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Hi Guys,
I've been wondering for a few days, Sony is basically making the "Waterproof" function of this phone as the main selling point.
I'm just curious as to how the insurance and warranty is going to be affected by the water proof.
As I know most insurances claim its water damage and say its not covered.
Can they still do this with the Xperia, as its water proof?
Are warranties etc going to change incorporating the water-proof(ness).
Thanks.
It's not water-proof, it's water-resistant.
The water seals inside the phone will still void your warranty if voided, its just like a water proof camera, if YOU haven't secured your waterproof flaps/seals properly and then submerge it, then it is user error.
Wait a minute, so why the hell do they claim "Water-PROOF" whens it not.
So basically, you couldn't just wash it off like the advert.
Define RESISTANT compared to PROOF....?
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching....
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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bucho2004 said:
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching.... PPPOOORRRNNN
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
Wilks3y said:
Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Erm... There are flaps on the phone covering every port and I'm sure the Xperia Z is advertised as water resistant. Not waterproof. It can still witstand being submerged underwater for up to 30mins and 100m though.
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
anjath said:
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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bkbatboy said:
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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So whats the use in the flaps?
Why not just remove the flaps and then theres no chance of you messing up?
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
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Maths obliterates your brain !!
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
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IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
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IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
go ahead and get it. this is the most rugged high end phone to date and probably for the entire year 2013. all the best.
Wilks3y said:
What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
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The flaps don't really disturb, To charge the phone you can use the dock, and for listening to music (if you do that a lot) you can go with bluetooth earphones.
And I've submerged my phone also in a galss of water and also took it into the shower, you should just make sure that you dry your phone before openening the flaps again, then avaerything should be fine
Great, Xperia looks like my upgrade then. May see some of you around here in a few months time when I'll be an owner
Have fun all, thanks very much for your responses.
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
it is "splash proof" meaning it shouldn't get hurt from occasionally getting a little water on it from sources like walking in a light rain, or washing your hands without submerging it.
It is most defiantly not water proof, do not submerge it under water, it will die.
Yes what Milimbar said. Don't bath, or swim with it.
Some users report the camera fogging up after getting wet.
creasqui said:
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
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and google didn't show you the other threads on XDA covering this already?
there was a post some time ago from a guy that left it on accidentally in the shower and it had no damage but i woudlnt recommend that
Just a quick selection:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496940
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458450
I accidentally submerged mine while cleaning the fish tank pump. I nearly pooped when I did it but quickly shook off the water and it came out unharmed. Admittedly, I didnt go trying to take pictures afterward but the next day, the camera seemed fine too. That was two months ago and haven't had an issed or another serious accident.
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From the OP's link:
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
* IP55 rating means that device is protected against penetration of dust in quantity to interfere satisfactory operation and harmful ingress of water under test condition of spraying the enclosure from any direction with a stream of water from a standard 6.3mm diameter test nozzle for up to 3 minutes. According to accredited test results by Korea Labouratory Accreditation Scheme, individual results may vary.
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This is pretty specific and precise it seems to me. Not sure what the OP is unclear about.
From the IP55 rating, no, it is not suitable for full immersion for any length of time, nor is it protected at any depth.
Rather -- again just from the description above -- you can hit it with a stream of water for minutes at a time, from all different angles, and it will be fine.
IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
dwallersv said:
IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
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Cant explain it any clearer than that.
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So I'm HUNTING for a waterproof case for this phone with summer coming...and I can't find any name brand ones...otter box is taking FOREVER to release theirs! I know the phone is itself supposed to be waterproof, but the ear phone hole doesn't seem protected. Looking in there I see metal prongs for the ear plug connectors. Is there supposed to be a cover for it?
I believe the headphone port is self sealing, otherwise the phone wouldn't have the ip67 certification.
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The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
Moved to Q/A.
Audio is just metal touching metal, no need for it to be covered. It is however one reason you can't take this phone in salt water. Fresh water only. I take mine to the beach all the time, nice not to worry about getting splashed or rained on, but definitely want to rinse it with fresh water if it gets any salt water on it at all.
byte9 said:
The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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Remember IP67 certified as far as liquids go is 15cm to 1m (roughly 3ft) and is considered Water Resistant for short periods of time, in order to be Waterproof it must meet IP68 standards which is extended exposure to liquids.
Got it! Thanks all! i wanted to test it in the pool this weekend, but got nervous lol!
itsnowornever said:
Got it! Thanks all! i wanted to test it in the pool this weekend, but got nervous lol!
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i would caution against "Pool" water in any case as the chlorine content will damage the oleophobic coating on the glass (thisis the coating that helps resist fingerprints and smudges)
EW! So it's good for pond water only? LMAO! Otterbox needs to hurry up and come out with the darn waterproof case!\
So back on topic...there is a case called Griffin Defender series that claims to have waterproofing. I had a griffin on my old s3 and dropped in water plenty of times and it kept water out. Hope I could help. Check them out.
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They're are cases now from lifeproof and otterbox... one of them isn't released yet, but I can't remember which one.
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The lifeproof one is out, the otterbox is not out yet.
Waterproof case? I put mine into a sink full of water 15 minutes after buying it out right. That satisfied me and I just bought a regular case
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Not Waterproof
byte9 said:
The headphone port is indeed self sealing. Source A)IP67 cert B)YouTube videos C)I submerged my own in a glass bowl filled with water and it lived just fine unscathed to allow me to author this post.
Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
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i just bought mine and i took it for a test in the pool and took pics and video and i opened to see if water got inside and yes some drops where inside but not in the important area so i dry it close it and it was good until later i try to see the pics and the screen went wild and then the horror screen went from white to black and that was it i try to dry it with hairdryer nothing i came back to live for a sec only to do the same then the rice trick nothing now is all black i can hear the phone respond but no image and im in despair since att told me warranty is void cuz the water indicator is red so im f up. Can someone help me out with some miraculous fix for this problem please i just bought it and im beyond broke. I got isopropyl alcohol if i dunk it without the battery of course will the acohol damage the amoled lcd or the camera or anything? if i dry it well will it come back to life or will the lcd digiticer permanetly dead ? HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE :crying::crying:
Let's see. You knew you could not afford another phone. Yet, you wanted to test it by going swimming?
I don't know about the alcohol, but maybe the phone will come around once it's fully dry.
But regardless, I hope you learned your lesson here. Although these phones and some cases are supposed to be resistant, that doesn't mean we should be taking our phones in showers or going swimming with them around here. Every phone is not built the same, or how it should be, and someone's phone eventually was going to fail.
Jsong69 said:
HELP ME OUT HERE PLEASE :crying::crying:
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A)IP67 cert = Dust proof / Water Resistant in 3ft of water for up to 30min. I'm guessing you went deeper than 3ft. They advertise splashes and accidental sink/toilet drops. It's not an active phone or underwater camera and nobody said or advertised it as such.
I don't wish your phone to be dead. The best thing you can do is NOT power it on and let it sit in rice for 48hrs. Don't be impatient, let it sit. You've continued to power it on shortly after the immersion so I would manage your expectations, It may be done.
Good Luck.
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 has an IP rating like the Sony Z3?
On the promo video they show it in a tank, Motorola's site shows water resistance as well. I would assume that if it can be dropped in a tank, the water resistance is at least on par with the Sony Z2?
http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-6-water-resistant
ericdmiller said:
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 has an IP rating like the Sony Z3?
On the promo video they show it in a tank, Motorola's site shows water resistance as well. I would assume that if it can be dropped in a tank, the water resistance is at least on par with the Sony Z2?
http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-6-water-resistant
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Its supposedly the same as the Moto X. Water resistance through a nano coating. Not meant to be submerged, but can survive the occasional puddle/toilet plunge...
qwerty12601 said:
Its supposedly the same as the Moto X. Water resistance through a nano coating. Not meant to be submerged, but can survive the occasional puddle/toilet plunge...
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That's what I assumed as well, but did you happen to see the image on the link I provided? They show it in a tank and also show someone swimming with it.
It's the same water resistant coating found on the current Moto X. It'll protect the phone from splashes, and perhaps a quick accidental dip into the tub, but don't expect to swim with it like a Z2 or Z3.
Barely realized I got ninja'd
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ericdmiller said:
That's what I assumed as well, but did you happen to see the image on the link I provided? They show it in a tank and also show someone swimming with it.
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I saw it. Not saying it wouldn't survive that. But I'm sure they'll have a more detailed explanation as to how long it can
ericdmiller said:
Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 has an IP rating like the Sony Z3?
On the promo video they show it in a tank, Motorola's site shows water resistance as well. I would assume that if it can be dropped in a tank, the water resistance is at least on par with the Sony Z2?
http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-6-water-resistant
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If you look at their graphic of the phone in the fishtank, at the top of the "forehead" of the phone, it says SAMSUNG.
What forum am I in again?
Do you guys think it will do fine in rain?
As someone who happens to play Ingress, I prefer not having to sandwich-bag my phone every time there is a drizzle.
Dr Faustus said:
Do you guys think it will do fine in rain?
As someone who happens to play Ingress, I prefer not having to sandwich-bag my phone every time there is a drizzle.
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Yes rain s/b fine, there are You Tubes somewhere that show a guy dunking his Moto X in a glass and it survives.
