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Hi all!
I've some antutu results... it seems that on 1600Mhz, Note is far behind (compared to S2) in the following values:
2D (126 ?!)
3D (598 ?!)
SD card read (8.9MB)
this is with AbyssNote 3.1 kernel and Criskelo V1, but I've similar results with stock and other ROMs too. Using Chainfire's 3D driver don't change the results.
Do you have any knowledge about these values and/or the reasons behind 'em?
and what about real world performance not a benchmark?
benchmarks are great for giving people something to brag about, but these are not real world tests, compare it side by side for speed when using the phone not a benchmark
killerjohn said:
Hi all!
I've some antutu results... it seems that on 1600Mhz, Note is far behind (compared to S2) in the following values:
2D (126 ?!)
3D (598 ?!)
SD card read (8.9MB)
this is with AbyssNote 3.1 kernel and Criskelo V1, but I've similar results with stock and other ROMs too. Using Chainfire's 3D driver don't change the results.
Do you have any knowledge about these values and/or the reasons behind 'em?
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Try to run 2 or 3 time benchmark. this a known issue to Mali as GPU will always lock to 160mhz from the higher 267mhz..
For sdcard read/write use some app that change the sd cache size to higher value to increase that.
Richy99 said:
and what about real world performance not a benchmark?
benchmarks are great for giving people something to brag about, but these are not real world tests, compare it side by side for speed when using the phone not a benchmark
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it FEELS much worse, this is why I started some bechmarks...
I've two S2 (stock and custom OC, UV) and a Note, so I know what I'm talking about...
Note is pretty fast. You on crack.
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Note is pretty fast. You on crack.
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I really don't want to ignore you, but S2 is much more lagfree. And it seems that the GPU is really much slower than on S2. Please don't be an "Apple fan" who is just talking that "oo it's perfect, better than anything". NO. It (I mean the Note) has bugs. Serious ones.
It has been said millions of times...
The note has nearly twice the pixel of the s2 so it has to work much more for every frame...
Wait for ICS and the note will burst your mind away
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I have both and I can say the s2 is a tad snappier than the GNote.Both are stock.To say that the Note is much worse is BS unless you have sytem power saving on.
Alexforfun said:
It has been said millions of times...
Wait for ICS and the note will burst your mind away
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You don't have to wait that long.
I'm blown away at how fast the lastest custom roms are (the XLA3 ones).
Samsung keeps releasing new ROMS every couple of weeks, and the Note just gets better and better with each one.
- Frank
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Samsung keeps releasing new ROMS every couple of weeks, and the Note just gets better and better with each one.
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Exactly. Everyone knows that the S2 is currently a little bit snappier than the Note with stock ROMs. But the S2 has been out so much longer, so it's hardly surprising.
In a few weeks' time, the Note will be snappier on Gingerbread, let alone ICS.
You could say that manufacturers should get ROMs in better working order before they release the phones, but that's just the way software is moving in general (test out software on paying customers).
Alexforfun said:
It has been said millions of times...
The note has nearly twice the pixel of the s2 so it has to work much more for every frame...
Wait for ICS and the note will burst your mind away
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Note is pretty fast but ain't as smooth my dead S2. It's remarkable that Exynos can handle a large amount of pixels without slowing down that much.
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Remember the S2 has to power 800x480=384000 pixels. While the Note has to power 1280x800=1024000 pixels.
This is 2,666666 times more!
Benchmarks dont mean anything. my S2 can score twice higher but it performs worse.
hello guys..i heard that galaxy note and other samsung device are using an outdated GPU (Mali-400MP GPU)...so is it a little "fail" for our note to have an outdated GPU?plss give ur opinion.. thanks guys
..u can read the review about the GPU--> Here
It's so much faster than the sgx540 in the nexus it's ridiculous and since my choice was between those two I'm very happy with it.
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Check out the real world performances. Mali 400 outclasses Adreno 220 easily.
The weakpoint of Mali is geometry performance, but it does not matter much with mobiles until now as mobile games are not geometry heavy.
On the other hand, the OpenGL ES 2.x performance and real world performance of Mali is excellent.
With the clock speed of exynos in Note which actually gives much better real world performance with Mali 400 than even SGS2, it runs circles around Adreno 220 powered devices like sensation and even SGX540 powered devices.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
The above review is of SGS2. And mind you the performance of note is much better than SGS2. It is one of the most balanced GPUs on market with great gaming as well as multimedia performance (which actually matters more to someone like me.)
Funkym0nkey said:
Check out the real world performances. Mali 400 outclasses Adreno 220 easily.
The weakpoint of Mali is geometry performance, but it does not matter much with mobiles until now as mobile games are not geometry heavy.
On the other hand, the OpenGL ES 2.x performance and real world performance of Mali is excellent.
With the clock speed of exynos in Note which actually gives much better real world performance with Mali 400 than even SGS2, it runs circles around Adreno 220 powered devices like sensation and even SGX540 powered devices.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
The above review is of SGS2. And mind you the performance of note is much better than SGS2. It is one of the most balanced GPUs on market with great gaming as well as multimedia performance (which actually matters more to someone like me.)
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thanks for this info sir
although mali has been here for a very long time, it was well ahead of its time. and it still is i guess
anjath said:
although mali has been here for a very long time, it was well ahead of its time. and it still is i guess
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Yeah well Scott Adams is wayyyyyyy past his heyday (heck, even being relevant).... haven't read him since 2007 or so, when he started dabbling in intelligent design woo and sexist claptrap...
for being a heavy mobile gamer
i can assure you that the mali 400 on the note does very well with the latest games (asphalt7, dead trigger to name a few) despite having to compute for a much higher resolution display than other phones...
and with a little overclocking (tegrak app or gl notecore kernel) gpu performance can get sky high.
best phone i ever got :victory:
GAME ON said:
hello guys..i heard that galaxy note and other samsung device are using an outdated GPU (Mali-400MP GPU)...so is it a little "fail" for our note to have an outdated GPU?plss give ur opinion.. thanks guys
..u can read the review about the GPU--> Here
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The note was released ten months ago but still its gpu is better than all the others except sgs3 and and maybe one x..
Btw do you even own a note?? Did you every notice any lag in any game??
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The note was released ten months ago but still its gpu is better than all the others except sgs3 and and maybe one x..
Btw do you even own a note?? Did you every notice any lag in any game??
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The NOTE's and SGS3's GPU are the same.
However, the S3 is built on a smaller 32nm die-size, so it means it uses less space and less power for same performance. Samsung uses this advantage to clock the frequency much higher than the NOTE (which is built on a 45nm die).
Also, the S3 implements a new, updated driver for the gpu and squeezes more performance out. This was a same move Samsung made with the SGX540, which is also a very fast gpu. The original SGS was clocked real-low and had outdated drivers... after stealing the driver sources from the LG with OMAP 4440 SoC, the SGS (with 4.0.3) was performing in the same league as the 2011/2012 devices.
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The NOTE's and SGS3's GPU are the same.
However, the S3 is built on a smaller 32nm die-size, so it means it uses less space and less power for same performance. Samsung uses this advantage to clock the frequency much higher than the NOTE (which is built on a 45nm die).
Also, the S3 implements a new, updated driver for the gpu and squeezes more performance out. This was a same move Samsung made with the SGX540, which is also a very fast gpu. The original SGS was clocked real-low and had outdated drivers... after stealing the driver sources from the LG with OMAP 4440 SoC, the SGS (with 4.0.3) was performing in the same league as the 2011/2012 devices.
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I know that that both the note and sgs3 has same gpu.. But the one in sgs3 its more powerful cause you said it's overclocked and has better drivers..
Btw do you know why the mali in sgs3 gets so high benchmark scores even wih the 720p screen? I mean is it all due to oc and better drivers?
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I know that that both the note and sgs3 has same gpu.. But the one in sgs3 its more powerful cause you said it's overclocked and has better drivers..
Btw do you know why the mali in sgs3 gets so high benchmark scores even wih the 720p screen? I mean is it all due to oc and better drivers?
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Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
An easier way to understand is to look at the new RIM PlayBook.
It's got the same processor as the Gnex (Galaxy Nexus) however its much much faster, especially in browsing. It decimates it. It even decimates the ASUS Transformer Prime Infinity (O'C Tegra3 + ICS).... or the Nexus7 (U'C Tegra3 + JBean).
You are only as fast as your slowest component. In the case of Android, its the high-level (slow) implemented software.
= Getting a faster soc with more cores and more ram doesn't really increase performance that much.
Some serious thread necromancy going on here!
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Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
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By toe to toe with the one x do you mean benchmarks or real life perfomance..
Hey one thing more..aren't you a engadget reader?
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By toe to toe with the one x do you mean benchmarks or real life perfomance..
Hey one thing more..aren't you a engadget reader?
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Both.
But I don't live by the benchmarks. I mean have you tried some of the HD Apps from TegraZone. On stock TouchWizz, the NOTE really struggles. With a custom setup, I don't get much/any problems.
