Screen Off - OK Google - Battery Killer? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone turned on the Screen off "OK Google" ? Does it seem to kill the battery faster then when its off?

The screen off "OK Google" doesn't appear to be implemented yet.
Odd.
From https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6031948?hl=en:
Make sure you have the latest version of the Google app. (To get the latest version, go to the Google app page on the Play Store and touch Update).
Open the Google app .
Touch Menu Menu > Settings > Voice.
Touch “Ok Google” detection.
Check the boxes next to "From Google app" and "Always-on."
Follow the instructions to teach Google what your voice sounds like.
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There is no "Always-on" option displayed in my settings, just "From Google Search app", "From any screen" and "When locked".
Is anyone else seeing this? Are we waiting for them to roll it out on an account by account basis, or are we waiting for a Google Search app update?

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2848834/android-50-lollipop-features.htmlThere is another way though "settings" and "language and input". Let me see if I can find it. Not sure. This may take you to the same place. Head into your system settings, tap "Language & input" and then "Voice input," then tap the gear icon next to "Enhanced Google services" and look for a line labeled "'Ok Google' Detection."
Tap it, then tap the line labeled "Always on"*
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We shall see if this kills the battery

Motorola put the same exact contextual processor inside the phone, so it should drain battery in the same manner as the Moto X.

rman18 said:
Has anyone turned on the Screen off "OK Google" ? Does it seem to kill the battery faster then when its off?
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This is from Ars Technica review :
Like the Moto X before it, the Nexus 6 has an always-on voice feature that works even when the screen is off. The Nexus 6 has a dedicated digital signal processor (DSP) that handles the "OK Google" hotword recognition, which allows the main processor to save power while the phone is off
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[Q] Always Listening Google Now or S Voice a la Moto X?

Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!
brazilian812 said:
Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!
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Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
surf1 said:
Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
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Dang. There might be a setting for S Voice to turn on Hotword Detection maybe?
Even if only S Voice works, there are apps to replace it with Google Now which would be fine by me!
From what I can tell from messing around with the S5, the "OK Google" hotword only works when you have the Google search bar on your homescreen. You take that bar off and it stops working. Other than that, I haven't been able to find any setting to enable it while the screen is off or without the google bar, unfortunately.
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
miketunes said:
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
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Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
brazilian812 said:
Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
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Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
miketunes said:
Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
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Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
gjlamb said:
Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
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I have the AT&T varianT and no luck unless I'm inside the s voice app (having double clicked the get in)

[Q] Active Listening

Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
Do not think of the device as Moto X think of the device as nexus...aka PURE AND COMPLETE stock android. So anything you love about the MOto X odd of you finding it on N6 (unless n6) has it own version, you wont see it.
Hope that answer your question
Aw that's a bummer. There are some Moto apps on the playstore. Hopefully they are usable on the Nexus 6.
msal said:
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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Other than the ability to set a custom listing phrase, what are the "advanced listening features"?
charesa39 said:
http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
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In regards to the texting thing. I hope they fix it to use GV number with hangouts. With the nexus 5 if I use voice commands to send a text it uses my carrier number. Same with virtually every other app that sends stuff auto via text messages,
ECrispy said:
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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This is already available with the Google Launcher on my S4 (so long as the phone is charging). Time will tell if this is available on the Nexus 6 from idle when it's not charging.

"OK Google" working again from any screen

It's working again from any screen. Update under Playstore, then go check under "Settings->Lock Screen & Security->Secure Lock Settings->Smart Lock->Trusted Voice".
I do not seem to have 'Secure Lock Settings' under there. Hmmmmm
blulite said:
It's working again from any screen. Update under Playstore, then go check under "Settings->Lock Screen & Security->Secure Lock Settings->Smart Lock->Trusted Voice".
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Thank you! I'm happy this is available now!
c0011j said:
I do not seem to have 'Secure Lock Settings' under there. Hmmmmm
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c0011j said:
I do not seem to have 'Secure Lock Settings' under there. Hmmmmm
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You can accomplish the same thing using the "Google Settings" app (gray cog icon) and selecting Search&Now -> Voice -> "OK Google detection"
Turn on "From any screen" at that point, and follow the rest of the prompts.
Trusted voice is a superset of the "OK Google" detection, and is used to unlock your phone using your voice.
afh3 said:
You can accomplish the same thing using the "Google Settings" app (gray cog icon) and selecting Search&Now -> Voice -> "OK Google detection"
Turn on "From any screen" at that point, and follow the rest of the prompts.
Trusted voice is a superset of the "OK Google" detection, and is used to unlock your phone using your voice.
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works thanks and been wanting that