The Nexus 6, like previous Motorola phones, will be water resistant. This means that it can survive (small) spills and it will probably be safe to use out in (light) rain. I wouldn't try submerging this phone or using it in the shower though. Lol
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Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 has an IP rating like the Sony Z3?
On the promo video they show it in a tank, Motorola's site shows water resistance as well. I would assume that if it can be dropped in a tank, the water resistance is at least on par with the Sony Z2?
http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-6-water-resistant
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don't think so !
Just as an update, the other night i tried the customer service chat with Motorola to see if they could elaborate on the "Water Resistant - Yes" spec.... if they had an idea what the resistance rating was. Was told that at this time, they have no information as to what the resistance rating is, and to check the site periodically for any updates. Doesn't really help much... but figured i'd mention it.
Anyone know of a waterproof case for the N6? Something similar to a lifeproof case, perhaps? I know its water resistant, but looking for waterproof.
I believe the Nexus 6 is IP67 rated - 1 meter submersion in water for 30 minutes with no damaging ingress of water.
jerntserms said:
I believe the Nexus 6 is IP67 rated - 1 meter submersion in water for 30 minutes with no damaging ingress of water.
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Source? I don't think thats true.
mdandashly said:
Source? I don't think thats true.
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It's not it's only splash resistant like the moto x due to the nano coating
So this isn't scientific or from the manufacturer, but some guys did an IP67 test and the Moto X passed. The moto website only says "water resistant" which is horribly ambiguous. The Nexus 6 has the same water resistant tech.
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I'm an electronics engineer, and a few of our products are "IP67" rated. A lot of times the manufacturer will not state or guarantee the IP67 rating because some devices will inevitably get water damage and then customers get pissed because they think waterproof means water invincible.
I would bet the Nexus 6 will pass the IP67 test every time - provided the device is new and the seals aren't damaged and you haven't dropped it too much.
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So this isn't scientific or from the manufacturer, but some guys did an IP67 test and the Moto X passed. The moto website only says "water resistant" which is horribly ambiguous. The Nexus 6 has the same water resistant tech.
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I'm an electronics engineer, and a few of our products are "IP67" rated. A lot of times the manufacturer will not state or guarantee the IP67 rating because some devices will inevitably get water damage and then customers get pissed because they think waterproof means water invincible.
I would bet the Nexus 6 will pass the IP67 test every time - provided the device is new and the seals aren't damaged and you haven't dropped it too much.
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Interesting. I watched a Motox review that showed the opposite--phone stopped working after a couple minutes in a kitchen sink.
My theory could very well be wrong. Search "submersion test" at androidpit.com.
Everyone should tweet lifeproof to let them know there is a demand. The nuud would be awesome for this device.
One of the YouTube videos I watched on the nexus 6 had it submerged in a bath tub and it worked fine.
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nexus 6 lifeproof case
What about sending an email to lifeproof for a nexus 6 case from the nüüd series? Would that help?
The nexus is not nearly popular enough for lifeproof to make a case. They only do iphones, galaxy s series, and the droid turbo. They only did the turbo as part of a deal with Verizon because Verizon is most likely their largest customer.
What are you planning?
Looks good enough for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_aTg1VU6k&hd=1
mdandashly said:
Anyone know of a waterproof case for the N6? Something similar to a lifeproof case, perhaps? I know its water resistant, but looking for waterproof.
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You can have a look at this
SAW_JOK3R said:
You can have a look at this
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I have a couple of these. I hate em lol.
I use my phone in the rain snow and water fell on it here and there no issues. What are you gonna go take photos of Atlantis? Lol
I'm looking for a case myself. This spring I will be riding ATV's in the dirt/mud/water etc, and want to fully protect my phone. Sure, I could drop a sim in my S4 and grab a lifeproof for that but would prefer to bring my normal phone with me.
My ultimate goal is to handle-bar mount it, paired with a go-pro.
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I'm looking for a case myself. This spring I will be riding ATV's in the dirt/mud/water etc, and want to fully protect my phone. Sure, I could drop a sim in my S4 and grab a lifeproof for that but would prefer to bring my normal phone with me.
My ultimate goal is to handle-bar mount it, paired with a go-pro.
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Yeah I was thinking similarly for my Mountain Bike.
I just want to use mine in the shower in the morning, but scared the steam and water will still get in despite the nano coating
dcemtp1 said:
I just want to use mine in the shower in the morning, but scared the steam and water will still get in despite the nano coating
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Even IP67 certified stuff could get water damage if you accidentally put the device right in the stream of water
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I just want to use mine in the shower in the morning, but scared the steam and water will still get in despite the nano coating
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Don't do this. The heated water/steam will damage it without a good case designed for water proof.