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Moto G EXT?

I saw the Moto G EXT on Consumer Cellular website.
https://www.consumercellular.com/Info/PhoneDetails/619
It looks exactly the same as Moto G (2014). Doesn't anyone know the exact model number on it? Is it the same as the XT1064? Thanks.

macaumen said:
I saw the Moto G EXT on Consumer Cellular website.
It looks exactly the same as Moto G (2014). Doesn't anyone know the exact model number on it? Is it the same as the XT1064? Thanks.
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Just got my moto g ext today. I can confirm that the model on the back reads xt1064 , fcc id IHD56QB2 type: M0FBB

diamondjoker5 said:
Just got my moto g ext today. I can confirm that the model on the back reads xt1064 , fcc id IHD56QB2 type: M0FBB
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Hi diamondjoker5 - does that Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular have much bloat on it?
I'm a new Consumer Cellular customer and was thinking about getting a Moto G 2014 for my wife. I'd like to ensure timely Android updates and was going to get an unlocked phone directly from Motorola. I don't know if Consumer Cellular will slow down that update process or not.
The only Consumer Cellular app that I'm aware of is My Consumer Cellular, which is actually pretty useful for their customers.

GaryP2 said:
Hi diamondjoker5 - does that Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular have much bloat on it?
I'm a new Consumer Cellular customer and was thinking about getting a Moto G 2014 for my wife. I'd like to ensure timely Android updates and was going to get an unlocked phone directly from Motorola. I don't know if Consumer Cellular will slow down that update process or not.
The only Consumer Cellular app that I'm aware of is My Consumer Cellular, which is actually pretty useful for their customers.
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Only thing I see on here is all gapps, + motorola alert app, motorola assist app, motorola migration app, and my consumer cellular app.
Just got the phone unlocked for $2.19 yesterday. Tmobile sim works without any problems.
The real question is what stock rom do you flash it with?
Android 4.4.4
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Android 4.4.4
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diamondjoker5 said:
Just got the phone unlocked for $2.19 yesterday. Tmobile sim works without any problems.
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Thanks for the quick update!
What do you do to get the phone unlocked for $2.19?
The other question I'm trying to chase an answer down on is if apps will be able to be moved to SD memory once 5.0 Lollipop comes along. No one may be able to answer that question until after it's released.

GaryP2 said:
Thanks for the quick update!
What do you do to get the phone unlocked for $2.19?
The other question I'm trying to chase an answer down on is if apps will be able to be moved to SD memory once 5.0 Lollipop comes along. No one may be able to answer that question until after it's released.
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I used one of the ebay sellers that offer unlocking services. They go through unlock scout as the provider. Took a couple of hours to get the unlock code.
PM me if you need more details.
From what i remember, once rooted i was able to use link2sd to force move apps and data to sd card on my previous phones.

diamondjoker5 said:
Only thing I see on here is all gapps, + motorola alert app, motorola assist app, motorola migration app, and my consumer cellular app.
Just got the phone unlocked for $2.19 yesterday. Tmobile sim works without any problems.
The real question is what stock rom do you flash it with?
Android 4.4.4
Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US 497.1 MiB B44FFE73058EBB8B85C853151F8C3E36
DOWNLOAD
299
Android 4.4.4
Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuglb.retuglb.en.US 497.1 MiB A3FD7C860F59319E6811BC3AD4086D19
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supposely the AWS one

Was thinking of one of these for my son. They are on Sears site for $133 now.
How is the data speed on T-Mobile, I think it's more optimized for HSPA AT&T so H2O would likely work better.

Can you provide a link of ebay seller through which you have got Moto G - unlocked ?
diamondjoker5 said:
I used one of the ebay sellers that offer unlocking services. They go through unlock scout as the provider. Took a couple of hours to get the unlock code.
PM me if you need more details.
From what i remember, once rooted i was able to use link2sd to force move apps and data to sd card on my previous phones.
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Can you provide a link of ebay seller through which you have got Moto G - unlocked ?

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Can you provide a link of ebay seller through which you have got Moto G - unlocked ?
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I used this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTOROLA-...G-/151207502909?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123
Took a bit because Sunday.

AWS rom/modem details?
macaumen said:
supposely the AWS one
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Can I request a little more info regarding AWS portion? Which exact ROM/modem combo has it? Anyone who recently got Consumer Cellular model and using unlocked with T-mobile can provide an input? Thanks again.

Just wanted to share my experience to help others. I bought the Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular and it is the exact same hardware as the unlocked Moto G 2nd Gen my wife has. The firmware/ROM is different than the unlocked version. As others have mentioned there really isn't much bloat or anything too crazy. Some features such as tethering have been removed from the settings and the Consumer Cellular app is pre-installed an you cannot remove it. There were some other minor things locked down but nothing major or intrusive.
I wanted to just get the stock image on there just because. Also since there were some changes to the firmware (like removing tethering) I wasn't sure how quickly CC would be updating to Lollipop and wanted to be able to update as soon as I could. I got my unlock code from Motorola and unlocked the bootloader (which to be clear is different than the SIM unlock code mentioned in earlier posts).
I was able to get the Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US firmware installed and everything works as expected; I was back to stock and couldn't find any differences between my phone and my wife's. My only caveat was I was not able to re-lock the bootloader after installing the stock firmware. I thought I would be able too since it would be a stock, signed image from Motorola but I kept getting errors on the phone saying "Failed to validate System Image" and an error on the command line stating "sst lock failure!"
I tried a couple different ways to lock it but never could. I am not sure if I have to get the original firmware from Consumer cellular (I wasn't able to find it) to be able to lock it again, but I am assuming that is what is needed. I forgot to write down the original firmware name was but I know it was different than the System Version that now displays so it must have been a special CC build. Even if I had it I am not sure where I could find it. I searched for a little bit without luck but it is a pretty new phone from CC so maybe with time it will show up.
It isn't that big of a deal to me to run with an unlocked bootloader, but I sort of wish I would have just paid the extra $30 or so and got the unlocked one from Best Buy or Amazon instead of the Moto G EXT from CC so I could lock it if I wanted/needed to.

I got a great deal on the moto g ext at sears for $112(using coupons and surprise points)and $29 shwy points back. The system version is 21.11.23.titan_ccaws_AWSCC.en.US cc, build number KXB21.85-23. The original moto g had instructions stickied in the general forum on how to flash stock firmware without unlocking bootlocker using mfastboot. Could I use those instructions to flash retail firmware for the moto g 2014? Is there stock firmware available for the moto g 2014(xt 1064)? . Any help would be appreciated . My main reason is to get tether option in the settings which is missing from consumer cellular ROM and be able to receive updates from motorola.

@bellj949 Can you please link to a guide that can be used to install the generic firmware on the consumer cellular version?
@edog11 were you able to find a way to flash without unlocking bootloader?

Trekker56 said:
@bellj949 Can you please link to a guide that can be used to install the generic firmware on the consumer cellular version?
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I used this FAQ for most of my info about this process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/wip-frequently-questions-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875723 - and there is a link specifically to this page in that FAQ - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/restore-to-stock-t2873657. Some of the flashes got errors on the phone but it all worked just fine even though I received the errors. Wish I would have noted all the different messages on the phone and command line for reference. Now I have my phone setup like I want and don't want to have to go through everything again. Once Lollipop is available for the Moto G 2014 I will be going through the same process and will take better notes.
I have the single SIM US GSM Moto G 2014 (XT1064) so I downloaded the Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US firmware from - http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 - instead of using the link from the guide. If you have a different model you will need a different firmware. Remove the battery cover to find which XTnnnn version you have.
As noted above once you do this you will not be able to re-lock the bootloader. Or maybe I am doing something wrong and that is why I am not able to re-lock. If anyone was able to relock the CC version with the stock firmware please share your steps!

Trekker56 said:
@bellj949 Can you please link to a guide that can be used to install the generic firmware on the consumer cellular version?
@edog11 were you able to find a way to flash without unlocking bootloader?
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I think you can use the same instructions given for moto g 1st generation and use the moto g 2nd genetation retail AWS firmware. I may wait until there is a consumer cellular firmware for the moto g 2nd generation available in case something goes wrong.
If someone wants to try, here's is link for flashing stock firmware for moto g 1st generation without unlocking bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Here is moto g 2nd generation firmware.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36

Thank you both. Although I have previously rooted and flashed various android phones and tablets, I think I will wait till there is a strong development community for the Moto G, which will be able to help if anything goes wrong during flashing.
I just hope that once Motorola releases the Lollipop update, Consumer Cellular won't be that far behind. Or I'll just flash it at time if Consumer Cellular are lagging behind in update.

Trekker56 said:
Thank you both. Although I have previously rooted and flashed various android phones and tablets, I think I will wait till there is a strong development community for the Moto G, which will be able to help if anything goes wrong during flashing.
I just hope that once Motorola releases the Lollipop update, Consumer Cellular won't be that far behind. Or I'll just flash it at time if Consumer Cellular are lagging behind in update.
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I sent an email to CC to see if they will be upgrading to Lollipop and if so how soon. This is the response I received:
"At this time, Consumer Cellular does not support updates for any Android phones that we sell. Upgrading the Operating System on your phone would void the warranty."
I'm wasn't sure if they are saying they do not provide support if I upgrade the phone or if they were saying they will not be upgrading to Lollipop. So I sent another email to verify that they will not be updating the OS and pushing an OTA update to the phone. This is the response I received:
"At this time, Consumer Cellular does not support updates for any Android device that we sell."
It doesn't sounds like they have any plans to upgrade the phone.

That is just too bad.
Now I'll just wait till we have the official Lollipop on the Moto G and then flash the generic unlocked ROM. Keeping it stock till then in case I need to claim warranty.
And to get the official updates from Motorola, all I have to do is to flash the unlocked rom as mentioned by the guide by @bellj949 and I will start getting the OTA updates automatically or will I need to flash the Lollipop rom manually?

bellj949 said:
Just wanted to share my experience to help others. I bought the Moto G EXT from Consumer Cellular and it is the exact same hardware as the unlocked Moto G 2nd Gen my wife has. The firmware/ROM is different than the unlocked version. As others have mentioned there really isn't much bloat or anything too crazy. Some features such as tethering have been removed from the settings and the Consumer Cellular app is pre-installed an you cannot remove it. There were some other minor things locked down but nothing major or intrusive.
I wanted to just get the stock image on there just because. Also since there were some changes to the firmware (like removing tethering) I wasn't sure how quickly CC would be updating to Lollipop and wanted to be able to update as soon as I could. I got my unlock code from Motorola and unlocked the bootloader (which to be clear is different than the SIM unlock code mentioned in earlier posts).
I was able to get the Blur_Version.21.11.17.titan_retuaws.retuaws.en.US firmware installed and everything works as expected; I was back to stock and couldn't find any differences between my phone and my wife's. My only caveat was I was not able to re-lock the bootloader after installing the stock firmware. I thought I would be able too since it would be a stock, signed image from Motorola but I kept getting errors on the phone saying "Failed to validate System Image" and an error on the command line stating "sst lock failure!"
I tried a couple different ways to lock it but never could. I am not sure if I have to get the original firmware from Consumer cellular (I wasn't able to find it) to be able to lock it again, but I am assuming that is what is needed. I forgot to write down the original firmware name was but I know it was different than the System Version that now displays so it must have been a special CC build. Even if I had it I am not sure where I could find it. I searched for a little bit without luck but it is a pretty new phone from CC so maybe with time it will show up.
It isn't that big of a deal to me to run with an unlocked bootloader, but I sort of wish I would have just paid the extra $30 or so and got the unlocked one from Best Buy or Amazon instead of the Moto G EXT from CC so I could lock it if I wanted/needed to.
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CC version is 21.11.23 while the retail verions is 21.11.17. Probably that's why you cannot flash without unlocking the bootloader because the phone sees it as a "downgrade"
Unlocked Moto G 2014 is getting the update today. Is anyone with the CC rom getting the update yet? How about those with stock XT1063 rom and unlocked bootloader, do you get the update?

[Q] AT&T XT1058 can i flash it to a generic rom?

Hi, I got an AT&T XT1058 from ebay. I'm in teh UK so I'd really like to flash it with a stock UK ROM. I've had a look on here and with the huge amount of info I can't figure out if this is possible and which rom to use. it's 4.4.2 that's on the phone at teh moment which i believe can't be downgraded or unlocked easily, is that right?
any help would be greatly appreciated
cheers

To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
Once you use sunshine, you can flash 3rd party recoveries, roms, etc.
While I have NOT done it, I've seen posts of ATT US Xt1058 owners flashing with Parts of the XT1053 rom to remove bloat, etc. (flashing the modems will likely change which wireless bands the phone can connect to). I do not advise flashing another carrier's rom. It could get messy, especially around UPDATE time. And I've seen some lose Cellular and WIFI flashing the wrong modem files.
One final thing. The ATT US XT1058 is SIM/Carrier locked too. So in order to use a non-ATT SIM in it you'll need to obtain a SIM unlock code. You should be able to get this from any web site selling unlock codes on the internet.

KidJoe said:
To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
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hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again

hardflipman said:
hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again
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To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
Sunshine, which doesn't work with 4.4.4. However you can always try it since it wont charge you if it doesn't work. (i.e. it checks your phone, if it will work, if wont, it tells you and exits without charging you).
4.4.4 can't be temp rooted either.
So you are pretty much stuck stock ATT, and then just get it sim unlocked to use it with your carrier.

KidJoe said:
To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
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thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try. I'd really like to get rid of the ATT address book, the fact that it perpetually shows as 4g connection and have the phone speak to me in a not american accent!
cheers

the same here
at&t xt1058 with stock android 4.4.4 (ota updated from 4.4.2)
system version 212.44.26.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
build no KXA21.12-L1.26
been using this phone in Europe, Greece with another carriers SIM card
everything ok, except for the LTE bands (in Greece I need bands 3,7,20) and the AT&T bloatware i wanna remove
would like to root, but i'm not able to unlock via motorola's website
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks

hardflipman said:
thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try.
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cxp7 said:
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks
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As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.

KidJoe said:
As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.
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I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?

MadPriest said:
I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?
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For the Rogers XT1058, Moto does offer the Bootloader Unlock code for free from their web site -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth it will void your warranty
The GSM Dev Edtion is the XT1053. It has different radio/modem files, its hardware supports different bands (less LTE bands). I never recommend flashing another model's ROM as we have seen loss of cellular in some cases, where even flashing the original firmware back didn't fix.
Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).

KidJoe said:
Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).
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Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me

MadPriest said:
Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me
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Only if you can't unlock your boot loader. But as I said, moto does give out the unlock codes on their web site for the Rogers xt1058
Also, without unlocking the boot loader, you can only flash the rom for your phone model and its carrier branding.

I see
Thank you for the answers
I knew the second part, was not sure about the first one.
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Free mobile app

[Q] Moto X 2013 Network questions

I'm about to buy a used Moto X XT1060 in a couple of days. I understand thats the Verizon variant of the phone.
I wanted to make sure that this phone will work fine on GSM and 3G networks in my country. My country uses 850/1800 for GSM, 2100 for 3G and 1800 (Band 3) for LTE. I know that LTE wont work cause this device doesnt have band 3 but Im quite happy with 3G.
Can you guys please confirm that 3G will work fine on this phone? Ive found some threads here on XDA from people who are having issues using 3G data on this phone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(1st_generation)#Variants
XT1060
CDMA Bands: 850/1900
GSM Bands: Quad
UMTS Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands: 4/13
All variants support four 2G GSM bands 850/900/1800/1900.
The XT1050 is a regional device for smaller carriers but uses identical bands.

The Verizon XT1060 is CDMA/GSM variant that is SIM unlocked out of the box. To use the XT1060 on a GSM carrier, you need to force its radio to GSM and the Verizon firmware will always tell you its a "non-verizon sim" inserted in the phone.
It supports the following frequencies..
CDMA = 800/1900
GSM/GPRS/Edge (aka 2G/2.5G) = 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
UMTS/HSPA (aka 3G) = 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz
HSPA+ (aka 4G) = 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz
4G LTE = Band 4 and 13.
When using on GSM carriers, it will get the fastest connection based on what the phone supports vs what the carrier uses.
To be honest, If you want to use it on a GSM carrier, you're better off getting the XT1053, or other GSM unlocked X. And.. take a look at this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt1053-xt1060-developer-edition-t3057585

Hey guys! Thanks for the help @fury683 and especially @KidJoe
Fortunately, I'm very well versed with the frequencies supported by the phone.
And my first choice would be to try and get a XT1052 - the international variant.
Unfortunately, in my city, the only variant available is the XT1060 and the too the retail version.
All I wanted to confirm was whether the Verizon Firmware will give me any problems like not detecting my sim or not connecting to 3G networks (local networks use 2100 for both HSPA & HSPA+ so theoretically it shouldn't have any problems).
Also, can I root it? There's a 90% chance that it'll be running 4.2.2 so I've heard there's the Sunshine unlocking method or something which can help me unlock the bootloader (unless the previous owner already did it; in which case it'll be a blessing!)
And is there anyway I can confirm if the phone is refurbished (whether it has been opened at any point in its life)?

usmanshahid said:
Hey guys! Thanks for the help @fury683 and especially @KidJoe
Fortunately, I'm very well versed with the frequencies supported by the phone.
And my first choice would be to try and get a XT1052 - the international variant.
Unfortunately, in my city, the only variant available is the XT1060 and the too the retail version.
All I wanted to confirm was whether the Verizon Firmware will give me any problems like not detecting my sim or not connecting to 3G networks (local networks use 2100 for both HSPA & HSPA+ so theoretically it shouldn't have any problems).
Also, can I root it? There's a 90% chance that it'll be running 4.2.2 so I've heard there's the Sunshine unlocking method or something which can help me unlock the bootloader (unless the previous owner already did it; in which case it'll be a blessing!)
And is there anyway I can confirm if the phone is refurbished (whether it has been opened at any point in its life)?
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The XT1060 will work on GSM for carriers supporting/using the "standard 4" (850/900/1900/2100 MHz). You MIGHT have to manually enter your APN settings.
As for rooting, If the phone has 4.4.2 or lower, and has NEVER had 4.4.4 on it, you can use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader, then root. IF you receive the phone and it has 4.4.4 on it, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader. And there is no root method for 4.4.4 with a locked bootloader.

I found this beautiful AT&T Moto X today. And before I finalize the deal in a day or two, I want to run a few things by you guys;
1. The phone is running '165.44.1.ghost_att.ATT.en.US' - which is 4.4.2, right?
The bootloader is locked with a Status '0'. So I guess rooting is out of the question, right?
2. When I opened the phone in fastboot, it showed the following bootloader info;
30.B4 (sha-a542ee0)
What does that mean, exactly?
3. Under the 'Kernel Version', it showed some numbers and this;
[email protected]#1
a date stamp
^What does this mean?
I had the phone in my hand for about a good twenty minutes. It was in a very good condition. Had the AT&T logo and a tiny "assembled in USA" stamp on the back. It had a couple of AT&T apps as well.
So what do you guys think? Should I go for it? And are there any other things I should check before I cough up the cash?
And is there any way I can check NFC in the store?
Oh and did the new XT1058 come as a network locked device? Will I be able to run it on my local networks without any locking issues? (all frequency bands available on the phone are supported in my country!)
@KidJoe The phone was showing its IMEI in the "About Phone" tab in the settings menu.
So that should indicate its free from that dead IMEI issue that some of the other guys on XDA faced, right?
Also, I've heard the Rogers stock ROM is almost completely free of bloat. So can I flash a Rogers 4.4.2 SBF without unlocking the bootloader on the phone?

usmanshahid said:
I found this beautiful AT&T Moto X today. And before I finalize the deal in a day or two, I want to run a few things by you guys;
1. The phone is running '165.44.1.ghost_att.ATT.en.US' - which is 4.4.2, right?
The bootloader is locked with a Status '0'. So I guess rooting is out of the question, right?
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That is correct. Its 4.4.2
usmanshahid said:
2. When I opened the phone in fastboot, it showed the following bootloader info;
30.B4 (sha-a542ee0)
What does that mean, exactly?
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That is the bootloader version. Its consistent with 4.4.2... WHICH IS GOOD!!!
Use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader, then you can root no matter what rom is on your phone.
usmanshahid said:
3. Under the 'Kernel Version', it showed some numbers and this;
[email protected]#1
a date stamp
^What does this mean?
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I'm not sure the Kernel Version for the ATT roms. Sorry.
usmanshahid said:
I had the phone in my hand for about a good twenty minutes. It was in a very good condition. Had the AT&T logo and a tiny "assembled in USA" stamp on the back. It had a couple of AT&T apps as well.
So what do you guys think? Should I go for it? And are there any other things I should check before I cough up the cash?
And is there any way I can check NFC in the store?
Oh and did the new XT1058 come as a network locked device? Will I be able to run it on my local networks without any locking issues? (all frequency bands available on the phone are supported in my country!)
@KidJoe The phone was showing its IMEI in the "About Phone" tab in the settings menu.
So that should indicate its free from that dead IMEI issue that some of the other guys on XDA faced, right?
Also, I've heard the Rogers stock ROM is almost completely free of bloat. So can I flash a Rogers 4.4.2 SBF without unlocking the bootloader on the phone?
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If you do NOT take any updates, you can unlock the bootloader using Sunshine, and then you're free to upddate, and root as you wish.
To test NFC in "store", if you have a fitbit Flex, Force or Charge, install the fitbit app on the phone, tap your fitbit device. Does the app launch? If yes, NFC is working fine. I don't know of another way.
The XT1058 is SIM Locked (aka carrier locked), but you can purchase a SIM unlock code on line cheap, unless you can get ATT to provide it to you (you have to meet their conditions).
You can NOT flash anything but stock Moto XT1058 for ATT rom unless you unlock the bootloader.

KidJoe said:
That is correct. Its 4.4.2
That is the bootloader version. Its consistent with 4.4.2... WHICH IS GOOD!!!
Use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader, then you can root no matter what rom is on your phone.
I'm not sure the Kernel Version for the ATT roms. Sorry.
If you do NOT take any updates, you can unlock the bootloader using Sunshine, and then you're free to upddate, and root as you wish.
To test NFC in "store", if you have a fitbit Flex, Force or Charge, install the fitbit app on the phone, tap your fitbit device. Does the app launch? If yes, NFC is working fine. I don't know of another way.
The XT1058 is SIM Locked (aka carrier locked), but you can purchase a SIM unlock code on line cheap, unless you can get ATT to provide it to you (you have to meet their conditions).
You can NOT flash anything but stock Moto XT1058 for ATT rom unless you unlock the bootloader.
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Thanks for all your help!
I got the phone today. It's on 4.4.2 and is already SIM unlocked. I plan to unlock the bootloader after a few days!

usmanshahid said:
Thanks for all your help!
I got the phone today. It's on 4.4.2 and is already SIM unlocked. I plan to unlock the bootloader after a few days!
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Cool, just make sure you do NOT take any Over The Air Updates. Once you get 4.4.4 on there, you wont be able to bootloader unlock an ATT XT1058.

@KidJoe
Dude, I ran into a problem with Sunshine. They don't accept my credit card and I don't have a paypal account.
I'm working on getting a new card, but in the mean time I wanted to ask if I could use the Pie hack to temporarily root the phone to remove the AT&T bloatware.
Would that work?

usmanshahid said:
@KidJoe
Dude, I ran into a problem with Sunshine. They don't accept my credit card and I don't have a paypal account.
I'm working on getting a new card, but in the mean time I wanted to ask if I could use the Pie hack to temporarily root the phone to remove the AT&T bloatware.
Would that work?
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Yes, but keep in mind that TowelPie is a temp root and doesn't disable write protection. So, Boot, root, remove the bloat, but if you reboot the phone (or power off/on), bloat returns and you need to re-root

@KidJoe
I unlocked my phone's (ATT XT1058) bootloader recently using Sunshine.
Unfortunately, after I updated it to 4.4.4, it somehow got network locked.
Can I remove the network lock by flashing the stock ROM of the international Moto X (XT1052)?

usmanshahid said:
@KidJoe
I unlocked my phone's (ATT XT1058) bootloader recently using Sunshine.
Unfortunately, after I updated it to 4.4.4, it somehow got network locked.
Can I remove the network lock by flashing the stock ROM of the international Moto X (XT1052)?
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Flashing the rom from a different model will not sim unlock you.

KidJoe said:
Flashing the rom from a different model will not sim unlock you.
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So how do I SIM unlock my phone? Besides getting the code from ATT.
Is there any way to do it for free?
Thank you for your help!
EDIT: In many of your threads you've warned people to not attempt to downgrade the ROM. Meaning I can't flash a Stock 4.4.2 SBF after I've updated the phone to 4.4.4.
But what if flash a custom ROM like cyanogenmod and then attempt to flash the stock 4.4.2 SBF. Will it still brick my phone?

usmanshahid said:
@KidJoe
Dude, I ran into a problem with Sunshine. They don't accept my credit card and I don't have a paypal account.
I'm working on getting a new card, but in the mean time I wanted to ask if I could use the Pie hack to temporarily root the phone to remove the AT&T bloatware.
Would that work?
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You can use Western-Union to transfer your payment to the sunshine developers... Im also from Pakistan and Unlocked my bootloader through sunshine by using the western union payment method... You dont need to work hard for a new credit card..

usmanshahid said:
So how do I SIM unlock my phone? Besides getting the code from ATT.
Is there any way to do it for free?
I just spent around $35 on Sunshine (the $10 extra was for transferring the money from my country).
It may not sound like much, but it's a lot in my country.
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I don't have anything I can suggest to SIM unlock the XT1058 for free. Some services online sell SIM unlock codes, that would be the only thing I can suggest.
usmanshahid said:
EDIT: In many of your threads you've warned people to not attempt to downgrade the ROM. Meaning I can't flash a Stock 4.4.2 SBF after I've updated the phone to 4.4.4.
But what if flash a custom ROM like cyanogenmod and then attempt to flash the stock 4.4.2 SBF. Will it still brick my phone?
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CM11, CM12, or any ROM based on AOSP, only flash SYSTEM, and do not touch gpt.bin or the critical parts of motoboot.img. So if you go from Moto 4.4.4 -> CM, you still have parts of the Moto 4.4.4 on there... So later if you go CM -> Moto 4.4.2 SBF, you're still at risk of bricking.
And the next question you will likely ask is... "what if I skip those parts"... To that I say... Read items 11, 13, 14, 16, and 17 at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202

KidJoe said:
I don't have anything I can suggest to SIM unlock the XT1058 for free. Some services online sell SIM unlock codes, that would be the only thing I can suggest.
CM11, CM12, or any ROM based on AOSP, only flash SYSTEM, and do not touch gpt.bin or the critical parts of motoboot.img. So if you go from Moto 4.4.4 -> CM, you still have parts of the Moto 4.4.4 on there... So later if you go CM -> Moto 4.4.2 SBF, you're still at risk of bricking.
And the next question you will likely ask is... "what if I skip those parts"... To that I say... Read items 11, 13, 14, 16, and 17 at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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Thank you for all your help and advice. I really appreciate it!

@KidJoe
Sir, I went through your blog on cdmaforums and I have a couple of questions.
1. Due to the GPT.BIN issue, will all the nandroid backups I made using TWRP on 4.4.4 become useless after I update to Lollipop in future?
2. If (after its released), I take the Lollipop OTA file, extract it and only flash the system and boot images will I still have the GPT.BIN issues?
Cause technically, I will have the gpt.bin file from 4.4.4 and all my nandroid backups should work just fine, no?
Found another thread where you warned us not to try this.
3. Supposedly while messing about with my phone, I brick it. Can I get it back to normal?
I found a method to do this on your blog, but I was wondering if it could be used to recover from the messed up gpt.bin files?
[I want to try the thing I mentioned in point 2 above so I need to know if I'll be able to recover my phone if something happens.]
4. What is NON-HLOS.BIN? I found this file in a 4.4.4 SBF that I extracted. Didn't flash it - I was moving from ATT 4.4.4 to EU 4.4.4 so I guess it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
5. I have a ATT phone which was carrier locked. Will erasing the modemst partitions re-activate the modem lock?
6. After I've downloaded an OTA via the system update option on my phone, is there anyway to extract that OTA from the /cache partition?
7. I had a stock ATT 4.4.4 ROM from which I switched to the stock EU 4.4.4 ROM (I didn't flash the entire EU SBF because TWRP was giving an error - MD5 sums didn't match - so I extracted the system and boot partitions and flashed those). So now, as I understand, if I get an official 5.1 OTA, all I have to do is flash the stock recovery and install the OTA after which I can re-flash TWRP again. That correct, or am I missing something?
Thank you!

usmanshahid said:
@KidJoe
Sir, I went through your blog on cdmaforums and I have a couple of questions.
1. Due to the GPT.BIN issue, will all the nandroid backups I made using TWRP on 4.4.4 become useless after I update to Lollipop in future?
2. If (after its released), I take the Lollipop OTA file, extract it and only flash the system and boot images will I still have the GPT.BIN issues?
Cause technically, I will have the gpt.bin file from 4.4.4 and all my nandroid backups should work just fine, no?
Found another thread where you warned us not to try this.
3. Supposedly while messing about with my phone, I brick it. Can I get it back to normal?
I found a method to do this on your blog, but I was wondering if it could be used to recover from the messed up gpt.bin files?
[I want to try the thing I mentioned in point 2 above so I need to know if I'll be able to recover my phone if something happens.]
4. What is NON-HLOS.BIN? I found this file in a 4.4.4 SBF that I extracted. Didn't flash it - I was moving from ATT 4.4.4 to EU 4.4.4 so I guess it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
5. I have a ATT phone which was carrier locked. Will erasing the modemst partitions re-activate the modem lock?
6. After I've downloaded an OTA via the system update option on my phone, is there anyway to extract that OTA from the /cache partition?
7. I had a stock ATT 4.4.4 ROM from which I switched to the stock EU 4.4.4 ROM (I didn't flash the entire EU SBF because TWRP was giving an error - MD5 sums didn't match - so I extracted the system and boot partitions and flashed those). So now, as I understand, if I get an official 5.1 OTA, all I have to do is flash the stock recovery and install the OTA after which I can re-flash TWRP again. That correct, or am I missing something?
Thank you!
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Except for NON-HLOS.BIN, What you are asking is pretty much covered in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
but I'll reply here anyway...
1. You could restore them, BUT once you have a newer ROM installed on the phone, due to the mismatch of GPT.bin and Motoboot.img parts of the phone, you'll likely encounter bugs and potentially some features not working (due to the mismatch between the GPT and Motoboot parts and the rest of your rom, and the mismatch of any other parts of the phone not included in the nandroid back up made with TWRP).
2. Although you scratched and said you found the thread... Again, see my answer to #1.
3. There are varying degrees of "bricking." If you still can access the phone via fastboot, in some cases recovery is as simple as re-flashing the SBF that matches the NEWEST version you had on your phone. Other cases its much harder than that, and still other cases you can't recover at all. We've seen it all.
4. it either IS or IS RELATED TO the MODEM of the phone.
5. I'm sorry, I do not know for sure.
6. After downloading, but before installing, the OTA update ZIP file is stored on the phone in /cacahe folder. You need to be rooted to access this folder. If you are rooted, you can copy this file to /SDcard to then copy it to your PC or elsewhere.
7. First off, TWRP doesn't work with flashing IMG files from inside an SBF so I'm not sure what you were trying there. But anyway... IF you used mfastboot to flash EU's System.IMG and BOOT.IMG to your phone, IF you get notified for an available update, it will be the update for the EU ROM. It will be interesting to see what happens. Due to the mix-matched parts on your phone (system/boot from EU, rest from ATT USA), the pre-flash validation might fail, and the OTA wont install. However, IF enough of your phone matches the EU rom, then the update will install and PATCH files/parts on the phone with the EU version, then you may be stuck on the EU version..

KidJoe said:
7. First off, TWRP doesn't work with flashing IMG files from inside an SBF so I'm not sure what you were trying there. But anyway... IF you used mfastboot to flash EU's System.IMG and BOOT.IMG to your phone, IF you get notified for an available update, it will be the update for the EU ROM. It will be interesting to see what happens. Due to the mix-matched parts on your phone (system/boot from EU, rest from ATT USA), the pre-flash validation might fail, and the OTA wont install. However, IF enough of your phone matches the EU rom, then the update will install and PATCH files/parts on the phone with the EU version, then you may be stuck on the EU version..
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I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.
TWRP was giving errors so I opened the zip file on a computer and flashed the system.img and boot.img via the fast boot command.
I had flashed the recovery.img as well, but that got overwritten when I flashed TWRP again. Pretty much all that was left was gpt.bin file, non-hlos.bin, fsg.mbn and motoboot.img.
As I understand it, motoboot.img is the bootloader and gpt.bin is a partition table and both these files will be the same for all 4.4.4 ROMS.
And non-hlos.bin and fsg.mbn are modem files which should also be the almost same for both EU and ATT ROMS. Except maybe having a modem lock or something on the ATT version.
Before I take the OTA, I'll flash the recovery.img from the EU 4.4.4 SBF which I unzipped to prevent clashes.
Do you think the rest of the files would be enough to cause the pre flash validation check to fail?
Could you elaborate on what you mean by 'stuck on the EU version'?
And would you recommend that I take the OTA, provided I get one?
Thank you!

[Q] [MOTO X| RW] Moving back to Europe, I just want to do phone calls.

So I have a MOTO X 2013 from Republic Wireless (XT1049) and I'm moving back to Europe (Portugal). I was wondering if there was any way to change my SIM card and be able to simply do calls. I don't care if I lose the RW functionalities of wifi calling and all that.
Unfortunately I'm in version 4.4.4 and from what I have checked I can't really change my ROM anymore (though that would solve my problem). Also the SIM-unlocker I found (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155) doesn't seem to be for my phone version and... I have no idea what GSM is haha.
I have searched a lot but I can't seem to find a clear solution..
I'm completely new to all this things so if you have any solution I would appreciate if you could explain it really well

Filaipus said:
So I have a MOTO X 2013 from Republic Wireless (XT1049) and I'm moving back to Europe (Portugal). I was wondering if there was any way to change my SIM card and be able to simply do calls. I don't care if I lose the RW functionalities of wifi calling and all that.
Unfortunately I'm in version 4.4.4 and from what I have checked I can't really change my ROM anymore (though that would solve my problem). Also the SIM-unlocker I found (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155) doesn't seem to be for my phone version and... I have no idea what GSM is haha.
I have searched a lot but I can't seem to find a clear solution..
I'm completely new to all this things so if you have any solution I would appreciate if you could explain it really well
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Without unlocking the bootloader, you can't do anything but use that phone on Republic Wireless. Sell it and then buy a phone that will work to where you are moving.

JulesJam said:
Without unlocking the bootloader, you can't do anything but use that phone on Republic Wireless. Sell it and then buy a phone that will work to where you are moving.
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And there's no way to unlock the bootloader in version 4.4 right? Crap. I can't really sell it since I'm already in Portugal also haha. O well, now I have a expensive mp3 player. Thanks!

Filaipus said:
And there's no way to unlock the bootloader in version 4.4 right?
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4.4 or 4.4.4? There is no way to unlock the bootloader on 4.4.4.
Even if you could bootloader unlock it, it needs to be SIM unlocked too. But then the issues is the hardware - does it have GSM radios in it? Idk, you would have to look into that.

Filaipus said:
And there's no way to unlock the bootloader in version 4.4 right? Crap. I can't really sell it since I'm already in Portugal also haha. O well, now I have a expensive mp3 player. Thanks!
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the sim unlock instructions by @samwathegreat here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155 require you to flash the Sprint rom, which you can't do unless you are bootloader unlocked.
Since moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock code for Republic Wireless, and the China seller/Middleman is/are long gone, Sunshine is your only option.
If you have 4.4.2 or LOWER, and have never upgraded it to 4.4.4, then you can use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader, and follow that thread to SIM Unlock (aka carrier unlock). That would enable GSM and you could use it with carriers in Europe.
BUT if you already upgraded it to 4.4.4, then you are stuck as far as I know. And no, you can't completely and safely downgrade to 4.4.2 or lower, and even if you try, the parts Sunshine works with wont be downgraded anyway. (i.e. Sunshine wont work even if you attempt to downgrade to 4.4.2)
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JulesJam said:
4.4 or 4.4.4? There is no way to unlock the bootloader on 4.4.4.
Even if you could bootloader unlock it, it needs to be SIM unlocked too. But then the issues is the hardware - does it have GSM radios in it? Idk, you would have to look into that.
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Yes, the Republic Wireless XT1049 does have GSM radios, but they are SIM Locked (aka Carrier Locked). The only way to SIM Unlock them is to have an unlocked bootloader so you can flash the Sprint XT1056 SBF, and follow the instructions in that other thread.

Bootloader & Sims Unlocked Stock AT&T 4.4.X Moto X, precaution to take for update ?

Bootloader & Sims Unlocked Stock AT&T 4.4.X Moto X, precaution to take for update ?
Hi, i got this AT&T Moto X (Ghost) running stock 4.4.X with already unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked from ebay year ago. The one was starting to be very energy unefficiant, battery was not lasting while in sleep mode for all the day. Ordered a new battery and my step father allowed me to change the roms. So i plan to install mokee 5.1.1 because it would be use with car bluetooth for call.
My question's the following, i used titanium backup to freeze update year ago, since mokee 5.1.1 need the 5.1 modem from AT&T, how do i manually update this model ? I live in Canada and the network's Rogers, so it need to stay sim unlocked and i since i want to change roms, i don't want to lose the bootloader unlock. There's that thread in dev that got all official 5.1 stock roms, if i take the roms and flash it on lastest twrp, do i keep sims & bootloader unlocked ? Thank you.

flashing the stock firmware doesn't effect the bootloader but yes some At&t moto x sim locked after update to lollipop [emoji517]
So safely you have to flash modem (non-hlos.bin) and fsg.mbn
Note : some moto x At&t after relocked will not unlock with official unlock code then you have to use unlocking tools
So be careful
Br
Shahzaib Jahangir
#Unlockerplus

Shabby The Dev said:
flashing the stock firmware doesn't effect the bootloader but yes some At&t moto x sim locked after update to lollipop [emoji517]
So safely you have to flash modem (non-hlos.bin) and fsg.mbn
Note : some moto x At&t after relocked will not unlock with official unlock code then you have to use unlocking tools
So be careful
Br
Shahzaib Jahangir
#Unlockerplus
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Do you means i cannot update the modem without losing the sims unlock ? ATM, i only plan to flash an updated modem and a custom roms. The customs roms i want to use require the new modem for lolipop. I have been using the search function on xda for hour and doing search on google without anybody saying anything about flashing new modem for AT&T Moto X. If the Sims get locked again, how do i unlock my Sims to use in Canada ? Thank you.

Atari-San said:
Do you means i cannot update the modem without losing the sims unlock ? ATM, i only plan to flash an updated modem and a custom roms. The customs roms i want to use require the new modem for lolipop. I have been using the search function on xda for hour and doing search on google without anybody saying anything about flashing new modem for AT&T Moto X. If the Sims get locked again, how do i unlock my Sims to use in Canada ? Thank you.
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If unfortunately your moto x get locked and not accepting any unlocking codes so it doesn't matter there is many paid tools which unlock your phone if you don't have those tools so give it to any software service center tell them that after update it was locked and they will unlock it easily
Br,
Shahzaib Jahangir
#Unlockerplus

Ok, which tools can i use to unlock sim for free in the case it get locked back again. I don't want to say to my step father that i fudged the updating process after i did it successfully a lot of time for year.