forever to update to kk. I'm patiently waiting for lp. I hate vzw

bmwh0r3 said:
Vzw note 3 took forever to update to kk. I'm patiently waiting for lp. I hate vzw
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I despise Verizon for this and other reasons. What's annoying is not even a word. Like, at least just throw out there "Yep, we haven't gotten around to it yet. "

AT&T Pixel 4XL December update

Ok 2 questions around the AT&T Pixel 4 December update
1. Has anyone received the OTA yet?
2. Since the factory image for December is up on Google and labeled specific to AT&T, does this mean Google baked it entirely and AT&T will not touch it? Did AT&T send any carrier specific mods for Google to bake in the monthly patch? I know some carriers like to add their own pieces to updates but I was wondering why Google has an image labeled AT&T?

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Ok 2 questions around the AT&T Pixel 4 December update
1. Has anyone received the OTA yet?
2. Since the factory image for December is up on Google and labeled specific to AT&T, does this mean Google baked it entirely and AT&T will not touch it? Did AT&T send any carrier specific mods for Google to bake in the monthly patch? I know some carriers like to add their own pieces to updates but I was wondering why Google has an image labeled AT&T?
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1. I haven't received it. Side loading it now.
2. It's a mistake on the downloads page. The one labeled AT&T only is meant for every other carrier except T-Mobile & Fi (version *.11), and Japan & Taiwan (version *.016.A1).
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/21769134?hl=en/

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1. I haven't received it. Side loading it now.
2. It's a mistake on the downloads page. The one labeled AT&T only is meant for every other carrier except T-Mobile & Fi (version *.11), and Japan & Taiwan (version *.016.A1).
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/21769134?hl=en/
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How does one side load? And does it factory reset the device?

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How does one side load? And does it factory reset the device?
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I'm assuming your phone is completely stock and its bootloader is locked?
If that's the case just sideload the OTA image for your phone using the stock recovery. Follow the instructions here:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota?hl=en
This process will not reset your device. It's just a manual way of updating your phone instead of waiting for Google to send it to you.

Curious as to who releases the update? Carriers or Google direct?

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Curious as to who releases the update? Carriers or Google direct?
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Images are developed and provided by Google monthly. Did you look at the URL? See the very straight forward instructions there. Those monthly images are also referred to as "rescue OTA's". Applying OTA images is really an essential skill for those with locked bootloaders. First step is to "install" the latest adb/fastboot binaries. This is essentially extracting a zip file into a folder, and reading the instructions right there on the same web page. I challenge you! You can do it. This is a walk in the park for you who presumably was partially dis-assembling HTC phones and jumping solder points to get S-On and root. If you need some pointers just PM me. I'm working a lot of hours but can help you at night.

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Images are developed and provided by Google monthly. Did you look at the URL? See the very straight forward instructions there. Those monthly images are also referred to as "rescue OTA's". Applying OTA images is really an essential skill for those with locked bootloaders. First step is to "install" the latest adb/fastboot binaries. This is essentially extracting a zip file into a folder, and reading the instructions right there on the same web page. I challenge you! You can do it. This is a walk in the park for you who presumably was partially dis-assembling HTC phones and jumping solder points to get S-On and root. If you need some pointers just PM me. I'm working a lot of hours but can help you at night.
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Lol indeed and almost 15 years ago! Oh I am sure I can bro but not sure I want to after reading some of the issues with flashing the ota and uncertainty of which img to use. This post I was actually wondering who pushes the actual ota, Google or the carriers? If i had an unlocked bootloader I may actually root but asides kernal and minor mods, I'm not sure root is beneficial for me now. Used to oc the processor and push the devices but there's plenty under the hood nowadays lol.

