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[Q] Titanium with non rooted

So I'm going to try my hand at rooting the newest Sprint release, and I had an idea:
If I install one of our stock rooted roms, use titanium to get all of my apps and such back, couldnt i then just update ota and keep my stuff?
In theory, this would work, but then again theory isn't always the best thing to go by.
Thanks in advanced for any and all help.

Not sure what you are trying to do. But, why would you want the update? Anything specific in the update that makes you go back after rooting?

andythegreenguy said:
Not sure what you are trying to do. But, why would you want the update? Anything specific in the update that makes you go back after rooting?
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Giving Sprint another shot to amaze me. Supposed to be some changes in it so maybe it will be worth staying stock with root.
And I'm trying to figure out if I update OTA from a rooted stock rom to the newest release, will it delete my apps and data or just break root and such?

mdhscanes24 said:
Giving Sprint another shot to amaze me. Supposed to be some changes in it so maybe it will be worth staying stock with root.
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Hmm... but, if you are on 2.2, I don't think anything 2.1 would amaze you... .
mdhscanes24 said:
And I'm trying to figure out if I update OTA from a rooted stock rom to the newest release, will it delete my apps and data or just break root and such?
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Unless it is a major update, usually the apps are not deleted. However, based on whatever I have read so far, you are sure to lose root. Again, I have not tried it... but, more often than not that's why they send out these releases.

andythegreenguy said:
Hmm... but, if you are on 2.2, I don't think anything 2.1 would amaze you... .
Unless it is a major update, usually the apps are not deleted. However, based on whatever I have read so far, you are sure to lose root. Again, I have not tried it... but, more often than not that's why they send out these releases.
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Instead of the official I found NFX's rooted version. 10 minutes on that and I was about to break that slow being that I used to love. I was thoroughly unimpressed with Sprint.
How is it we have Devs who can port froyo and such, make them run stupid fast and a hell of a lot smoother than Sprint's team? Seriously some of our guys should be applying cause they could easily make sprint better.

mdhscanes24 said:
Instead of the official I found NFX's rooted version. 10 minutes on that and I was about to break that slow being that I used to love. I was thoroughly unimpressed with Sprint.
How is it we have Devs who can port froyo and such, make them run stupid fast and a hell of a lot smoother than Sprint's team? Seriously some of our guys should be applying cause they could easily make sprint better.
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Yeah... well, you know, that's just the way it is

Its not so much the sprint software as it is them putting the sense software on a phone that couldnt handle it. Sense runs great on the EVO, bigger processor and more RAM

cordell12 said:
Its not so much the sprint software as it is them putting the sense software on a phone that couldnt handle it. Sense runs great on the EVO, bigger processor and more RAM
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Actually, even on an EVO, sense isn't all that fast/great IMO

cordell12 said:
Its not so much the sprint software as it is them putting the sense software on a phone that couldnt handle it. Sense runs great on the EVO, bigger processor and more RAM
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I kind of disagree with that statement. If it were Sense in itself, we wouldn't have such smooth running Sense roms here. IMO it is all due to sprint having to dip their hand into everything to do with the phone.
Anyways, to stay on topic, carrying apps over from a rooted rom, to an OTA update is still all hypothetical, with absolutely no proof of concept. If i had access to a more stable internet signal, I would throw my ideas to work, but this is not the case.

rooting the ONE is it worth it...or should i

any one regret rooting the one ? i had a htc sensation rooted but alll the roms seem to have some thing that did not work...the one seems to be fine the way it is so before i root it i wanted some option ..... do the the htc one also have roms with broken parts of it ?
should i just wait on the updates ?

Really depends on how you use your device and how you feel about the stock setup. I didn't like having all the bloatware that AT&T packed on and really wanted to play around more under the hood, but obviously that is not for everyone and comes with all of the standard risks.
I'm running the latest ViperOne ROM and really love the options that can be set and tweaked. So many ROM options available for the device the choices are almost endless.

