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[Q] Potential buyer. A few questions.

Hello there
I have been trying to decide between the HTC One and the Galaxy S4 for quite some time now that I am actually getting tired from all the research and reading. My first Android device was the HTC One X, and to be honest I was thoroughly disappointed with it. The battery life was utter crap, Sense UI was incredibly laggy, I received absolutely no software updates (OTA) because I am in the Middle East and we usually get the updates 3 - 4 months after everyone else, the device was white and it started losing its color rather quickly and it garnered a lot of dings even though I am a careful user. I then moved to the Galaxy S3 and am pretty satisfied with it even though it isn't without its problems (which are also making me fear buying the S4), therefore I have a couple of questions regarding the HTC One:
1) How's the battery life? My usage is usually browsing, using whatsapp, installing new applications from the PlayStore to try them, listening to music from time to time and usually using Mobile Network (HSDPA or w.e it's called) instead of Wi-Fi, which I eats a lot of battery.
2) How's the material? Is it a bit weak like the HTC One X's or is the aluminum strong? If I get the HTC One I'll be getting the silver color.
3) Are there any heat issues? I remember the One X got really hot (but not unbearable) rather quickly and the material didn't help, either. Cases did, though.
4) Has the Sense UI improved in terms of laggyness when swiping and such from the One X's?
5) What is the latest firmware available for the HTC_J15 CID at the moment? That was my One X's CID and I am assuming it's because I am in Egypt, therefore the HTC One is supposedly going to be the same.
6) How's the camera in low-light conditions and the flash?
Thank you guys very much. I really appreciate your time.
TarekElsakka said:
Hello there
I have been trying to decide between the HTC One and the Galaxy S4 for quite some time now that I am actually getting tired from all the research and reading. My first Android device was the HTC One X, and to be honest I was thoroughly disappointed with it. The battery life was utter crap, Sense UI was incredibly laggy, I received absolutely no software updates (OTA) because I am in the Middle East and we usually get the updates 3 - 4 months after everyone else, the device was white and it started losing its color rather quickly and it garnered a lot of dings even though I am a careful user. I then moved to the Galaxy S3 and am pretty satisfied with it even though it isn't without its problems (which are also making me fear buying the S4), therefore I have a couple of questions regarding the HTC One:
1) How's the battery life? My usage is usually browsing, using whatsapp, installing new applications from the PlayStore to try them, listening to music from time to time and usually using Mobile Network (HSDPA or w.e it's called) instead of Wi-Fi, which I eats a lot of battery.
2) How's the material? Is it a bit weak like the HTC One X's or is the aluminum strong? If I get the HTC One I'll be getting the silver color.
3) Are there any heat issues? I remember the One X got really hot (but not unbearable) rather quickly and the material didn't help, either. Cases did, though.
4) Has the Sense UI improved in terms of laggyness when swiping and such from the One X's?
5) What is the latest firmware available for the HTC_J15 CID at the moment? That was my One X's CID and I am assuming it's because I am in Egypt, therefore the HTC One is supposedly going to be the same.
6) How's the camera in low-light conditions and the flash?
Thank you guys very much. I really appreciate your time.
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1) Excellent. I'm a heavy user, play ton of games, browse the internet with LTE (which uses more power than HSPA+) and it gets me through the day with at least 30% to spare.
2) Build quality is excellent.
3) It does get warm if you play graphically heavy games. other than that, I can't say it really got hot or anything.
4) Theres no lag on this phone at all. None. It's butter smooth, which you can't say the same thing about the s4 which lags like crazy.
5) No idea, sorry.
6) Low light is amazing. The whole benefit of the ultrapixel camera is for low light.
Thank you so much for your helpful and informative replies, they have definitely reassured me about the HTC One. I am not one to fully trust reviews from known people on YouTube or writers on Gizmodo and such because the biases are very clear, that's why even though this is a section dedicated to the HTC One I do not see a reason why someone would lie about their experience with the One in order to persuade others to buy it, what would they benefit anyway?
Thanks again. I appreciate it.
Yeah this phone is amazing. The phone does get rather warm when playing games or video chatting. But everything is butter smooth. 0 lag. At all. I still don't believe it. And the camera really excels at low light. At normal or bright levels its just good. Nothing super awesome, but good. And the build quality is top notch. Never seen a nicer looking phone or felt one that feels better in my hands. Hope this helps! I would definitely buy this phone again
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2- aluminum phones get hot. this is not an issue its designed like that. aluminum transfers the heat from the internals which prolongs the life of the phone. this is why car engines are made of aluminum and more importantly heat sinks on cicuit boards are aluminum
I agree with you. Plus, just about any device I played games on or browsed for a long time got warm, so that's understandable, however the Galaxy S3 gets REALLY hot (50+) when doing normal tasks for a long time, and of course the heat results in the battery getting depleted, and unfortunately Samsung seemingly did not do much about that with the S4 since my friends are experiencing the same issues with it. I have decided I am going to get a silver 32GB HTC One; the only Developer Edition ones I found in Egypt did not have warranty, but since I am dishing out so much money (over 800 USD), I might as well go for warranty as well as an anti-impact screen protector.
Battery life is pretty good. About 4 half to 5hrs screen time. No lag on sense 5.
Camera is nice. Dont get the s4.i had it for a week and lag soo much.dont get me wrong the s4 is nice but lags kills the phone so i sold it bought htc one,plus speakers are awesome
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Thank you so much everybody. I went ahead and ordered it and it is coming in about an hour or so. I ordered a 32GB silver version and I am extremely excited about it. Hopefully it won't disappoint me!
Hope you enjoy your new HTC One
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Most of these questions could be answered through all your research. haha Sounds like you came here for that last bit of reassurance, but you already made the decision. Battery life is the big one. The regular Sense doesn't do as much as the S4, but therefore it has good battery life. S4 does all this stuff.....but it's all useless stuff and kills the battery.
It's a pretty phone...but you'll end up with a case anyway.
And you already knew about the camera. But for the same reason it's good in low light, it's not as good for regular photos.
TarekElsakka said:
Thank you so much everybody. I went ahead and ordered it and it is coming in about an hour or so. I ordered a 32GB silver version and I am extremely excited about it. Hopefully it won't disappoint me!
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Wow, in Egypt stuff ships to you in an hour?!
I'm just kidding, i know you probably ordered it before.
Haha yeah I did.
TarekElsakka said:
Haha yeah I did.
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And for the CID, now you can S-OFF your device and change CID to whatever you want
TarekElsakka said:
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1) How's the battery life? My usage is usually browsing, using whatsapp, installing new applications from the PlayStore to try them, listening to music from time to time and usually using Mobile Network (HSDPA or w.e it's called) instead of Wi-Fi, which I eats a lot of battery.
2) How's the material? Is it a bit weak like the HTC One X's or is the aluminum strong? If I get the HTC One I'll be getting the silver color.
3) Are there any heat issues? I remember the One X got really hot (but not unbearable) rather quickly and the material didn't help, either. Cases did, though.
4) Has the Sense UI improved in terms of laggyness when swiping and such from the One X's?
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1. Battery life pretty good. A lot (!!) better that my old One X. You can get 4-5 hrs of screen time and doing battery sucking activities along and pretty much all the time: Photos, zoes, editing,downloading, browsing intensively, etc
2. Its hard as metal Really, it does feel harder and sturdier than the One X.
3. Well, it heats up I tell you that. I mean, my "One" gets to about 37+ after I browse or snap pics and zoes for more than 5-7 minutes. It gets even hotter, at 40+, if you keep using it, but the good part is that it cools down really fast. Take a 4-5 minute brake and its back to 30 or so
Like other ppl have said, its not a flaw... Aluminum conducts heat and that is a good thing for the phone. And that brings us to the UI and lag..
4. No. No lag. No stutter. Nothing! Butter-free is the right term. Moreover, not only is it lag-free, but its super fast in terms of opening aps and dealing with commands.
Good luck
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And for the CID, now you can S-OFF your device and change CID to whatever you want
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No way! That would be awesome when 4.2.2 is officially out since the Middle East receives updates months later than the West. How would you go about doing so mate?
