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4K video on the S5 not as good as the Note 3

Ok so i recently bought a S5 900F, one thing I've noticed is that 4K video from the S5 isn't as good as that from the Note 3, which i also had.
For some reason on the S5 the colours look slightly over saturated, the note 3 looks more natural.
Also video sharpness seem to be slightly better on the Note 3 aswell, I have a 4K monitor so can see the difference, which doesn't show on a 1080p screen .
The most annoying thing i've found recording in 4K on the S5, is that it has a tendency to skip if the lighting conditions suddenly change quickly, doesn't do it all of the time but when it does it spoils the video, I've tested another S5 and it does the same thing so it's a camera firmware issues that maybe fixed in the future, the Note 3 doesn't have this problem at all both where recorded on the same 64GB Samsung class 10 card.
Tbh i quite disappointed with 4K on the S5 if anything it should be better than that of the Note 3 but atm it isn't, as the S5 is still new i may get sorted out with future fixes, but as it stands the Sony sensor does a better job atm than the Samsung sensor in 4K.

If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.

toews said:
If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.
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It's not the matter. S5 is new device and it has advance technology than n3. It should superior than n3 in terms of pictures and video quality. I hope its software problem than hardware coz software can be fix
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Ave666 said:
It's not the matter. S5 is new device and it has advance technology than n3. It should superior than n3 in terms of pictures and video quality. I hope its software problem than hardware coz software can be fix
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So? The N3 is bigger than the S5 so it's easier to put better hardware in there.

Not the case of better hardware, the S5 has better hardware it's either to do with the new Samsung Sensor or the camera firmware.
We've only had one update so far I think for the S5, and with the sensor being new tech, we may see a few tweaks to it and the firmware in future updates.
But as it stands now camera is better picture wise than either the Note 3 & S4 , video on the otherhand moreso in 4K could be better.
And the very random skipping it sometimes does that really needs to be sorted though.
As for having a real camera, I've got a couple of really real camera's, but i don't tend to carry them around with me everywhere i go.

toews said:
So? The N3 is bigger than the S5 so it's easier to put better hardware in there.
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Haha nice one. Size doesn't matter dude. Look other phone. They can squeeze the part of the phone to the 8 mm thin
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Im on the fence about this one, just my opinion but I felt the 13mp sony sensor was one of the best ever seen on a smart phone for all round experience. The S5 definitely takes better 'well lit' shots, however, the N3 kills it in low light and as for 4k I agree with OP, hopefully updates will improve it.
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If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.
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you ought to be careful some of your posts are considered trolling!

The S5 video seems equal to the N3 after installing this camera mod. This mod bumps the 4K bitrate up from 50 Mbps to 85 Mbps, etc. patterned after kevinrocksman's original N3 camera mod.
That is not to say that both devices then become identical. Or that one clearly outperforms the other. The mod vanquishes glaring differences, but the S5 still performs better in some aspects and less so in others. A nuanced comparison would need careful and controlled A/B testing.

toews said:
If you are that serious about the quality of the camera than you should buy a real camera.
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Quit being a douche. Your comment has no bearing at all, you're just being an asshole.
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Djspinister said:
Quit being a douche. Your comment has no bearing at all, you're just being an asshole.
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Not heart feeling but he only trolling around i guess

homer285 said:
. The S5 definitely takes better 'well lit' shots, however, the N3 kills it in low light and as for 4k I agree with OP, hopefully updates will improve it.
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I wonder how many of you when speaking about low light performance of the Camera for Photos actually use HDR ON ?
As for the 4k Video this is still very new tech currently limited to 5 minutes video which is not very good but it`s connected to some buffers filling up. I could imagine that the issue is mostly with the RAM memory not enough for 4k Video recording on the S5 as all of us know N3 has bigger Ram size which will explain why there is flickering on the S5 probably because video buffers are filled out.
Hope this helps.