Voice command "Ok Google" not working from home screen

Hi,
As far as I know, and according to the official guide, I should be able to launch Google Now just saying "Ok Google":
You can see a menu of simple tasks on your watch, and anything in this list can also be said aloud. Just say “Ok Google” or swipe the home screen to the left until you see the Speak now option and say your command or question.
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However, I can't launch Google Now with my voice. Command does work pretty well on my cellphone, but not in the phone. I tried waking up the watch, pressing the side button, but nothing works. I can only swipe to the left until I see the "speak now" option. I got my watch from Amazon as "refurbished", so I'm afraid something is wrong with it.
Thanks
xx
Fixed the problem! In my case, it was a language related issue. My phone is set to English (US), although "Google voice typing" is set to Spanish. I have to pronounce "ok Google" with a US accent, while on my phone I can use "Spanish" accent. I just got used to it and talk to my phone with a different accent, but I read there's a Xposed module that lets you change language for Wear. Hope this helps.
xx

disable OK google listening

Ok I was able disable the OK google and it only listen when I press the mic icon. Now no matter what I do in the google app settings it's always listening. My only current option is to disable microphone permissions which isn't what I want since I can't press the mic icon and speak.
I had it setup on the note8 with android 9 to only listen when the mic icon is pressed. Got the note 9 did the same settings and it still responds when I say OK or hey google.
Currently have the microphone permissions disabled since my phone does NOT need to listen all the time. Is there a setting I am missing?
I had to remove the Google search widget to stop it from always listening. It is stupid that they removed the option to simply turn it off.
ChodaBoyUSA said:
I had to remove the Google search widget to stop it from always listening. It is stupid that they removed the option to simply turn it off.
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Exactly. Disable the "Google" app improve the memory and battery usage, imo
Interesting, I disabled the Google app for about 30 minutes and could not use voice with chrome so turned it back on. The mic permissions are enabled but OK google is now disabled yet I can push the mic icon and use voice for searching again.
So its exactly how I want it but a very strange way to get there. I have no clue how this worked but it did.
Well after a restart and about 20 minutes it went back to listening.
That's odd - it's definitely off on mine, but I can't find where I deactivated it! I use Nova Launcher, and there is an option in the Settings under 'Gestures and Inputs' to disable 'OK Google hotword' - maybe that's how I did it? But 'OK Google' doesn't work anywhere on my Note 9 (did this to save battery and because I have a Google Home & Mini).
EDIT: And I do have the Google App installed.
Not sure what's going on. Google runs me around when I tired to ask them. I know exactly where the setting is and its disabled but still listens for the "OK google "
Personally I would love someone with influence to get attention to this but it seems a little hit or miss on setups so not sure. I have the mic disabled.
I did do a really stupid test if my device was listening and used let's say red flag words to see if anyone was listening. Ironically the words I used are related to an event happening in my city which was horrible timing on my part but semi proved to me no one heard it.
macgyver40 said:
Not sure what's going on. Google runs me around when I tired to ask them. I know exactly where the setting is and its disabled but still listens for the "OK google "
Personally I would love someone with influence to get attention to this but it seems a little hit or miss on setups so not sure. I have the mic disabled.
I did do a really stupid test if my device was listening and used let's say red flag words to see if anyone was listening. Ironically the words I used are related to an event happening in my city which was horrible timing on my part but semi proved to me no one heard it.
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Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
william-johnson said:
Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
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Yes that works. The only thing I don't want is it to disable voice in chrome app which this does.
The settings to disable OK Google are there but don't function and google themselves either don't understand what I am saying or don't want to admit the setting doesn't function as it should.
Kinsman-UK said:
That's odd - it's definitely off on mine, but I can't find where I deactivated it! I use Nova Launcher, and there is an option in the Settings under 'Gestures and Inputs' to disable 'OK Google hotword' - maybe that's how I did it? But 'OK Google' doesn't work anywhere on my Note 9 (did this to save battery and because I have a Google Home & Mini).