You haven't tried Trickdroid 9.0. Amazing rom that's not missing anything! insane battery life also

does the update also add alot of features ?

I've rooted every android phone I've had and flashed numerous roms on each one but this is the first device that I've left completely stock. I don't even have an unlocked bootloader. The phone is just fine the way it is, I will not be rooting or unlocking the bootloader on this phone anytime soon. Myself and many other users used to root our phones and flash custom roms because android phones used to be incredibly laggy and we always wanted better performance. Overclocking our processors was the norm but now android has matured so much and devices are ridiculously powerful now there is just no need to change them. Even if we were to still overclock our devices you wouldn't see a change in performance.
It's completely up to you though.

Personally, I think rooting is worth it just for the ad blocking it allows; i.e. editing the hosts file. Running a custom rom, being able to backup with titanium and nandroids, and changing radios is just gravy. And if you've ever had a device go south without a custom recovery already on it it's incredibly difficult to fix.
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lampel said:
Personally, I think rooting is worth it just for the ad blocking it allows; i.e. editing the hosts file. Running a custom rom, being able to backup with titanium and nandroids, and changing radios is just gravy. And if you've ever had a device go south without a custom recovery already on it it's incredibly difficult to fix.
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Devices don't tend to break on stock, that is a case for warranty

Matt said:
Devices don't tend to break on stock, that is a case for warranty
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The wife bought a refurb Acer tablet - no warranty (I think it was thirty days.) Was ridiculous to restore. I learned my lesson, well! And I'd rather be able to fix it myself than be without while I wait for someone else to. To each their own...
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yeah if this was a slow phone or laggy maybe i would,but a have read a few tread with custom roms and some are having trouble with them,think i'll wait on update....although the 4.2.2 update seems to not be coming to t-mobile,all i got so far was a small update.

I have only had the One for a few weeks, but I rooted it and flashed CM10.1 before I even put my SIM in it. Definitely worth it. No reason to deal with carrier restrictions.

t mobile told me there is no 4.2.2 update for the htc one......HTC said the same thing,so now im wondering how come people are saying there receiving this update..
who's lying

bucknaked said:
t mobile told me there is no 4.2.2 update for the htc one......HTC said the same thing,so now im wondering how come people are saying there receiving this update..
who's lying
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There will be no 4.2.2 update from tmobile, my guess is they are gonna skip that and go straight to 4.3 plus they said it on the internet on the news that htc said it themselves and that there would be no customer benefit for an update like 4.2.2 so they said they were gonna skip it and bring up 4.3.
The update started along the lines of outside international countries that aren't big market carriers and then it rolled on slowly...so no one's lying you just have to do some research on the internet but that 4.2.2 update never got to the US thats why it was never rolled out to large carriers to their customers..
Hopefully this gave you some insight on things that are currently happening.
Sent from my ViperOne

leohdz148 said:
There will be no 4.2.2 update from tmobile, my guess is they are gonna skip that and go straight to 4.3 plus they said it on the internet on the news that htc said it themselves and that there would be no customer benefit for an update like 4.2.2 so they said they were gonna skip it and bring up 4.3.
The update started along the lines of outside international countries that aren't big market carriers and then it rolled on slowly...so no one's lying you just have to do some research on the internet but that 4.2.2 update never got to the US thats why it was never rolled out to large carriers to their customers..
Hopefully this gave you some insight on things that are currently happening.
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there was alot of people saying they received the 4.2.2 update to there htc one

bucknaked said:
there was alot of people saying they received the 4.2.2 update to there htc one
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It had to have been those in the UK or in some parts of the world because it started from one small part of the world, I mean those that are not on carriers, and it did end up in parts of the UK but it never got to the US and if people who are in the US saying they got the update they changed their CID to a region that had the update rolling out so really no one on this side of the US has that software except verizon because they shipped those one models with the current software, and the GPE ones got an update first because well those aren't sold by carrier they are sold by htc themselves on their website. So yes people have said that they receive it but unless there is proof I wouldn't go off of their word, they more than likely did something to their phone to get that software, they might have a custom rom on their phone or done something to get it officially but here in the us there is no word of 4.2.2 ever coming to their customers....of course except verizon....
Well hopefully this helps...if you have any other questions or concerns please do let us know as we want to help you out
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guess i may have to root it to get the extra features,just hate all the other problems that comes with custom roms,there always updating to fix this or that.

