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Ok I'm really frustrated with this.
On 2.1 eclair the youtube app only streams in HQ, not HD.
I updated to 2.2 and even installed the newer YT ported over from gingerbread and it STILL only streams in HQ, not HD.
WHY??? Why does google not want us to stream in HD? YT is like my favourite app yet you can't stream in HD even over WIFI. Even the iphone 4 can stream youtube in HD.
Second of all, what's with people confusing HD and HQ? Looking through posts online people seem to mistakenly say you can stream in HD when in reality they mean HQ. Do people not see the difference? It's night and day....
of course it can
just click the HD button and it will display in HD if the stream is has a higher resolution file to display
is there something I'm missing then?
I've tried many videos that have HD (on computer) on my phone and it's only HQ.
THe quality difference is noticeable.
Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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And ye forgot, even then the videos should be optimized for that, the channel should be YouTube partner and ye, optimized for mobile. I think some videos shot in 720p with smartphones and directly uploaded to yt allow that.
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in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
AllGamer said:
in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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hey just wondering, I used Tube-Mate but even when streaming that lebron commercial it only shows up as HQ, not HD.
If I download it with Tube-mate in 720p and watch it in video player, THEN it's in HD....
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
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video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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Well it's probably due to the carriers. If you were a carrier with a 3G network would you want to stream 480p or 720p video to phones with 480p resolutions??
It makes sense for the carriers, so it probably made sense to Google as well.
There are also QOS (Quality Of Service) issues to consider. It's safe to say that google and your carrier cannot reliably guarantee that you could have the bandwidth via 3g/3.5g to always and reliably be able to stream HD video. Users in this scenario would likely make the mistake of blaming the carrier, google and youtube for making a crap system and crap app, rather than making the reasoned leap that perhaps the network isn't always going to be up to the task. It's best to impose a limitation few would complain out, to guarantee more reliable service and a more reliable perception of that service for everyone.
In my experience the difference in quality between streamed and directly downloaded (and higher resolution) video is minimal, and usually dependent on the source material as well as how old the youtube video is..
But you can directly download them with apps like Tube Mate....so I'm unsure of the problem, other than it merely being a lack of patience. But if patience is the issue(due to the amount of time it takes), it'd likely have trouble streaming in a timely manner anyway.
yeah I'm aware of the amount of bandwidth required to stream HD over 3G but that's not my concern. My concern is over WIFI because I can't seem to stream in HD over WIFI. There are people here saying they can stream HD through WIFI (not sure if it's more confusion with HQ and HD) but there DEFINITELY is no option to stream in HD through wifi for my youtube app, which is the latest one (the eclaire 2.1 app wasn't able to either).
I can only stream in HQ, not HD. The quality diff is noticeable. That lebron james commercial I posted is a very good example. Just dl it with tube-mate in 720p and watch it. Compare the quality with streaming the same video in "HQ" on the youtube app...big difference. I don't get why we can't even stream in HD through WIFI?
I also don't get why some people are saying they CAN stream in HD....
Unless for some reason my youtube app is gimped (highly doubt it), these people are still mistaking HQ for HD...
and yes the whole point of youtube is to stream, so of course I would want to stream in HD. Why would I want to have to search up the video, then download it, then watch it. That's not how youtube is supposed to work....
again bandwidth/speed isn't an issue since I'm on WIFI
sorry just had to get this off my chest.
Just an update.
I found what appears to be the best app to stream HD youtube vids.
It's JetVD, available for free from the market.
It streams 720p PERFECTLY. That lebron commercial above is crystal clear.
If you choose mp4 high quality, you get the same quality as what the youtube app streams. You can also download if you want.
I love the YT interface and being able to view my account, my favourites, see related videos...etc.
I guess I'l have to use both and switch to JetVD to stream 720p.
Shame for some reason Google decided to gimp the YT app (even on WIFI).
+1 for JetVD
Been using it since Hero days, used to let me download while streaming another video, or download multiple videos at once, but the most recent updates are missing this useful ability.
Still, its free and works great for viewing HD and saving them to ur phone for offline use as well!
i have jetVD installed too
still can't decide which one is better
I tried rock player lite, but it doesn't play hd vids very smoothly; I transcoded Star Trek 2009 to mp4, and its very jerky and doesn't play smooth..
Any other video players that you guys might recommend?
thanks so much; lovin' this damn thing!!!
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The best I have used so far is MoboPlayer (http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html) You have to use the medium version since the Xoom doesn't support Neon. This is the only player I could get to play 720p video smoothly. Hope that helps and if you find something better let me know!
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I tried this and it works the best out of all i have tried. Make sure you get the medium version and not the Neon version.
unfortunately, mobo player does not recognize .m4v files, which is how I have saved my ripped Blu rays..
wase4711 said:
unfortunately, mobo player does not recognize .m4v files, which is how I have saved my ripped Blu rays..
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tried renaming them as mp4? usually does the trick for me if i recall. the two formats are almost identical.
I have had no trouble using the stock video player to play 720p videos encoded into a mp4 file. I would go that route and use the hardware decoding
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tried renaming them as mp4? usually does the trick for me if i recall. the two formats are almost identical.
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thanks; doing that, and encoding 720p instead of 1080p seemed to fix it!
Any news on the android version of VLC??
wase4711 said:
thanks; doing that, and encoding 720p instead of 1080p seemed to fix it!
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The Xoom can easily handle 720p videos. I haven't tested 1080. It all depends on how you encode the video.
From what I've seen on the threads and in personal experience, there are really only two viable players: the Android native video player, and RockPlayer. Between these two, you should be able to enjoy all your video, provided you have encoded them correctly.
I hate converting videos, thats why i use mobo. Its played all my videos great. Much better than Rock played, vplayer advance same spot.
found one!
Vital player will play everything for me, including 1080p videos that I have encoded with Handbrake..
Loving this thing!!
rockplayer and the stock video player handles blu rays i convert with handbrake very well
I tried different players and playback quality is mostly the same. Perhaps minor, but I like the interface in mVideoPlayer - posters, IMDB links etc.
I have said it before and Ill say it again. Your best bet for video is to get PLEX. As of this writing it is still not Honeycomb ready. As a beta tester working with the devs, I can tell you that its playing video like a champ on my Xoom and a release to public should be coming very soon.
what good is telling us that here if WE can't download it yet?
you should wait until its released before you keep posting that here..
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what good is telling us that here if WE can't download it yet?
you should wait until its released before you keep posting that here..
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Two reasons really.
Lets face facts that the majority of us here own a Xoom because we are Android nerds and already own a Android phone. So purchasing Plex on your phone will give you access to it on your Xoom when its available. In truth you can install it on your Xoom already, the video just does not work in the current release.
Two there is no quicker way to know about its updated release for Honeycomb compatibility then to have it already installed and letting the market inform you.
Lastly this is a community page and a community OS, so keeping others informed is kind of the way things work. If you have a problem with someone telling you that there will soon be an app released that will do X, but you cant have it yet, mumble quietly to yourself, but keep it to yourself.
ritalin said:
I have said it before and Ill say it again. Your best bet for video is to get PLEX. As of this writing it is still not Honeycomb ready. As a beta tester working with the devs, I can tell you that its playing video like a champ on my Xoom and a release to public should be coming very soon.
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Does it play local files yet or all still streamed from server? Also, any clue of an ETA?
dch921 said:
I have had no trouble using the stock video player to play 720p videos encoded into a mp4 file. I would go that route and use the hardware decoding
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Do you mean using stock player in hardware decoding mode?
How do you do this? I can't find the options for the stock player.
Thanks
QQPlayer is free and doesnt want any special permissions
Hi,
I use QQPlayer. It plays everything I have thrown at it and it does not need any special permissions to install.
-TheHoovie
I'm still using Mobo. I just played a 1080p Meet the Fockers avi I got from a torrent site over HDMI on my big TV and everything was perfect.
patass said:
I'm still using Mobo. I just played a 1080p Meet the Fockers avi I got from a torrent site over HDMI on my big TV and everything was perfect.
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Obviously wasn't high profile or it would have stuttered without sound.
I watched anime a lot and it usually came with H10P encoding , please kindly let me know if xperia Z1 can play the video smoothly? Thanks
kan4ta said:
I watched anime a lot and it usually came with H10P encoding , please kindly let me know if xperia Z1 can play the video smoothly? Thanks
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You should give us link to try.
I found something on YouTube and if you meant on something like this YOUTUBE LINK then YES it can and it's very smooth.
If you have link for short movie to download, send me PM and I will try for you.
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Stock Player can't
What he is asking for is if the Z1 can play Hi10p encoding. This is the latest encoding using 10bits instead of the normal 8bits (you can google for the rest of the features). You can go to doki.co or bakabt.me (BBT usually has larger files since it's full series, but if you're afraid of getting called the P word, everything in BBT is unlicensed in the states) and get one of the episodes there. The episode name will have 10bit or Hi10P or H10P in the name.
I don't watch movies on my device, but I have a few downloaded and waiting to be transferred off. I tried and the stock player and ES media player can't play these videos. I'm not sure if there are any 10bit player in the play store either.
I'm sure Z1 can handle that video but the question is do we have software and codex for that.
I really don't know that - so sorry - can't help here.
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Also watch a crapton of anime, Z1 plays 720p Hi10p videos fine using MX Player.
Struggles with 1080p Hi10p, but the file I tested had a very high bitrate and it was streamed from my PC.
Only works with software mode though, so battery takes a bit of a hit.
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Step 1 - Create a folder called 3D under Oculus / Movies / My Videos /
[it'll look like this Oculus / Movies / My Videos / 3D]
Step 2 - Put your 3D movie in that new folder.
Step 3 - Get into Oculus Cinema and go to my videos. It'll be labled 3D on the top corner and the video will merge the two views when you watch it.
PS - I moved the whole Oculus folder from the gear vr sd card to my previous sd card. And I still don't know how to watch youtube other than downloading it from youtube and placing it in the 3D folder.
Have fun!
More Links
" I downloaded a few 360° videos from here that worked when copied to 360videos folder.
http://www.kolor.com/360-video/gallery " - Thanks Scoobrel for the link!
Also youtube Samsung and LG 3D video tech demos. They are really good with the 3D effects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuAhfXoRkX8
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Good to know. Thanks for sharing the info.
Is there a particular 3D format that is recommended for Note 4/Gear VR combination?
Thanks,
Osho
Surething!
Cough , For movies I already own, I just torrent any "3D" Movies. I heard Gravity looks awesome in 3D.
boodies said:
Surething!
Cough , For movies I already own, I just torrent any "3D" Movies. I heard Gravity looks awesome in 3D.
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So basically any SBS mkv should work right? How is the movie experience? Is it worth the 200$*add-on?
Toss3 said:
So basically any SBS mkv should work right? How is the movie experience? Is it worth the 200$*add-on?
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The experience is out of this world. Haven't had any real VR experience before and it is crazy awesome. It's very immersive, enough to trick my mind to thinking i'm actually there in 3d space. Like that one mogolian hut scene as well as the circus were very real. I see huge potential in this thing. Oh, about watching movies, yeah, you're in a virtual cinema which is really cool cause the lighting of the movie lights up the whole interior just like in the real movies. Youre gonna love it. yes, it's worth 200.
edit: haven't tried mkvs. The two 3d movies I had were mp4 and they worked.
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The experience is out of this world. Haven't had any real VR experience before and it is crazy awesome. It's very immersive, enough to trick my mind to thinking i'm actually there in 3d space. Like that one mogolian hut scene as well as the circus were very real. I see huge potential in this thing. Oh, about watching movies, yeah, you're in a virtual cinema which is really cool cause the lighting of the movie lights up the whole interior just like in the real movies. Youre gonna love it. yes, it's worth 200.
edit: haven't tried mkvs. The two 3d movies I had were mp4 and they worked.
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Is there an app that allows you to watch the movies without the virtual cinema surroundings, as in just the movie in 3D? That's basically what I'm buying it for, so it would be good to know if it works without any sort of extra fluff that isn't needed.
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Is there an app that allows you to watch the movies without the virtual cinema surroundings, as in just the movie in 3D? That's basically what I'm buying it for, so it would be good to know if it works without any sort of extra fluff that isn't needed.
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Yes, there are 4 options for the cinema setting. One is a blank dark screen so you don't see the seats etc.
I downloaded a few 360° videos from here that worked when copied to 360videos folder.
http://www.kolor.com/360-video/gallery
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I downloaded a few 360° videos from here that worked when copied to 360videos folder.
http://www.kolor.com/360-video/gallery
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Nice find! Ill let people know this in the op. Thanks!
boodies said:
Nice find! Ill let people know this in the op. Thanks!
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You're welcome. If I find anymore I'll share.
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Toss3 said:
Is there an app that allows you to watch the movies without the virtual cinema surroundings, as in just the movie in 3D? That's basically what I'm buying it for, so it would be good to know if it works without any sort of extra fluff that isn't needed.
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You can do that in the Void Cinema within the Oculus Cinema and also in the VR Gallery app.
I lost the SD card that came with my gear vr. I created the folders oculus/movies/myvideos/3d in my regular SD card but they still don't show. Any ideas?
perryh1 said:
I lost the SD card that came with my gear vr. I created the folders oculus/movies/myvideos/3d in my regular SD card but they still don't show. Any ideas?
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Not sure if you got this working yet, but did you create the 3d folder as "3d" or "3D" - not sure if it's case sensitive.
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I lost the SD card that came with my gear vr. I created the folders oculus/movies/myvideos/3d in my regular SD card but they still don't show. Any ideas?
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my space videos
perryh1 said:
I lost the SD card that came with my gear vr. I created the folders oculus/movies/myvideos/3d in my regular SD card but they still don't show. Any ideas?
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My only guess is that you need the other files. I copied all the files over to my larger SD and works fine.
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MKV and AVI video works but NOT audio! It only works with mp4 (which are also what all the stock videos are). Anyone know how to get audio to work with other files???
Update: I can play the same 3D (SBS) MKV or AVI files with a regular app and audio is great. (also louder than VR app) If I place in front of the VR without plugging in I can watch the video in 3D fine.
Ok figured it out. If the movie is a sbs movie lets say gravity.mp4 then create a file called gravity.txt in that file put this
{
"format": "3D"
}
This works every time for me. In the oculus cinema app, under my videos you'll see the movie and it will say 3d in the top right corner
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Ok figured it out. If the movie is a sbs movie lets say gravity.mp4 then create a file called gravity.txt in that file put this
{
"format": "3D"
}
This works every time for me. In the oculus cinema app, under my videos you'll see the movie and it will say 3d in the top right corner
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Weird people said that creating a 3D folder and putting the files inside is enough for it to work, but maybe not with all 3D videos?
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Update: I can play the same 3D (SBS) MKV or AVI files with a regular app and audio is great. (also louder than VR app) If I place in front of the VR without plugging in I can watch the video in 3D fine.
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What regular app do you mean? Do you mean a video player app outside of VR?
Perry, I'm not sure if this might be the cause but like I said, your folder is not even named correctly to begin with. It's NOT myvideos folder. It's my videos folder. There is a space between my and videos. You dont need all that txt crap. Gravity works 3d, ive already watched guardians of the galaxy 3d on it.
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Perry, I'm not sure if this might be the cause but like I said, your folder is not even named correctly to begin with. It's NOT myvideos folder. It's my videos folder. There is a space between my and videos. You dont need all that txt crap. Gravity works 3d, ive already watched guardians of the galaxy 3d on it.
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I was just going by what oculus support wrote for the gear vr bro. The my videos thing was typo on my part, my bad. Worked for me thought I'd share. This is per their site
https://support.oculus.com/hc/en-us/articles/204372193-Watching-Your-Videos-in-Oculus-Cinema
For 3D video content, Oculus Cinema supports the side-by-side and top-to-bottom formats. To designate that a file is 3D, create a text file with the same file name as your video and place it in the same directory. For instance, for mymovie.mp4, create a text file mymovie.txt, with the following content:
{
"format": "3D"
}
Where the format can be any one of:
“3D” : 3D movie side-by-side
“3DLR” : 3D movie side-by-side (same as “3D”)
“3DLRF” : 3D movie side-by-side full screen
“3DTB” : 3D movie top-to-bottom
“3DTBF” : 3D movie top-to-bottom full screen
The next time you launch Oculus Cinema, your video should automatically appear in the “My Videos” section. If it doesn't, please check the instructions and try again.
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Weird people said that creating a 3D folder and putting the files inside is enough for it to work, but maybe not with all 3D videos?
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What regular app do you mean? Do you mean a video player app outside of VR?
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Correct. For example MX Player will play MLK and AVI with audio fine. Oculus only plays mp4 with audio.
hi guys what is the best format to view 3d movies on the gear is it over /under (ou) or side by side (sbs) format
I've read somewhere that 1920x540 is the ideal aspect so is that the over under format ? thanks
SBS. LG has some nice demos on YouTube. Personally I'd prefer a qHD video over 3D any day. Think about it. Real life is actually qHD not 3D.
ok thanks is there any good recommendations of video content to download for when mine comes ? thanks
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ok thanks is there any good recommendations of video content to download for when mine comes ? thanks
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For starter use tubemate and you can download some 3d and 360 videos from youtube straight to the phone. For more you will need computer and use some tricks to download videos from sites like airpano, 360heros, vimeo and more.
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