I feel like I'm back on my Samsung! Updates that don't deliver. Asides from vanilla Android, another was prompt patches/updates coming from the horse itself is why I switched to the pixel. Total disappointment

Mine is updating right now, just got the update tonight. I'll follow up after it installs

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I feel like I'm back on my Samsung! Updates that don't deliver. Asides from vanilla Android, another was prompt patches/updates coming from the horse itself is why I switched to the pixel. Total disappointment
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Its always going to be slower coming from a carrier than it is from google.... So I really wouldn't expect updates any sooner than mid month of the release. Honestly, this is the fastest AT&T has EVER updated a device. I just got mine tonight (had to manually check for a system update)

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Its always going to be slower coming from a carrier than it is from google.... So I really wouldn't expect updates any sooner than mid month of the release. Honestly, this is the fastest AT&T has EVER updated a device. I just got mine tonight (had to manually check for a system update)
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I actually got November update they day of release last month.

rodcpierce said:
Its always going to be slower coming from a carrier than it is from google.... So I really wouldn't expect updates any sooner than mid month of the release. Honestly, this is the fastest AT&T has EVER updated a device. I just got mine tonight (had to manually check for a system update)
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I am on T-Mobile and bought an unlocked Pixel 4XL. They are dropping the ball with these updates. This is 2 months in a row for me. I don't mind them holding off if they fear it is going to break the devices but I shouldn't have to sideload an OTA every month when there are other devices, a few being Samsung devices, with the December security patch.

Great to join the club!!

Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!

MethudMann said:
Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!
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Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?

ethical_haquer said:
Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?
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Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT

I'll monitor more closely so let me know if you need any other info

MethudMann said:
Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT
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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.

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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.
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Thanks for the research and yes I do have questions if its not too much of an issue:
1.) Carrier bloat is like the usual and can just be deleted anyways correct?
2.) In what scenarios (in case everything was working fine with OTA updates) would the phone have downloaded a version without bloat?
3.) Would updating to the non-bloated version cause any issues since the phone is still carrier locked?
4.) Lastly, for the firmware, would I need to download multiple updates until that point or just straight to the firmware?
If not, I can research the answers as I have been on it on and off for a month with research but other than that, you're a god send.
By the way, if #1 is true, I'll just take the bloatware no doubt just to be as safe as possible.

Thanks again for all the help @ethical_haquer
Been busy researching in the Samsung Note 8 ATT threads and I was able to find the answer to number 4 in that using Full ODIN files is a complete flash and different than just an update which requires the previous updates.
The answer to number 3 from what I have seen no. The only thing is that certain features may NOT work such as VoLTE; pretty much you already answered 3 and I was literally too dumb to see that until I started writing this message. *face palm
Question 2 is pretty much inconsequential so don't worry answering that. Its was just curiosity. But for anyone who does see this possibly, my speculation is that NO, the carrier version would never download the non-carrier version. The non-branded update is for those unlocked phones that receive over-the-air (OTA) updates that were not associated with any carrier, in other words buying a phone directly from samsung's website.
For 1, I am guessing it is "Yes" since I was able to do that in the past with all my other phones. But either way it is not a make it or break it so it doesn't matter.
I have been able to find some full ODIN files for the updates I was looking for, so will be attempting my first flash soon. Will be posting all my findings to the thread I was reading just to potentially help anyone else (though rare since this device is getting real old) who has the same questions I had and I can get them up to speed without having to search everything

Just finished flashing the ATT Note 8 to and the Answer to Number 1 is that NO, you cannot Uninstall the bloatware
Again, will post all these findings to the proper thread in after completed

Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.

ethical_haquer said:
Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.
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You're all good!
I may but I actually have to find one more update I am looking for (Full ODIN FILES). My daily driver note 8 is on N950USQS7DTE5 and it is a T-Mobile Version (though it bein g TMO is inconsequential at the moment. Just thought I might mention it).
That is the update I would like for ATT just so that I know there wont be any differences (or less differences) between my daily driver and this.This is me being picky at this point but isn't the point of life getting what you want? I found one update above that but different bootloader. So for whatever reason may happen, no going back.
What I currently flashed to was N950USQS3BRA8 so it's still on Android 7.1.1 but I did this just to test to the process (my first flashing). Now I am ready.
So I will look for that then flash it and update as usual

Just found, or couldnt find, that ATT has the same update so will just go with what I have. Close as I can get