It seems s5 is not a good choice

bnight said:
I wonder how many of you when speaking about low light performance of the Camera for Photos actually use HDR ON ?
As for the 4k Video this is still very new tech currently limited to 5 minutes video which is not very good but it`s connected to some buffers filling up. I could imagine that the issue is mostly with the RAM memory not enough for 4k Video recording on the S5 as all of us know N3 has bigger Ram size which will explain why there is flickering on the S5 probably because video buffers are filled out.
Hope this helps.
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So all those other flagships with 4K video and 2GB ram are also unable to record too well? That's not the case. 2GB is well enough for the task.
This is more a sensor/Firmware issue in my opinion. Or camera tuning that is needed.
Some article mentioned that the limit is more of the phone hitting a Thermal threshold due to the high demand of 4k recording.
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fanling3 said:
It seems s5 is not a good choice
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Really useless comment to post on an S5 forum, don't you think?
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Maybe most of the tweaks to the camera firmware will come with 4.4.3, which is due this month on the S5.
Also Sony has a new 16mp OIS module coming out soon, which is apparently is going into the Note 4, looks like Samsung don't have much faith in it's own sensor if that being the case, because of all the bigging up they did of their own sensor here http://connect.dpreview.com/post/0315472077/samsung-explains-the-galaxy-s5-isocell-sensor
You think they would put it in the Note 4 if rumours end up being true.

fanling3 said:
It seems s5 is not a good choice
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Was is a good choice? your iPhone?

Definitely need to buy a camera if you're really concerned about video.

note going 120hz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzC_kkbFTHQ
just came out today,? is will their be a mod to put note 8 120hz or im i going to hear the magic words ...no its hardware thing?

Um ... why , 2k screen at a 120hz would take some power. Plus with small size really wouldn't be worth it. High fps really only matters in shooters on pc. On a phone there are too many weak links to make it good for games that would call for 120hz..
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nuclearrage said:
Um ... why , 2k screen at a 120hz would take some power. Plus with small size really wouldn't be worth it. High fps really only matters in shooters on pc. On a phone there are too many weak links to make it good for games that would call for 120hz..
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Hz (refresh) is not the same as fps (framerate)...
And higher refresh rate actually makes everything smoother, including simple animations, etc. For example, I have a three monitor setup (2 x 60hz, 1 x 144hz), and you can easily see the difference just by moving the mouse cursor. Much smoother and easier on the eyes.
Razer includes a 4000mah battery...if Samsung bumps up the Note's battery capacity again in the future (and/or introduces further OS optimization for increased efficiency) then it could mitigate any additional draw in power. Personally, I think a Note 9 or 10 with faster refresh would be sweet

sefrcoko said:
Hz (refresh) is not the same as fps (framerate)...
And higher refresh rate actually makes everything smoother, including simple animations, etc. For example, I have a three monitor setup (2 x 60hz, 1 x 144hz), and you can easily see the difference just by moving the mouse cursor. Much smoother and easier on the eyes.
Razer includes a 4000mah battery...if Samsung bumps up the Note's battery capacity again in the future (and/or introduces further OS optimization for increased efficiency) then it could mitigate any additional draw in power. Personally, I think a Note 9 or 10 with faster refresh would be sweet
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thanks for the tech lesson, i know wha hz is,but can its be done though?

hz works in movies to with smooth transitions

Deezy88 said:
thanks for the tech lesson, i know wha hz is,but can its be done though?
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...I was replying to the other post (that I quoted).
Yes it can be done, the Razer just did it. Not likely on the Note 8 though, but can't really say for sure. I do know that the refresh rates of some monitors can be overclocked, but it only works up to a certain point (much like ram or processors). So even if it were possible to increase refresh on the Note 8, I don't think it would be anywhere the Razer's 120hz. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong though.

sefrcoko said:
...I was replying to the other post (that I quoted).
Yes it can be done, the Razer just did it. Not likely on the Note 8 though, but can't really say for sure. I do know that the refresh rates of some monitors can be overclocked, but it only works up to a certain point (much like ram or processors). So even if it were possible to increase refresh on the Note 8, I don't think it would be anywhere the Razer's 120hz. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong though.
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i dont think the note even running 60 fully,its could be cool if their 60hz mod like the qhd 60fps,i think the note 8 exynos can handle 60hz or 120hz,that software not hardware