Yeah, I do frequent engadget... also on heaps of other sites.
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Both.
But I don't live by the benchmarks. I mean have you tried some of the HD Apps from TegraZone. On stock TouchWizz, the NOTE really struggles. With a custom setup, I don't get much/any problems.
Yeah, I do frequent engadget... also on heaps of other sites.
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Would you be kind enough to educate me about your setup?
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Better drivers + a little O'C makes the overwhelming difference.
I mean the NOTE comes with *only* 2 cores and *slow* gpu... after I customized it, its running toe-to-toe with the HTC One X (Tegra3).
An easier way to understand is to look at the new RIM PlayBook.
It's got the same processor as the Gnex (Galaxy Nexus) however its much much faster, especially in browsing. It decimates it. It even decimates the ASUS Transformer Prime Infinity (O'C Tegra3 + ICS).... or the Nexus7 (U'C Tegra3 + JBean).
You are only as fast as your slowest component. In the case of Android, its the high-level (slow) implemented software.
= Getting a faster soc with more cores and more ram doesn't really increase performance that much.
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Exactly. Even though the Playbook has its many flaws (owned two both with screen/USB issues) it was a powerhouse. Multimedia was outstanding and web surfing was by far the fastest.
But the OS, QNX, is to thank for that. If the Playbook was running android it would be nothing out of the ordinary. As much as I love Android it really is not as efficiant as QNX
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Recently I had a doubt about if it's possible to unlock the 2 locked remaining cores in the Galaxy Note N7000? Because I realize that the Note only uses 2 of the 4 GPU cores... It's there a possibility to do this? How?
i think mali 400 is a good GPU because Note1 and Note2 using it. and really nice GPU for gaming
Hi guys
I was planning to buy the Samsung Galaxy S Advance as my second phone, it has an dual core 1 Ghz ST-Ericsson U8500 CPU with a Mali 400 GPU from ARM with 768 MB of RAM. and other similar features like the S plus.
According to the stericsson website the U8500 chip supports 1080p video recording but on the gsmarena specs it shows 720p with 30fps (maybe someday could unlock the full hd feature )
The main reason i posted this thread was to ask about it's GPU performance, as it includes the same GPU from the S2.
Will the performance be the same as the S2 ? or somewhere around that ?
And what about the U8500's performance ?
Another Question
Are Dual cores really fast compared to a single core
I own a S plus which has a Qualcomm msm8255t 1.4 Ghz single core cpu, which i find quite fast, it runs CM9 very smoothly.
I'm also considering this phone, and I hope you don't mind I through in another question: is it true what they say that with this being "an upgrade to the Galaxy S" and only available on limited markets we don't have to expect much development and selection in custom ROMs?
I am considering either this, or a Motorola Atrix 4G and I really don't know what to choose...
I actually like it's design, it's somewhat like a mix between the S2 and Galaxy Nexus, more like a baby Nexus.
anyways this phone has great potential as it beats the galaxy R (see benchmarks at gsmarena)
I don't think that it'll get much attention by devs. It's not that the phone's slow, but there won't be as many users as other Galaxy S phones have. You can see what happened to S Plus: it's faster than the Galaxy S, but not even supported by Cyanogenmod, with a very small community. The simple reason why the Galaxy S has more users now than the advanced one will ever have, is that the S once was the best phone out and many people bought it. The Plus and Advanced aren't. They get 1/2 cores when already 2/4 are standard.
LOL i just bought the device it's real smooth was playing some hd games and the performance is really good, the mali 400mp is doing its job just fine and multitasking is pretty good
I don't know about Germany but this device seems to be getting quite popular here in India
nail16 said:
LOL i just bought the device it's real smooth was playing some hd games and the performance is really good, the mali 400mp is doing its job just fine and multitasking is pretty good
I don't know about Germany but this device seems to be getting quite popular here in India
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A friend got it... but he's Android noob .
I just looked on amazon - for 40€ more you get the S2. IMO it would be the better choice. More RAM, faster, awesome cam. Why didn't you buy it?
I will rather buy S2. I learn my lesson with i9001.
In Croatia "S Advance" is on T-Mobile more than 200£ cheaper SII, therefor I don't see a reason not to buy it, except that it probably will not get much attention from developers.
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I just looked on amazon - for 40€ more you get the S2. IMO it would be the better choice. More RAM, faster, awesome cam. Why didn't you buy it?