bucknaked said:
guess i may have to root it to get the extra features,just hate all the other problems that comes with custom roms,there always updating to fix this or that.
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Not always. Running a stock 4.2.2 Rom or something without major modifications will be smooth for a long time. I ran Mike's stock build rooted for almost a month with no issues at all.
It all depends on what you want from it. If you want all the themes and icon changes and modify this and that, you will have issues. But if you JUST want the newest version out there then I would say go ahead and run a stock build, get it odexed (not deodexed) and you will have buttery smoothness
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is revone still not working for updated htc ones ?
or have they got that fixed ?

zammboss said:
You haven't tried Trickdroid 9.0. Amazing rom that's not missing anything! insane battery life also
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Hi, I am looking for ROM with better battery life than Stock.
My average battery drain about 1% for about 4-5 minutes while using Internet via WIFI for browsing using JB's 4.2.2 default browser, chatting via WhatsApp, reading emails and using Blink Feed.
How about using this ROM?
Thanks.

My main reason FOR rooting, was to theme the phone red. I have the HTC one Red edition. And just love red. I also hate blink feed. Ive flashed Venom rom, and desensed it. Battery life is amazing, I cant find anything that don't work, well nothing I need to use anyway. Plus they have there own red theme, and with the help of a few icon designes from Seriously Crazy. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091654 This is what ive come up with.
So worth rotting for me, if only for the theming, and gtting rid of blink feed.
Steve

N9005 stock rom/firmware

Did my search but nothing found! (Maybe I didn't try hard enough?) I'm questioning the rom/firmware gurus on this one.
I previously owned a N9005 variant and loved the rom! Now I was at At&t messing with the Note 3 N900A and its BLOATED! Now I do know it'll probably require a root but is it possible to install the N9005 version of android on the N900A. Yes there is a difference!

PatienceWithin said:
Did my search but nothing found! (Maybe I didn't try hard enough?) I'm questioning the rom/firmware gurus on this one.
I previously owned a N9005 variant and loved the rom! Now I was at At&t messing with the Note 3 N900A and its BLOATED! Now I do know it'll probably require a root but is it possible to install the N9005 version of android on the N900A. Yes there is a difference!
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You can't just use the 9005 ROM, you have to have a ported ROM. Xnote over in the development section is based off the international version and it's what I use. And yes, your right. There is a huge difference lol

Sweet, thanks for the response. I knew it would need to be ported over but I'll check Xnote out!
Anyone familiar with Straight talk sim cards as in is there two different micro sims? (Grey and Blue?)

Sorry I can't tell you the difference in SIM cards. But can you tell me some software differences you found between the 9005 and 900A?

440bro said:
Sorry I can't tell you the difference in SIM cards. But can you tell me some software differences you found between the 9005 and 900A?
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I had a Czech variant of the N9005. I couldn't pick up At&t 4G/LTE because of software restrictions but I can say. It ran a lot cleaner. Everything was a lot more responsive. I'm thinking the N900A, why it's backed up a little because of its bloatware from hell and back! When I mentioned about the difference earlier in my posting. It dawned on me that some of those things I liked on the N9005 was part of the LTE features and the N900A doesn't have those features. Impossible to get but I did notice which I miss is when you hold the power button on the N9005. A menu appears and give you several options. The N900A doesn't give you those options. Only very little options which I miss.
When texting, At&t has this symbol that appears to the left of the suggestive would you may be typing. Annoying as hell but the N9005 doesn't have it. Another reasons why I'm after that copy.

