Post-purchase: would you buy UMI ZERO? - UMi ZERO Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi guys, I am interested in UMI ZERO but wondering if it lives up to the hype. I would like to know from those who purchased and been using it, would you buy it given your experience with it? Just want to confirm that the hardware and ROM that comes with it are both good. Thank you for your help.

Just want to say thank you for those who have participated in the poll.
For those who voted NO, would you care to share your main issues with the device? Thank you.

There are 2 important issues: WIFI bug and unexpected reboots, not solved yet in the v09 update.
Definitely , I would not buy it again.

For me the device works perfect with Arcatarc's eumi rom. I also experienced reboots with the original Umi rom. But since I changed to Arcatarc's rom the device is reliable, with no reboot in the last month. Also batery life is good with 2 to 3 days standby and 3 to 4 hour display on-time. Wifi works with most routers perfect, but with my older Netgear with alternative FW the wifi was very buggy. With the router at work I have perfect wifi speeds (on 2.4 and 5 GHz), altough the signal is a bit weaker as my nexus tablet.
So I would recommend this device if you are willing to change the rom.

I would recommend you NOT to buy the UMI Zero
xdadevr said:
Hi guys, I am interested in UMI ZERO but wondering if it lives up to the hype. I would like to know from those who purchased and been using it, would you buy it given your experience with it? Just want to confirm that the hardware and ROM that comes with it are both good. Thank you for your help.
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I have had multiple problems with UMI Zero within a month of using it. Am listing them below:
Randomly reboots - Have tried many ROMs, all have this problem but in different frequencies
Microphone has failed - Yes! I am using only the headset now for calls
Capicitive keys have become laggy and unresponsive - Sometimes they work, sometimes they do not
Support from UMI is not good. Sellers aren't good either - UMI asks you to contact seller, seller asks you to ship back at own cost, wait for more than a month as they verify and ship you a new one (hopefully) over mail (Geekbuying)
GPS - seldom locks
WiFI has issues
Battery Drain happens faster than you would think it should (And it is not the screen, I guess it has to do with the Kernels)
ROMs are all low maturity and no sight of Lolipop due to Mediatek issues

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TheAmazingP said:
For me the device works perfect with Arcatarc's eumi rom. I also experienced reboots with the original Umi rom. But since I changed to Arcatarc's rom the device is reliable, with no reboot in the last month. Also batery life is good with 2 to 3 days standby and 3 to 4 hour display on-time. Wifi works with most routers perfect, but with my older Netgear with alternative FW the wifi was very buggy. With the router at work I have perfect wifi speeds (on 2.4 and 5 GHz), altough the signal is a bit weaker as my nexus tablet.
So I would recommend this device if you are willing to change the rom.
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Emui or superleggera?
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Emui or superleggera?
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I would reccomend complete Emui and as said before I think its the best rom I have used so far and would be reluctant to try Mui 6 as it very similar and has it own problems

I'm done with mine. Had it for around 2 months and it's just not usable as an everyday phone.
The biggest problem I have is with the battery. I get at the very most 1 hour of web browsing before the phone shuts down. That simply isn't good enough. The other day I went to an exhibition and started the day fully charged. I took about 15 photos there and was on whatsapp for about 10 minutes before it shutdown. I can't live with that. I got rid of my last phone (HTC One X) because it was 2 years old and the battery had got to the point where it wasn't lasting me long enough. Despite how poor it had got, it still lasted twice as long as the Umi!
Even more annoying is I just don't know when it's going to shutdown. Sometimes it does it at 30%, other times at 50%. The few times it's actually got below 30% it is losing about 1% for every 5s the screen is turned on once it's past 30%. I've tried several battery calibration apps but none of them have resolved the problem.
My battery has swollen now and there is a gap between the frame and the back cover. It's only a matter of time before it forces the screen off. With all the other problems the phone has, it's just wont be worth replacing the battery or cover.
I've come to the conclusion that UMI have honest intentions but they just don't know what they're doing. They've released so many stock ROMs and it doesn't feel like they have any idea whatsoever how to resolve their issues (reboots, battery, poor signal, MAC issues etc...).
They've now got 2 new phones coming out (Hammer and Zero 2) and I very much doubt we'll see any new ROMs. Perhaps a few more customisations (there must be some they've missed!) but none that actually fix the major issues with the phone.

I bought this phone a couple of years ago because I thought the design was gorgeous. I never really used it as a regular phone. After a while it quit receiving a phone signal. After research I found out that many people have the same issue. Apparently there is a defect in the design that makes the antenna connector come loosen from the motherboard. Probably got melted off because the phone literally got so hot that I could not hold it.
I even bought a second one off of E-bay and it had the exact same issue. The seller actually tried to pawn off this defective piece of trash. When I told him I knew what the problem was he didn't contest it. I did get my money back, but what an exasperating ordeal. So now I have a very nice glass & metal 5 inch tablet.

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The N5 has let me down

Last weekend I went on a bit of a trip visiting 2 cities and was expecting to use the N5 as GPS (navigating trough the cities), camera and media player. I am sorry to report that it failed miserably..
First was the camera : all was well until i got the "cannot connect to camera" dialog and had to reset the phone missing the moment to be captured. If it were a one time event I could have over looked it but it happened about 5 times in 3 days. I didn't use HDR or other camera apps, just the stock camera taking normal photos/videos.
Secondly, (related to the camera) the mm-qcamera daemon drained my battery like crazy so i was always charging the phone and took a survival attitude towards it (2g, no data, no wifi, minimum brightness) negating it's smartphone capabilities as much as possible.
Lastly, and most infuriating, the GPS just didn't work. I had an internet connection (chrome and facebook worked just fine) but it just wouldn't load the map nevermind driving/walking directions.
To top all this, my friends Galaxy Ysomething with gingerbread performed flawlessly all of the above. Needless to say that after this none of the group will ever consider a N5 as their phone.
Sorry for the vent/rant but it can't be all roses..
Wow... All of those points to a defective unit.
Trust me, this phone is better than your friends smartphone
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the camera hogging battery has been confirmed by google and will be fixed in the next update
i have no issues with GPS or the camera and I take about 5-20 pictures every day. maybe you can try using a custom rom or maybe you have a defective unit. i would contact google for a return if you are able to
Just flash a custom rom. Bet all your issues are gone.
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Not sure I experienced any issues.. but mind you, once I opened the box, turned it on and rooted the phone and installed a custom rom... lol...
Stock Pure Google experience.. never tried it.. :cyclops:
considering i have never experienced the camera issue once since me and my wife have owned the phone, his experience is a isolated one.
1 of 2 things happened to cause his issue:
1) hardware failure, which is beyond anyone's control
2) he modded his phone and broke something, which can be fixed by going back to stock (or should be anyways)
I would return it in a heartbeat! That is unacceptable for any device and those are each large enough issues to cause concern. I have been an android fan since I first held one some years ago. Every effort towards modding in the past has been to attain a pure stock, nexus-like experience. I purchased to N5 to stop chasing that dragon and honestly...it has been somewhat disappointing. Constant drain from com.chrome.sanbox, camera daemon running constantly and horrible audio. I have rooted and flashed away many things, but always at the expense of stability or another feature that I favored. Google needs to get their sh1t together. This is a great device, no doubt, but there are too many little problems that en up adding to a major PIA considering that this phone comes straight from the folks who makes the OS that we all love. I understand your frustrations OP, that is unacceptable. I would return it, like others have stated. That's too crap going wrong on a singular trip to be considered just a glitch. I love my N5, but it is ridiculous to overlook glaring flaws simply because it's a Nexus.
GPS should work very great though. I drain maybe 10 percent in an hour with it running, and it locks in less than a second for me...
Zepius said:
considering i have never experienced the camera issue once since me and my wife have owned the phone, his experience is a isolated one.
1 of 2 things happened to cause his issue:
1) hardware failure, which is beyond anyone's control
2) he modded his phone and broke something, which can be fixed by going back to stock (or should be anyways)
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What a coincidence that his camera, battery drain and GPS issue occur all around the same time. You maybe right about the software issue but I was replying with the assumption that the OP is running stock..so my bad. However, I've got a bad GPS reception, it barely connects and I've tried on both stock and custom kernels. I can't RMA or service it through warranty since I got it from abroad.
well, I've had my Nexus 5 for a few months, and I use it constantly. The camera has never given me a single issue, and neither has the GPS. I use the GPS quite frequently, as I recently moved to a new province, and don't know the area.
I've also used my Nexus 5 while traveling(between Alberta, Canada and Nova Scotia, Canada with many stopovers in between) and not one issue.
I can't speak for stock, as I flashed CM11 the moment I got my phone, but I use what's listed in my signature. I highly recommend those. A few times, there's been issues with the Chaos kernel, but not for several months now.
I'd definitely say give custom roms a try. But if that doesn't fix it, revert to stock and return the phone right away if possible.
I found the phone simply excellent when I was traveling around London, GPS camera and battery all good.
Sounds like you have a faulty phone.
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Do you have Skype installed?
I also had the exact same problems with battery and camera on my tablet and phone untill I uninstalled Skype.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660470
Never had problems with gps though.
Unable to RMA it since a friend of a friend bought it for me from Germany (I am from Romania). I just uninstalled Skype and will keep an eye on the camera. For the GPS problem I have no clue since not even network location is working in maps... I have weather apps and they figure my location just fine.
I am running stock unlocked with twrp. I will try out some roms eventually..
Will my local lg vendor be able to do something about a defective phone ?
Edit : back home (i was out during my last reply) maps is working perfectly (even without GPS, after data clear and force stop, wifi off). It's like the phone is shy of new places...
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Also clear cache of camera app.
NitroOnTheRocks said:
Do you have Skype installed?
I also had the exact same problems with battery and camera on my tablet and phone untill I uninstalled Skype.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660470
Never had problems with gps though.
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This should be were greenify helps. Any apps that suck battery, mess up other apps or abuse the memory can be hibernated, and only woken when we want to use them.
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Yes, I have Skype. But its sleeping like a baby unless I use it.
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The last time I saw the "cannot connect to camera" message was on my Xperia Play, which had a faulty connection with the front facing camera. I've never once seen it on my Nexus 5. That one definitely points to a faulty unit.
Camera battery drain, apparently this is a known issue, although I personally haven't experienced any issues.
GPS issues...I don't ever 100% rely on any GPS device..way too much room for error. That said, I used the GPS on my N5 last week to pinpoint my location on the map to help me find the house I was delivering to. Worked as smoothly as it could. Maps was open, I turned on GPS, boom, the blue dot told me where I was, good times were had by all.
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Writing off an entire type of phone based on one bad experience with a phone he didn't even try to replace to see if the problems were commonplace is ridiculous. Most Nexus phones don't act like this and to act like they all do or they all will is ridiculous. "Needless to say, none of us will ever try a Nexus 5" is being overly dramatic.
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I agree. While I understand their frustrations, it is pretty dumb to say that no one in the group will ever buy a Nexus 5 because of one phone had issues. Umm, ok? Does any phone from any manufacturer have a 100% fault free track record? I'll save you the google, the answer is no.
I also have n5 since it was released, rooted and on stock with latest updates since 3/18/2014. I had note 2 before and I gotta say I miss it. For 2 main reasons, multi function and battery. I think I will sell this with next note release. Yes you get latest updates but when you are rooted I'd rather not have the latest updates.
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The battery drain comes from a very real bug concerning how Skype interfaces with your device's camera. Google has even come out and said it's a major problem (after doing their own internal stress test and finding it to be a real bug). They are likely to fix it, but here is more information for you about it: http://phandroid.com/2014/03/04/and...ogle-fix-arriving-in-a-future-android-update/
Don't let anyone fool you into thinking that specific part (the GPS and Camera malfunction, I cannot speak to) is just your device. People with stock Android and people on custom ROMs have also been experiencing it. I run Carbon and it still happens to me. That's why I keep Skype frozen or Greenified (a better solution) unless I need it. Of course, that's a pretty bad workaround, especially if you pay for Skype calling or need to be online for messaging.
I hope it works out for you. Also, I can't quite claim to know for sure, but the warranty is not tied to the original purchaser, it's tied to the serial number on the device. My brother purchased two Nexus 5s (to ensure we both got one) and before I could do my first RMA, I had to ask them to swap the Google account over to my Google account.
That was it. I don't know how the warranty system works in Romania or Germany, but don't rule it out yet!
EDIT: To follow up with the warranty process, it should not matter what country you are currently in, the warranty will follow the laws set down by the country of purchase. If you do need to do an RMA, they will ship you a new one (overnight if needed) and ask that you ship them back the old phone within x number of days or else you'll be charged full retail.
If you have questions about this, please don't hesitate to ask. Everyone deserves to have a great phone.
Will look into RMA-ing it since i have a first batch (ordered 2 weeks after launch) and some complain of poor audio on their side.. The problem is that i cannot access the device playstore from my country..
Any ideas are appreciated.
The camera issue could be caused by insufficient ram at the time of operation. U sound like u wanted to do a lot of things with it on ur trip, it could've possibly ran out of ram at the time and thus couldn't load the camera. I had the exact same problem with my galaxy s3, clearing apps with an app manager fixed the problem (I used system panel). However the n5 handles ram extremely well, never have I once been Over 1.2gb used and I use it vigorously with no ram or task manager app. Kit Kat is just awesome.
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Xperia Z upgrade to M4 Aqua?

I wanted to know if any of you have an M4 Aqua or Xperia Z, so i can know if it's a good "upgrade"
My Xperia Z does almost everything I want, but has terrible battery life.
My main problem is that my internet/4g keeps saying I have no connection, even though I do.
I've had issues where I can load say xda developers site, but not any other site. I find it very weird that I can load only on site, but trying to load anything else says I have no connection.
Other times I turn on data and I can't access/load some webpages. It can be the same location, but sometimes I loads and others it doesn't.
Another issue is the "No sim card" error I get from time to time. It looks to have gone away, but not sure.
Xperia M4 Aqua looks good on paper at $200-$250.
Main reason I'm interested is because it's unlocked already and has Band 12 for tmobile!
Screen is 720p, but I can deal with it honestly.
Looks like a cheaper Xperia Z3, which I like.
S4 Pro(Z) vs SD 615(Aqua)
S4 pro likely has raw power, but is SD 615 is likely more efficient.(maybe faster)
Any recommendations for under $250 and preferably have band 12?
So do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? Any better options?
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Any recommendations for under $250 and preferably have band 12?
So do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? Any better options?
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Search for Xiaomi Mi4i.
I've heard of them, but don't I have to import them?
Since they're not released in the US.
Rather have a phone that I can buy here and has tmobile LTE speeds.
I saw this:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-xp...lack/4346600.p?id=1219734737974&skuId=4346600
Looks decent for 5.5 1080p phone.
Also can get G2 or G3 for that price range.
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My Xperia Z does almost everything I want, but has terrible battery life.
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This can be fixed in 3 ways:
1. Using a custom rom and/or using apps like amplify and greenify
2. Replacing the battery with a new one
3. Replacing your sim card
jms_209 said:
My main problem is that my internet/4g keeps saying I have no connection, even though I do.
I've had issues where I can load say xda developers site, but not any other site. I find it very weird that I can load only on site, but trying to load anything else says I have no connection.
Other times I turn on data and I can't access/load some webpages. It can be the same location, but sometimes I loads and others it doesn't.
Another issue is the "No sim card" error I get from time to time. It looks to have gone away, but not sure.
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The first thing you should do here is get a new sim card. sounds like yours is broken or outdated.
You can also try upgrading your baseband to the newest version
Finally a custom rom and/or kernel could clean up the remaining issues.
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Main reason I'm interested is because it's unlocked already and has Band 12 for tmobile!
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You should be able to unlock your phone with relative ease and at the very least for cheaper than buying a new one.
Also you can probably unlock band12 with the instructions available elsewhere on the forum, these explain how to open all the bands on the radio.
I can't comment on the M4 itself since i have no idea.
TLDR: Replace your sim card
Like I said the sim issue stopped completely, I just took out the sim and put it back in. No problems.
One thing I can't fix is battery draining 1-2% a minute with screen on using 4g. I always turn off data when not in use, I am trying to save as much battery.
I've had issues with data not working when it's on.
Example, xda sometimes says I have no connection. It's a lie, since another app pulls data fine. The weird issue when no websites load in any browser because no connection, but Facebook/email/YouTube work.
Honestly I just want something that can get through a day of moderate use.
10:30 am to 12:30 pm, 1-2 hour of music,15-30 min. using data screen on. Battery is usually at 70-80% by then in 2 hours of light use.
2:00 pm to 3:00, hour long video,720p. Drains like 15-30% of battery.
Watch 15 ninute YouTube video at 720p,drains like 5-15%.
The screen and data/lte on this are not efficient, which is the main problem for me.
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Like I said the sim issue stopped completely, I just took out the sim and put it back in. No problems.
One thing I can't fix is battery draining 1-2% a minute with screen on using 4g. I always turn off data when not in use, I am trying to save as much battery.
I've had issues with data not working when it's on.
Example, xda sometimes says I have no connection. It's a lie, since another app pulls data fine. The weird issue when no websites load in any browser because no connection, but Facebook/email/YouTube work.
Honestly I just want something that can get through a day of moderate use.
10:30 am to 12:30 pm, 1-2 hour of music,15-30 min. using data screen on. Battery is usually at 70-80% by then in 2 hours of light use.
2:00 pm to 3:00, hour long video,720p. Drains like 15-30% of battery.
Watch 15 ninute YouTube video at 720p,drains like 5-15%.
The screen and data/lte on this are not efficient, which is the main problem for me.
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That 4g drain could still be related to your sim card, if its more than 2 years old i would get it replaced.
It sounds to me like you are suffering from the regular mobileactive and/or play services drain.
I suggest you install this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/development/rom-official-sony-lollipop-5-1-1-t3196237
And then follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
If you dont mind unlocking the bootloader then you can profit even more by using this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/orig-development/kernel-zombie-t3126417
Also 4g will not work if sim card isn't the right one
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Are you looking to stay within the Sony ecosystem? I would stay away from non-flagship products from Sony, I've heard things about terrible support, 16gb storage that's gimped out the box and prices far higher than equivalent devices from other manufacturers. Perhaps a OnePlus X or something?
jms_209 said:
I wanted to know if any of you have an M4 Aqua or Xperia Z, so i can know if it's a good "upgrade"
My Xperia Z does almost everything I want, but has terrible battery life.
My main problem is that my internet/4g keeps saying I have no connection, even though I do.
I've had issues where I can load say xda developers site, but not any other site. I find it very weird that I can load only on site, but trying to load anything else says I have no connection.
Other times I turn on data and I can't access/load some webpages. It can be the same location, but sometimes I loads and others it doesn't.
Another issue is the "No sim card" error I get from time to time. It looks to have gone away, but not sure.
Xperia M4 Aqua looks good on paper at $200-$250.
Main reason I'm interested is because it's unlocked already and has Band 12 for tmobile!
Screen is 720p, but I can deal with it honestly.
Looks like a cheaper Xperia Z3, which I like.
S4 Pro(Z) vs SD 615(Aqua)
S4 pro likely has raw power, but is SD 615 is likely more efficient.(maybe faster)
Any recommendations for under $250 and preferably have band 12?
So do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? Any better options?
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M4 aqua us better than Xperia z.. Well mi 4 or one plus 2 is far more better than m4 aqua in performance and features

Battery drain

Hello everybody,
reading XDA forums for a while, I now have a problem with my Mi 5, that no other thread seems to cover (sorry if I'm wrong).
I bought my 32 GB Mi 5 from gearbest in July and Battery life from the beginning was not as good as GSMarena promised. I can't recall any numbers but I blamed the "shop-version" of android and tried the stable ones from english miui site, but no luck. I even tried CM-13 but battery life there was really bad (8-10 % per hour). Right now i have the latest stable (global V8.1.2.0.MAAMIDI) and it uses almost 4 % per hour in flight mode! The funny thing: even powered of, the phone drains the battery at that rate (actually not funny)
So my question is: By any chance, is this something, which could be caused by software or is it definitely a hardware fault? Since i flashed the firmware, gearbest refuses any asisstance (warranty void).
Any idea or help is gratly appreciated!
I have got similar trouble with my mi5/64 gb.
I have been inquiring and testing with many old and new version of stock roms (meaning miui) and custom roms for several months.
Moreover, I have used and tested with many battery saving and improvement apps too. I also flashed with MPdecion mod.
I am now with the latest eu developer rom of Nougat 6.12.15....
Unfortunatelly, I found no solution no improvement. My battery life is avarage 13-15 hours.. Even it drains 4% per hour while fully powered off.
As a result, I have no more option but to replace battery with a new one (purchased from Aliexpress but not yet arrived) thou I have little hope thinking that this might be due to defected motherboard.
I may suggest you to return your device or get replaced with another one..
Hello sas_sas,
my deepest sympathties to your situation. I'm still hesitating to open the phone, but since gearbest refuses any warranty (due to flashing the phone :silly I might try between Christmas and New Year. One easy way to narrow down the fault would be to fully charge the phone, disonnect the battery and leave it for a day. When reconnected and powered up the phone shows no disacharge you could save your money for a new battery. Also i think a faulty battery would already have blown up during quickcharge.
This issue is really a shame! Xiaomi is regarded as a premium brand but i couldn't find a way to contact them to describe the obvious hardware problem. Gearbest just holds their hands in the air and blames the customer. That's really annoying.

Questions about OnePlus 3T

Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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I didn't notice any drop in wifi or LTE connection. Battery life has been great for me..on stock you should get 5-6 hrs sot. Return process is smooth, I had returned twice and both the times I didn't have any problems
1. Haven't noticed any worse signal than I had with my oneplus one. May actually be better. On ATT.
2. No issues here. I use my 5ghz network at home and haven't noticed any particularly increased frequency in wifi drops to the point where it bothers me.
3. Battery life is fantastic. Some people get up to 10+ hours of battery life. I'm unrooted and stock (a first for me in the last 8 years) and get 26-28 hours out of each charge with SOT of 4ish hours but I use my phone for a lot of music and phone calls. Sometimes I wonder what my battery life would be if I had the time to spend 10+ hours on it per day lol.
4. No experience with returns.
Honestly man, I have zero regrets about this phone and the vast majority who have this phone feel the same way. If you're considering it, pull the trigger. Odds are you'll be quite happy with the phone.
1. In comparision to my former iPhone 6 signal strength increased quite a bit. Calls were disconnected while walking around the office before. With the 3T connection became mor stable.
2. Wifi is working well and stable - not significally better or worse than with any other wireless client.
3. I had Problems with battery drains due to hight RAM and CPU usage of "Google Play Services" and "Android System". Many already complained about this according to the AOSP/MRA bug. I did a clean re-flash with OOS 4.0.2 3 days ago. Everything is fine now... not to say awesome.
4. I have no experience with returns and refunds. Word is: With OnePlus it might become complicated but customer service reacts quickly to support requests.
Like previous speaker, I don't regret a thing. I love my 3T.
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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1.) I have had 2 dropped calls since I got my phone in November, LTE is slow at my house which is okay but as I get closer to the city I see speeds of 100Mbps. I am with Rogers.
2.) I have not had any Wifi drops yet.
3.) I rooted but did no other modifications, I can listen to music and have the screen on for 4 hours (to and from work on transit, reading news, facebook, etc) and play music for 6 hours over bluetooth while at work and still get home with 40% battery. Best thing is phone can charge from 30% to 95% in 1 hour while still playing music over bluetooth incase I forgot to charge at home in the morning before I leave.
4.) I have never had to do a return
LimitsX said:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
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I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
LimitsX said:
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
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I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
LimitsX said:
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
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Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
LimitsX said:
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
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To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Mad Medik said:
I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Thank you so much and everyone else who replied to my questions. I appreciate it. Do you have any other decent phone or last year phone that is decent for much less? I had Galaxy S4, but it just died and tried to get it repaired, but it became worse. So thats the situation. I found Nexus 5 32GB for $135 CAD, but, i will end up paying $250 for it, which im not sure if its worth it. The phone is 3 years old, but in really mint condition though.
Every phone I've try to buy, its costing me $400-500 with taxes and unlocking fees. These are really crappy ones lol, like some 2 core snap dragon cpu and 1.5GB ram. I buy phones outright, so yeah. Cheapest is $282 with taxes, and that phone is not even worth that much, plus $50 unlocking fees.
To stay on topic, it seems like O3T seems good phone. Would any of you guys be able to comment on camera quality? I don't take a lot, but when I do, i want some good quality pictures..
So, its better to get O3T over Pixel XL?
Thanks everyone!
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
Inciter said:
Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
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I have updated OS to 4.0.2 beta and facing this issue
LimitsX said:
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
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The 51 Mbps was when connected to 2.4Ghz wifi the over 80+ was 5Ghz
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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This post should be in bug reports, not in this thread.
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anyone still here? the note 4 continues to impress me....

Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
Why, of course, the battery is sealed now. Otherwise not much reason to upgrade year on year anymore. Phones are not leaps and bounds better from a few years ago. Only add gimmicks like in screen finger reader. Older flagship speed is enough if you don't play games. This world is sad.
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Long may it last!
I haven't found an equivalent replacement yet. Sadly, iR control in restaurant/bar TVs seems to be declining...
I have the SM-N910C and I live in Brazil.
I bought it new in 2016 and until today never gave problem. The battery is still great. I almost bought Note 8 or 9 recently, as I needed more internal memory, but solved the problem by going back to Android 5.1.1 (WanamLite, which I've used once for a long time).
I was almost 9 Gb free. Now you will be much longer with me. The device is fantastic.
N910F is still my daily driver! I have modded the cr*p out of it, feels so good, fast, smooth. Hope to be able to use it for 4 to 5 more years.
Bought a LG V20 for my girlfriend, 130 euro. Might also be an option for me, in case my Note 4 breaks down.
BACK BUTTON TO KILL app (only works once)
I fully agree with you aboyut Note4. I bought my wife one and she wanted a 10. I told her I could make the guts do the same thing (plus I can't see spending arms and legs for the most rapidly depreciating item). I've got 128 memory card, one of those massive multiple day batteries, round magnet charger mini USB that jumps on (no plugging), happy as a clam!
Does anyone on earth know of an apk that won't turn off after 1 use back button to kill app? That's my favorite function and I can't stand not being able to close them as I finish except those I return to. I have the apk but I have to keep going into settings, turning it back on for a one time use. Ive searched programming apps but there's none on earth I see that will do the job, and my OS doesn't allow it (I'm still trying to get a custom ROM but having no luck, bricked my other phone yesterday (I think bad CPU sector somewhere based on symptoms).
Hello, I'm currently on a OnePlus 5 but think that it's really overrated coming from my mod friendly S5 mini. I plan on maybe going back to an older phone, because I don't really need performance for anything except Dolphin and Citra Emulator (the MMJ variants of course) but I'd be willing to sacrifice it, since I've seen myself using it only rarely anyway, but I'm a little concerned about 1. The community, since it's an old phone, even though it's a really loved phone. 2. The stylus - does it work on custom ROMs? 3. The battery - I'd definitely buy a 3rd party battery, since the originals will have lost a LOT of capacity, but going from a 10nm SoC (SD 835) to a 20nm one (Exynos 5433) is a little concerning. (4. The kernel and modding sector - Are there good kernels from honest people, not guys like franciscofranco, and mods?) I'd really appreciate answers, maybe I could be helpful because I'm still very young but pretty experienced with modding, development and that stuff, even though I don't even own an x86 desktop and don't even speak english as a native language.
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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My depend on what version N4 you have?
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GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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It may depend on what version of the Note 4 you have or if you know how to port roms. For instance, i have a n910p and locked to the fused5,binary4 aboot preventing downgreading the bootloader. So stuck on 6.0 MM, so thrat sucks but the n910f is very similar in compatibility so that opens up other options. Theres also a GRX touchwiz home mod V8 that is pretty cool.
Im running a combination of Dtux Rom with an N7 custum kernel by freeza r61 and GRX V8 along with. alll sorts of ports from different develops. Thats just part of what I have done with the old N4.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...are-customizations-mods-roms-kernels-t3960353
Still Have My Note 4 & Note 7
The Note 4 with Android 6 still serves very nicely as a work phone. At the office, it does everything I need very well. The Note 4 is a better phone than my mom's Galaxy J7 from 2018. But for fun and photography, my Note 7 rocks. Those two Note models remain my favorite. I gave my Note 8 to my wife.
kolembo said:
Yeah.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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Could you expand on the camera cover statement please Kolembo ... how, from where ?
Agree wholeheartedly ... The Note 4 still rocks,
Cheers .... Alan.
Note 4 was best choice am happy with my note 4
Now am using s10 plus & note 4 ♡
Note 4 is still my favorite of all phones I have had.
I am considering the Xiaomi Mi 9 lite.
It has quite a lot of features of the Note 4: iR port, SD card, oled, earphone plug.
No removable battery, no pen, no barometer. Oh, and doesn't cover so many bands. B12 seems missing.
Would also have some advantages over Note 4: faster, security updates, bigger screen, FM radio (ha), longer battery life, better bluetooth.
I love my note 4. It covers so many functions such as tv remote, portable mp3 player, book reader and movie player. I also love the fact that I can swap out deodexed roms and custom roms at will to enhance the device's longetivity. I do believe that there is no other phone quite like it on the market so I guess thats why I bought a back up note 4 many years ago ??
Yup we're still building
10 Android ROMs and counting.
Plus Ubuntu touch !
I am wondering if my Note 4 is finally dead. I love the phone and was hoping to still be using it but a few hours ago the phone just froze so I just removed the battery. After that, I put the battery back in and it wouldn't power up. I left the battery out for a 20-30 mintues and then put it back it. It was able to power on but after the Tmobil splash screen it goes to the screen before going to the home screen and when I swipe nothing happens. I am afraid my Note has finally given up after years of service. Is everyone else's Note 4 still kicking?
kolembo said:
Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
Andrey12 said:
After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
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Is it hard for you to find or buy another Note 4 battery? I know it's old by today's standards but I would assume there might still be some new third-party batteries for it. I still have 2 new batteries from Anker when bought two extra for the device a year or two ago. Good luck on trying to find something.

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