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there's quite a big difference in the price between the advance and the S2, so i chose the Advance over the S2. (and also i liked its nexus like curve, the curved display looks really cool)
Anyways the phone is performing well, for the first time i could play GTA 3 (v1.3) with full graphics without any lags.
and now have started enjoying gaming.
I don't regret buying this phone, maybe when samsung releases ics for the phone it will perform similar to the S2
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there's quite a big difference in the price between the advance and the S2, so i chose the Advance over the S2. (and also i liked its nexus like curve, the curved display looks really cool)
Anyways the phone is performing well, for the first time i could play GTA 3 (v1.3) with full graphics without any lags.
and now have started enjoying gaming.
I don't regret buying this phone, maybe when samsung releases ics for the phone it will perform similar to the S2
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Nah, if you get past 300€, 40€ aren't a big difference. With the S2, you can replace your cam with the phone, with Advanced you can't take usefull pics. And just look at the awesome dev support. I think Sammy only released the Advanced because of the big critic, that none of the Galaxy S devices gets ICS. Now they can say 'upgrade to advanced' and make money with their bad support. But in the end it's your decision .
I know S2 is a better device but i still liked the look of the Advance, and was quite curious about the new NovaThor chipset
and btw there ain't no news of ICS for the galaxy Advance (I'm starting to worry now )
The phone seems to have some very nice motion controls (like when you double tap on the top of the phone it activates voice search, and the tilt to zoom function)
I'm confused between s advanced and Xperia arc S (both of them at same price ) but i'm scared to get s advance duo to lake of support/deve so what do u think about that nail16??
Xperia Arc S has the same configuration as the galaxy s plus so it's a single core device and has a adreno 205 (the gpu kinda sucks)
I say go for the Advance don't worry about the dev support, it seems to be a powerful phone it will soon be recognized by the devs
Ihope so =D
Theres No XDA support for the phone. So its a big no actually !!
In india also its not that famous :O..!!
Great phone,
you can buy it closed eyes
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27198182#post27198182
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If this device gets a forum,
I will make Kernels and if time permits , ROMs also..
You can check my work in my signature..
Original post here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html
I love my Incredible S. But damn you Google, that offer is unbeatable.
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Original post here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html
I love my Incredible S. But damn you Google, that offer is unbeatable.
@Mod: if it is not allow to post here, then I am sorry. Plz delete this thread. I don't mean to spam the forum.
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AWESOME! Gf is getting me the Nexus 10 for Xmas, and I'll buy myself a Nexus 4 around the same time! 2560x1600 10" display, here I come! :highfive:
Never thought that the price would be so unbeatable! Maaan, why did I buy a Galaxy Nexus?
Oh for the love of god! What is with the lack of expandable storage in Nexus devices? I mean, this looks like the perfect device for me, but that lack of an SD Card is a real killer. 16 gig maximum storage, and no option to upgrade? What is this, an iPhone?
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Oh for the love of god! What is with the lack of expandable storage in Nexus devices? I mean, this looks like the perfect device for me, but that lack of an SD Card is a real killer. 16 gig maximum storage, and no option to upgrade? What is this, an iPhone?
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Yeah, I know. My 32GB SD card has only 10GB free.
I only ever use around 6gb I clean up my stuff a lot.
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ZaySk said:
AWESOME! Gf is getting me the Nexus 10 for Xmas, and I'll buy myself a Nexus 4 around the same time! 2560x1600 10" display, here I come! :highfive:
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No offence but having a Nexus 7 now, I think it would be a bit boring to have two AOSP devices. Especially coming from sense I used to have AOSP before my N7, but now I only use sense on my IncS
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I only ever use around 6gb I clean up my stuff a lot.
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Same here, I used an 8GB for about half a year before upgrading to 16GB. Never had a problem with space, I just delete apps I don't use and clean out junk folders. I also backup important stuff on my SD card, and then format it every couple of months to keep it clean.
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No offence but having a Nexus 7 now, I think it would be a bit boring to have two AOSP devices. Especially coming from sense I used to have AOSP before my N7, but now I only use sense on my IncS
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While you do have a good point, I've never liked Sense or other skins anyways. Given the choice, I'd always choose an AOSP ROM over a Sense ROM. Pretty much the only reason I'm using a Sense ROM is because it's stable. Sense ROM's are fun to play around with for something new, but I quickly get bored of the limited options available in Rosie and uninstall it and replace it with Apex Launcher. Even tweaked Sense bores me, plus Sense is pretty heavy and I always feel like AOSP is noticeably smoother.
Plus, with a Nexus, I wouldn't have to put up with half-assed, hacked together AOSP ROM's. No offense to any devs! It's just stupid that some things related to a device (drivers, company proprietary libs etc) are never available and have to be hacked to work. I hate that, it's very annoying. With a Nexus, I don't have to worry about that. (I think?...)
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Same here, I used an 8GB for about half a year before upgrading to 16GB. Never had a problem with space, I just delete apps I don't use and clean out junk folders. I also backup important stuff on my SD card, and then format it every couple of months to keep it clean.
While you do have a good point, I've never liked Sense or other skins anyways. Given the choice, I'd always choose an AOSP ROM over a Sense ROM. Pretty much the only reason I'm using a Sense ROM is because it's stable. Sense ROM's are fun to play around with for something new, but I quickly get bored of the limited options available in Rosie and uninstall it and replace it with Apex Launcher. Even tweaked Sense bores me, plus Sense is pretty heavy and I always feel like AOSP is noticeably smoother.
Plus, with a Nexus, I wouldn't have to put up with half-assed, hacked together AOSP ROM's. No offense to any devs! It's just stupid that some things related to a device (drivers, company proprietary libs etc) are never available and have to be hacked to work. I hate that, it's very annoying. With a Nexus, I don't have to worry about that. (I think?...)
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I have a 16gb N7 and 16gb card in my phone, they get filled with backups of roms lol
I use dropbox and I have a USB OTG cable for all the haevy stuff like movies
I completely agree with your statement on AOSP roms and their stability. While some roms are quite good and fast, none can match a proper AOSP device, like a nexus. None. My N7 is super fast and I underclock it to 1.15GHz to save battery
This is the reason I might be going Sony next: their roms are quite AOSP-like and their source is similar to AOSP, no big changes like Samsung and HTC
Most AOSP and other JB roms for other devices (I mean custom roms) do not have proper project butter working, eg. CM10 on the exynos devices because there is no proper source for drivers and stuff. Although this might change with the Nexus 10
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I have a 16gb N7 and 16gb card in my phone, they get filled with backups of roms lol
I use dropbox and I have a USB OTG cable for all the haevy stuff like movies
I completely agree with your statement on AOSP roms and their stability. While some roms are quite good and fast, none can match a proper AOSP device, like a nexus. None. My N7 is super fast and I underclock it to 1.15GHz to save battery
This is the reason I might be going Sony next: their roms are quite AOSP-like and their source is similar to AOSP, no big changes like Samsung and HTC
Most AOSP and other JB roms for other devices (I mean custom roms) do not have proper project butter working, eg. CM10 on the exynos devices because there is no proper source for drivers and stuff. Although this might change with the Nexus 10
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I used to have a crapload of backups as well, but I realized it would be more efficient to simply keep one backup of my favorite ROM at the time. I try to keep that one backup as current as possible. I gotta get an external HDD to store my music and movies as well
Yes we did have some great devs working on AOSP for our device, and they did a damn great job IMO. It's just the company that limits how good AOSP ROM's are due to not releasing sources for certain components, forcing the community to resort to hacks and other trickery to get it working properly. Damn it must be nice to be able to actually underclock without creating a laggy device. I feel like it's absolutely necessary to OC the Inc S to 1.3 GHz on AOSP, and 1.4-5GHz on Sense, in order to get a decent experience. Not that big of a deal, seeing as there were quite a few phones released with the same SoC as ours, but ran at 1.4GHz stock so the SoC can obviously handle the OC, luckily.
I'm strongly considering Sony as well, if they release a device by Xmas that has at least an S4 Pro SoC, preferably a true Cortex A-15 based SoC. They seem to be one of few companies that really do open up their phones completely for the community, and that's pretty much the #1 most important decision that will decide what phone I get.
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I used to have a crapload of backups as well, but I realized it would be more efficient to simply keep one backup of my favorite ROM at the time. I try to keep that one backup as current as possible. I gotta get an external HDD to store my music and movies as well
Yes we did have some great devs working on AOSP for our device, and they did a damn great job IMO. It's just the company that limits how good AOSP ROM's are due to not releasing sources for certain components, forcing the community to resort to hacks and other trickery to get it working properly. Damn it must be nice to be able to actually underclock without creating a laggy device. I feel like it's absolutely necessary to OC the Inc S to 1.3 GHz on AOSP, and 1.4-5GHz on Sense, in order to get a decent experience. Not that big of a deal, seeing as there were quite a few phones released with the same SoC as ours, but ran at 1.4GHz stock so the SoC can obviously handle the OC, luckily.
I'm strongly considering Sony as well, if they release a device by Xmas that has at least an S4 Pro SoC, preferably a true Cortex A-15 based SoC. They seem to be one of few companies that really do open up their phones completely for the community, and that's pretty much the #1 most important decision that will decide what phone I get.
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Wow I keep mine at 1024MHz all the time. I overclock it to 1.4 sometimes when I play heavy games but that is it. I don't think my N7 has ever seen past 1.4GHz, when I was testing one of faux123's kernels
I think Sony might wait until MWC next year in Jan or whenever it is, because they just released new phones. But I don't need top performance on my phone anymore, I use it for calling, texting, xda-ing and a bit of internet. I play games and do more processor-intensive things on my Nexus 7
Did you guys see this video? It makes me want to buy one next
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
I like the look of it, and the hardware. And of course the charger *drools*
I hope they'll release a 32gb model :/
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Ihad considered this but in England LG does not have the best reputation so I tend to stay away. Also, the HOX+ is meant to have one of the better cameras around and I don't know how is feel if the N4 cam isn't as good. I've also became a fan of sense .....
However, I am deffo getting the N10 device. I'll probs get it after Xmas when the initial rush has gone. Then I can read my magazines, books and general browsing easyier than on a phone.
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I worry that these Nexus devices may start a president with regards to lack of removable storage. I understand Google's thinking behind using the Cloud as a portable storage medium, but my 500mb a month contract means downloading/streaming anything over data is pretty much out of the question. And living in the sticks means my data connection is flaky most of the time anyway. Until the price of truly 'unlimited' data plans drops considerably, and until coverage becomes better for non-built up areas, cloud storage is pointless for me.
I also notice there's no support for LTE on this device, but given the price that's hardly an issue.
Think I'll be waiting for the 32gb model to.
For me 16GB is totally enough. I had 8GB for a year and it was a bit too less but now I have 16GB on my GNex and I never get it even close to full So no Cloud stuff for me
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For me 16GB is totally enough. I had 8GB for a year and it was a bit too less but now I have 16GB on my GNex and I never get it even close to full So no Cloud stuff for me
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Well for me, I like to download videos like anime and comedy sketches, I guess that's why I need lots of space. And maybe because I have The Dark Knight Rises, Order & Chaos Online in my phone :/
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Wow I keep mine at 1024MHz all the time. I overclock it to 1.4 sometimes when I play heavy games but that is it. I don't think my N7 has ever seen past 1.4GHz, when I was testing one of faux123's kernels
I think Sony might wait until MWC next year in Jan or whenever it is, because they just released new phones. But I don't need top performance on my phone anymore, I use it for calling, texting, xda-ing and a bit of internet. I play games and do more processor-intensive things on my Nexus 7
Did you guys see this video? It makes me want to buy one next
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
I like the look of it, and the hardware. And of course the charger *drools*
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I hate it when there's noticeable lag, and I've always been picky about the performance of all my technological devices lol. I'm actually running my CPU at 1.5GHz right now on smartassv2. I still get good battery life despite the big OC, and I haven't noticed any instability at all. Also helps that I UV'ed 50mv I've always preferred performance over battery life. I'd rather have a snappy device that dies an hour quicker, than a slightly laggy device that lasts longer.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate. But I really want that Nexus 4, especially at that price! I'll be honest, I love google right now. They're pushing the boundaries(in a good way) on pricing for top end devices, and I f**king love it!
Dat S4 Pro Quad....WANT
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I hate it when there's noticeable lag, and I've always been picky about the performance of all my technological devices lol. I'm actually running my CPU at 1.5GHz right now on smartassv2. I still get good battery life despite the big OC, and I haven't noticed any instability at all. Also helps that I UV'ed 50mv I've always preferred performance over battery life. I'd rather have a snappy device that dies an hour quicker, than a slightly laggy device that lasts longer.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate. But I really want that Nexus 4, especially at that price! I'll be honest, I love google right now. They're pushing the boundaries(in a good way) on pricing for top end devices, and I f**king love it!
Dat S4 Pro Quad....WANT
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I hardly have any lag with my settings now
Mine can't handle any UV at 1.4GHz I noticed that while playing shadowgun, it kept freezing and not responding to anything but a battery pull
The only other thing that might keep me away is no 4G Hopefully the camera is a beast
Yeah the S4 quad looks really good. I can get the same performance with my N7 running at those speeds, but no way near the efficiency. I am also interested in the audio chip, because the S4 one is supposed to be really good, compared to the Tegra 3 one.
l0st.prophet has been very active in the N4 forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us end up there. There is already an ex-desire S user off topic thread lol
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I hardly have any lag with my settings now
Mine can't handle any UV at 1.4GHz I noticed that while playing shadowgun, it kept freezing and not responding to anything but a battery pull
The only other thing that might keep me away is no 4G Hopefully the camera is a beast
Yeah the S4 quad looks really good. I can get the same performance with my N7 running at those speeds, but no way near the efficiency. I am also interested in the audio chip, because the S4 one is supposed to be really good, compared to the Tegra 3 one.
l0st.prophet has been very active in the N4 forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us end up there. There is already an ex-desire S user off topic thread lol
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I still notice lag even at 1.5GHz sometimes. Annoying. Hmm that's strange, even at 1.5GHz I don't have any instabilities with UV. I really want to upgrade, to me the Inc S is showing its age internally. Especially in RAM, 2GB of RAM will be heaven. Still in love with the gorgeous color saturation in the screen though!
Meh, 4G isn't to big a deal for me. I have it available in Whitehorse, but HSPA+ is good enough for when I don't have wifi. I just can't resist the price, and I'm thinking about going on pay-as-you-go instead of the ass-rapingly expensive contracts. I practically never call anyone (who does these days?) so I only need data.
The S4 Pro's GPU especially looks very promising. Much better than the Mali 400 in the Exynos 4 series, according to early reports. Plus it's as close as I'll get to a Cortex A15 cpu That's great news, I was hoping the N4 would have a decent audio chip.
Hehe, let's all conspire to take over the N4 forums. All Inc S user's at once abandon this device, and move full force into the N4 forums! :silly::victory: Seriously though, the more people that come from this great community to the N4 forums, the better. :good:
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I still notice lag even at 1.5GHz sometimes. Annoying. Hmm that's strange, even at 1.5GHz I don't have any instabilities with UV. I really want to upgrade, to me the Inc S is showing its age internally. Especially in RAM, 2GB of RAM will be heaven. Still in love with the gorgeous color saturation in the screen though!
Meh, 4G isn't to big a deal for me. I have it available in Whitehorse, but HSPA+ is good enough for when I don't have wifi. I just can't resist the price, and I'm thinking about going on pay-as-you-go instead of the ass-rapingly expensive contracts. I practically never call anyone (who does these days?) so I only need data.
The S4 Pro's GPU especially looks very promising. Much better than the Mali 400 in the Exynos 4 series, according to early reports. Plus it's as close as I'll get to a Cortex A15 cpu That's great news, I was hoping the N4 would have a decent audio chip.
Hehe, let's all conspire to take over the N4 forums. All Inc S user's at once abandon this device, and move full force into the N4 forums! :silly::victory: Seriously though, the more people that come from this great community to the N4 forums, the better. :good:
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That's not fair Oh well, you use 1.5 more than I do I think its processor is showing its age. Some things I am used to using my N7 for, and the IncS is THAT much slower at doing things. But on Venom, everything is super smooth Same with your rom actually, although I used the ultra smooth rosie (I am too on Venom)
I am thinking about getting off a contract too, and buying the phone outright. But, when you add both up it would probably be cheaper still to go on a plan here, for maybe $50 a month or whatever they will give the N4 away free on
Yes, the GPU is a monster, apparently it smashes the Tegra 3 which has a massive GPU, super powered. The Tegra 3 is soo powerful, even at the underclocked speeds I have it at now, I can't actually imagine what you could do with more power at this time.
Don't abandon this device because I am staying here until May next year!
Here you go, I made a quick video for Antutu X Benchmark between both devices ( Snap and Exynos )
Lets guess which device ( which CPU ) on left and right while watching this clip and then you have your answer.
Video was captured with an iphone 5 ( YEAH I know, Samsung is gonna be p*ssed LOL ).
Enjoy!
That answers my question somewhat, so the 5422 has a slight edge on the first benchmark, yet lost the second ,making it 1 to 1, but the s801 finished the test first on both testes.
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Are all 8 cores running on the 5422 version?
Wow, you really have both version?
Please make full comparison especially speed/tw , battery and camera.
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Are all 8 cores running on the 5422 version?
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I dont think so. Maybe the 64 bit will
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That answers my question somewhat, so the 5422 has a slight edge on the first benchmark, yet lost the second ,making it 1 to 1, but the s801 finished the test first on both testes.
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The 5422 in general i felt very very smooth. major problem is still there: its hot!