PatienceWithin said:
I had a Czech variant of the N9005. I couldn't pick up At&t 4G/LTE because of software restrictions but I can say. It ran a lot cleaner. Everything was a lot more responsive. I'm thinking the N900A, why it's backed up a little because of its bloatware from hell and back! When I mentioned about the difference earlier in my posting. It dawned on me that some of those things I liked on the N9005 was part of the LTE features and the N900A doesn't have those features. Impossible to get but I did notice which I miss is when you hold the power button on the N9005. A menu appears and give you several options. The N900A doesn't give you those options. Only very little options which I miss.
When texting, At&t has this symbol that appears to the left of the suggestive would you may be typing. Annoying as hell but the N9005 doesn't have it. Another reasons why I'm after that copy.
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Thanks for sharing with me. I appreciate it. For weeks I tossed and turned about getting an 9005, or a plain unlocked 9000. Finally I tried squeezing an early upgrade out of att and got an 900A for cheap. I don't regret that now thanks to your remarks. I rooted, and debloated it so it seems a lot more peppy to me now than before. I also installed xposed framework. Using Gravity box and Wanam modules gives me some user customization. Like the power menu you mention. I prefer the swype keyboard, so I don't have your annoying suggestive word issue. So the only thing I'm missing out on are some LTE features. I'm not even sure what those are, so I guess ignorance is bliss in this case lol! Thanks again for your info.

Well in the Unbranded section of the N9005. Seems like a few members have a hunch that they can get the N9005 to read At&t bands. If it comes to light. It's do-able. I will be converting back over but will just have two Note 3s, ha. Now your N900A, how does it run without that extensive amount of bloatware?
Never got used to swype but the N9005 didn't have the annoying little arrow that pops up but maybe its just me being picky.

PatienceWithin said:
Well in the Unbranded section of the N9005. Seems like a few members have a hunch that they can get the N9005 to read At&t bands. If it comes to light. It's do-able. I will be converting back over but will just have two Note 3s, ha. Now your N900A, how does it run without that extensive amount of bloatware?
Never got used to swype but the N9005 didn't have the annoying little arrow that pops up but maybe its just me being picky.
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There's nothing wrong with being picky about our features! Android wouldn't of made it this far if people weren't picky lol!
Swype will suck for the first week of use. Make sure you register and backup your information. You have to mold the dictionary to you by adding your emails, passwords, and acronyms. If I add my 12 letter long last name on a tablet dictionary, it also adds it on my phone dictionary. So feeding the dictionary knowledge is easy. People are dumbfounded when they see how quickly I swype in information. Especially email addresses. I don't think I could live anymore without my swype!
I am a HUGE fan of debloating!!! I understand why carriers put that crap there. But I hope they understand the first day I have my device, is the same day I freeze and blast there crap outta here! Who wants att wifi app constantly turning on wifi and looking for signal? What a resource hog! Who wants drive mode when they have a galaxy gear? Who wants att navigation when google maps is preinstalled? I mean come on carriers!!! Nice try! I constantly monitor wake locks, and triggers. 3/4 of my waking and running activity is gone now that I've removed bloat. I haven't hit 40k on antu benchmark yet. But I'm happy with my 36.5k stats.
Sorry to hijack your thread :angel:

440bro said:
There's nothing wrong with being picky about our features! Android wouldn't of made it this far if people weren't picky lol!
Swype will suck for the first week of use. Make sure you register and backup your information. You have to mold the dictionary to you by adding your emails, passwords, and acronyms. If I add my 12 letter long last name on a tablet dictionary, it also adds it on my phone dictionary. So feeding the dictionary knowledge is easy. People are dumbfounded when they see how quickly I swype in information. Especially email addresses. I don't think I could live anymore without my swype!
I am a HUGE fan of debloating!!! I understand why carriers put that crap there. But I hope they understand the first day I have my device, is the same day I freeze and blast there crap outta here! Who wants att wifi app constantly turning on wifi and looking for signal? What a resource hog! Who wants drive mode when they have a galaxy gear? Who wants att navigation when google maps is preinstalled? I mean come on carriers!!! Nice try! I constantly monitor wake locks, and triggers. 3/4 of my waking and running activity is gone now that I've removed bloat. I haven't hit 40k on antu benchmark yet. But I'm happy with my 36.5k stats.
Sorry to hijack your thread :angel:
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Oh no no no. Not a problem at all. Just got off the phone with Straight talk. Since my Sim card is the older version. I had for my S3. It's doesn't carry the LTE compatibility. Just ordered another but while on my hunt for a decent ROM. You using stock Rom but debloated or? Asking because I'm not a real fan of XNote. I'm thinking of popping her cherry and breaking her in. (Phone's stock, not rooted yet)

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Oh no no no. Not a problem at all. Just got off the phone with Straight talk. Since my Sim card is the older version. I had for my S3. It's doesn't carry the LTE compatibility. Just ordered another but while on my hunt for a decent ROM. You using stock Rom but debloated or? Asking because I'm not a real fan of XNote. I'm thinking of popping her cherry and breaking her in. (Phone's stock, not rooted yet)
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Pop her cherry! Give her some kingo love and xposed framework. Don't forget to tibu her bloated butt lol!
I'm on the stock rom rooted and debloated. No custom roms and I'm more than happy with her! I am also picky. I've flashed a lot of custom roms in my day for my previous note devices. Just not the note 3 yet. It's snappy and VERY reliable/stable.

440bro said:
Pop her cherry! Give her some kingo love and xposed framework. Don't forget to tibu her bloated butt lol!
I'm on the stock rom rooted and debloated. No custom roms and I'm more than happy with her! I am also picky. I've flashed a lot of custom roms in my day for my previous note devices. Just not the note 3 yet. It's snappy and VERY reliable/stable.
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I had tried many different ROMS on my S3 but this will be my first with Note 3. I didn't even break in my N9005. I was chicken **** to do so. It was snappy and stable for me. I had no reason to root it.

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I had tried many different ROMS on my S3 but this will be my first with Note 3. I didn't even break in my N9005. I was chicken **** to do so. It was snappy and stable for me. I had no reason to root it.
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If you're easily susceptible to peer pressure, and don't want to void your warranty, please don NOT read the next sentence.
Ahh come on! no need to be scared. Just root it! You know you want too! Everyone cool is doing it!! lol!
But on a serious note (not sure if pun is intended or not), you'll love xposed framework and debloating. It might give you back that 9005 rush you had.

440bro said:
If you're easily susceptible to peer pressure, and don't want to void your warranty, please don NOT read the next sentence.
Ahh come on! no need to be scared. Just root it! You know you want too! Everyone cool is doing it!! lol!
But on a serious note (not sure if pun is intended or not), you'll love xposed framework and debloating. It might give you back that 9005 rush you had.
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Oh I was scared to root the N9005 because her love was so crisp! Now the N900A, she needs broken in! I will root her down to the framework!

Hey guys, is the offical stock rom n9005 go straight forward to be installed on n900a?

[Q] 4.4.2 for i537?

Hey guys I've had the i537 ATT S4 Active since the day it came out. Rooted it the first day I saw that on here, and its got some version of clockwork mod on it.
As such, I can't just upgrade to the ATT 4.4.2 OTA. I'm not sure its worth pulling root, going back, and then coming forward just to have another ATT-bloat ROM on the phone. Is it worth it? I never use any of the ATT bloat stuff except for the wifi hotspot thing... but I could even do without that.
If not, what's a good 4.4 ROM that would work? It seems like all the ROMs are for the international S4A. I need it to be stable with no or very minimal bugs... camera, network connectivity, bluetooth, and audio are all very important to me.

Don't do it!
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Hey guys I've had the i537 ATT S4 Active since the day it came out. Rooted it the first day I saw that on here, and its got some version of clockwork mod on it.
As such, I can't just upgrade to the ATT 4.4.2 OTA. I'm not sure its worth pulling root, going back, and then coming forward just to have another ATT-bloat ROM on the phone. Is it worth it? I never use any of the ATT bloat stuff except for the wifi hotspot thing... but I could even do without that.
If not, what's a good 4.4 ROM that would work? It seems like all the ROMs are for the international S4A. I need it to be stable with no or very minimal bugs... camera, network connectivity, bluetooth, and audio are all very important to me.
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A little background, I'm a long time xda lurker, never had the guts (nor felt like I had the appropriate knowledge level) to ever come out of the shadows. I first encountered this Samsung bootloader nightmare when I promised my girlfriend I'd root and and flash CM10 to her GS3. Like an idiot I took the OTA beforehand, so I was able to root but heartbreakingly unable to flash CM or even CWM recovery. I cannot describe to you how crestfallen I was once I did the research and realized what I had locked myself out of (I have had nothing but positive experiences with CM and its relatives on my Pantech Burst and Samsung Infuse). Trust me don't do it.
I guess the main point I'm trying to make is that you can always flash a stock(-based) ROM, and even customize it to look exactly like a bloatware-ridden new phone, but once you take the OTA, that's it you're done. No cyanogen, no custom ROMS, no custom kernels, no CWM. I wish someone had given me this warning a year ago with my gf's GS3 (Verizon btw, this nonsense isn't AT&T-exclusive). I know I'm repeating myself, but even without the OTA, you can still give yourself an authentic KitKat experience, whereas if you take the OTA, you're completely removing almost all the phone's customizability. And in my humble opinion, that very customization was what makes (or made, for those of us stuck on locked bootloaders, pining for the good old days) the Android experience so superior.
I really hope this helped, I saw your post and didn't want to see someone else lose their phone.
-I'm new to actually posting so I don't really know how to do this the right way but my current phone is the GS4 Active, I have two retired Pantech Bursts (one still working, IMO the best no-name brand smartphone at least as of 2012), a retired Samsung Infuse, and I have experience with the GS3 as well, mentioned above
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Hey guys I've had the i537 ATT S4 Active since the day it came out...and its got some version of clockwork mod on it.
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I didn't even know that was possible. If that's true, congratulations, everyone in this forum is insanely jealous of you

Thanks for the input mate. If I could find a decent 4.4 for the i537 I'd do that over the OTA one.

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Thanks for the input mate. If I could find a decent 4.4 for the i537 I'd do that over the OTA one.
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The bootloader on the i537 is locked, you cannot install custom ROMs. Your only option is to use SafeStrap.

Tmobile 5.1 summary

There are so many different threads right now with repeat and/or conflicting information I am trying to sort some things out. From what I've either read or experimented with first hand, anything stock image based with any of the new radios will work, but aosp roms only work with the old 5.0 radio. The one exception to this that I don't understand is euphoria and the 98r radio work on Tmo. I am able to get and make calls while on lte. I don't have anywhere near enough knowledge to understand this so I'm hoping others can chime in and explain what's going on. I haven't tried the Tmo M build and I haven't updated my bootloader and I've only used banks gappps, if any of that matters at all.

terminus rom as well(released today). i can receive calls on lte with a new radio, and volte is working. yes, im on tmobile. btw, it is an aosp issue. but we have found whats missing, so soon itll work in all aosp roms as well.

Good to know, thansk for that info. So it's just a matter of the rom devs adding something to fix it? Why is it only Tmo users affected?

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Good to know, thansk for that info. So it's just a matter of the rom devs adding something to fix it? Why is it only Tmo users affected?
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why only tmobile? i have no idea. but its been bugging me for two weeks now! and yea, all they have to do is add in whats missing, an easy fix