Deezy88 said:
i dont think the note even running 60 fully,its could be cool if their 60hz mod like the qhd 60fps,i think the note 8 exynos can handle 60hz or 120hz,that software not hardware
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Just found this article which explains a lot:
https://www.androidauthority.com/120hz-displays-the-future-or-just-a-gimmick-782717/
Sounds like the refresh rate on the Note 8 could theoretically be increased through software alone, but that it would likely introduce issues such as screen tearing, etc. In contrast, the Razer's panel (for example) has hardware technology to reduce or eliminate these types of artifacts. So I'd say yes it could techically be done on the Note 8 to some degree, but even then the results wouldn't be great. Better to have the hardware that makes it work right and delivers the desired/expected visual experience.

OLED is not able to do those high refresh rates yet.... Its hardware

Even if you got it to work it would absolutely kill the battery and if/any games even are optimized for 120 hz is another story.

sefrcoko said:
Hz (refresh) is not the same as fps (framerate)...
And higher refresh rate actually makes everything smoother, including simple animations, etc. For example, I have a three monitor setup (2 x 60hz, 1 x 144hz), and you can easily see the difference just by moving the mouse cursor. Much smoother and easier on the eyes.
Razer includes a 4000mah battery...if Samsung bumps up the Note's battery capacity again in the future (and/or introduces further OS optimization for increased efficiency) then it could mitigate any additional draw in power. Personally, I think a Note 9 or 10 with faster refresh would be sweet
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You can see the difference if you have the video/game that uses it otherwise it's number theater . I would venture most folks couldn't tell between 60 and 144 unless it was in action. 24 to 60 yes, but beyond 60 is splitting hairs. Also on the small form factor of a phone, with the control latency of a phone not sure tour getting bang for buck . I am aware that Hz and fps are different ,just as I am aware that using different refresh rates in a triple monitor set up is just asking for problems as well. To me it's just the same as THX speakers on a phone or Dolby Atmos on a phone, yes they're there but it's more like a gimmick because of the small form factor. I am also biased towards pc gaming , and could not imagine playing any serious shooter on a phone, just like I couldn't do it on a console either(but at least consoles have the horsepower now).
My biggest fear is this catches on and Samsung ditches it's Amoled displays for LCD just to get the specs for the next phone.
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No as I said you can see the difference just moving a mouse (or watching movies, etc). Also, no issues at all in a triple monitor setup with different refresh rates, so long as you know what you're doing. Obviously if you try and play a game on 3 monitors at once with different rates then you're asking for trouble lol. Anyways, moot point now as OP's question has been answered.

Animation in android
Can the animations and UI in android currently even run at 120? Are they not rendered at or around 60fps?