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I dont think so. Maybe the 64 bit will
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Interesting... in Barcelona Samsung announced that the 5422 will support Heterogeneous Multi Processing allowing all 8 cores to run if necessary. The Note 3 Neo's 5260 can run all 6, so the S5 5422 may need an update, or benchmark tools need it, what do you think, @AndreiLux?
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Interesting... in Barcelona Samsung announced that the 5422 will support Heterogeneous Multi Processing allowing all 8 cores to run if necessary. The Note 3 Neo's 5260 can run all 6, so the S5 5422 may need an update, or benchmark tools need it, what do you think, @AndreiLux?
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I got a chance to played with it for half a day but its damn hot while running bench. not so sure if it ran with all eight cores at once. Gotta check again 2mo. But imo, the Exynos is very smooth. But the camera on Exynos version is not so good. Dont know why Even i took a few shots and compare with the LG G2, the G2 beats it with much better quality
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I got a chance to played with it for half a day but its damn hot while running bench. not so sure if it ran with all eight cores at once. Gotta check again 2mo. But imo, the Exynos is very smooth. But the camera on Exynos version is not so good. Dont know why Even i took a few shots and compare with the LG G2, the G2 beats it with much better quality
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So you say the camera on the Exynos is better?
Also how about the headphone sound quality, any differences, if so which sounds better
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Interesting... in Barcelona Samsung announced that the 5422 will support Heterogeneous Multi Processing allowing all 8 cores to run if necessary. The Note 3 Neo's 5260 can run all 6, so the S5 5422 may need an update, or benchmark tools need it, what do you think, @AndreiLux?
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It's running HMP...
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It's running HMP...
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Hi sir,
Then are you gonna support it...I mean Exynos ver. Now its prefect to add your tweaks in it
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Right now honestly HMP seems a bit far-fetched. Most app developers don't even use more than 1 thread for their apps. Waste of battery imo.
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It's running HMP...
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Thank you Andrei! So can it run all 8 cores right now, does it depend on Samsung or the apps?
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Right now honestly HMP seems a bit far-fetched. Most app developers don't even use more than 1 thread for their apps. Waste of battery imo.
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The point of HMP is load balancing between the cores. It still has advantages even in low threaded apps. The cores are powered off when not doing anything.
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Thank you Andrei! So can it run all 8 cores right now, does it depend on Samsung or the apps?
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It depends on nothing specifically. If load is sufficiently high and threaded it'll use all 8.
I think Antutu is finishing the tests slower than the Snapdragon because it's dispatching twice the threads and doing twice the work, it would score higher if it actually didn't do that.
And no I'm not getting it, the S5 will be outdated in a few months.
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The point of HMP is load balancing between the cores. It still has advantages even in low threaded apps. The cores are powered off when not doing anything.
It depends on nothing specifically. If load is sufficiently high and threaded it'll use all 8.
I think Antutu is finishing the tests slower than the Snapdragon because it's dispatching twice the threads and doing twice the work, it would score higher if it actually didn't do that.
And no I'm not getting it, the S5 will be outdated in a few months.
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Its coming up for real, the F
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AndreiLux said:
The point of HMP is load balancing between the cores. It still has advantages even in low threaded apps. The cores are powered off when not doing anything.
It depends on nothing specifically. If load is sufficiently high and threaded it'll use all 8.
I think Antutu is finishing the tests slower than the Snapdragon because it's dispatching twice the threads and doing twice the work, it would score higher if it actually didn't do that.
And no I'm not getting it, the S5 will be outdated in a few months.
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I also found that the HMP wherether its running or not, its not so right. Even though its very smooth, but well, its not so different from the 801 version. Also its HOT. I just felt its incompleted
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I also found that the HMP wherether its running or not, its not so right. Even though its very smooth, but well, its not so different from the 801 version. Also its HOT. I just felt its incompleted
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Depends on the thermal throttling settings between the two, Samsung changed the limits several times on both versions of the S4 so expect the same to happen here.
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Depends on the thermal throttling settings between the two, Samsung changed the limits several times on both versions of the S4 so expect the same to happen here.
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Probably we have to wait for S6 for the HMP to mature also we'll for your support as well Andrei :good:
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Its coming up for real, the F
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You mean the Galaxy F?
This could be it I think: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/04/03/samsung-sm-g906s-with-qhd-2560x1440-screen-appears-in-benchmark/
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So you say the camera on the Exynos is better?
Also how about the headphone sound quality, any differences, if so which sounds better
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No, the same for both models really. Sound quality is the same, still Samsung quality. But both have AptX so it wont be a big problem Both external speakers are the same, 1 word: shjt! I wish the speakers werent in the back