EDIT: And I do have the Google App installed.
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macgyver40 said:
Ok I was able disable the OK google and it only listen when I press the mic icon. Now no matter what I do in the google app settings it's always listening. My only current option is to disable microphone permissions which isn't what I want since I can't press the mic icon and speak.
I had it setup on the note8 with android 9 to only listen when the mic icon is pressed. Got the note 9 did the same settings and it still responds when I say OK or hey google.
Currently have the microphone permissions disabled since my phone does NOT need to listen all the time. Is there a setting I am missing?
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william-johnson said:
Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
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Kinsman-UK said:
That's odd - it's definitely off on mine, but I can't find where I deactivated it! I use Nova Launcher, and there is an option in the Settings under 'Gestures and Inputs' to disable 'OK Google hotword' - maybe that's how I did it? But 'OK Google' doesn't work anywhere on my Note 9 (did this to save battery and because I have a Google Home & Mini).
EDIT: And I do have the Google App installed.
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macgyver40 said:
Ok I was able disable the OK google and it only listen when I press the mic icon. Now no matter what I do in the google app settings it's always listening. My only current option is to disable microphone permissions which isn't what I want since I can't press the mic icon and speak.
I had it setup on the note8 with android 9 to only listen when the mic icon is pressed. Got the note 9 did the same settings and it still responds when I say OK or hey google.
Currently have the microphone permissions disabled since my phone does NOT need to listen all the time. Is there a setting I am missing?
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william-johnson said:
Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
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It's not easy to find the option to turn off the Google assistant, but it's there.
Settings > apps > (three dots menu) default apps > device assistance app
You'll want to change "device assistance app" to "none" and then "voice input" to "Google". The you should be all set.
To go a step further, you can disable the Google assistant from running at all on your device.
Google app > "more" (lower right hand corner) > settings > Google assistant > assistant
Then, at the bottom you should see "assistant devices" with "phone" listed. Select phone and then toggle Google assistant off.
This should do the trick.
Bober_is_a_troll said:
It's not easy to find the option to turn off the Google assistant, but it's there.
Settings > apps > (three dots menu) default apps > device assistance app
You'll want to change "device assistance app" to "none" and then "voice input" to "Google". The you should be all set.
To go a step further, you can disable the Google assistant from running at all on your device.
Google app > "more" (lower right hand corner) > settings > Google assistant > assistant
Then, at the bottom you should see "assistant devices" with "phone" listed. Select phone and then toggle Google assistant off.
This should do the trick.
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I was able to do the first part of device assistant app to none. The voice input option doesn't allow me to pick just google option.
Either way this has solved my issue and is now working they I want it to. Going to try a restart and see if it persists unlike my previous attempt.
Thanks again for finding this.
I like having the search widget and be able to type or voice input my search if I don't know how to spell something. With all the news of companies admitting they listen and record voice stuff having my device always listening is very unsettling. I guess it's a little paranoid but I live in a bad part of my city and I really don't want to be red flag because I walked by a drug deal which happens all to often.
That's strange, because that exactly what it should do when you disable Voice Match, since it is said that's it's actually the "anywhere OK Google listening".
Try deleting your voice imprint on the same setting page too maybe.
I wonder why is working fine on my phone and not on others.
Nastrahl said:
That's strange, because that exactly what it should do when you disable Voice Match, since it is said that's it's actually the "anywhere OK Google listening".
Try deleting your voice imprint on the same setting page too maybe.
I wonder why is working fine on my phone and not on others.
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I have no saved voice imprint saved. At least someone was able to find a work around that was a to do what I wanted.

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