sefrcoko said:
Just found this article which explains a lot:
https://www.androidauthority.com/120hz-displays-the-future-or-just-a-gimmick-782717/
Sounds like the refresh rate on the Note 8 could theoretically be increased through software alone, but that it would likely introduce issues such as screen tearing, etc. In contrast, the Razer's panel (for example) has hardware technology to reduce or eliminate these types of artifacts. So I'd say yes it could techically be done on the Note 8 to some degree, but even then the results wouldn't be great. Better to have the hardware that makes it work right and delivers the desired/expected visual experience.
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I wouldn't put too much credit in this article. They seem to be sort of talking out of their asses on this.
Adaptive display technologies reduce screen tearing yes, but their main benefit is the reduction of resources. Allow me to explain.
Your free to correct me if I'm wrong but this is my full understanding.
When a screen displays an image it has to get told to display an image. However, it's not quite as simple as the CPU saying, please display an image.
The screen will continue to display an image until it's told to Change to a new one (think of when your PC freezes. This is why the image can sometimes freeze. The display adapter has stopped sending new images to the monitor).
So what happens when your computer is creating a new image, 1000x a second? Well, it would tell the display to "display" 1000 images in a single second, even though it's only capable of let's say 60 (this is where 60hzcomes from) this creates the tearing effect. To combat this there are controls we can use, Such as vertical sync, where we can just Pull an image from that 1000 image pool when we want to display a new image. For example, your phone might tell android, since it is running at 60hz to just pull a new image from that pool once every second. We could also limit the software to only create a new image once every second as well to combat this. The problem with these is they require CPU cycles. And they have an impact on the memory, with the frame buffer holding that 1000 count image pool. Ideally went want the CPU to only worry about creating an image when we 'want' one. So that it can move on to the next process in it's Queue.
With adaptive display technology, we can 'sync' these two numbers without creating a significant performance impact, and because we have synced them the overall smooth transitions require less motion smoothing, or blur effects that alot of movies might use to help create that clean look (This magic is why movies at 24fps look fluid). When it comes to Android, 120hz vs 60hz would most definitely be noticeable, so long as UI transitions and the OS itself had animations that could display 120 different frames. Currently I think that it does not. Also, let's be honest, until the hardware starts supporting it, android won't support it. We are starting to see that support now, in the Razer phone and in some Sony phones.
I am unsure of the currently refresh limits of OLED. I do know however that OLEDs response time is faster than that of LCD. Response time doesn't directly effect refresh rate, That would be the job of the display controller, or whatever that strip is called haha. Response time is important though as it'll determine the quality of the images being displayed at higher refresh rates. Which would be the significant factor in whether you would want your display running at 120hz or simply 60hz
Also... Before anyone chimes in, with "you can't see more than 60 frames per second" your wrong. Don't bother. Sorry, but you've done zero research.

Note 8
So samsung Note 8 runs on 60 GHz?
And razer runs on 120 GHz

Adham12321 said:
So samsung Note 8 runs on 60 GHz?
And razer runs on 120 GHz
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No, just Hz. And yes, 60 &120. Did you join xda just to ask this question ?
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Fortnite 60fps

Anyone give it a go yet?
What do you think? Better yet, has anyone directly compared 60fps on Note vs the XS Max?

Looks like its only available for the US variant. Probably only Snapdragon. Tried it no 60fps on exynos.
Kind of expected. Uninstalled...

Since the XS Max got a 120Hz screen I wonder if it can actually got beyond 60Hz.

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Looks like its only available for the US variant. Probably only Snapdragon. Tried it no 60fps on exynos.
Kind of expected. Uninstalled...
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The snapdragon 945 GPU is around 35% faster in fortnite (and most GPU tasks), so no surprise here. Comparing to the iphone xs is pointless tho as the GPU in the A12 is faster sustained vs the benchmark PEAK performance in sd855 (yep, not a type - sd855, so you can guess where this puts the sd845, especially sustained).

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Since the XS Max got a 120Hz screen I wonder if it can actually got beyond 60Hz.
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No iPhone have 120hz refresh rate, only their iPads. If you want that Razer 2 offers that.

hmsq said:
No iPhone have 120hz refresh rate, only their iPads. If you want that Razer 2 offers that.
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However that is what it's written on the GSM arena page about its specs.

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However that is what it's written on the GSM arena page about its specs.
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So it's a faux 120hz refresh the display itself is still 60hz unlike the iPad Pros. https://beebom.com/iphone-xs-xs-max-xr-120hz-touch-sensing/ From this article, it looks like it only increases touch response.

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So it's a faux 120hz refresh the display itself is still 60hz unlike the iPad Pros. https://beebom.com/iphone-xs-xs-max-xr-120hz-touch-sensing/ From this article, it looks like it only increases touch response.
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Oh I understand now. Thanks.
Sorry for the confusion.

Well it plays pretty amazing! Some stutter at high graphics setting so had to turn down to low graphics and keep the 60fps.
Quite incredible actually! Huge advantage against 30fps players. Got 14 eliminations easily in team rumble.

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Well it plays pretty amazing! Some stutter at high graphics setting so had to turn down to low graphics and keep the 60fps.
Quite incredible actually! Huge advantage against 30fps players. Got 14 eliminations easily in team rumble.
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Yeah, the difference between 30 and 60fps for a first person shooter is quite big. Sadly not only the exynos note 9 doesn't support 60fps, but it also on the last versions is locked to maximum high GFX (EPIC is grayed out). So samsung thinks it's fair to sell you for more money a phone that has the same name, but can go maximum to high 30fps (it's also not smooth on that settings) while the other one go epic 60fps? Ok

Nastrahl said:
Oh I understand now. Thanks.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Yep, on the iphones it's just the digitizer that goes to 120Hz vs the regular 60Hz touch reading. This actually is awesome and really great in both UI and gaming, the touch latency is quite a lot lower + it tracks you better/faster/accurate.

Question Fornite

I play fornite on oppo, but somehow it doesnt go above 30 fps :v, i've seen worse phones performing better than this one

I have the same issue with wild rift. The 120fps options are disabled

Wild Rift runs perfect here, the game Is stucked at 60fps

ClaudioG123 said:
I play fornite on oppo, but somehow it doesnt go above 30 fps :v, i've seen worse phones performing better than this one
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Yes, the game lags when I play the game for just 5 mins. Performance is very bad with the snapdragon 888 processor.

V1TRU said:
Wild Rift runs perfect here, the game Is stucked at 60fps
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Yeah that's the issue. The phone has a 120hz screen and 888processor... It's supposed to have the 120hz option.

clairelara said:
Yes, the game lags when I play the game for just 5 mins. Performance is very bad with the snapdragon 888 processor.
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It's not the processor, it's the phone. Because I have an rog 5 and a legion and it both runs at 120fps Witt no lag.

Facing the same problem, snapdragon 888 processor showing poor performance.The game lags when I play the game for few minutes during break time of my work on website juicerhunter.

lisahaley said:
Facing the same problem, snapdragon 888 processor showing poor performance.The game lags when I play the game for few minutes during break time of my work on website juicerhunter.
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That's my legion duel 2. The oppo with the same specs doesn't even get the 120fps option and it lags when I run a few matches even at 60 fps. I'm gonna sell this oppo...

Question How is performance and camera after updates?

Hello,
All initial reviews show some spontaneous performance lags and a rather not so satisfying camera. As the phone is now on January 2022 update, have things become better?
Thank you

munlar said:
Hello,
All initial reviews show some spontaneous performance lags and a rather not so satisfying camera. As the phone is now on January 2022 update, have things become better?
Thank you
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hi, what performance lag are you referring to? what is wrong with the camera? in comparison to my friends samsung S20FE mine looks a LOT better and has a load more detail. it is a 64 MP camera and it is pretty good imo vs the phones I've had this is by far the best. when it comes to performance lag, I'm not sure what you are referring to? is there a game too demanding for the phone? I can run some PS2 games on my phone like DBZ budokai 3, tenkaichi 3, Kingdom hears 2, Digimon rumble arena, digimon Data Squad, Simpsons hit and run and a few others at pretty much 60 fps with a minor dip here and there. Genshin runs better on higher graphics settings since the GPU picks up where the CPU is a little lacking but yeah Genshin is the only game I've found that has some stuttering on this phone so far. don't expect miracles for the price but at the price I paid for it there is nothing that even comes remotely close to it in South Africa

Hi, thanks for your input, I am referring to all reviews you can read about this phone.

munlar said:
Hi, thanks for your input, I am referring to all reviews you can read about this phone.
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yeah, I like the camera but I'm no expert photographer, I've only used the camera for personal use but I love the quality! if the reviews on google by actual users don't go searching for the guy like this one if the guy didn't buy a fake he is delusional.
"Most Worst phone ever. (Camera quality is very bad) Don't buy4 months ago
Most third class mobile. Check the camera before buy this phone. 2mp camera is better than this phone cam(64mp). All reviews will be 0. Realme is better phone from Redmi. Disappointed to buy it. Feedback after using 4months."

still after updates the camera quality is worse. photos remain patchy and washed out. my earlier note 7s pro was 100 times better then this. and yes a 2mp camera is even better then this. please dont buy this phone even in a 2ns sale.