TarekElsakka said:
No way! That would be awesome when 4.2.2 is officially out since the Middle East receives updates months later than the West. How would you go about doing so mate?
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You can do S-OFF following this method by revolutionnary team found here Or Moonshine method found here you'll find the command to change the CID, you can set the CID that receives the updates firstly, to get updates with official OTA, or just root and install custom rom based on latest firmware leaks
That's awesome, man. If I am not mistaken, that was not possible with the HTC One X, or at least not when I had it - I really struggled with not receiving OTA updates when everyone else was receiving them, which is why I always went the custom route although I prefer the stock one. Would you happen to know a website like SamMobile (for Samsung) that always informs of the latest firmwares available for the device? I am using ARHD and therefore I cannot use the "Software Update" feature in the device.

HTC One, G2 or Z1 ?

Hi everybody, excuse my english i'm french
So, i will buy a new smartphone, but i CAN'T decide between these phone, it's hard. I've a basic usage, i use my phone for SMS/call/twitter/facebook/(few) games/musique (with earphone)/(few) photos, and that's all I search a beautiful interface, because I HATE Android stock, it's very empty. So i search a beautiful interface with good features, i also search a very fast phone, and that's all because these 3 phone have an amazing screen/performance etc.
I like the HTC One because i think Sense is good, and i can't stay for the new HTC, but the One will have Sense 6.0 (with ROM custom) ? And the One is old..
I like the G2 for his screen, and his is new
And the Z1 for his camera
So thank you if you could help me, i've 800$ so i can buy any phone, thank you !
Excuse me for my english..
inyrfacebiatchh said:
Hi everybody, excuse my english i'm french
So, i will buy a new smartphone, but i CAN'T decide between these phone, it's hard. I've a basic usage, i use my phone for SMS/call/twitter/facebook/(few) games/musique (with earphone)/(few) photos, and that's all I search a beautiful interface, because I HATE Android stock, it's very empty. So i search a beautiful interface with good features, i also search a very fast phone, and that's all because these 3 phone have an amazing screen/performance etc.
I like the HTC One because i think Sense is good, and i can't stay for the new HTC, but the One will have Sense 6.0 (with ROM custom) ? And the One is old..
I like the G2 for his screen, and his is new
And the Z1 for his camera
So thank you if you could help me, i've 800$ so i can buy any phone, thank you !
Excuse me for my english..
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you'd better remove this thread before a mod does...
What does not go here (by far an uncomplete list, just some examples for topics that are not tolerated)
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Device comparison threads "Which is better: iphone or this phone" (see above)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159
Why is pro and con comparement not allowed on xda ?
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pshdo said:
Why is pro and con comparement not allowed on xda ?
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Pro and cons are allowed in one thread. but for comparisons between 2 or 3 phones, people will take this to serious and it will go out of hand fast. And anyway he put this in an HTC One forum why would take about how awesome another phone is because most of us don't have both phones anyway. But to answer the op the HTC One is the best!!!!
I have M7 and 'had' Z1, just recently sold it due to a few factors such as weight, poor screen viewing angles, ridiculous button placement, limited dev support and extremely average camera in low to medium light conditions. I cant say much about the G2 other than imo its fairly ugly looking.
dirtbikerr450 said:
Pro and cons are allowed in one thread. but for comparisons between 2 or 3 phones, people will take this to serious and it will go out of hand fast. And anyway he put this in an HTC One forum why would take about how awesome another phone is because most of us don't have both phones anyway. But to answer the op the HTC One is the best!!!!
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It is just a little funny that we are alloud to compare eg. the camera of two phones, but to compare two phones is not...
Never mind...
I actually have both phones in the house, and have used the Z1 for two months as my own before i bought the ONE...
- and this is my thoughts on the subject...
Camera:
The Auto feature (point and shoot) of the Z1 is NOT working at all...
The manual function is working, but i think that most of us use auto function anyway...
A Little plus is that Z1 have a deticated camera button.
On the ONE, the auto "point and shoot" function works really great, but in this phone you really have to remember that it is only a 4mp camera nomatter that HTC try to call them ultra pixels...
Sony have at least the option to make a great camera down the line, as they at least have put in the hardware for it inside the phone...
Daily feel:
The Z1 is really fantastic pice of electronics, the glass/alu feel is really nice...
The viewing angle is not amazing, but i mostly use the phone when i look at it anyway, so that is NOT a real problem unless you really need to share your life at any moment with the World arround you, and then you could just turn your phone over to your friend anyway...
The edges arround the Z1 screen is simply much too wide thoug, with no function at all, just a lot of Black (or White or purple)...
Back and home is even onscreen, and not on the edge...
The water proof feature is really nice to have thoug, just wash the phone if it get dirty...
The processor in the Z1 feels supperior to the HTC by a lot, it feels like it have the power to do anything you want...
The ONE on the other hand is alu/plastic, and feels a little cheaper i think, but really nice compared to most phones anyway...
The ONE have a smaller size due to a Little smaller screen and much smaller edges, and it feels better in the hand when you hold it and use it...
- the Z1 is actually a little too big to type on or use it with one hand, and i have no small hands...
The edges on the ONE is much smaller arround the screen and i love that...
But the processor in the ONE actually feels less powerfull... you can actually feel it in daily use...
Sense or Xperia, i can´t really see the differense...
- both works fine, but the Xperia is perhaps a little closer to the pure Android feeling...
I have both in the house as i mentioned, and i have used both as my daily phone, but...
I would proberbly get the Z1 again (don´t hate me HTC ONE forum), but only IF the Z1 had a dual sim feature like my HTC ONE variant...
- i love the dual sim feature in my ONE variant, and THAT is the only reason i bought this phone!
Thank you very much, i've tested the Z1 in a store just 30 seconds, and i was REALLY blufed by the smooth of the phone, it's incredible, the G2 and the One aren't available for testing.. I don't open a game or other, just open the browser (Google Chrome) and scroll into the homescreen, this is very fast, so i think i will buy this phone, but i love Sense and i don't want wait 3 months for the new HTC.. The G2 is not very beautiful, so i pass on this phone. The Z1 have many problems (reviews from buyers), so, it's better i go on the HTC One who is a great value or the Z1 ? If i buy the One, will i have Sense 6.0 with ROM Cutom or Official updates ? Thank you all
Before this thread gets closed. Check out the Xperia Z1S. Newer, better and an IPS screen. Completely waterproof certified too (for 30 minutes). It comes to the US on January 22nd, and I'm completely on the fence on whether to stick with my One or get that.

I want to buy HTC One

Hey! I want to buy an HTC One, cause i like the design and the materials. Can you tell me how it is the case in time? Is scratching easy (silver one)?
In my calculations come Nexus 5 and LG G2 too. What do you suggest?
xTee said:
Hey! I want to buy an HTC One, cause i like the design and the materials. Can you tell me how it is the case in time? Is scratching easy (silver one)?
In my calculations come Nexus 5 and LG G2 too. What do you suggest?
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Take any of those.
One is great, but you will slap case on it anyways /No offense/
I took silver one, because i wanted to go caseless, and according to forums, silver was less prone to scratch than coloured. Actually, it scratches in same manner, but as long as alluminium is naturally silver, you won't notice silver scratch on silver phone, right ?
But i ended up putting case on it anyways. Lens is bit uneven. On one side the lens is almost flush with back of phone. I am too affraid that it will scratch and ruin great UltraPixel experience.
But I do like my One the most. If i had opportunity to choose again betwwen Nexus 5, G2 and Htc1, i would take Htc One again.
remusator said:
Take any of those.
One is great, but you will slap case on it anyways /No offense/
I took silver one, because i wanted to go caseless, and according to forums, silver was less prone to scratch than coloured. Actually, it scratches in same manner, but as long as alluminium is naturally silver, you won't notice silver scratch on silver phone, right ?
But i ended up putting case on it anyways. Lens is bit uneven. On one side the lens is almost flush with back of phone. I am too affraid that it will scratch and ruin great UltraPixel experience.
But I do like my One the most. If i had opportunity to choose again betwwen Nexus 5, G2 and Htc1, i would take Htc One again.
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Thank you for your answer! If i buy One, i will not use a case. Is sad to cover the beauty of the HTC One with a case The design is the reason that i added HTC One in "fight" with Nexus 5 and LG G2, not the hardware. If i chose according to hardware, HTC One will not be in this unfair fight *No offense*
Stay strong, don't put any case on it !
If you want to go caseless, htc one is all the way ! Feeling of cold allumium is great.
As for the scratch. Don't worry about them. Phone is made to be used, not protected.
There's absolutely no reason to protect it and put on shelf after 2 years in pristine condition. Scratches are like scars. Every has it own story.
As for the android stability, and smoothness -> i see no slowdowns after 2-3 months at all.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious, that most of users in One forum will advise you to buy One.
If you have any additional questions, feel free to ask.
remusator said:
Stay strong, don't put any case on it !
If you want to go caseless, htc one is all the way ! Feeling of cold allumium is great.
As for the scratch. Don't worry about them. Phone is made to be used, not protected.
There's absolutely no reason to protect it and put on shelf after 2 years in pristine condition. Scratches are like scars. Every has it own story.
As for the android stability, and smoothness -> i see no slowdowns after 2-3 months at all.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious, that most of users in One forum will advise you to buy One.
If you have any additional questions, feel free to ask.
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"Scratches are like scars. Every has it own story." - hahahah, good one ).
Do you have root/custom rom/kernel? How is the HTC One with roms development? The stock rom from HTC One Google Edition is working on normal edition?
Battery? How is it?
xTee said:
"Scratches are like scars. Every has it own story." - hahahah, good one ).
Do you have root/custom rom/kernel? How is the HTC One with roms development? The stock rom from HTC One Google Edition is working on normal edition?
Battery? How is it?
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Out of 3 android phones I've had/got (Sony Xperia Z Ultra - HTC One - and Samsung Note 1) HTC ONE has the bigger and better development. There is alot to choose from. I've not got one scratch on my HTC one I've had it for about 4 months. After HTC replaced my old One. I find battery very good using ARHD. But I would loovvee a HTC One Max....
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xTee said:
"Scratches are like scars. Every has it own story." - hahahah, good one ).
Do you have root/custom rom/kernel? How is the HTC One with roms development? The stock rom from HTC One Google Edition is working on normal edition?
Battery? How is it?
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As far as i know, the development is ok. It's HTC's current flagship and there are plenty of roms out there including latest CyanogenMod.
However i am using Stock rom. It fits my needs just great.
Only problem I had with my phone - i had to debrand (change CID) of my phone, because i received T-Mobile Germany branded device from eshop in Slovakia, and i wasn't receiving any ota's...
So i had to HTC dev unlock, S-OFF, change CID and back to stock. Now ota's are coming alright.
The GPE and Sense editions are exactly same hardware. Only difference is software. So roms are interchangeable. If you install custom recovery, you just flash zip, that some dev has to create from ota.
If you want to be stock, it's bit harder, but not impossible. Basically simmilar than my problem. You change CID of phone and fool him to think "Hey I'm GPE phone"...
Battery - approximately 1,5 days normal use. 2 days on light usage, 1 day on harder usage.
My normal usage is - data ON 09:00 - 23:00, wifi on when in office / at home, bluetooth at car 1 hour a day, autosync 1 gmail acc, hangouts, fb messenger, outlook (ms exchange)
Everyone's usage is different, but i could sum up it : Absolutely no problem surviving from morning when i unplug to evening... Even with harder chatting, some games..
GSam battery monitor says:
Battery Life 1d 9.1h (8h 3m active)
Screen On 3h 3m (3h 53m max)
remusator said:
As far as i know, the development is ok. It's HTC's current flagship and there are plenty of roms out there including latest CyanogenMod.
However i am using Stock rom. It fits my needs just great.
Only problem I had with my phone - i had to debrand (change CID) of my phone, because i received T-Mobile Germany branded device from eshop in Slovakia, and i wasn't receiving any ota's...
So i had to HTC dev unlock, S-OFF, change CID and back to stock. Now ota's are coming alright.
The GPE and Sense editions are exactly same hardware. Only difference is software. So roms are interchangeable. If you install custom recovery, you just flash zip, that some dev has to create from ota.
If you want to be stock, it's bit harder, but not impossible. Basically simmilar than my problem. You change CID of phone and fool him to think "Hey I'm GPE phone"...
Battery - approximately 1,5 days normal use. 2 days on light usage, 1 day on harder usage.
My normal usage is - data ON 09:00 - 23:00, wifi on when in office / at home, bluetooth at car 1 hour a day, autosync 1 gmail acc, hangouts, fb messenger, outlook (ms exchange)
Everyone's usage is different, but i could sum up it : Absolutely no problem surviving from morning when i unplug to evening... Even with harder chatting, some games..
GSam battery monitor says:
Battery Life 1d 9.1h (8h 3m active)
Screen On 3h 3m (3h 53m max)
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i think i will buy the HTC One. :good:

How I managed to reduce lag - for inexperienced users

The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Sensors You're not Using
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates - new users may not know to check this application for system updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates.
Hippoman13 said:
The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Unnecessary Sensors
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates. Samsung is known for laggy launch software and that is what we're dealing with, folks.
I would appreciate feedback and input.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new Samsung® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
This is a good guide and starting point, thank you for taking the time to post it here. As always, other users should take all guides as such; a starting point to customize "your" rig for what "you" use. Take what you like and leave the rest aside. :good:
S6 making more problems than S5
My S5 Goes better then the s6 Egde
I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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Yay for you. Who cares?
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Well the M9 display and camera are quite poor compared to the S6 and iPhone. It's really unfortunate.
The new iPhone is only 5 months away, so enjoy your phone while it's relevant. I've played around with iOS 8.3 and it really is killer, I just don't like iPhones lol.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new Samsung® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You're joking, right?
Many bloat apps run in the background and consume CPU and RAM. They don't just sit there dormant in the storage.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You are an idiot.... Because on physical disk drives (HDD's not SSD's) being fuller does mean slower. That is that the drive will take longer to seek data as the way that the disk writes/reads data it would have to move the heads back an forth much further/more often. as I drive gets fuller it also fragments data more often. his is why a SSD is superior at seek times as it does not have to seek data on a physical level, especially as they get closer to full utilization of capacity.
Beyond that, a HDD writes from outside edge of the disk inward. This is because at the same rpm, each revolution that the disk makes it is able to pull more data on the outside of the disk than the inside. Density of data is uniform so it simply passes more data. Think of a car that has a tiny (diameter) tire vs a large one (same car). At the same rpms in a given gear, the large diameter tire will be moving faster. Why? The outside edge has a higher velocity than the inside of the tire as it spins. The further a spinning object reaches from center, the faster it will be spinning at an outside edge vs inner.
I agree this guide is bs...Just as your understanding of computer storage architecture is.
There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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Yeah the battery has been a disappointment so far coming from the g3... but I only had the g3 for a month and had a nexus 5 for a year before that so I'm kinda used to it. Still a buzzkill tho
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
This is honestly so dumb. There is no lag...
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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I've never replaced a battery in any phone I've had and I don't use microsd so I actually like the device being sealed. It adds to the build quality and the sturdiness. You couldn't have the glass back if it was removable

Overall speed

Would you say that the HTC 10 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the HTC 10 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Have you used it as the apps and their data build up? Is the camera still snappy, do the apps still launch quickly?
Just slightly faster than my old LG G3 which I still use at home to save the unremovable battery
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So much better than my old AT&T Galaxy Note Edge. Runs cooler also, can actually record in 4K without overheating.
It is faster than my 2014 Moto X with a Snapdragon 801 and 2GB of RAM.
However there are little things that are actually faster in my old Moto X:
- The recent apps list takes a while to show in the HTC 10 I have no idea why. Even disabling animations it still takes longer than on my 2yo phone
- The voice recognition sometimes takes longer on the HTC 10!
But overrall it is faster
It is a little more speed than my HTC One A9
Nice article!! Thanks for sharing with us
sometimes the notification was too full will lead phone a little bit lag ,hope on android n will improve
Much much faster than my old Droid Turbo 2
It is the fastest one and it will remain the fastest until the new HTC Nexus gets released
It was pretty fast on stock, but after rooting, debloating, its very very fast, awesome in fact
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Way faster then my g4
The HTC 10 is the faster phone I ever had. It is much faster than my Nexus 6P and has zero lag. I absolutely love it.
just coming from galaxy s6 with a custom rom (like now with leedroid rom), I think the Galaxy s6 is more speedy device for everyday use
I'm coming from a Nexus 6P rooted which was blazing quick however this phone as with the M7 and M9 (skipped the M8) and i have to say that the HTC with the newer version of sense (M7 onwards) certainly holds it's own, even at stock it's fast, couple that with a decent custom rom and optimize it, they're probably the most responsive phones i've ever used.
I really haven't had any performance issues to speak of whatsoever with these devices.
The only time you'll see a slow down is when you open the application manager and attempt to scroll down before it's actually loaded, which is the same on most android devices.
I have my gripes with HTC, mainly the battery and glare on photo's, or the paint on the gun metal one (my one, chips easily) some of the software could be better, like the camera and other stock apps, but overall i think they're moving more in the right direction than any other label.
Samsung seem to think that touchwiz is superb, it's got better but jesus it's a crippling launcher and the whole eco system following it.
I've moved away from HTC too many times, i'll be sticking with them from now on.
I'll bet that the new Nexus is by far and away the quickest device there has been up until now, bare in mind that the last time HTC did a nexus device it was a masterpiece.
Long live HTC (with better batteries
The HTC One series was always fast and for some reason my original HTC M7 was twice as fast as my Samsung Note 2 when it came to LTE signal. I was on AT&T at the time but I like T-Mobiles unlimited everything plan with 7gigs of tethering a month. When T-Mobile advertised that they doubled their LTE coverage and made it faster, I can't argue at all. My HTC 10 has only showed the "4G" icon once since launch day. Combine blazing fast signal with Sense (or Nova Prime) with a Sense toggle and slow never enters the discussion!
Blazing fast and smooth
Anyone coming directly from the HTC one m8? How do they compare in terms of speed and smoothness?
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Badelhas said:
Anyone coming directly from the HTC one m8? How do they compare in terms of speed and smoothness?
Cheers
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I still have my M8 along with my current 10. Both are S-Off, rooted, etc and running their respective version of ViperRom. 10 is a lot faster...though I do miss my IR blaster...lol...which is a main reason I keep it (I'll also use it as my GPS/music device in my car mount hotspotted to my 10.
Faster not only in look and feel but in benchmarks...and although its an outdated benchmark...quadrant scores on my M8 are always in the 28-32000 range. 10 is always in the 43-46,000 range. I find that simple benchmark usually correlates to how I feel my phone is running at the time.
Interesting note though....Xposed KILLS my 10's performance (quadrant scores drop to anywhere between 18,000 when "sluggish" to only 30,000 when it seems to be running okay but slower than without it). to where I had to uninstall it. It has no effect on my M8 in performance.
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I still have my M8 along with my current 10. Both are S-Off, rooted, etc and running their respective version of ViperRom. 10 is a lot faster...though I do miss my IR blaster...lol...which is a main reason I keep it (I'll also use it as my GPS/music device in my car mount hotspotted to my 10.
Faster not only in look and feel but in benchmarks...and although its an outdated benchmark...quadrant scores on my M8 are always in the 28-32000 range. 10 is always in the 43-46,000 range. I find that simple benchmark usually correlates to how I feel my phone is running at the time.
Interesting note though....Xposed KILLS my 10's performance (quadrant scores drop to anywhere between 18,000 when "sluggish" to only 30,000 when it seems to be running okay but slower than without it). to where I had to uninstall it. It has no effect on my M8 in performance.
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So in everyday real world use you notice the speed difference? I ask this because the M8 on Marshmallow is so smooth already, I don't get how it can get even faster.

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