As stated above. I have had it turned off since the first week. I keep the phone in my pocket and it will keep waking up, unlocking, and doing things including dialing people.
Maybe I have someone living in my pocket.
Any mod out there? Would like to use the feature again. In the mean time I have been using the led mod.
Ambient display uses the PROXIMITY SENSOR to decide if it should actually turn on. It will not turn on in your pocket.
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Ambient display uses the PROXIMITY SENSOR to decide if it should actually turn on. It will not turn on in your pocket.[/QUOTE
I know but it still turns on. I do not know if maybe it happens in pockets with white lining or something. I kept getting pocket dials or on a website. Whatever always happens if I have it on.
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if the conditions are met for the accelerometer to open the ambient mode screen then it will turn on for a split second before the proximity turns it off. I tested this by using an app that make the phone vibrate whenever the screen is turned off (Gravity screen) and putting a piece of opaque tape over the proximity sensor. Moving the phone to trigger ambient mode caused the phone to vibrate meaning there was a split second where you could theoretically interact with the phone which would cause it to fully wake up and the proximity sensor doesn't cause the phone to turn the screen off unless you're in a call.
Coincidentally Gravity screen does allow you to make your phone sleep using the proximity detector so it can also turn the screen off for you regardless of what is on the screen at any given time. Meaning it'll turn off the screen even if you or your butt is interacting with the screen. And it has settings for pocket angles or apps and whatnot to disable it so you don't lose your screen while watching a video or something.
See. I new there was a way. Thanks!
Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
tomsag said:
Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
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Yep I have the same thing... Today my pocket took 9599295 pictures and movies.. also when I'm a bit sweat my pocket dial random numbers. I've noticed that when screen is touched and disnt recognize fingerprint then whole lockscreen shows up and its easy way to random open dial or camera... Its rly anoying, because I dont want to hide phone screen outside of the skin. (Its easier to break screen if I hit something with my leg.)
Dunno why it doesnt use proximity sensor to recognize that phone is in the pocket like every other brand... :/
Do you have the double tap to wake up activated?
I had this problem a while ago and it was the double tap that played all kinds of tricks calling emergency and taking pictures in my pocket! Disable double tap to wake up screen and the problem goes away.
Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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My only solution was to buy a flip case. At first, I disabled the fingerprint reader by removing all fingerprints and setting up face recognition, but this didn’t fix the problem you are talking about. I don’t really like flip cases, but the Nillkin QIN Smartcase is rather good.
So now I ‘m eagerly awaiting a fix from Xiaomi so I can strip the Mi9 again!
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Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. I don't have the problem and just wanted to know where I can disable the fingerprint icon. Thanks again.
New uppdate out that include Pocket Mode. MIUI-V10.2.27.0PFAEUXM EEA version.
Anyone know if there's a way to disable the fingerprint scanner activating any time I pick up the phone now? Never did that before the update, it's pretty annoying. Already have lift to wake turned off, but that doesn't fix it. Went through every setting and didn't see a way to fix it. And it's not the lift to wake option, the whole screen doesn't turn on, just the fingerprint scanner and icon. Seems to be making my battery life way worse.
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Anyone know if there's a way to disable the fingerprint scanner activating any time I pick up the phone now? Never did that before the update, it's pretty annoying. Already have lift to wake turned off, but that doesn't fix it. Went through every setting and didn't see a way to fix it. And it's not the lift to wake option, the whole screen doesn't turn on, just the fingerprint scanner and icon. Seems to be making my battery life way worse.
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Because Blu cust support has not duplicated it, others with update didn't duplicate it.
Makes it seem like just your phone.
Did you try to factory reset it.
Fully. Remove saved fingerprint remove accounts,
Reboot to recovery and do factory reset. Setup phone again
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Anyone know if there's a way to disable the fingerprint scanner activating any time I pick up the phone now? Never did that before the update, it's pretty annoying. Already have lift to wake turned off, but that doesn't fix it. Went through every setting and didn't see a way to fix it. And it's not the lift to wake option, the whole screen doesn't turn on, just the fingerprint scanner and icon. Seems to be making my battery life way worse.
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Late reply I know but I found out how to disable this option.
In the settings go to:
Display->Ambient Display
Turn off the option for New Notifications.
I have no idea why it is called this as new notifications (SMS at least from my quick test) still wake the screen,but the fingerprint sensor no longer shows when you lift or move your phone. Completely mislabeled but hey at least you can turn it off.
I've searched far and wide and can't find a solution for this issue.
Here is what happens: for no reason that I can see (no new notifications), my screen turns on its own. My phone is just there on the table when this happens and I haven't touched it.
This happens whether the phone is plugged in or not. It happens in the middle of the night and wakes me up.
Things I came tried:
- turn on do not disturb and remove all exceptions.
- disable always on display.
- disabled all lock screen notifications.
- disabled a notifications.
Other things I've tried:
Lift to wake and all other things that could wake the screen.
Did a factory data reset and re setup my phone from scratch.
Nothing works. Can anyone please help me?
Thanks in advance.
I had the very same problem until a few days ago when this behaviour suddenly stopped. What changed? I had shutdown my Pebble watch and connected a Wear OS watch to my phone.
I don't know what the Pebble did, but it looks like it woke up my phone at random intervals.
Maybe it a bluetooth device you've connected?
I'm expeciencing sometimes this behaviour when listening to the music on bike with phone in pocked on back. I disabled all "smart" funcions like smart lock, pocket detecting, wearing detection etc and it stopped.
I think it is caused by new type of proximity sensor used in whole S10 line (so I think it is hw related). I read somewhere than it detects skin proximity even thru several layers of cloting.
It is behaving strange even during phone calls - when put phone down from my ear, it tooks several seconds until screen lights on.
it's one of the things that bothers me a lot about otherwise great phone.
facing same issue
I always loved Samsung galaxy s10. I bought it from my friend who used it for 10 months. I am facing the same issue first I thought it is because he used it for 10 months and some bug appeared but now I came to know its not just me. if anyone knows how to fix it then please post a reply. I really need to fix this
I haven't noticed that on my S10. It sounds like something is triggering it, but what. Do all of you use Bixby because I don't.
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
enigmaamit said:
Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
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Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
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I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat